>day 2 of no alcohol after tapering down from 16-18 beers a day

>day 2 of no alcohol after tapering down from 16-18 beers a day
How long until I stop feeling kind of shitty / no motivation?

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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Learn moderation

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yea, I would like to, but I think I need to go for sometime without drinking before I could consider doing it again, if at all. I had no problem limiting myself at social venues (being around others and being worried about their perception of me is one of the few things that motivates me to keep my shit together, which is a problem) but I got way too comfortable drinking alone. I think I need to get new hobbies too, I just don't really enjoy shit like vidya or movies anymore unless I'm not sober. Like I can enjoy one movie or maybe an hour of vidya, but then I just ask what the frick am I doing. I bought an e-reader last week and have been reading about history everyday for ~2hrs for the past 4-5 days, but I need to find some other stuff too.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Not a thing when it comes to addiction, is either 1 or 0, on/off

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    depends, but probably a few weeks. how low did you taper before stopping completely? and maybe more importantly, how long was the taper?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Like 15-16 days. Started with 16 beers, then 14 the next day, then 12, then from there I just had 1 less beer everyday except for some of the last days (would have 4 beers, then 3.5 beers, then 3). I know this is moronic, but on the last 3 days I bought a six pack and drank 3 beers one day, 2 beers the next, and 1 beer on the final day. I felt pretty proud of not just drinking them all at once.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        forgot to ask before but how long were you drinking that much? months, years?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Uh like a little under year and a half, which a few periods of sobriety (like 3-4 stints of 4-5 days and one stint that was like a month). And it gradually ramped up. Started with me having like 6-8 beers a night for a couple months, then 8-10, then 12, and then 14-16. Some nights I even had 18-20, but that was rare.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            so youre probably in for a bad time then, gonna be several weeks till you feel normal. alcohol is a GABA drug, drinking anymore during the coming weeks could really frick the withdrawal up, so stay off it completely. its also like benzos in that alcohol withdrawal will become worse each time you go through it(kindling effect)
            just go day by day, dont worry too much about the coming weeks. find something to occupy your time, physical exercise will help. if you get massive rebound anxiety or claustraphobia, going outside will help. try melatonin for sleep. avoid caffeine if you can, itll make you feel significantly worse

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Thank you, anon. I have no plans to drink at all for the coming months. Shit ruined a bunch of fitness progress I made and was just destroying my life overall. I envy people who can control themselves, but that's just the way it is I suppose.

              Do you think fasting and drinking a shitton of water could help as far detox goes, or would not eating just make it worse?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                yes drink lots of water. you might also start craving sugar or salty stuff since you were getting a metric shit ton of that from beer, so have some candy or sweet fruit around maybe
                not eating will make it worse, try to eat as normally as you can. you also dont need a giga-chad fitness program right now, just do whatever you can do get your heart pumping. bodyweight stuff, pushups pullups, squats, whatever. cardio.
                once again gotta stress how important it is to avoid caffeine, that shit will make your skin feel like its on fire during withdrawal. GABA is like an off button for your brain, and all that beer has been keeping it on off mode for as long as youve been drinking. any kinda stimulant is gonna make you feel really restless and shitty
                t. former opiate, benzo, alcohol addict

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Appreciate your continued input. I'll be honest, I have been drinking 2-3 cups of coffee for the past week or so, and I haven't felt awful, or at least not as awful as your describing. I'm trying to use it to replace cigarettes, which are also a problem, especially now the cigs are really my only vice. I'm going to visit relatives in a couple weeks so I might try to cut them both out there, but it's hard for me where I live because I'm right next to a cornerstore and it's so easy to buy them (surprise surprise, this is also where I would get all my booze) My sleep schedule is also kind of messed up right now, even though I'm able to sleep, so the coffee / cigs help me stay awake to do shit like read. I'm afraid cutting them out right now would just make things a lot worse in the immediate days, but maybe I should.

                Can I ask how long you've been sober and how you were able to find things to do that made you not want to use substances?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                maybe just cut back on the coffee by a cup or two and see how you feel. if theres no difference then just keep drinking it if it works for you. id worry about cutting out cigarettes later, once you get through the alcohol shit
                ive been off that stuff for 6 years. basically i hit rock bottom, got the point where i didnt wanna be on any drugs anymore cause it was just fricking everything up. had no friends left, felt physically SHIT every day, i was like 115lbs skinnyfat at 5'10.
                i never really had cravings but i didnt feel like i moved past it until i started to get other stuff in my life. i started to take my job more serious, started to take fitness seriously, took an interest in the community around where i live(events in the city, crap like that). fitness was probably the biggest thing though, once i started to see gains it felt great. im not huge but i put on a lot of muscle, im 145lb, low bodyfat, abs and all that stuff. gave me a lot of confidence
                its different for everyone though. the longer youre off it, the less youll think about it. try to pick up a new hobby maybe, or start going hard on fitness once youre through the worst of the withdrawal. after a long enough time, it kinda just becomes that weird part in your life you think about now and then

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            https://i.imgur.com/GGdaPHu.png

            >day 2 of no alcohol after tapering down from 16-18 beers a day
            How long until I stop feeling kind of shitty / no motivation?

            You'll be a human again in two weeks and you'll feel pretty good in two months. The next two weeks are going to be depressing though. You feel any of the anhedenia / absence of joy? That's what always gets me drunk again.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Yea, I definitely think I get the ahedonia / absence of joy. I just simply don't enjoy my typical hobbies anymore if I'm not drunk. If I try to play vidya I get bored really quick and question why I'm even bothering with this shit in the first place. Vidya, watching shit on my computer or just scrolling on IST are the only things I've been doing for a while. Trying to replace vidya with reading and find some new things to do, but I gained a bit of weight from this whole ordeal and I don't really want to try and do new shit until I take care of that.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It was horrible for me. I'd feel utter bleak joylessness while working and living my life. BJJ / weightlifting helped a lot, maybe because of the forced social contact and maybe because of the physical shock. Anything to crush that boredom compounded with sad.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            you'll feel much better soon - sleep a lot and give your body the chance to heal from the damage you did. one day you'll wake up full of energy and dopamine and wonder how you lived the way you once did.

            t. former 2 fifths a day alcoholic

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        For a month or so.
        >blah blah blah biological mechanism
        Alchie brains are perma fricked. Best to replace drinking addiction with cardio addiction. Sitting at home with nothing but your wiener in hand is not a good situation to be in.

        Uh like a little under year and a half, which a few periods of sobriety (like 3-4 stints of 4-5 days and one stint that was like a month). And it gradually ramped up. Started with me having like 6-8 beers a night for a couple months, then 8-10, then 12, and then 14-16. Some nights I even had 18-20, but that was rare.

        Mirin' the self restraint. YGMI!!!

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Alchie brains are perma fricked
          Do you mean from a cravings standpoint? I'm 26 and hope I didn't do serious damage to my IQ. I'm sure some of the affects of drinking so frequently for a year and half have some permanent effects, but I'm hoping they aren't severe. It's probably the 2nd biggest reason why I wanted to quit, closely behind how much it was fricking up my physical body. Thank you for the encouragement.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    insomnia

    day 2 sucks man, give it a month but take it day by day.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I think my withdrawal symptoms are a lot less severe because I spent a little over two weeks tapering. I've done the whole quit cold turkey after drinking 16 beers a day for a while, and it was fricking awful. Could not sleep whatsoever, felt disassociated as frick, tons of anxiety, heart palpitations, the works. I didn't really have a problem going to sleep last night, so hopefully that continues, even though day 2 felt the worst last time as well.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    good luck buddy. detox sucks and i remember getting lots of night terrors when i stopped drinking heavily.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Thank you, anon. Yes I have had some really awful dreams when trying to quit cold turkey before.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Magnesium is a must. Trust me.

    Also the linger you are away from the heavy drinking the easier it will get.

    >t.drank a little of hard liquor 5-6 nights a week for ten years and now enjoy like 6-8 white claws once a month

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Well I have been supplementing magnesium for the past week or so, so that's good to know. I take 1 400mg pill before bed, is that a fine amount? Also funny, Whiteclaws were what I was drinking even though I refer to them as "beers", either that or the rare vodka soda. Beer makes me feel like shit.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How much magnesium do you need? Kirkland multi has 84mg or something

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I dont have a dosage but I usually have two of the pills that come from the bottle I buy at costco.

        Take the recommended and maybe adjust if you are a big guy.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Take x2 b complex pills a day. Alcos are almost universally depleted in b vits, mag and potassium.
    Eggs, taters, nanas, and in these first few days supps.
    It's gonna kinda suck for a while with the boredom, but just don't drink.
    You almost certainly broke the worst of it with the taper, the fact your sleeping at all tells me that.
    Anon, I'm serious about
    >b vits, mag and potassium

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How much of each? Does it matter which magnesium? Asking for a friend haha

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No not really. The best way I found was to buy plain ebsom salt and bathe in it every morning. Make sure to mind the instructions, use too much and you'll poop in your car.
        With the b vits, just get some and double the dose for two days then take it as directed.
        Potassium your best bet is going to be some NoSalt type salt "replacement". Mix with water and drink. I'm not looking up the dosage so you'll wanna do that.
        Lift even if you don't feel like it, it will help. Sun and water, turn to Christ, He's helped me more than anything and everything else.
        I was a disgusting drunk, fifth a day at least and I'd drink mouthwash if I had to to stave off the blue horrors, things get so much better.
        Get lean and strong anon, it helps me a lot to be able to see my body decay when I've fallen off in the past.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Thank you, I have potassium salts, mag supps and b-complex. Was previous aware of b-complex issue but not mag/potassium

      maybe just cut back on the coffee by a cup or two and see how you feel. if theres no difference then just keep drinking it if it works for you. id worry about cutting out cigarettes later, once you get through the alcohol shit
      ive been off that stuff for 6 years. basically i hit rock bottom, got the point where i didnt wanna be on any drugs anymore cause it was just fricking everything up. had no friends left, felt physically SHIT every day, i was like 115lbs skinnyfat at 5'10.
      i never really had cravings but i didnt feel like i moved past it until i started to get other stuff in my life. i started to take my job more serious, started to take fitness seriously, took an interest in the community around where i live(events in the city, crap like that). fitness was probably the biggest thing though, once i started to see gains it felt great. im not huge but i put on a lot of muscle, im 145lb, low bodyfat, abs and all that stuff. gave me a lot of confidence
      its different for everyone though. the longer youre off it, the less youll think about it. try to pick up a new hobby maybe, or start going hard on fitness once youre through the worst of the withdrawal. after a long enough time, it kinda just becomes that weird part in your life you think about now and then

      Yea I'll see if I can't get down to 1-2 cups a day, thanks again for the insight.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    if you ever NEED to buy again, get a 32oz big boy, or even a 25oz. once your tolerance goes down (and it will drastically) a 25oz will actually get you feeling quite good.
    t. in the exact same mode as you right now
    as for when will sobriety feel good? only a few more days, if even that.
    good job on tapering off. good job on making it happen.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Thanks, bro. Good job on your progress as well, and good looking going forward.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Good looking
        Woops, meant goodluck.

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