Could you win a street fight with Muay Thai?

Could you win a street fight with Muay Thai?

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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Most kickboxers would get flattened by someone who knows how they kick and has good hands. Also they aren't that fast moving in and out leg kicks are gay.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >most kickboxers would get flattened by [people with training]
      Holy shit anon, you dont say?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm just noting the inadequacies of the style. They often are in ranges that don't work outside of kickboxing just like training in wrestling or bjj too much will get you punched or kicked by someone with a clue on how to fight.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Kickboxing is ideal for a street fight. Wrestling and bjj work because of three rules
        1) no stomping
        2) no hand strikes to the back of the head
        3) no downward elbows
        Also groundwork won't work with multiple aggressors (common scenario in street fights)

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          My earlier point is that most kickboxers slap eachother with pussy ass kicks then back away just to do it again. If their kickboxing sucks then boxing will beat them, boxing to wrestling wrestling to bjj.

          You really don't see anyone with speed and power to actually physically keep someone away, I could break 5 boards at like 15 most kickboxers are amateurs living in a fantasy land.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Board breaking is a meme and fake and gay. 40kg kids can break boards it means literally nothing.
            Pro kickboxers kick especially hard, but during a fight they have so much adrenaline they don't feel pain from the kicks. Certainly after the fight they realise it though, broken bones, bruising that lasts for a month etc.
            Take the recent Takeru fight for example. His knee is broken in the first round from low kicks but he kept fighting for the next 4 rounds. He wasn't able to train for a month after that.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              It's a good metric for power nobody pro can break 7+ boards which I've seen several times.

              >no perfect technique in a real fight
              Oh really no way, if you can't end a fight very quickly with punches you suck ass I don't want to be like people who mostly go to decision they're all skinny.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Trying to say grappling doesn't work in da streets when there is mountains of evidence is just moronic. How are you "stomping" someone who blast doubles you into the dirt then takes your defenseless back and RNC? Strikes to back of head/downward elbows benefits grapplers, many ways to pin someone and have full access to their skull.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      A leg kick would cripple anyone who isn't conditioned to take them
      Also a muay thai fighter cna do more than punch and kick, they can clinch and knee/elbow, which are arguably the strongest weapons in a street fight

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        There's also a few sweeps you could do to proceed to stomp someone down on the ground.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Front leg side kick demolishes any leg kick it's a move for cardio kickboxing you're learning from lazy white people who could maybe, maybe break as many boards as 14 year old me.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Put your foot on their leg and punch them, doesn't work on someone who can frick you up for real with a front leg side kick unless you're fast.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Noone aside from martial artists would klinch on streets. Youd either throw them (which MT doesnt really know how) or you get a knife in your gut.

        The only sole good thing MT employs is an upright leg sweep. Then again even a child knows how to do a leg sweep, so its not some invention of MT

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >flattened by someone who knows how they kick and has good hands
      So 0.01% of the global population

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      So against someone who has trained with kicks and punches, hmmm I wonder who trains that

      What do you do when they catch your kick and punch your balls then knee your face like anyone in a street fight would attempt to do? What do you do when the 1v1 becomes 5+v1?

      Let someone swing a bat at your leg and ribs and see if you can catch it

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Good hands are absent in kickboxing so are side kicks. If you're really fast and good you have insane range with it, pro fighters like roundhouses and head kicks which are easy as shit to step in on.

        Everyone in mma is relatively low skill with kickboxing and would get demolished boxing.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Everyone in mma is relatively low skill with kickboxing
          Alex Periera

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    you wrassle em

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Muay Thai works best with someone who's actually strong, notice how much less prevalent kos are on lower weight classes and how much less scared people are to eat a punch so they can wrestle. Nobody at all really kicks hard let alone proficiently in pro fighting atm afaik if you don't end a fight with a kick you're supposed to be fricked.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >yes they do
        Imagine someone eating an actual back kick or stepping side kick thrown by someone who can break 6+ boards. That's the typical karate requirement for a lower mid level black belt, they usually spar like shit though.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          1st and 2nd degree black belts suck ass btw they're always lazy stoners and that's usually who you see getting destroyed by someone with basic mma for 1yr in a serious gym. Fricking white people make mma look like a strip mall monstrosity.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Wrestling is superior to striking tho.
        I thought otherwise all life until i learned how to wrestle.
        People wrongly think that wrestling means throwing and then doing the bjj style groundwork. In reality in a street match you can throw a dude tf down and be on your feet.
        You underestimate how disabled most people become when you can handle them like flies.
        It is like with dogs - if you punch them they just get angrier.
        Throw them and theyll immediately flee.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Most people punch like a girl I don't want to learn the martial tendencies of a cretin moron. Go try to wrestle prime mike with 3 months of anti grappling training.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Is there any training I could do to beat him though? Short of a gun there's not much that would stop an attacker like that.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes? Stupid question

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      /thread

      Muay Thai works best with someone who's actually strong, notice how much less prevalent kos are on lower weight classes and how much less scared people are to eat a punch so they can wrestle. Nobody at all really kicks hard let alone proficiently in pro fighting atm afaik if you don't end a fight with a kick you're supposed to be fricked.

      >Nobody at all really kicks hard let alone proficiently in pro fighting atm
      Meanwhile in reality dude get kicked so hard his arm breaks and the fight is over

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  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You could win a street fight by simply drilling a jab and a cross. Most fight videos clearly show that your average person can't throw any punch that isn't a hook. They would be shocked when a jab hits them clean.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Or when they get rocked by a well placed headbutt, which is also a KO type of strike if planted well.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I’ve trained BJJ and Muay Thai for years and I frequently autistically fantasise about having to fight someone in the street
    What I’ve noticed from training both is that Muay Thai is the best go to, it keeps you upright and vigilant of multiple attackers, weapons etc, BJJ is there as a worst case scenario
    >my first step in a street altercation is not escalate, try to walk away
    >if I can’t, use a teep or a leg kick to give them a hard blow and hopefully they back down
    >if they get closer throw some long rage jabs and a big cross
    >if they rush me, straight into the clinch and throw a knee into their belly and them some elbows most people aren’t expecting it and don’t know how to defend against them

    I’ve sparred with some high level clinchers and it is very oppressive and overwhelming when they can beat you in the clinch
    >BJJ to defend takedowns and save my life if I end up on the ground
    BJJ itself isn’t very useful because we practice the sport with a lot of restriction, in a real fight prepared to be bitten, kicked, headbutt, groin strikes etc.

    All in all OP is a dipshit for asking no shit a martial art designed for the military would help win a street fight

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Didn’t even read it all but holy frickin autism

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What do you do when they catch your kick and punch your balls then knee your face like anyone in a street fight would attempt to do? What do you do when the 1v1 becomes 5+v1?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You seem to be under the impression that catching a kick is easy.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's impossible to catch a kick without taking damage
        Average person will still feel like they've taken a few broken ribs and instantly be winded if they somehow manage to catch a kick from a trained muay thai fighter/kickboxer

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What do you do when someone catches your punch and breaks your arm then punches you in the face, crushed your balls and stomps on you?!?!?!?!

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Also this.
      Everything he said is on point, I would just add what I said i my post, that BJJ is optimal for staying out of legal trouble.
      BJJ is for "worst case scenario" but I also want t suggest a "best case scenario", where you are 1 on 1, and can stop he fight without doing too much damage to you opponent, only as much as is absolutely necessary.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This guy gets it.

      There is a difference between fighting and violence.

      Violence happens fast and usually without warning. The sad truth is that if someone wants you dead, there is very little you can do to prevent it when a weapon is involved. All this Hollywood shit is BS. In prison, a person with a knife will just charge you with head down and stab you in the abdomen repeatedly until you are dead. None of this wide slashing movements that easily blocked. Real killers tighten up and stab to death.

      Also numbers matter. Even a Navy Seal Team Six soldier will go down fast in a fight against 2-3 determined opponents. If you are attacked by a group, your best bet is ALWAYS to run.

      In terms of street fighting, the only real answer is boxing. Why? Because while BJJ and everything is effective in a ring / controlled environment, if you go to the ground in a street fight you are fricking done. It just takes one kick in the head from a spectator (happens in like 90% of bar fights) and you are out.

      Why not kung fu, karate, judo, etc. etc? Realistically kicking doesn't work in street fights because its easy to fall down, and once on the ground you are done as described above. Also most McDojo's in America don't really train against opponents ACTUALLY trying to hurt you. Everything is controlled, lawyered up and pleassant and designed to be restrained. Krav Maga fails for the same reason, becase you are never actually fighting against a person with an actual assault riflle trying to kill you (odds are terrible even for a Krav Maga expert in that situation in real life anyway).

      Boxing has none of those problems. The Gyms in America are usually pretty good with actual boxing champions and legacies. Its simple: you get in the ring and you are ACTUALLY trying to punch the person as hard as you fricking can and he is to you. It is the ultimate practice for fighting because you are actually fighting each and every time in the ring

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >BJJ itself isn’t very useful because we practice the sport with a lot of restriction, in a real fight prepared to be bitten, kicked, headbutt, groin strikes etc.
      Meme excuse from people who don't fight. Has not been my experience. Most street fights don't involve biting or eye gouging, but do involve heads bouncing off the pavement from grappling or mounted punches. Not being able to escape a 260 lb Bubba sitting in full mount blasting your skull into the asphalt is a death sentence.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      BJJ seems the best when its a 1v1 situation or to neutralize someone.
      In a street fight I would simply kick the balls and when they kneel down in pain I'd axe kick the back of their head. Unbeatable strat.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Today I will remind them

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The average street combatant is drunk and has no muscle or skill. You decide.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Could you win a street fight with Muay Thai?
    Combat training>significant size/strength difference>sports combat training>general fitness>no advantage

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes I did

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    assuming that I can use every dirty move, what's the meta for street fighting? kick in the nuts? double punch in the face and gut?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      just bring diatomaceous earth

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        explain?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Literally just use passable form and punch them in the face. A street fight is so far below the level of an organized fight that it's basically microscopic.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The meta has always been sucker punching.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Having a weapon or as the other person said, striking first.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Saying "oops my shoe got untied" then uppercutting them woth a shoryouken

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      straight kick to the knee
      not really honorable and good chance you'll frick them up long term but it works
      realistically though, unless they have a gun or are threatening your family just run away. It's not worth the time in court and possible criminal sentencing . Not to mention the chance of personal injury if you can't end the fight in one move.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >standing on one leg
        Probably half of all MMA/Kickboxing knockouts are caused by this. One guy kicking the leg while the other swings a punch at his head. There are fighters who deliberately kick your leg just to get you to do it back so they can time a punch and heem you.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      just kiss the dude on the lips he wont be prepared to that

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I always carry a cloth bag filled with a hanful amount of sand. If someone try to frick with me I just throw it in their eyes and proceed to sucker punch him

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Could you win a street fight with Muay Thai?
    If you're fighting someone of similar build/height who has no martial arts or fighting exprience, then yes, you have a high probability to come out on top.
    Most martial arts give you enough technique and conditioning to come out on top in a fight.
    The vast majority of people have no training, lift weights or even do cardio, so if you do all 3 of these things you're way more likely to win against someone who doesn't.

    Muy Thai, Kickboxing, regular Boxing, MMA, and JiuJitsu are the best but others like Judo and Karate also work, but are less useful IRL.
    If someone asked which ones are the best/they should pick, I would advice one for striking, Muy Thai or Boxing or MMA and also BJJ for submissions.
    Do not underestimate or ridicule BJJ. It's the only martial art that when trained properly gives you 2 things the others do no : Taking down bigger/stronger opponents and more importantly, allows you to end a fight without seriously injuring the opponent, which is very important in case of legal action.
    That's the thing people always forget.
    Hitting/Knocking out someone is extremely danegerous for your own self in case you have to defend yourself in court.
    Submitting someone using grappling/BJJ is never going to be seen as an excessive use of force, while smashing someone's face in almost always will.

    So in short, the perfect skillets for fighting are either Striking (Muy Thai/Boxing...) + BJJ/Grappling or MMA because it combines both into one.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You sound like you dont train

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I would spam jump attacks. How the frick are you going to land a low kick on me now homosexuals hahahaha

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Christian Bale in Equilibrium already demonstrated the ultimate martial art you idiots.

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes

    99.999% of all martial artists are NOTHING even near the level of elites you associate the sport with.
    Muay thai also use awkward idea of taking a hit so while he pretends to be tough hed have a fist travelling through his skull.
    Frankly to be very honest with all my martial arts experience plai simple boxing and or judo or wrestling will demolish most opponents.
    This is why sambo which essentially is wrestling with striking is demolishing UFC where allt hose bjj and muaytalhai and whatever not simply can't fight against extremely simple force
    >bruce lee:""I'd fear not a man who did 1000 kicks once, but instead who did 1 kick 1000 times"

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I can win any fight with muay Thai and a gun

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Likely, but I’m very violent and have bitten off fingers, gouged eyes, fractured skulls etc in fights but it depends on the individual I’m going up against.

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Someone post that webm of the skinny middle aged sweater dork just kicking the shit out of a shirtless guy

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, but striking along is not sufficient, you should do Muay Thai + Judo + BJJ so you can defeat Black folk in any scenario (standing, throws, and ground)

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why does some variant of 'which martial art is going to help me win a street fight??' get discussed to death every single day?

    If you've ever actually seen fights on the street they're 99% of the time between homeless people, or drunk idiots who can't throw a punch to save their lives, so arguing about which is the most effective is stupid. I swear this is really just a huge larp exercise where you want to walk around thinking you can beat up every c**t you pass by in the street, which is so embarrassingly juvenile. Even if you perform the epic knockout you've been visualising, you lose, the cops don't just turn up and say 'yeah good punch mate that guy was being a huge frickwit', no you get arrested and have to face court

    >t. has spent dozens of hours of my life, months of stress and thousands of dollars dealing with legal bullshit because of a drunk argument one night that I easily could have walked away from

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Greentext pls?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This happened to a friend of mine.
      >Was leaving a club with a girl.
      >Some guy was talking shit.
      >He talked shit back.
      >Other guy took a swing and missed, my friend punched back and hit him square in the nose.
      >Cop shows up right when my friend swinging so thinks hes the aggressor.
      >both get arrested and charged with assault
      >spends over $10k in lawyer fees and finally gets charges dropped
      >almost loses his career
      >issue stills shows up on google search even though no criminal record
      >dumb girl left at the first sign of trouble that night anyway

      Fighting is dumb for these reasons. Cops arrest everybody and let the lawyers sort it out. Lawyers are scum and will elongate the process to maximize their money.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Lawyers are scum and will elongate the process to maximize their money.

        i had a very stupid court case (eventually dropped) where i had to show up to the court house on an off day. i spent a couple hours waiting around to sign papers. if most people saw how buddy-buddy the lawyers and judges are with each other it would scare them

        fighting outside a ring is totally moronic. only weirdo LA influencers like joe rogan or 20 year olds with literally nothing to lose think its cool. people show up all the time in the paper bonking their head off concrete and just dying over dumb shit

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >joe rogan or 20 year olds with literally nothing to lose think its cool. people show up all the time in the paper bonking their head off concrete and just dying over dumb shit
          I feel like he'd be against it considering he talks about being terrified of knocking someone out in TKD all the time.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            i dont watch joe at all but ive seen videos of him talking about tough guy fight fantasies of his. he literally said "i have violence in my dna" which is the funniest shit to say for someone that is 5'5 and on tons of pharma gear

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              He's talked about it but I don't think he'd actually condone it given all the consequences of street fighting. I think most guys fantasize about street fighting sometimes

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Why wasn't your friend able to run away?

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The first time someone punches me on the street they're catching a bullet.

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If you want to win a street fight you are on the wrong board. Go visit /k/

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