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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >2024
    >Not embracing insomnia

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The second I lay down in bed I no longer am tired.
    I can lay there for hours, no phone, white noise, fan, jacking off, not jacking off, it doesnt matter. Nothing seems to work.
    The second I get out of bed I start yawning and am so tired again.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Have you tried sleep-aids like chamomile tea and ZMA?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/afnVVL1.jpg

      *completely ruins your life*

      What do you do during the day? If you're at home relaxing all day, don't expect to sleep like a baby.
      Be on your feet 8-10h and I highly doubt you'll have any trouble sleeping

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >What do you do during the day?
        Goon myself to futa hentai.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        bullshit, i'm busy as frick all day and still can't sleep

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Be on your feet 8-10h and I highly doubt you'll have any trouble sleeping
        why do you guys just say shit

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      What did the doc suggested you to do about it? Take care sleep deprived anon…

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >The second I lay down in bed I no longer am tired.
      I'm so glad I can't relate to this. I can fall asleep pretty much anywhere. Being awake is too boring.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Lifelong insomniac. I go through periods of having it under control and having it ruin my life.

      Lying in bed unable to sleep is actual fricking hell.

      https://i.imgur.com/Bv1GYu8.png

      >Fix your circadian rhythm via correct morning light exposure and avoiding incorrect evening light exposure
      >Wake/go to bed at the same time consistently every day
      >Stop consuming caffiene (including preworkout) 10-12 hours before bed time or within 90 minutes of waking up
      >Stop consuming alcohol/cannabis/any other drug that objectively compromises sleep quality
      >Stop exercising in the evening unless it is followed immediately by 10 minutes of down-regulation breathing (pic related) to engage the parasympathetic nervous system
      >Cold exposure in the morning and heat exposure in the evening
      There, I just fixed your ~~*insomnia*~~. You're welcome.

      Been doing this lately seems to be helping so far. Esp morning sunlight.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I can only sleep three hours a night, without fail, no matter what I do. My body gives me three hours to fuel 21 hours

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Seroquel was a life saver for my insomnia, but it's side effects I have to deal with

    >get crazy hungry about an hour after you take it, you can easily turn into a fat frick if you don't watch out because it also makes the experience of eating so much better
    >when you've been taking it for a while at does above 50mg/day your memory gets shitty (but goes back to normal when you stop)
    >it can interfere with other drugs that work on your brain

    Most people that haven't taken it will read about it and look at the doses schizophrenics take which are way higher than what insomniacs take.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Does it give you proper sleep though? I've been taking zopiclone and trazodone for a year or so but even when they give me 5-6 hours of uninterrupted sleep I still wake up exhausted, can barely eat anything due to a constant nausea plus they make my mouth so dry I can literally barely speak.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Best sleep of my life, actually.
        Though the first few times you take it you'll way oversleep (like, 12 hours) and feel kinda woozy the next day, well rested but you're slower. Your body gets used to it after a couple weeks.

        Zopiclone I suppose is nice to have on hand if you want a night off seroquel but I know what you mean, Zopiclone made my mouth taste like copper. You also get used to it very quickly.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          The copper taste went away pretty quickly after just a few weeks of use but itvdidnt even bother me because I associated it with a good night's resting sleep.
          Think I'll give quetiapine a shot. I'll have to convince my psychatrist I'm a depressed schizo first though. Shouldnt be that hard to pull off.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Those of you open to pharmaisraeliteticals, ask for a clonidine script for sleep, it was a life-changer for me. It's an old generic drug that should be very cheap, and it has very few side-effects- the worst thing it does it blunt REM somewhat. It doesn't work for everyone but it's worth a shot, especially if the alternative is booze, benzos, or something like Ambien that makes the photos on the wall start talking to you if you take one pill too many.
      Clonidine also has very few tolerance issues, unlike natural sleep aids like chamomile.

      This stuff will knock you on your ass if you don't have a tolerance, but it's a real bad habit to take it regularly. Save it for when you need it, and ideally don't need to be sharp in the morning.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        What about melatonin?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Melatonin is a complicated subject and I'm not sure what to recommend. I take a low dose (~1mg) daily with occasional breaks and it seems to help a little. Some people take five or ten times what I take, but it is a hormone and that sounds unwise to me; don't want to downregulate that system and become dependent on exogenous 'tonin.
          It's worth playing around with magnesium supplements if you haven't before; it's a common deficiency, and if you take it when you're deficient it can throw you right into sleepytown. Look for citrate, malate, glycinate, taurate, basically any form other than oxide.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Seething insomniacs in the back
      They HATE us because they ain't us.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Coming down on my schizo meds. Only slept 3 hours last night. I know that's not insomnia but it's coming, I already feel weak.

    The last time I had it and had been awake for a week I solved it by doing Wim Hof breathing for an hour. Just a pro tip for anyone out there.

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Fix your circadian rhythm via correct morning light exposure and avoiding incorrect evening light exposure
    >Wake/go to bed at the same time consistently every day
    >Stop consuming caffiene (including preworkout) 10-12 hours before bed time or within 90 minutes of waking up
    >Stop consuming alcohol/cannabis/any other drug that objectively compromises sleep quality
    >Stop exercising in the evening unless it is followed immediately by 10 minutes of down-regulation breathing (pic related) to engage the parasympathetic nervous system
    >Cold exposure in the morning and heat exposure in the evening
    There, I just fixed your ~~*insomnia*~~. You're welcome.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The self righteous smugness of people that think like this is something in and of itself beyond human hubris.

      J

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Take the advice and get better

        Or keep coping and clinging to your sad identity of being le hard-done-by insomniac lmao. I really don't care either way.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          See my post directly above below your last one to the other anon.
          Pull yourself up by your bootstraps is not a tool that people who have an issue they dont have under control can use to get it under control.

          Your just an butthole

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >let me give you the basic sleep hygiene spiel and act like I'm God dictating to Moses on Mount Sinai

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        6 years ago I would have agreed with you, but the polygamous marriage between psycho-somatic behaviors, unconscious behaviors, routine, diet, etc. Can functionally change your real brain chemistry in as little as 6 months, I've seen it happen multiple times.

        >Clinically depressed sadsack
        >Alcoholic skinnyfat
        >Indomniac gamer stoner
        >Self-doubting, self-hating goon
        >pale, unshowered human pet

        Then they start obsessively going to the gym, which regulates their daily energy levels, bleeds over into their diet, bleeds over into their sleep schedule, less time for bullshit so they have more money, they start cleaning their houses / caring about hygiene because they conflate gym progress with magical self improvement (no far off)

        Pretty soon they just start waking up happy. As if their brains developed the ability to regulate and self-produce neurotransmitters in healthy amounts.

        As if

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Nice anecdotes. I wont disagree going to the gym is a great start to get healthy.

          The part I feel you dont address is stressors outside of peoples control. I dont think you can put all people in the basket of just fix it, you can.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            You're not wrong. For every time I've seen this happen I've seen it fail 10.

            It's more of a remark that it's been done and it can be done. If someone is in a legitimately volatile situation where even getting fired from your job can mean instant homelessness, and the job is 12 hour shifts at some literal-abuse tier job, then there's just not room for self-improvement, assuming there's people he's providing for.

            I've led a very lucky life, and I'm grateful for that, although even if I had a much more shitty life, I have to believe I could have forced some wind into the sails through effort.

            Another anecdote: my alcoholic mom smoked 2 packs a day for 7 years, and the day she found out she was pregnant (so I'm told by all relatives) she instantly cold turkey'd both and never broke until all my siblings were raised and out of the house after 18. To this day ive nevwr in-person seen her drink or smoke. Its like a banned behavior around her kids. She went right back to smoking when the youngest left for college. There's within us the capability to just dominate many behaviors we suspect we can't control.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              I had to defend being accused of being an "abuser" in court for over a year among other wildly untrue things a few years ago.

              Ive since made pretty good gains for someone in their mid 30s, 10 pull ups and abs beginning to show, but I didnt sleep great then. It was out of m control and I knew it, that didnt give me tools to fix it is my anecdote.
              It ended up being ok, like I knew it would be, and the accuser kinda lost a lot more than i did.
              How many dudes go through divorce and say something like that? Cant blame everyone for all theur problems, even if you can see how it happens. Like your anecdote about your moms.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Just quit coffee first and foremost. Gym doesn't matter that much. Also don't talk to human parasites after 5 o clock

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      this, plus magnesium (do your own research on what form is right for you) and melatonin (preferably eaten before bed, in foods such as blueberries)

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    1 gram theanine and 1 gram magnesium-bisglycinate
    2 hours before bed

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >1 gram theanine
      isn't this supposed to be taken in the morning? also 1g isn't a lot?

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine not being able to sleep lmaooo I sleep like a fricking baby every night, I take naps during the day, I fricking love it.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I used to be a good sleeper but now I'm literally physically unable to fall asleep even when Im exhausted and cannot keep my eyes open from sleepiness.

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    lmao just close your eyes and fall asleep homie what the frick are you talking about

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    most people who have “insomnia” as a result of their own actions/environment. try identifying the things that affect your sleep and work on changing them instead of relying on some pharmaisraelite “sleep medication”

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Your not wrong about the medication part
      The part thats pants on head moronic is the casual description of a world where all factors that can ruin someone's sleep are things they can actively control.
      Identify it maybe, but you morons are saying something along the lines of "well the reasons some people are depressed are just things they should realize and control themselves"

      Ive never been on medication for either but pull your heads out of your asses. I did struggle with sleep for along time.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >you dont understand, I'm just special and built different!

        See my post directly above below your last one to the other anon.
        Pull yourself up by your bootstraps is not a tool that people who have an issue they dont have under control can use to get it under control.

        Your just an butthole

        >it's beyond my control! you're a meanie by not enabling me!
        homosexual
        You can absolutely change and improve your situation and you're a defeatist moron if you think you can't. You're not special and you're not oppressed by your biology, you just live like shit and are reaping the consequences.

        Just have a nice day now and spare anyone that you might influence in the future with your shitty cope.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >just world fallacy
          Mentally underage cretin

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I used general terms and did not refer to myself specifically except to point out Im not an insomniac.
            So going after me not the point isnt really an argument.

            Your jusy being an butthole

            moron

            >t. low-cognitive function sleeplets
            lmaoing at your lives. Take my advice and use it to fix yourselves instead of becoming married to your problems. You are not special and you are not magically built to be unable to sleep.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I used general terms and did not refer to myself specifically except to point out Im not an insomniac.
          So going after me not the point isnt really an argument.

          Your jusy being an butthole

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          moron

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        are you a woman? because you sound like a woman or a giant pussy. if you cant change your life to improve your sleep quality, while rebuking advice given to you by insightful anons, you dont deserve sleep. so enjoy being an insomniac homosexual while i get my 8 hours every night. maybe ill even take a nap later, just to rub it in your face

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          No, 34, straight white american male
          Just not an butthole
          Not trying to make people personally accountable for all of their problems while simultaneously blaming them for em.

          Can you understand that many words together without getting angrier?

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Normal sleep for adults means that you fall asleep within 10 to 20 minutes and get about 7–8 hours a night.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >you fall asleep within 10 to 20 minutes
      what the frick i don't think i've ever in my life fallen asleep in less than an hour

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >what the frick i don't think i've ever in my life fallen asleep in less than an hour
        You're not exercising hard enough.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          the more i excercise the worse it gets

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    sleep the best thing to do always

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    What i mean is a lotta guys get fricked in the situation I was in by a judge because they couldnt explain what was going on, I could.
    No way could i have gone to the gym then, no way would it have fixed my problems

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >finally get a good sleep routine
    >can fall asleep within 30 mins instead of laying awake for hours
    >body starts waking me up at 3:30am
    >can't fall back asleep
    >still can't get more than 6 hours of sleep

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Have you tried ASMR? Not the gross mouth noises but I find ones where they try to keep you focused and following instructions get me sleepy. I watch it on my phone with the brightness and white light turned down to the max of course.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >REST REST REST REST REST REST REST
      >GET SLEEPY GET SLEEPY GET SLEEPY GET SLEEPY

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        That sounds obnoxious. Just look up "follow my instructions", I know it sounds incredibly gay but it helps me. Something about them asking you to follow their fingers or follow the light makes me fricking sleepy

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I can sleep anywhere at any time

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Stop consuming caffeine two hours before bed and no screens 12 hours before bed.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Wow I never thought of that. Thanks anon!

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >12 hours before bed.
      Wtf literally impossible

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'll try that, thank you

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