>cardio kills gai-

>cardio kills gai-

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You can also post any football player, any rugby player, any jav thrower, any heavyweight martial artist.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      All enhanced though, how can we know what the natty experience is like before wasting years of our lives trying it first hand?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        source?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          My brain

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            proof of brain?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              I think therefore I am

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        A lot of the B-tier high school ones are natty and look great.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Checked. Go live it. Stop asking and trying to min max or theorycraft your life and go do shit. Lift. Run. Parkour. Martial arts. Do it all and see where you wind up.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Whoever came up with cardio kills gains is just a fat gay. And whoever pushes the idea that cardio kills gains are also fat gays.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Looks at people who actually do the most cardio
      >They all look like ass
      >Look at people who lift, sprint, do a little brisk walking a bit

      Pretty easy. If you excuse pictures of fitness models who are posing for a run and instead look at:

      >Long distance runners
      >Mountain climbers
      >Ultra endurance athletes
      >Triathlon winners

      They all have ass skinny-fat physiques, and it's not a coincidence. You do fuckloads of cardio and you have catabolism, especially as you struggle to hit calories.q

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Sprinting is also cardio, so is lifting with short breaks. No one's forcing you to do long distance runs.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >No one's forcing you to do long distance runs.
          This also depends on what you mean by long distance. 5k isn't very far.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I'd argue that a majority of individuals in your latter category aren't striving for the BodyBuilder physique though, and that by exclusively working to improve in their sport unfortunately garner those weird physiques

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        This. The best routine would be something like
        >weightlifting
        >walking 30,000 steps a day
        >sprinting multiple miles, in various lengths, multiple times a week
        >HIIT like P90X or circuit training
        >being a roofer for forearm gains
        >boxing/some chink combat sport
        >climbing trees and rocks intermittently
        >doing ballet
        >being a gymnast
        >swimming dozens of laps for speed
        >Olympic field sports
        >and eat 6000 calories a day.

        Realistically you can just pick two of these and be better than pretty much anyone else normal.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >what is systemic fatigue
          there is no best routine since there is no single goal

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >You do fuckloads of cardio and you have catabolism,
        You're looking at runners who only care about cardio. There are people who do plenty of cardio and still maintain good musculature like MMA fighters, wrestlers, etc

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Too much cardio will indeed kill your gains
        I was rooning every single day long distances for a half marathon I was training for and my lifts stagnated hard, even harder than when beginning my cut.
        Catabolosys or sis is real.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >mountain climbers have ass skinny-fat physiques

        Lol retard. Mountain climbers almost universally have insanely strong upper body strength and it shows

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Yes, and when you look at elite strongmen, they are all fat? Does that mean that lifting big weights makes you fat?

        Or maybe, just maybe, elite athletes happen to have a body that is the most suitable to compete in their sport?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        wouldn't extra muscle weigh you down? so why would these competitive runners need to have a big chest. running is perfectly fine if you're just running for health benefits

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >long distance runners

        OP's pic rel is Nick Bare who just ran a sub 3 hr marathon.

        bodybuilding and cardio can fit together it's just that bodybuilding isn't necessary/optimal for most distance runners so the top elite endurance athletes don't bother because it doesn't help them. why waste time training for big muscles if it doesn't help your sport?

        counter example (we can pick example and counter example all day yadda yadda) look at @ferguscrawley on ig he does plenty of swimming/running/cycling and also heavy lifting and is massive

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Whoever came up with cardio kills gains is just a fat gay. And whoever pushes the idea that cardio kills gains are also fat gays.
      true, if you do cardio just eat more food, it's that easy, you will need a shit ton more cabrs and a little more protein

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >tfw no high fat diet
        imagine needing protein and carbs to feel better

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >age 44
    >decide to start running again
    >run a few km
    >next day tendons and ligaments in my knee and feet hurt when walking
    >a week later still hurt
    >two weeks later still not back to normal
    It's over.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      try walking and jogging first. it's the same as a beginner getting extreme muscle soreness following exercise.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I'm waiting for everything to feel normal before trying again. I normally walk though. I can easily tolerate 10 to 15k steps per day with no issues.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >i normally walk though
          which would explain why your cardio is in good enough shape to run as much as you did even though your joints weren't
          ease into it

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Just get a elliptical trainer. Practically no tension on your joints.
      I went from dying after 5 minutes to being able to do an hour with no problems after two months.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Sacrificing calf, bone density, and tendon gains
        The trick to running is good form and limited progression.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You have to earn it back, it will take forever but you can do it.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Collagen. You can buy the supplement your do this:

      My mom makes something like this, but she make it in a ice cube tray, her recipe it's a little bit different.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >It's over.
      Take up cycling instead old man. More fun and easier on your deteriorating body.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Agree with this. Cycling is great. Since my 26th or so I've been getting more injuries from running even though I've been running since I was 14/15 or so. Long before I started lifting. No issues whatsoever with cycling.

        Can't sprint anymore because it leaves me with severe right knee pain that lasts weeks. Also cannot perform barbell squats anymore for same reason. I was squatting 1.5x body weight 3x10 but I don't see that ever happening ever again. I'm 29 now maybe it's age, probably genetics but I've come to realize that squats are a dumb exercise. Would not recommend anyone to squat more than 1.25bw for 10 reps. You're setting yourself up for serious and potentially long term injury.

        For muscle definition and longevity it is way safer to focus on plyometrics. Essentially what women have been doing since the 80s. My personal new favorite is split squats. Low weight, high hypertrophy exercise that also works wonders for mobility.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Agree with this. Cycling is great. Since my 26th or so I've been getting more injuries from running even though I've been running since I was 14/15 or so. Long before I started lifting. No issues whatsoever with cycling.

        Can't sprint anymore because it leaves me with severe right knee pain that lasts weeks. Also cannot perform barbell squats anymore for same reason. I was squatting 1.5x body weight 3x10 but I don't see that ever happening ever again. I'm 29 now maybe it's age, probably genetics but I've come to realize that squats are a dumb exercise. Would not recommend anyone to squat more than 1.25bw for 10 reps. You're setting yourself up for serious and potentially long term injury.

        For muscle definition and longevity it is way safer to focus on plyometrics. Essentially what women have been doing since the 80s. My personal new favorite is split squats. Low weight, high hypertrophy exercise that also works wonders for mobility.

        Lmao enjoy your hemorrhoids

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Take it slow next time grandpa

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      38 here... dont give up man. Give me something to look forward to at your age!

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >sedentary
      >regen is slower at later ages
      >could start slow to get the body used to it with some weeks of walking, some months of jogging, adapting the diet, etc
      >decide to RUN some KMs at once instead
      Yeah, enjoy your pain
      Take measures to properly heal it and start right next time
      At 35 I already feel the difference from 20, imagine at 44. Come on, you should have known this

      >Looks at people who actually do the most cardio
      >They all look like ass
      >Look at people who lift, sprint, do a little brisk walking a bit

      Pretty easy. If you excuse pictures of fitness models who are posing for a run and instead look at:

      >Long distance runners
      >Mountain climbers
      >Ultra endurance athletes
      >Triathlon winners

      They all have ass skinny-fat physiques, and it's not a coincidence. You do fuckloads of cardio and you have catabolism, especially as you struggle to hit calories.q

      >extreme activity stresses the body and is detrimental to general health
      No way, who could have possibly imagined it?
      These types of athletes are not valid for comparison, try any other healthier form of cardio next time, which is pretty much everything else

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I never understood this. If you replace the calories that you burned and are still in a surplus than what possible difference can it make?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It’s mostly bro science if you’re just regular buff. If you’re huge though, you might already be force feeding yourself. I’m just above 200 and 5 miles is like 800 kcals. Imagine a 240-ish amateur BB. It just becomes impossible for those types of people to add an extra 1000+ calories when you already wanna puke everything. Also it increases cortisol temporarily which some people just blindly link to increased fat in any situation but they’re retards.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Shit form

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      What's proper leg lift form?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Gotta really focus on the abs to avoid lifting with the hips. And go slowly on the negative to stretch the abs at the bottom

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    wow that's weird it looks like he's running towards me- oh jeez he's getting clo- uuhhh go awa- AAAAHHAH HE'S CHASING ME HOLY SHIT FUCK FUCK FUCK DUDE FUCK OFF AAAAAAHHHHHHH SOMEONE HELP THIS CRAZY GUY IS FUCKING CHASING ME AHASHUDHASDS HEEEEEEEEEELP HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELP

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >but muh so and so is big
    In spite of, not because of. Running is an accelerant of cortisol which is catabolic. Just walkmaxx. No aesthetic benefit to running.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    cardio actually increases gains because it improves blood flow and delivers more nutrients to all the muscles during recovery. just like squats will increase upper body muscle mass. mentally weak gays will deny this because they are afraid of the pain cardio brings.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Retarded natty who probably does pump training

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Retarded natty who probably does pump training

      >he lets blood enter his muscles when working out
      NGMI

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >just like squats will increase upper body muscle mass
      This one is false, though. Stop believing Rippletits.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >onlyfans
    wait, if I get somewhat lean, looksmax, etc, how much cash could i make doing workouts in my basement?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      $0, because you're not a woman.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Not true. You can make material for gay dudes if you’re fit/hot enough

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Gay porn dudes make like one tenth to half as much money.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    im certain cardio kills gains wasn't about someone running 5k 3 times a week

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The guy in OP is a marathon runner

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    At this point, only delusional boomers who fell for memes decades ago still believe that cardio "kills gains".

    They are often the same people who will suggest you to squat and drink a GOMAD to get big arms.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >static image of a dude
    >definitely a poser shot
    Christ you people are dense

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    the US is 50% obese, and 50% of people reach cardio exercise recommendations, only about 18% reach resistance training exercise recommendations.

    Cardio in the way that it is used is not very effective for weight loss and does not grow muscle. Cardio tells your body to be efficient with the calories you give it, this means reducing metabolism, but you can utilize more intense cardio to reduce this effect by making it both a cardio and muscle building bout, or you can utilize zone 2 training which puts you just on the threshold of anaerobic training, which isn't very intense and doesn't burn a whole lot of calories, but improves your metabolic functions and lactate efficiency, translating to more performance for harder exercise bouts.

    Just running or jogging or biking without any specificity is what the problem is. It's not bad for you if you also resistance train, you just probably won't gain as much muscle otherwise, and it's also likely not as large of a difference as people say, it's likely something like <5% muscle mass. The average person has more to gain by doing resistance training than cardio if they could only pick one, and I would elaborate further by saying higher rep resistance training would confer the most bang for your buck if time is an issue.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Lmao it's so funny to me how you bloatlords convinced yourself that cardio kills gains. If you think about it it makes sense though. Lifting weight isn't actually that hard especially if you do low reps. You only really suffer on the last few while cardio is more mentally demanding.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Should I bother with cardio if I want to build muscles? Does it actually kill gains.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It will kill gains if you run stupid amounts like 30 miles/week. Otherwise no you should be fine.

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    IST be like
    >exercise is not important for weight loss, diet is
    >also cardio kills gains lol
    bro it's either one or the other, if you are worried that you burn too many calories with cardio just eat a little more and cover the difference

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    As a fat fuck why shouldnt I do cardio+lift?
    I am starting gym again next month, in the meantime I have been running for a few months now, trying to make it a habbit and it is now

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You should do cardio and lifting

      Just make sure you ease into both so you stick to it because fatties are notorious for not commiting to things

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        How much cardio?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Ideally at least a couple times a week. You can always do more if you're bored. If recovery is needed from jogging for example then use an elliptical or similar until you feel better.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Idk who that other anon was, not me
            I try to do 5k when I can, so 5days a week, but that happens not that often. I know how u must make it a habbit, but I recently took a 10 day break and a few months before that I took a similiar break cus I feel myself stressing myself too much, oh and times improve when I come back from a break
            I just hope my knees dont explode

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      No reason. Do both, but, since you're a fat fuck, prioritize losing fat over building muscle for now.

      Otherwise, you risk becoming a permabulker.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        i dont see why you wouldnt want to engage in some cardio. at least being able to run a competent 5k. being able to exert yourself consistently for at least 30 minutes make life better in every way. people just dont like to do it because its hard and sometimes boring and they make excuses for it.

        and then he can be one of those spheres that rolls around the gym collecting all the 45s for his 1x3 squat

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Who is this? Google says its Ross Edgley but Ross is a roided manlet

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Nick Bare, vet fitness youtuber

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What is the most effective cardio?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      If you’ve got the means, rucking is my personal favorite (probably just because I’m good at it lol)

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        So just walk with weights? How is that better than running?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Easier to burn more calories

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If you run ~10 feet, stop, turn around in place and repeat in the other direction would that be a good run?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      No

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You see, there's cardio muscle, and non-cardio muscle.
    Cardio muscle takes longer to build and maintain, but it's a much stronger muscle than non-cardio muscle.
    The difference is that cardio muscle has much more blood vessels and capillaries than non-cardio muscle. Cardio muscle can endure high intensity workouts for long periods, once built up. Non-cardio muscle disintegrates once forced to do any activity other than lift heavy weights for 3 sets of 8 reps.
    Building cardio muscle is as easy as doing cardio while weight lifting.

    Bros say "cardio kills gains" because they've built non-cardio muscle, so as soon as they do endurance training, the muscle disintegrates. This is not a problem for cardio muscle.

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    i get ankle pain from cardio

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Man up you worthless dyel

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        im trying

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Sprint swim for cardio. It works muscle while building lung capacity and cardio. Far better than running for longevity.

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    he would be more jacked if he replaced cardio with more lifting

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