same old. chicken is always gonna be your best bet. greek yoghurt, curds / tvorog. sardines & herring. peanuts (inferior plant protein, but 20g protein per 100g is still a lot). >Whey
don't tell me you get most of your protein from it. 2 studies suggest you can only absorb 20g protein every 3 hours from it, everything else is diminished returns (40g only gets 10-20% more result)
note that all of this concerns only whey, it is the fastest acting protein and absorbs much quicker than other kinds
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5828430/#CR4 >Results showed that the myofibrillar fractional synthetic rate was ~20% higher from consumption of the 40 g compared to the 20 g condition. The researchers speculated that the large amount of muscle mass activated from the total body RT bout necessitated a greater demand for AA that was met by a higher exogenous protein consumption. It should be noted that findings by McNaughton et al. [22] are somewhat in contrast to previous work by Moore et al. showing no statistically significant differences in MPS between provision of a 20 g and 40 g dose of whey in young men following a leg extension bout, although the higher dose produced an 11% greater absolute increase [23].
there was this another study that fed participants either
a) 10g whey protein every 1.5h
b) 20g every 3h
c) 40g every 6h
turned out b) was significantly better than others.
there was also one podcast Nippard had with a protein researcher. basically the latter read all the studies etc. and he said the same thing, that for whey, the benefits in one dose taper off really hard after 20g. he noted that this doesn't really apply to other protein like meat or eg casein, as it takes much longer to absorb
>there was also one podcast Nippard had with a protein researcher. basically the latter read all the studies etc. and he said the same thing, that for whey, the benefits in one dose taper off really hard after 20g
absolutely nobody can make statements like this about the human body/metabolism, you are getting taken in by fraud "experts"
you cannot go in and understand this stuff or look at studies and understand them if you don't have a scientific education
>absolutely nobody can make statements like this about the human body/metabolism
his name is Dr J. Trommelen, Ph.D. he specifically researches muscle protein synthesis. he understands pretty well what he's talking about. you can watch his whole vid on Nippard's channel.
taking over 20g of whey protein (~30g of whey protein powder) won't give much benefit and this is a current consensus among many researchers. if you have arguments against this, go ahead and post them
no, you literally don't understand
you don't understand formal science, how to approach science, crises in science, and you don't have the formal education to read this stuff for comprehension
so in the end you are repeating what someone told you. it doesn't matter if you are referencing a study in doing so
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Anonymous
>it doesn't matter if you are referencing a study in doing so
ok rabbi, I won't be doing my research. I will trust ~~*science*~~
2 years ago
Anonymous
what you are doing is literally ~~*research*~~ and ~~*trusting science*~~
this is why i said you don't understand formal science or how to approach science
a study existing is meaningless. period. i can generate a gibberish study and publish it in one of the most respected journals. it's been done multiple times
2 years ago
Anonymous
>i can generate a gibberish study and publish it in one of the most respected journals.
and I can publish muh dick into your mom and generate some semen
2 years ago
Anonymous
i have profound mental moronation too damn
2 years ago
Anonymous
if you want my come back you'll have to scrape it from your moms teeth
2 years ago
Anonymous
wow dank insult dude. unfortunately i just munged your mom so im ok
2 years ago
Anonymous
i told you already, if you have any arguments, please post them. >you don't understand formal science
i can read, thank you. same exact thing has been said by other people >so in the end you are repeating what someone told you.
yes, what a PhD who specializes in muscle protein synthesis told me. >inb4 """trust the experts"""
yes, trust the actual experts on muscle protein synthesis, people who tell you to get 1g/lb of protein a day, get enough sleep and lift weights.
I just eat skyr, tuna, oats, chick peas, kidney beans, potatoes etc. and the occasional protein bar to keep me going if I'm not at home. I routinely come in at way more protein than I need. I think I might have to actually reduce my protein intake. (I have liver disease, am at elevated risk of kidney disease).
I'm at 715 kcal today so far. 47 grams of protein.
47 grams is what I need out of daily caloric intake of +1600. I'll be at 80-90 grams after dinner.
I think I'm allergic to eggs or something. They leave my throat irritated for the rest of the day. I try to keep my consumption of red meat to a minimum as I have heart disease (plus I hate having to deal with the preparation and clean-up).
Cosco sells 88% lean beef in packs, 6-8lbs of it for 3.99. I buy 4 of those and a 36 carton of eggs and that’s my protein for the week, other than 5% fat Greek yogurt, but that’s like 7$ a container now
same old. chicken is always gonna be your best bet. greek yoghurt, curds / tvorog. sardines & herring. peanuts (inferior plant protein, but 20g protein per 100g is still a lot).
>Whey
don't tell me you get most of your protein from it. 2 studies suggest you can only absorb 20g protein every 3 hours from it, everything else is diminished returns (40g only gets 10-20% more result)
but chicken is fricking disgusting
have you tried cooking it first?
>studies suggest
Proofs?
note that all of this concerns only whey, it is the fastest acting protein and absorbs much quicker than other kinds
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5828430/#CR4
>Results showed that the myofibrillar fractional synthetic rate was ~20% higher from consumption of the 40 g compared to the 20 g condition. The researchers speculated that the large amount of muscle mass activated from the total body RT bout necessitated a greater demand for AA that was met by a higher exogenous protein consumption. It should be noted that findings by McNaughton et al. [22] are somewhat in contrast to previous work by Moore et al. showing no statistically significant differences in MPS between provision of a 20 g and 40 g dose of whey in young men following a leg extension bout, although the higher dose produced an 11% greater absolute increase [23].
there was this another study that fed participants either
a) 10g whey protein every 1.5h
b) 20g every 3h
c) 40g every 6h
turned out b) was significantly better than others.
there was also one podcast Nippard had with a protein researcher. basically the latter read all the studies etc. and he said the same thing, that for whey, the benefits in one dose taper off really hard after 20g. he noted that this doesn't really apply to other protein like meat or eg casein, as it takes much longer to absorb
>there was also one podcast Nippard had with a protein researcher. basically the latter read all the studies etc. and he said the same thing, that for whey, the benefits in one dose taper off really hard after 20g
absolutely nobody can make statements like this about the human body/metabolism, you are getting taken in by fraud "experts"
you cannot go in and understand this stuff or look at studies and understand them if you don't have a scientific education
>absolutely nobody can make statements like this about the human body/metabolism
his name is Dr J. Trommelen, Ph.D. he specifically researches muscle protein synthesis. he understands pretty well what he's talking about. you can watch his whole vid on Nippard's channel.
taking over 20g of whey protein (~30g of whey protein powder) won't give much benefit and this is a current consensus among many researchers. if you have arguments against this, go ahead and post them
>HIS NAME IS
no, you literally don't understand
you don't understand formal science, how to approach science, crises in science, and you don't have the formal education to read this stuff for comprehension
so in the end you are repeating what someone told you. it doesn't matter if you are referencing a study in doing so
>it doesn't matter if you are referencing a study in doing so
ok rabbi, I won't be doing my research. I will trust ~~*science*~~
what you are doing is literally ~~*research*~~ and ~~*trusting science*~~
this is why i said you don't understand formal science or how to approach science
a study existing is meaningless. period. i can generate a gibberish study and publish it in one of the most respected journals. it's been done multiple times
>i can generate a gibberish study and publish it in one of the most respected journals.
and I can publish muh dick into your mom and generate some semen
i have profound mental moronation too damn
if you want my come back you'll have to scrape it from your moms teeth
wow dank insult dude. unfortunately i just munged your mom so im ok
i told you already, if you have any arguments, please post them.
>you don't understand formal science
i can read, thank you. same exact thing has been said by other people
>so in the end you are repeating what someone told you.
yes, what a PhD who specializes in muscle protein synthesis told me.
>inb4 """trust the experts"""
yes, trust the actual experts on muscle protein synthesis, people who tell you to get 1g/lb of protein a day, get enough sleep and lift weights.
why not just google the phrase "studies suggest you can only absorb 20g protein every 3 hours from it" and do your own research moron.
>studies suggest
>experts say
>scientists claim
Potatoes
Gorilla chow
Beef
I just eat skyr, tuna, oats, chick peas, kidney beans, potatoes etc. and the occasional protein bar to keep me going if I'm not at home. I routinely come in at way more protein than I need. I think I might have to actually reduce my protein intake. (I have liver disease, am at elevated risk of kidney disease).
I'm at 715 kcal today so far. 47 grams of protein.
47 grams is what I need out of daily caloric intake of +1600. I'll be at 80-90 grams after dinner.
>chick peas, kidney beans
>NOOOOOOOO DON'T EAT SOME OF THE HEALTHIEST FOODS IMAGINABLE LOOK AT THIS CHART
you aren't even remotely fit
I think I'm allergic to eggs or something. They leave my throat irritated for the rest of the day. I try to keep my consumption of red meat to a minimum as I have heart disease (plus I hate having to deal with the preparation and clean-up).
Up
Milk, eggs, fatty ground beef, Greek yogurt
Now stop being poor.
>fatty ground beef,
garbage tier source of protein tbh
You're gonna need the extra calories much more than the protein. Soon your only source of nutrients will be ZE BUGS™
>where do you get your protein
I eat pigeon sandwiches
what are you fricking poor?
Cosco sells 88% lean beef in packs, 6-8lbs of it for 3.99. I buy 4 of those and a 36 carton of eggs and that’s my protein for the week, other than 5% fat Greek yogurt, but that’s like 7$ a container now