>destroys your pecs. >destroys your tris. >gentle on the shoulders and elbows

>destroys your pecs
>destroys your tris
>gentle on the shoulders and elbows
>improves your shoulder mobility
>feels awesome as frick
How do you respond to this information?

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >gentle on the shou-
    AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACK

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACK-
      HHHHHHHHHHRM I feel fine

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Why is there a skeleton inside of us?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          u have one if u have drank milk as a kid

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        bro is funny for no reason

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          kys zoomer

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Heh

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        jej

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I really can't get these to work my chest half as much as rto pushups do. Sort of like pullups I can't even really tell what the point of failure is I just know I can't get another rep out or even a partial.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      chest is made for holding shit between hands by compression - very important cloombing motion for example, think opening jars

      pushing with ur arms bend far far away - nobody does that in real life, if ya need to push in hydraulic coupling on machine u're locking ur shoulder and chest does frickall, if u want to push 4 ton trailer by hand on uneven concrete arms are straight and ur glutes and calves are working

      pushing as fitness understands it is completely contrived and very harmful movement, don't do it, it's moronic
      >than how u've build ur wonderful full chest?
      other movements - do u want me to get into it?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        NTA but please do

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No I don't.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >pushing with ur arms bend far far away
        your pecs don't get built from locking out your elbows, they get built when they get stretched by your arms going behind your body
        my shoulder mobility is nowhere near good enough to do the shit in vid related https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fa7Qp05Gk9A , but trust me when i say that it'll build your pecs like nothing else if your shoulders are mobile enough

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They can get built by locking out a bench press or a variation thereof like dips. There's three roads to hypertrophy, aka three uses for skeletal muscles, that I know of. Contraction, stretch, and bracing. All roads to hypertrophy lead to.. hypertrophy. It's the same thing no matter how you got there. We have all these argument over the best way to build a muscle but it doesn't need to be the best way, it just needs to be a way.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >They can get built by locking out a bench press or a variation thereof like dips
            locking out bench is pure impingement

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >it just needs to be a way.
              that is whole point bot, u're giving complex motions that often have very little to do with muscle asked for, always harmful, always wrong, not only will they not build what is asked for but also frick up unsuspecting reader time and again

              pushing is not legitimate motion - no such thing in real life scenario and if there is it's impingement and u should avoid it [...]

              I'm getting real tired of this everyone's a bot everything is impingement shit. Post body so we can laugh.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I'm getting real tired of this everyone's a bot everything is impingement shit. Post body so we can laugh.
                It's just the one guy he was posting the longest dumbest takes in the routines thread a week ago and in a fatloss/cardio thread the other day. He's just most mentally handicapped poster on this board and doesn't realize it.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >it just needs to be a way.
            that is whole point bot, u're giving complex motions that often have very little to do with muscle asked for, always harmful, always wrong, not only will they not build what is asked for but also frick up unsuspecting reader time and again

            pushing is not legitimate motion - no such thing in real life scenario and if there is it's impingement and u should avoid it

            chest is made for holding shit between hands by compression - very important cloombing motion for example, think opening jars

            pushing with ur arms bend far far away - nobody does that in real life, if ya need to push in hydraulic coupling on machine u're locking ur shoulder and chest does frickall, if u want to push 4 ton trailer by hand on uneven concrete arms are straight and ur glutes and calves are working

            pushing as fitness understands it is completely contrived and very harmful movement, don't do it, it's moronic
            >than how u've build ur wonderful full chest?
            other movements - do u want me to get into it?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >they get built when they get stretched by your arms going behind your body
          ONLY the outer part of pec, he is getting into this position by rolling shoulders forward - it's an gimmic, it's harmful, u're gonna frick urself up

          besides it's anterior delt movement predominantly and long head of trike - chest is NOT the prime mover here

          want chest? ucv standing db raise for upper, put ur palms together with forearms in line and pray 4 40 seconds to chesticle gods - that's chest

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >ONLY the outer part of pec
            still falling for 2000s broscience? only upper/lower pec can be biased, you cannot bias inner pec. i don't do your bullshit movements and i have good inner pecs, explain that?
            >it's an gimmic, it's harmful, u're gonna frick urself up
            wrong, it's perfectly safe so long as you have the shoulder mobility. but keep spouting lies, no one will believe you anyway 🙂
            >besides it's anterior delt movement predominantly and long head of trike - chest is NOT the prime mover here
            chest is the prime mover - how can triceps and anterior delt adduct the humerus that much? they can't, only pecs can do that. anterior delt and tris are almost silent during that kind of dip
            >want chest? ucv standing db raise for upper, put ur palms together with forearms in line
            unsurprising that you post two exercises that require nothing from you and give nothing back, just as i expected. good luck with flapping your arms or whatever but i want actual growth thank you very much

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >still falling for 2000s broscience? only upper/lower pec can be biased, you cannot bias inner pec. i don't do your bullshit movements and i have good inner pecs, explain that?
              explain what? u just said it, doesn't make it true - praying to chesticle gods:

              >they get built when they get stretched by your arms going behind your body
              ONLY the outer part of pec, he is getting into this position by rolling shoulders forward - it's an gimmic, it's harmful, u're gonna frick urself up

              besides it's anterior delt movement predominantly and long head of trike - chest is NOT the prime mover here

              want chest? ucv standing db raise for upper, put ur palms together with forearms in line and pray 4 40 seconds to chesticle gods - that's chest

              >want chest? ucv standing db raise for upper, put ur palms together with forearms in line and pray 4 40 seconds to chesticle gods - that's chest
              gave my chest berserk like teeth in the middle after mere 2 weeks 😀
              >wrong, it's perfectly safe so long as you have the shoulder mobility. but keep spouting lies, no one will believe you anyway 🙂
              again - u made no argument at all, statement doesn't work as evidence
              >chest is the prime mover - how can triceps and anterior delt adduct the humerus that much? they can't, only pecs can do that. anterior delt and tris are almost silent during that kind of dip
              now u just want me to go by straight up lying 😀
              >unsurprising that you post two exercises that require nothing from you and give nothing back, just as i expected. good luck with flapping your arms or whatever but i want actual growth thank you very much
              i mean they work, and are safe, unironically safe and effective, just put ur palms together and pray to chesticle gods literally watching as chest engorges with blood 😀

              we're done bot

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >explain what?
                inner and outer chest are just different segments of the same fiber that stretches across your chest - upper and lower chest are different fibers entirely. you bias upper or lower by resisting force that is more parallel with upper or lower fibers - how can you do that with inner and outer when they exist along the same fiber?
                >again - u made no argument at all, statement doesn't work as evidence
                what is your argument? you declare that the movement is inherently dangerous? why? because your immobile shoulders aren't prepared yet? because you egolift with fast reps and too much weight? yes, get stronger and more mobile shoulders and the movement will be safe and pain-free.
                >now u just want me to go by straight up lying 😀
                see, now you assert things with no evidence. how can the long head of triceps dominate the movement when it isn't even the right function? it extends the shoulder but a dip needs shoulder flexion - wrong function produces isometric contraction, no contribution to the movement, therefore it is silent. now do you really believe that you can front raise 200lb? of course not, but your pecs are strong and can handle such weight, hence why they are the prime mover. and of course they are - it is nothing but transverse adduction, the exact motion that the pecs are designed to perform. anterior delts are for shoulder flexion not transverse adduction
                >just put ur palms together and pray to chesticle gods literally watching as chest engorges with blood 😀
                i do 3 deep dips and my chest becomes beet red, bursting with blood. does that mean you believe they're good too?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >does that mean you believe they're good too?
                no that's just hypertension bot - drop the roids 😀

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >no that's just hypertension bot
                mhm, and where's your evidence? right, you have none. roidgays look like a damn tomato at all times while i look completely normal, pecs only turn red when i train them, skin looks completely normal otherwise. guess i'm natty and you're BTFO 🙂
                >also gj chickening out of responding to my other points, don't think i didn't notice mr. GPT 4. maybe if you double your dataset next time you'll be able to keep up with me hehe

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                u thought that was serious? u're adorable - this alter ego of yours is of no use to me - go away

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >our pecs don't get built from locking out your elbows
          never said that bot - i said:

          chest is made for holding shit between hands by compression - very important cloombing motion for example, think opening jars

          pushing with ur arms bend far far away - nobody does that in real life, if ya need to push in hydraulic coupling on machine u're locking ur shoulder and chest does frickall, if u want to push 4 ton trailer by hand on uneven concrete arms are straight and ur glutes and calves are working

          pushing as fitness understands it is completely contrived and very harmful movement, don't do it, it's moronic
          >than how u've build ur wonderful full chest?
          other movements - do u want me to get into it?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Didn't ask Black person

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No I don't.

          bwhahahahha too late bot 😀

          >they get built when they get stretched by your arms going behind your body
          ONLY the outer part of pec, he is getting into this position by rolling shoulders forward - it's an gimmic, it's harmful, u're gonna frick urself up

          besides it's anterior delt movement predominantly and long head of trike - chest is NOT the prime mover here

          want chest? ucv standing db raise for upper, put ur palms together with forearms in line and pray 4 40 seconds to chesticle gods - that's chest

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >do u want me to get into it?
        Do what you want and stop being coy about it, attention whoring homosexual.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          i already did:

          chest is made for holding shit between hands by compression - very important cloombing motion for example, think opening jars

          pushing with ur arms bend far far away - nobody does that in real life, if ya need to push in hydraulic coupling on machine u're locking ur shoulder and chest does frickall, if u want to push 4 ton trailer by hand on uneven concrete arms are straight and ur glutes and calves are working

          pushing as fitness understands it is completely contrived and very harmful movement, don't do it, it's moronic
          >than how u've build ur wonderful full chest?
          other movements - do u want me to get into it?

          u r free to weigh in bot 😀

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >i already did:
            Good. Next time don't stoop to asking permission to post.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >chest is made for opening jars
        the cope people will go to to avoid dips is astounding

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >destroys your pecs
      only your sternum
      >destroys your triceps
      only your lateral and medial heads
      >gentle on the shoulders and elb-AAAAAACK
      >improves your shoulder mobility
      there are better alternatives
      >feels awesome as frick
      it really doesn't

      >I really can't get these to work my chest half as much as rto pushups do
      that's because dips barely work the pecs

      >pushing with ur arms bend far far away
      your pecs don't get built from locking out your elbows, they get built when they get stretched by your arms going behind your body
      my shoulder mobility is nowhere near good enough to do the shit in vid related https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fa7Qp05Gk9A , but trust me when i say that it'll build your pecs like nothing else if your shoulders are mobile enough

      muscles also tear from being stretched

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >gentle on the shoulders

    They aren't, especially if you dive deep. I still do them but let's be honest here

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      NTA but aren't they softer than regular dips because of more mobility in the rings etc.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Only if the bars are really wide. Anything above the rings should be done with caution because of the instability. Be reckless and you can frick your shit up for good

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is this better when you tuck your knees in and have a more horizontal torso?

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This thread created every day is just one DYEL who thinks if all he does is ring dips somehow people will care about his 140 lbs physique.
    Newsflash, nobody cares bro, do your favorite exercise, its not magic.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I've posted this thread like 3 times over the last few months, there are at least 5-6 people posting ring dip threads IIRC

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    beyond 90 degrees is snap city for most people, it's not the exercise, it's our awful lifestyles and specifically talking about lifters, the bench press destroys your shoulder mobility, so if you've developed a decent bench, you will very likely not be able to do this type of exercise.

    You have to gently train mobility in this movement, when you put shear forces on the tissues of the joint and then extend, you are putting your tissues under the maximum strain possible, there is no mechanical movement that puts more strain on an object than to twist it and then pull it apart, which is what you're doing with this exercise, if the tissue is too stiff it will rip.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    unrelated, what do you guys do to hit all 3 heads of the triceps?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      any tricep exercise in which the upper arm is either not moving or barely moving is gonna hit the long head of the triceps
      all elbow extension hits both the lateral and medial heads of the triceps nearly equally no matter what you do
      all the 3 heads of the triceps hard are therefore hit hard with any tricep exercise that has your elbow and shoulder joints as static as possible

      regular tricep pushdowns
      overhead tricep extensions
      either will be fine, shoulder flexion(rotating your upper arm forward and up) during a rep deloads the long head of the triceps and this happens with every pushing exercise there is(unless you are abusing form ofc)

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        alright so bear with me because I'm slow and moronic.
        would progressive overloading on skullcrushers and overhead extensions be enough for a complete tricep workout?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I suppose but rip your triceps tendons

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >would progressive overloading on skullcrushers and overhead extensions be enough for a complete tricep workout?
          no u will frick up ur shoulders and elbows doing that, and u won't get any trike because tendons will give up first

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >would progressive overloading on skullcrushers and overhead extensions be enough for a complete tricep workout?
          progressively overloading on just one of those would already be more than enough specially if you're also doing pushing exercises on the side

          but you could do both if you prefer

          >regular tricep pushdowns
          >overhead tricep extensions
          still long head

          one db overhead and do really high hh to the side - that's lateral head, nothing else does that

          >still long head
          whole triceps are worked nearly equally in those two exercises actually

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >whole triceps are worked nearly equally in those two exercises actually
            nope

            he didn't find it

            >regular tricep pushdowns
            >overhead tricep extensions
            still long head

            one db overhead and do really high hh to the side - that's lateral head, nothing else does that

            >one db overhead and do really high hh to the side - that's lateral head, nothing else does that
            though because he's an moron or because he's not allowed to - it's youtube

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              to clarify - if u want only lateral head do this:

              >regular tricep pushdowns
              >overhead tricep extensions
              still long head

              one db overhead and do really high hh to the side - that's lateral head, nothing else does that

              >one db overhead and do really high hh to the side - that's lateral head, nothing else does that
              and i see no reason to do anything else because u've already worked long head elswhere (most probably sum moronic pressing) - nobody needs more anterir delt and nobody needs more long head of trike, right?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >nope
              then why did the EMG readings in that video show that normal ass tricep pushdowns with full ROM have long/medial/lateral head innervation/activity with identical ratios?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                signal from lateral is garbage, when it gets heavy at the end of set it's all long - doesn't matter anyways, u're after lateral head only because long head is worked regardless somewhere else

                and it's the head that is actually visible from the front and from the side, the horseshoe head 😀

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah. You'll feel it all up and down your tris if you do it right. I do LTE's because it's just a skullcrusher but heavier. I love going through variants of lifts but I just don't see how you could need anything else for triceps for any reason.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >regular tricep pushdowns
        >overhead tricep extensions
        still long head

        one db overhead and do really high hh to the side - that's lateral head, nothing else does that

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I respond with no gym I've ever been to has rings

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >How do you respond to this information?
    i weigh more than 60 kg

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >tfw weighed 40lbs 4x10 below 90 deg dips 3 times a week without any issues at all

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      u r slowly sowing through rotator cuff tendons - keep at it u'll get there eventually

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >le you will eventually get injured, just you wait!!
        you'll be waiting until someone is on his deathbed dying of old age, and when he eventually passes over at the ripe age of 96 you'll claim that it was the dips that did him in kek
        always saying shit like "you'll get injured in 3 months bro" when the guy you're talking to has been doing em for damn near 10 years. just shut up at that point man

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >How do you respond to this information?
    i go from the bottom of a dip into a tuck, then a forward tuck and carefully place myself in the german hang position and do the reverse so I strengthen and stretch every part of my shoulder as well as give myself the best shoulder and pec stretch known to man. adding more weight to make ring dips more difficult goes against the purpose of the movement, it's to prepare your shoulders for more movements that increase your mobility and strengthen the shoulders. biceps get absolutely blasted doing stability work when you do gymnastic movements slowly, abs get worked keeping your body stable through it. this might look like a ticket to snap city but pulling your arms back like this is the kind of stretch a PT or massage therapist does to open up pecs & shoulders. You aren't just dropping your entire weight on your shoulders because your rear delts and lats should be activated and pulling against gravity.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      do u know single gymnast without shoulder injury at some point?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        football players do barbell squats, football players get knee injuries therefore no one should do barbell squats

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >no one should do barbell squats
          wrong adress botto - no one should do barbell

          i don't even have to add squat to it to make it true
          >but if ur sport is barbell?
          pick different sport or prepare ur anus for injuries

          >le you will eventually get injured, just you wait!!
          you'll be waiting until someone is on his deathbed dying of old age, and when he eventually passes over at the ripe age of 96 you'll claim that it was the dips that did him in kek
          always saying shit like "you'll get injured in 3 months bro" when the guy you're talking to has been doing em for damn near 10 years. just shut up at that point man

          no, i find a way to get the muscle i want without any pain or injury risk - so far i'm VERY successful and u are very helpful in my quest, i'm actually running out of recovery time trying out new things xD

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >no, i find a way to get the muscle i want without any pain or injury risk
            guess you managed to do it except you forgot the building muscle part lol
            i already did this myself - took a couple years but now i can coast along and endlessly progress with my current program and build muscle instead of playing flappy bird with light dumbbells and funky isometrics that do nothing. remember the rule - no stretch means no growth!

            u thought that was serious? u're adorable - this alter ego of yours is of no use to me - go away

            whether it was serious or not is irrelevant to me, the point is that you were incapable of countering any of my points so you just called me a roidgay to deflect instead. should have just ignored me but noo, just haveta keep replyin!

            spare me

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Rings are amazing, they've done so much for my body strength, I can do pull ups and dips out the ass on static equipment. Will also give you aesthetic as frick shoulders and chest imo. They are very hard though, you will probably struggle a lot for the first few months, with stabalising etc, just keep at it.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine getting filtered by the best variation of the best upper body exercise, the Ring Dip

    Imagine then posting dozens of cope posts trying to justify getting filtered

    Imagine never posting body alongside any of those posts

    Imagine being a diplet ESL

    Imagine

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