does fasting cause you to lose more muscle or protect it when going on a cut compared to deficit?

does fasting cause you to lose more muscle or protect it when going on a cut compared to deficit? I hear literally opposite things from different people

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    u will 100% guarantee lose muscle if you fast even if u try to mitigate it

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You'll lose muscle
    Your body needs protein to carry information around your body and keep it running, it'll take the protein from somewhere.
    Try not eating for 2 days and see how fast you lose strength and muscle.
    Just learn how to eat healthy

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      starvation takes 3 days to begin since your bowels are very fucking long, but other than that you right

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    just eat at a deficit and get all of your protein in. you dont need to fast unless you're obese

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Im trying to ask what is better for maintaining muscle - deficit or fasting? If fasting doesn't at least maintain muscle a little better then what the fuck is the point? Also how to max muscle retaining while cutting?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >deficit or fasting?
      Food obviously
      >Also how to max muscle retaining while cutting?
      Get fucking stronger, lift harder, more reps, more sets
      Attack the weights, don't just go through the motions, push yourself to lift more

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      read the sticky. eat enough protein at a deficient. you will lose a lot more muscle fasting then eating at a deficient with enough protein.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >What the fuck is the point
      Fasting as a means for cutting is primarily a meme. Fasting is great for autophagy, overall health, for obese people who need to lose weight, or really anybody who wants to lose weight fast, maybe even for dietary control. But if you're cutting from a bodybuilding point of view, with a goal of preserving muscle, it won't help in that regard at all, and there is no point.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    fucking retards i dont mean like extended fasting for days i mean intermittent fasting at most like OMAD or a 20:4 window. jesus christ

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I was only pretending to be retarded
      OMAD and 20:4 and leangains and all that, in the end, boil down to IIFYM

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      That's not fasting though that's just a limited eating window
      Welp, try it out and let us know cunt

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      If you mean the HGH increase you get from intermittent fasting, that's also a meme. The only meaningful spike in HGH begins after 24 hours of fasting, but at that point it's not enough to have an effect on preserving muscle because you haven't ate any protein.

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Just eat chicken cutlets and broccoli for a bit and nothing else.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The only benefit I get from fasting seems to be that my appetite forcefully shrinks itself. I was binge restricting on a 1.5k cut but I'm just gonna fast for 2 days for like 4 weeks at maintence not counting cardio and then move to a 500cal cut on top of the cardio I already do but skip fasting. From what I see (after experimenting nyself) is that IF is the best fasting protocol for gain loss mitigation with my current benefit of much appetite loss. All it is is CICO but you don't get protein on a fast. The most efficient t weight loss
    Protocol is called PSMF by lyle mcdonald. Literal hell, that's what I was doing your hungrier than fasting

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      On top of this eating roughly 3-5 meals a day is thenoptimal amount for PMS which mitigates catabolism of mass. 4 is the sweet spot IMO. 2hours after wake 4 hours 4 hours 2hours before slumper. If u can't see it through to Jumpstart the scheduled eating just abuse Caffeine while unfix it and then by week 2 quit caffeine and raw dog the last 2 weeks and it should be all g...75-1g/lb lbm of protein BTW. Just divide it by the number of meals. This is all if your autistic of xourse

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Look at who shills/practices it and you can guess.
    >fasting
    Morbidly obese DYELs
    >cutting
    Pro BBers who need to retain as much muscle as possible

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Cutting
    Body lacks the nutrients to stay at a surplus, but there is enough protein.
    >OMAD/time restricted diet
    You feel a lot better as the mood swings and blood sugar levels can go fuck themselves
    >actual fasting
    So your body has basically 3 days worth of food in the guts.
    While that is happening and after, torn amino acids get recycled if possibly, but the buffer has a limited size, and certain acid types get lost along the way, eventually reducing available building material.
    Brainfog due lack of salt is a possibility, but optional.

    Addendum:
    Fastest form of muscle loss is inactivity.

    All I get from IST or research papers is that all 3 entire processes is very poorly understood, and entrenched fields are just tradition more than facts.
    Fasting might be better than cutting because its faster, but there is that pesky problem of it not working for the 3 first days. And then there is that pesky problem of body signals, which cutting is a way to cheat.

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Fasting is eating 0 protein. You tell me?
    With a deficit, even if it's a heavy one you still get to eat protein.

Your email address will not be published.