Same amount of attention, but probably from hotter girls.
Bruh you're the one coping, those memes are mostly made by guys who get mires from both girls and other guys who are in on the joke and laughing at themselves. It's not as much of a high stakes thing for some people as it is for you apparently.
Same amount of attention, but probably from hotter girls.
Bruh you're the one coping, those memes are mostly made by guys who get mires from both girls and other guys who are in on the joke and laughing at themselves. It's not as much of a high stakes thing for some people as it is for you apparently.
i get mires from both genders
It's very easy to stand out when 70% of the populations is overweight and the other 25% are dyels.
Also i'm 6'4 so I stand out even more. If only I was better at talking to women.
Just be yourself bro. >Hello, I'm 6'4 >You can notice that I'm in better shape than 95% of the population >But enough about me, do you know about the garden gnomes?
agreed, I notice way more women looking at me now, to the point that it has looped all they way around and I think they're judging me for trying too hard
but that's on me not them, they're just mirin
Two girls is an interesting dynamic because you can play them off each other. Push and pull by focusing attention on one and kinda ignore the other and then randomly switch, repeat throughout the night and eventually they're both competing to end up on your dick
You know, you're not wrong in presuming that, but the number of dumb / retarded / mentally ill GL guys that I've seen sl*thate / l*kism is fucking gigantic. It's a definite phenomenon.
https://i.imgur.com/kxIGhcJ.jpg
>dude, random women approach me and want to jump on my dick all the time >no i don't consider myself an attractive person at all
i swear to God, attractive men don't have mirrors
even David Gandy doesn't consider himself to be that attractive, says he thinks his nose is too big
>shes ok. wats you're point?
he's one of the 50 most attractive men in the world (out of 3.5 billion) and his wife is just "ok"
is just like Olivier Giroud and his wife. there's a lot of real-life gigachads marrying 5s and 6s
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a lot of guys like david gandy are borderline asexual and getting a hot "wife" just isnt a concern for them
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>a lot of guys like david gandy are borderline asexual
where do you get that from
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Once you've lost your virginity and sexed around you realize that there are things that matter more than min-maxing looks
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obviously but if you're a world-famous footballer with model-tier looks and a millionaire bank account you can definitely a girl who's 1. a good christian girl and 2. attractive
Every time a woman has an abortion, the baby's soul gets trapped inside of her and migrates to her knees.
This woman has had TWO (2) abortions at a minimum. Look at these tortured souls wailing from inside her knees. If the knee on the left is to be believed, one of those abortions might have been twins. Absolutely devilish.
>dude, random women approach me and want to jump on my dick all the time >no i don't consider myself an attractive person at all
i swear to God, attractive men don't have mirrors
even David Gandy doesn't consider himself to be that attractive, says he thinks his nose is too big
I am handsome and have fucked up many encounters.
Basically only slept with the ones that came onto me hard, usually the less prettier ones.
I don't have problem talking to women or reading body language, I am just too cowardly to risk being rejected, and I also have an aversion to just straight up manipulating people or not being myself, which picking up girls often involve. Which is why I always ended up with the weirdos because I'd rather have a conversation than just doing a performance play to make womanbrain.exe tick the boxes.
i understand you and i am in a similar situation, but the thing is that you KNOW you're attractive and acknowledge that your lack of success with women is on your part. Meanwhile there's a ton of dudes who have access to ungodly amounts of pussy, who get approached by random women in bars and groped by middle aged cougars at the supermarket and when you talk to them they're like "i don't get it, i'm not even that good looking" or when you ask them for tips on how to deal with women they just go with "idk dude just talk to them"
More from women my age +- (middle aged). A few more from the younger (20s) ones. Missus got what she asked for years back (gone from fat to in good shape) and now looks slightly twitchy if I mention another woman.
I also think I know who the local closeted gay guys are. Sorry lads...
What changed it was being fit, and getting help from a tailor to pick out the right style of clothes and have them properly fitted. My tailor fixes everything (pants, shirts, jackets) before I wear them in public now because otherwise they make me look like shit. That's when I started getting more attention from women and twinks, and started getting my dick sucked in club bathrooms regularly.
I'm telling you guys, get your clothes fitted and it'll help a lot.
Not him but tailoring is not expensive. Last time I went to the tailor it was like $10-20 per piece of clothing. It's probably more now due to inflation but it's hardly a rich person thing. Buying cheap clothes and getting them tailored will make them look twice as expensive as name brand for half the cost.
Having them take my measurements to keep on file was $50, but after that to alter pants and shirts is $10/per, $15 for jackets.
After the upfront cost of buying high quality clothes (which I did over several months coupled with getting them as gifts from friends and family) the tailoring isn't very much, even less when spread out over the course of a year. It took time to get it all together into a unified aesthetic, but it was well worth the time and money.
Yeah this doesn't happen in bongland. You have to get clothes made to measure if you want them fitted like that.
Having them take my measurements to keep on file was $50, but after that to alter pants and shirts is $10/per, $15 for jackets.
After the upfront cost of buying high quality clothes (which I did over several months coupled with getting them as gifts from friends and family) the tailoring isn't very much, even less when spread out over the course of a year. It took time to get it all together into a unified aesthetic, but it was well worth the time and money.
My fitness and my popularity with girls have gone up and down with seemingly no relation to each other. I'm currently at my biggest and strongest ever but I'm getting less attention now than I did when I first started lifting. But I still get way more than before lifting. So I have no idea but I don't think it's a big factor.
I started getting less tbh. But lifting only makes autism worse so maybe I'm just not noticing anything? I hope that's the case. But I haven't had sex since before I started lifting three years ago.
I started 3 months ago and with my newbie gains nothing has really changed. But knowing I'm stronger and bigger than before has made me more confident. If a girl is rude to me, I previously would have felt upset. Now I smile and think to myself I am better than you. It's like entering a higher tax bracket
Before I started going to the gym I already did fine with women. And I found out after going to the gym it Never really made much of a difference for me. It was a bit of a red pill for me. Or black pill? I’m not sure how the pills work.
I started getting more attention, but the girls were awful.
The more attractive you get, the worse people you attract. I never understood how psychotic girls could be until I became hot enough to attract the worst of them.
No it hasn’t made any difference. I’m 20, 5’7, around 170lbs and losing weight. I’d say I’m 4/10 face? I don’t know how to reach out or meet new people. Dating apps don’t really work for me either. What do I do?
there was some random test I found on the internet which showed random mugshots and I was asked to select the ones which I thought were criminals. iirc I guessed 8/10 correctly lol. I would have picked u as a criminal tbh.
When I got IST in college, I went from virgin who never got a complement, to having girls walk up to me and start talking to me out of the blue and calling me cute. Sometimes even in front of friends I was talking to.
If anything they're more stand-offish. I even caught one girl glaring at me through the mirror while I was doing some shoulder shit. I don't grunt, scream, yelp or anything but I am 200lbs 18~% with almost a 2:1 shoulder:waist ratio, so I'm bigger than most of the people at that gym. Not bragging I've just been lifting consistently for a long time and I think that's why. Like I think they don't like it because I "try too hard" which gives them the ick and I also go to failure so my face looks like a tomato during sets.
Teenagers compliment all the time though. I prefer those mires though because I like seeing guys taking up lifting early without their idiot dad forcing them to with some meme shit he came up with. Boomers all hate me except this cool fat guy who lifts with SBD sleeves.
I’m 26 and only teenage girls show interest in me
I try to converse with girls around my age and I get one word responses, yet routinely get younger girls smiling at me and even initiating conversation
The women your age know you are desirable to hotter, younger girls, so they act like bitches hoping you'll pick bitchy attitude over adoration from the younger chicks.
They also chased chads that they couldn't get to commit, so they either know you'll leave them when you find out your worth or wonder why you'd be insecure enough to not go for the prize that is younger women.
Also: if you pick a masculine bitch over a feminine bubbly girl, you are essentially picking the submissive role.
>I try to converse with girls around my age and I get one word responses, yet routinely get younger girls smiling at me and even initiating conversation
I'm not a huge believer in game/PUA stuff but sometimes it does check out
Girls fear me, the ones brave or stupid enough to try talk to me realise how autistic I am from a lifetime of never having associated with them
If I was a woman it'd be hot girl syndrome, but instead I'm a dude turned schizoid from a lack of meaningful interactions or any semblance of validation to the point I now don't trust any that might actually come my way. But lifting gave me something to do at least
i got the most female attention when i was a skinny scene kid in college with skinny jeans / weird handmade clothes and dyed red hair
dudes thought i was gay but girls were buzzing around me like flies
i think most of it is just being lean, having clothes that fit your frame and not looking like every other boring cunt
I was 5'10 and 230 lbs in high school and there were probably 4-5 girls in total, none of them bad looking, that liked me
am now 175 and a little taller, but more muscular and a lot stronger and on three seperate occasions other guys have said told me I have a gigachad jawline
I've gotten maybe 2-3 mires at all over a span of a year
not that I want them so bad, but it's an odd occurence
I've suspected that this is the case as well because aside from the gym and ocassional lunch with my parents, I don't go to many places outside my house
I'm curious what the guys ITT look like. I feel like I'm already at a disadvantage due to height (170cm) and slight aging. I don't know if breaking out of skinnyfat will actually do anything for me female wise.
>I don't know if breaking out of skinnyfat will actually do anything for me female wise
Cut. Now.
suggests, at least work on cardio and throw in some bodyweight work (if not lifting proper). A little remedial on posture, improving the way you move and removing the fat from your face does wonders. Loads of women love a visible set of cheekbones, even if you are balding like me (seriously).
I'm getting back into lifting on Sunday. I bought a home gym set up and the last of the cable system will be coming tomorrow. I'm essentially hitting the rest button on my weights and starting light but steady. I'll also be getting back into cardio (alternating jogging with HIIT).
I'm just concerned that a cut is too premature right now since there would be no muscle to balance out my appearance and I'd wind up skelly.
>I'm just concerned that a cut is too premature right now since there would be no muscle to balance out my appearance and I'd wind up skelly.
do you have a belly? i'm 5'8 and 145 and just started a cut after losing basically a whole year of training undecided between cutting and bulking and my belly swayed me into cutting because i didn't want it to get any bigger.
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I'm getting back into lifting on Sunday. I bought a home gym set up and the last of the cable system will be coming tomorrow. I'm essentially hitting the rest button on my weights and starting light but steady. I'll also be getting back into cardio (alternating jogging with HIIT).
I'm just concerned that a cut is too premature right now since there would be no muscle to balance out my appearance and I'd wind up skelly.
also a cut takes 4-8 weeks a bulk takes 3-9 months
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>do you have a belly?
Not really, but I'm definitely too soft.
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also a cut takes 4-8 weeks a bulk takes 3-9 months
Fair point. If calculated correctly, I would be at 10% body fat in ~10 weeks.
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eh you look fine, assuming you're not sucking your stomach in. i guess you can do whatever you want. the year's just started after all
>be me >won't rate myself but I'm not ugly and never struggled meeting women >married for 11 years, 4 kids, etc. >got lazy and weak, put on weight, got fed up with it and fixed it >lost the weight, started going back to the gym, got noticeably IST (I have always built muscle pretty easily, even now in my 30s it's not been a struggle) >suddenly start getting looks from women everywhere I go >could be imagining it, but women every smile at me a lot more and are a lot more friendly >notice several women at the grocery store eyeing me up and then playing with their hair >the clerk at a pharmacy flirts with me and touches my hand inappropriately when handing me something >day trip to the beach with a couple who are friends of ours with kids the same age this past summer >my wife and the husband of the other couple are watching the kids play in the surf >the wife of the other couple is sitting in a beach chair next to me, she only ever knew me when I was out of shape up to this point >awkwardly fumbles over complimenting how I look now >accidentally refers to me as sexy >awkwardly deflect her comments >every time we get together since then she has complimented my arms and chest, always when our spouses aren't around >I'm not some cheater dickhead so I don't indulge it and always change topics
It's been a weird ride the past couple of years, but it's true that if you're fat and out of shape you may as well be completely invisible to women.
> it's true that if you're fat and out of shape you may as well be completely invisible to women. >tfw young, in shape and handsome >completely invisible to women under 50
ah don't I just love being a manlet
Oh...well yeah I'm 6'2 so there's that. Sorry bro. I've got a friend who is 5'6 and has a real complex around it. Doesn't help that he's bald to boot, but at least had has pretty good head shape to go Mr. Clean mode. He's in shape, he isn't ugly, he's a bit of a weirdo personality wise but man I've observed his struggles with women, really feel bad for him because he's a good guy overall.
ehh, no need to feel bad. I can get a gf just fine if I actually go out and talk to women, I just envy the attention that tall dudes command, the legwork when picking up girls is cut in half
At least there's that. Like I said, my friend who is 5'6 really lets it get to him, I think it really destroys his confidence and women that he would have still had a chance with otherwise see this weakness and run like the wind. It does make things more difficult for him by far. It's like the checklist for me for at least not getting rejected at first glance is "don't be fat". The checklist for him is much longer, he's already got two strikes against him being bald and short.
never got that much attention from girls anyway but it peaked around 18-22 and i was working out 3-4 times a week. then the chink virus happened and i stopped going for a while, now im back again but women arent really interested. i pretty much gave up on the idea of casual sex, i just work out for health and to get back to the point of looking decent
>Start lifting in highschool >Girls overtly mire me, compliment my figure and try to steal me from my gf >10 years later, stay in shape the whole time >People are friendly and treat me like I'm attractive, and getting girls is no issue, but full on mires have become a rarity >I miss the mires more than I like the "subtle" female attention I get from my peers
This isn't about being fit (though I am fit), but I am curious if other anons from my area have experienced this phenomenon.
I live in NYC metro area and while I will occasionally get approached by women, I otherwise feel virtually invisible to them. Whenever I leave the area to somewhere else, (out of the state, out of the country, etc.) the difference in female attention I receive is so night and day that it is obscene. I'm talking girls just full-on flirting with me, zero shame, touching me, hugging me, female bartenders not charging me for drinks, stares, smiles, giggles, the works. I've talked to other male friends with similar experiences.
My theory is that this area is such a hyper competitive shithole with so much money running through it that chicks over here all get massively inflated egos, surrounded by finance and trust fund dickheads who will absolutely shower them with cash for attention. Hardcore hoeflation, it's dire out here.
What do you wear everyday anon? Have you tried wearing a dress shirt and trying to look more like these finance guys? Maybe you just don't appear to be from the same gentry because of your body, facial and head hair and clothes. (that 'gentry' being young guys making more or less a 100k)
I make $135k/yr working in fintech for a conservative company and I dress more nicely than virtually all of my co-workers. Even in more casual settings, the experience is the same.
your theory is on the money, the competition is brutal there in NYC. It may have the best looking girls but it also has the best looking guys, many of whom are loaded
its too easy for 7's to get wined and dined by finance bros and get addicted to that, it raises their expectations up to unrealistic standards
because the fact is there are only so many rich men and many women fighting over them
i make 170k and i aint shit over there, it can be a blow to your ego knowing the girl youre taking out on a date probably got wined and dined by some finance bro at 500k+ showing her things you can never afford
I expect this behavior in Manhattan, of course, but feel this phenomenon extends to the whole metro area and surrounding areas like NJ and CT, simple due to the all consuming radius the city has on the surrounding area.
>around Manhattan (or anywhere in the general area I suppose), finance bros are native. they're expected. a standard part of the milieu.
*nobody* is native in NYC. It's a world city. I wouldn't even say I style myself as a finance bro, I mentioned them moreso out of a comparison to the wide variety of loaded, young men competing for female attention in this area.
>or maybe NYC is just a shithole
that we can certainly agree on
>*nobody* is native in NYC
honestly, I feel like this is mistaken. there might be millions of foreigners of every stripe, but there are still your generic types that are the locals in the area.
5'11 260lbs. Mostly fat with broad shoulders.
Down from 310lbs last year.
I barely leave the house or socialize at all, but women have definitely been treating me like an actual person recently. It's hard to explain but I'm not completely ignored like I was when I was fat. No explicit mires like the OP though.
yes
Yeah, I hear them constantly giggling at me.
Now I hate women, I lift for the day when those giggles turn to gasps and screams
Way more attention. Those comics people make about getting more attention from guys and not girls is cope
Same amount of attention, but probably from hotter girls.
Bruh you're the one coping, those memes are mostly made by guys who get mires from both girls and other guys who are in on the joke and laughing at themselves. It's not as much of a high stakes thing for some people as it is for you apparently.
this, but also this
i get mires from both genders
It's very easy to stand out when 70% of the populations is overweight and the other 25% are dyels.
Also i'm 6'4 so I stand out even more. If only I was better at talking to women.
Just be yourself bro.
>Hello, I'm 6'4
>You can notice that I'm in better shape than 95% of the population
>But enough about me, do you know about the garden gnomes?
agreed, I notice way more women looking at me now, to the point that it has looped all they way around and I think they're judging me for trying too hard
but that's on me not them, they're just mirin
How did you get fit? like visibly muscular or just lost weight?
t. trying to figure out how ugly I am
More.
Different kinds of attention, a man will compliment you. Women will glance and smile.
Girls always approach me at the bar, usually a shy one and a slutty one and the slutty one always claims the shy one thinks I'm hot.
how many times do the same two girls have to hit on you before you ask one out?
Two girls is an interesting dynamic because you can play them off each other. Push and pull by focusing attention on one and kinda ignore the other and then randomly switch, repeat throughout the night and eventually they're both competing to end up on your dick
I get no attention
I am not fit
Nothing will ever be the same
Same attention from girls, more attention from fags. That said, girls react more positively now when I approach them.
We have this fucking thread every goddamn day.
It’s some of the best motivation out there
Same amount of attention from girls.
A lot more dudes comment on my physique now.
Also, the girls that do give me attention often times mention my physique, but only after getting to know each other.
Damn did this guy post face / body? What board is this screenshot from?
Nevermind, found it.
It's from LULZ of all places.
It's truly fucking over
https://desuarchive.org/LULZ/thread/59045147/#59046505
If it was LULZ it is a work of fiction lmao
100% fake and gay
You know, you're not wrong in presuming that, but the number of dumb / retarded / mentally ill GL guys that I've seen sl*thate / l*kism is fucking gigantic. It's a definite phenomenon.
Have you seen Gandy's wife lmao
>Have you seen Gandy's wife lmao
shes ok. wats you're point?
>shes ok. wats you're point?
he's one of the 50 most attractive men in the world (out of 3.5 billion) and his wife is just "ok"
is just like Olivier Giroud and his wife. there's a lot of real-life gigachads marrying 5s and 6s
a lot of guys like david gandy are borderline asexual and getting a hot "wife" just isnt a concern for them
>a lot of guys like david gandy are borderline asexual
where do you get that from
Once you've lost your virginity and sexed around you realize that there are things that matter more than min-maxing looks
obviously but if you're a world-famous footballer with model-tier looks and a millionaire bank account you can definitely a girl who's 1. a good christian girl and 2. attractive
Gandy is white
winning by default
this is your brain on lookism lol
there's a reason why the girl is turning away frm the pajeet and towards gandy
>Poorly fitted suit
>untucked shirt
Fucking yikes
the cope is strong with these
dude on the left is majestic and gets more pussy than those haters combined, which is great karma
>dude on the left is majestic
he's a pajeet. his skin colour, lips hair gve him an automatic -0.5. he's a 9.5, Gandy's a 10
Every time a woman has an abortion, the baby's soul gets trapped inside of her and migrates to her knees.
This woman has had TWO (2) abortions at a minimum. Look at these tortured souls wailing from inside her knees. If the knee on the left is to be believed, one of those abortions might have been twins. Absolutely devilish.
>but the number of dumb / retarded / mentally ill GL guys that I've seen sl*thate / l*kism is fucking gigantic
i legit can't understand this sentence
>SHE WAS OF REPRODUCTIVE AGE YOU SICK FUCK
>dude, random women approach me and want to jump on my dick all the time
>no i don't consider myself an attractive person at all
i swear to God, attractive men don't have mirrors
even David Gandy doesn't consider himself to be that attractive, says he thinks his nose is too big
I am handsome and have fucked up many encounters.
Basically only slept with the ones that came onto me hard, usually the less prettier ones.
I don't have problem talking to women or reading body language, I am just too cowardly to risk being rejected, and I also have an aversion to just straight up manipulating people or not being myself, which picking up girls often involve. Which is why I always ended up with the weirdos because I'd rather have a conversation than just doing a performance play to make womanbrain.exe tick the boxes.
i understand you and i am in a similar situation, but the thing is that you KNOW you're attractive and acknowledge that your lack of success with women is on your part. Meanwhile there's a ton of dudes who have access to ungodly amounts of pussy, who get approached by random women in bars and groped by middle aged cougars at the supermarket and when you talk to them they're like "i don't get it, i'm not even that good looking" or when you ask them for tips on how to deal with women they just go with "idk dude just talk to them"
It's an act.
To pretend you're ugly when you're attractive is endearing. To boast about being attractive, even if true, is ugly.
it's almost always fake modesty.
More from women my age +- (middle aged). A few more from the younger (20s) ones. Missus got what she asked for years back (gone from fat to in good shape) and now looks slightly twitchy if I mention another woman.
I also think I know who the local closeted gay guys are. Sorry lads...
From just getting fit? No.
What changed it was being fit, and getting help from a tailor to pick out the right style of clothes and have them properly fitted. My tailor fixes everything (pants, shirts, jackets) before I wear them in public now because otherwise they make me look like shit. That's when I started getting more attention from women and twinks, and started getting my dick sucked in club bathrooms regularly.
I'm telling you guys, get your clothes fitted and it'll help a lot.
How much money do you have that you can afford to regularly get your clothes tailored wtf?
Not him but tailoring is not expensive. Last time I went to the tailor it was like $10-20 per piece of clothing. It's probably more now due to inflation but it's hardly a rich person thing. Buying cheap clothes and getting them tailored will make them look twice as expensive as name brand for half the cost.
Yeah this doesn't happen in bongland. You have to get clothes made to measure if you want them fitted like that.
Tailors won't alter clothes you already own? That's some snobby bullshit
Let me guess, you live on a council estate?
Do you? The only tailor with so little self respect that he'll take in your George jacket probably runs it out of social housing.
Having them take my measurements to keep on file was $50, but after that to alter pants and shirts is $10/per, $15 for jackets.
After the upfront cost of buying high quality clothes (which I did over several months coupled with getting them as gifts from friends and family) the tailoring isn't very much, even less when spread out over the course of a year. It took time to get it all together into a unified aesthetic, but it was well worth the time and money.
how retarded lookin is your body that you need a tailor for every piece of clothing
My fitness and my popularity with girls have gone up and down with seemingly no relation to each other. I'm currently at my biggest and strongest ever but I'm getting less attention now than I did when I first started lifting. But I still get way more than before lifting. So I have no idea but I don't think it's a big factor.
The leanpill did it, I’ve heard “you’re so handsome” more times in the last 6 months than I would have ever imagined
how lean vs before?
I was like slightly below 18-19% for a long time, then I went all in on fasting/OMAD and dropped to like 12-13% last summer
i dont know, i started paying less attention to them
I get more attention but I also hate getting attention. I stay out of public whenever possible and wish I were invisible
i definitely notice girls looking at me more and have gotten a few indirect mires but i’m still autistic as shit so it doesn’t fucking matter
I started getting less tbh. But lifting only makes autism worse so maybe I'm just not noticing anything? I hope that's the case. But I haven't had sex since before I started lifting three years ago.
I started 3 months ago and with my newbie gains nothing has really changed. But knowing I'm stronger and bigger than before has made me more confident. If a girl is rude to me, I previously would have felt upset. Now I smile and think to myself I am better than you. It's like entering a higher tax bracket
Before I started going to the gym I already did fine with women. And I found out after going to the gym it Never really made much of a difference for me. It was a bit of a red pill for me. Or black pill? I’m not sure how the pills work.
>t. Good facial aesthetics
I started getting more attention, but the girls were awful.
The more attractive you get, the worse people you attract. I never understood how psychotic girls could be until I became hot enough to attract the worst of them.
>all my life
>pic related
>lift for 10 yrs
>still pic related
No it hasn’t made any difference. I’m 20, 5’7, around 170lbs and losing weight. I’d say I’m 4/10 face? I don’t know how to reach out or meet new people. Dating apps don’t really work for me either. What do I do?
youre kinda scary looking dude. look like a criminal kinda.
How? People say I come across as robotic in my mannerisms and I seem emotionless sometimes.
there was some random test I found on the internet which showed random mugshots and I was asked to select the ones which I thought were criminals. iirc I guessed 8/10 correctly lol. I would have picked u as a criminal tbh.
Maybe I should thugmaxx
def
fix that awful hair and you'd go from a 4/70 to a 7.5
bro this is like the 5th time Ive seen you post your face here. You need to go outside
I do when I have the opportunity to, I just don’t have many
>I’d say I’m 4/10 face?
Face is fine, but your haircut kinda sucks
That's not what we meant when we told you to get a better haircut a month ago.
When I got IST in college, I went from virgin who never got a complement, to having girls walk up to me and start talking to me out of the blue and calling me cute. Sometimes even in front of friends I was talking to.
If anything they're more stand-offish. I even caught one girl glaring at me through the mirror while I was doing some shoulder shit. I don't grunt, scream, yelp or anything but I am 200lbs 18~% with almost a 2:1 shoulder:waist ratio, so I'm bigger than most of the people at that gym. Not bragging I've just been lifting consistently for a long time and I think that's why. Like I think they don't like it because I "try too hard" which gives them the ick and I also go to failure so my face looks like a tomato during sets.
Teenagers compliment all the time though. I prefer those mires though because I like seeing guys taking up lifting early without their idiot dad forcing them to with some meme shit he came up with. Boomers all hate me except this cool fat guy who lifts with SBD sleeves.
Women are mostly cowards, they won’t approach out of the blue, bros will come up and compliment
Do you pay more attention to fit and attractive women, or average ones? What the fuck is it with IST and retarded questions?
Yes. And, luckily, ugly women pay me less attention.
>Verification not required.
The other day a girl literally sneaked a photo of me while I was doing a lunge stretch in my warmup. Barely caught it out the corner of my eye.
I have no idea if it was for good or bad reasons. Don't particularly care either.
No
only fatties so it doesn't count
Relatively close to this is the best I've ever gotten after all these years of gains. I have a long way to go yet.
I’m 26 and only teenage girls show interest in me
I try to converse with girls around my age and I get one word responses, yet routinely get younger girls smiling at me and even initiating conversation
do you have any idea how lucky you are
The women your age know you are desirable to hotter, younger girls, so they act like bitches hoping you'll pick bitchy attitude over adoration from the younger chicks.
They also chased chads that they couldn't get to commit, so they either know you'll leave them when you find out your worth or wonder why you'd be insecure enough to not go for the prize that is younger women.
Also: if you pick a masculine bitch over a feminine bubbly girl, you are essentially picking the submissive role.
>I try to converse with girls around my age and I get one word responses, yet routinely get younger girls smiling at me and even initiating conversation
I'm not a huge believer in game/PUA stuff but sometimes it does check out
>im not a huge believer in game/PUA
>saves screenshots of PUA game bullshit
lol loser
if you only read people you agree 100% with, then you've probably never finished a book
is that Heartiste? does anyone have an archive of his work?
that's what's been happening to me last few months, it's good and weird, hopefully I don't end up in jail
Same
25 and get attention from 16-20 yo…
Ngl sometimes it’s a bit weird…
Not even tall, just a bit muscular and a good face + blue eyes and dark hair
My next door neighbor was full on infatuated with me for two years despite barely talking to me
then I started talking to her and it ended horribly.
I'm not sure if it's just that and I'm but results are results
When im fat big no. But now everywhere i go always get glance from them cos i know im handsome 9/10 and always stand out.
I don't even pay attention to girls.
Girls fear me, the ones brave or stupid enough to try talk to me realise how autistic I am from a lifetime of never having associated with them
If I was a woman it'd be hot girl syndrome, but instead I'm a dude turned schizoid from a lack of meaningful interactions or any semblance of validation to the point I now don't trust any that might actually come my way. But lifting gave me something to do at least
I have noticed women touching me more especially on my arms and shoulders when the situation doesn't really require them to make any physical contact.
i got the most female attention when i was a skinny scene kid in college with skinny jeans / weird handmade clothes and dyed red hair
dudes thought i was gay but girls were buzzing around me like flies
i think most of it is just being lean, having clothes that fit your frame and not looking like every other boring cunt
I was 5'10 and 230 lbs in high school and there were probably 4-5 girls in total, none of them bad looking, that liked me
am now 175 and a little taller, but more muscular and a lot stronger and on three seperate occasions other guys have said told me I have a gigachad jawline
I've gotten maybe 2-3 mires at all over a span of a year
not that I want them so bad, but it's an odd occurence
>I've gotten maybe 2-3 mires at all over a span of a year
do you go out of the house a lot or nah?
I've suspected that this is the case as well because aside from the gym and ocassional lunch with my parents, I don't go to many places outside my house
I'm curious what the guys ITT look like. I feel like I'm already at a disadvantage due to height (170cm) and slight aging. I don't know if breaking out of skinnyfat will actually do anything for me female wise.
>I don't know if breaking out of skinnyfat will actually do anything for me female wise
Cut. Now.
I have no muscle (
)
If you don't cut as
suggests, at least work on cardio and throw in some bodyweight work (if not lifting proper). A little remedial on posture, improving the way you move and removing the fat from your face does wonders. Loads of women love a visible set of cheekbones, even if you are balding like me (seriously).
I'm getting back into lifting on Sunday. I bought a home gym set up and the last of the cable system will be coming tomorrow. I'm essentially hitting the rest button on my weights and starting light but steady. I'll also be getting back into cardio (alternating jogging with HIIT).
I'm just concerned that a cut is too premature right now since there would be no muscle to balance out my appearance and I'd wind up skelly.
>I'm just concerned that a cut is too premature right now since there would be no muscle to balance out my appearance and I'd wind up skelly.
do you have a belly? i'm 5'8 and 145 and just started a cut after losing basically a whole year of training undecided between cutting and bulking and my belly swayed me into cutting because i didn't want it to get any bigger.
also a cut takes 4-8 weeks a bulk takes 3-9 months
>do you have a belly?
Not really, but I'm definitely too soft.
Fair point. If calculated correctly, I would be at 10% body fat in ~10 weeks.
eh you look fine, assuming you're not sucking your stomach in. i guess you can do whatever you want. the year's just started after all
>be me
>won't rate myself but I'm not ugly and never struggled meeting women
>married for 11 years, 4 kids, etc.
>got lazy and weak, put on weight, got fed up with it and fixed it
>lost the weight, started going back to the gym, got noticeably IST (I have always built muscle pretty easily, even now in my 30s it's not been a struggle)
>suddenly start getting looks from women everywhere I go
>could be imagining it, but women every smile at me a lot more and are a lot more friendly
>notice several women at the grocery store eyeing me up and then playing with their hair
>the clerk at a pharmacy flirts with me and touches my hand inappropriately when handing me something
>day trip to the beach with a couple who are friends of ours with kids the same age this past summer
>my wife and the husband of the other couple are watching the kids play in the surf
>the wife of the other couple is sitting in a beach chair next to me, she only ever knew me when I was out of shape up to this point
>awkwardly fumbles over complimenting how I look now
>accidentally refers to me as sexy
>awkwardly deflect her comments
>every time we get together since then she has complimented my arms and chest, always when our spouses aren't around
>I'm not some cheater dickhead so I don't indulge it and always change topics
It's been a weird ride the past couple of years, but it's true that if you're fat and out of shape you may as well be completely invisible to women.
> it's true that if you're fat and out of shape you may as well be completely invisible to women.
>tfw young, in shape and handsome
>completely invisible to women under 50
ah don't I just love being a manlet
Oh...well yeah I'm 6'2 so there's that. Sorry bro. I've got a friend who is 5'6 and has a real complex around it. Doesn't help that he's bald to boot, but at least had has pretty good head shape to go Mr. Clean mode. He's in shape, he isn't ugly, he's a bit of a weirdo personality wise but man I've observed his struggles with women, really feel bad for him because he's a good guy overall.
ehh, no need to feel bad. I can get a gf just fine if I actually go out and talk to women, I just envy the attention that tall dudes command, the legwork when picking up girls is cut in half
At least there's that. Like I said, my friend who is 5'6 really lets it get to him, I think it really destroys his confidence and women that he would have still had a chance with otherwise see this weakness and run like the wind. It does make things more difficult for him by far. It's like the checklist for me for at least not getting rejected at first glance is "don't be fat". The checklist for him is much longer, he's already got two strikes against him being bald and short.
>he's already got two strikes against him being bald and short.
at this point he should just embrace the George Costanza look
Ye deffo getting more attention from women but mostly from men
never got that much attention from girls anyway but it peaked around 18-22 and i was working out 3-4 times a week. then the chink virus happened and i stopped going for a while, now im back again but women arent really interested. i pretty much gave up on the idea of casual sex, i just work out for health and to get back to the point of looking decent
>Screencapping his own posts
All of this sounds so tiring. Id rather just lift, play videogames and save money. When I can just buy an AI girlfriend sexbot I'll be happy.
>When I can just buy an AI girlfriend sexbot I'll be happy.
you'll be miserable
God didn't create you for AI sexbots
God isnt real retard and if he is he doesnt give a shit about any of us
>buaaaa my life isn't perfect then God doesn't exist or doesn't care!!!!
I'll be praying for you. And drop the insults
God is free to show proof of his existence whenever he wants, until then i'm going to focus on my own life
YOU ASK THIS FUCKING QUESTION EVERY FUCKING DAY JUST HAVE SEX AND GO ON WITH YOUR LIFE
>Start lifting in highschool
>Girls overtly mire me, compliment my figure and try to steal me from my gf
>10 years later, stay in shape the whole time
>People are friendly and treat me like I'm attractive, and getting girls is no issue, but full on mires have become a rarity
>I miss the mires more than I like the "subtle" female attention I get from my peers
This isn't about being fit (though I am fit), but I am curious if other anons from my area have experienced this phenomenon.
I live in NYC metro area and while I will occasionally get approached by women, I otherwise feel virtually invisible to them. Whenever I leave the area to somewhere else, (out of the state, out of the country, etc.) the difference in female attention I receive is so night and day that it is obscene. I'm talking girls just full-on flirting with me, zero shame, touching me, hugging me, female bartenders not charging me for drinks, stares, smiles, giggles, the works. I've talked to other male friends with similar experiences.
My theory is that this area is such a hyper competitive shithole with so much money running through it that chicks over here all get massively inflated egos, surrounded by finance and trust fund dickheads who will absolutely shower them with cash for attention. Hardcore hoeflation, it's dire out here.
What do you wear everyday anon? Have you tried wearing a dress shirt and trying to look more like these finance guys? Maybe you just don't appear to be from the same gentry because of your body, facial and head hair and clothes. (that 'gentry' being young guys making more or less a 100k)
I make $135k/yr working in fintech for a conservative company and I dress more nicely than virtually all of my co-workers. Even in more casual settings, the experience is the same.
your theory is on the money, the competition is brutal there in NYC. It may have the best looking girls but it also has the best looking guys, many of whom are loaded
its too easy for 7's to get wined and dined by finance bros and get addicted to that, it raises their expectations up to unrealistic standards
because the fact is there are only so many rich men and many women fighting over them
i make 170k and i aint shit over there, it can be a blow to your ego knowing the girl youre taking out on a date probably got wined and dined by some finance bro at 500k+ showing her things you can never afford
if you're in finance and making solid money, and this is based on your own relative experiences, I think you're overanalyzing it.
around Manhattan (or anywhere in the general area I suppose), finance bros are native. they're expected. a standard part of the milieu.
more people notice you when you leave the area because (to some degree) you're out of the ordinary. you're notable and women notice.
the effect would be more pronounced if you went abroad.
or maybe NYC is just a shithole.
I expect this behavior in Manhattan, of course, but feel this phenomenon extends to the whole metro area and surrounding areas like NJ and CT, simple due to the all consuming radius the city has on the surrounding area.
>around Manhattan (or anywhere in the general area I suppose), finance bros are native. they're expected. a standard part of the milieu.
*nobody* is native in NYC. It's a world city. I wouldn't even say I style myself as a finance bro, I mentioned them moreso out of a comparison to the wide variety of loaded, young men competing for female attention in this area.
>or maybe NYC is just a shithole
that we can certainly agree on
>*nobody* is native in NYC
honestly, I feel like this is mistaken. there might be millions of foreigners of every stripe, but there are still your generic types that are the locals in the area.
5'11 260lbs. Mostly fat with broad shoulders.
Down from 310lbs last year.
I barely leave the house or socialize at all, but women have definitely been treating me like an actual person recently. It's hard to explain but I'm not completely ignored like I was when I was fat. No explicit mires like the OP though.
170k in nyc means you're poor and low status.
amounts nowadays start at 1M for someone to say they are successful
I don't have a life. When I did, a single woman noticed I looked like I work out. And I've lifted on and off for more than 10 years.
The two women I've been in a relationship with preferred me slightly overweight.
I have wanted someone to touch my body and tell me how it's amazingly firm or something. It's never going to happen and I'll die wanting this.
Its because youre a huge pussy and probably DYEL
You do.
But chicks like muscles in the same way men like thinness. Chicks like leanness the way men like tna.
Trashy women like bloated dbol ogres.
Yes women smile more, are friendlier, keep their gaze on me
Pretty much everyone gives you more attention
but why did he never update this site after his other one was censored?
i guess he just quit