Does lifting help with your self esteem or getting women?

I’m not really seeing it

  1. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    No but it did help me become gay

  2. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    If you're a dyel autismo, chances are you'll still be autismo with more muscles

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      How would that work tho
      A person with more muscle would be less vulnerable and therefore less sad about himself

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >A person with more muscle would be less vulnerable and therefore less sad about himself
        Nobody tell him KEK

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Lol no. You seem to expect things from muscle that it can't give to you.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          What has it given you?

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            You know what muscles are for anon?
            To move your skeleton around. That's literally it. If you feel vulnerable and sad, that's coming from within. And your solution will have to come from within as well.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              Jedi spotted. You would easily survive in jail.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                What do Jedis and the prison system have to do with each other?

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                That's pretty based. I'll take the compliment anon.

  3. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I 1/2/3/4 for reps at 170 and I’ve never even held a girls hand

  4. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    When I was DYEL and worse I was able to get all kinds of women. Now that I'm IST the only women who actively flirt with me are fatties (am architect) and uggos. Regular bitches mire but they seem colder. Like they see that I lift and automatically expect me to also make 6 figures, have a nice car, nice house, etc. If anything, lifting made me worse because I truly see how shallow cunts are. I'd rather fuck fatties who worship me, do anything I want, and require less effort and shit testing.
    >inb4 shit testing is good
    Honk honk.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Shit testing is actually a really fun game and so many men not understanding that and taking everything personally is why there are so many incels nowadays

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Are you supposed to confront the shit tests? Or just ignore it? In my experience when I did that she would just deny she was doing anything.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          *when I would confront them

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Imagine you're a glass and woman is the water in it. She'll try see it you can contain her. Be strong and steady or break.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Nah. I got a million other things I got to worry about and the last thing I want is some bitch trying to stir shit up when all I'm trying to do is make my ground turkey. What I find absolutely hilarious is women will immediately reject you if you let them know right off the bat you have no tolerance for it.

        Are you supposed to confront the shit tests? Or just ignore it? In my experience when I did that she would just deny she was doing anything.

        The goal is to be confident in everything you do. You wanna spend your Friday and Saturday night playing vidya? Go ahead. You wanna hang with the boys? Go ahead. You like wings with bleu cheese instead of ranch? Go ahead. The kicker is that if she isn't on board with whatever you want, you need to convert her to your way or make it clear you will not budge on whatever it is. She will start random fights at the gayest fucking times just to try and break you. if you succeed, congrats! You now get seggs until she finds something else to shit test you on. All women do it. You can avoid it by being a man of strong character but the second you show weakness, even if it is something like your dad dying and you crying, she WILL use that against you. Basically, from my experience, you gt 1-3 moments of weakness (of varying degrees) per year and they need to be spaced out decently. Any more than that and the shit tests come out of the woodwork.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Wtf is shit testing?
        t. ESL

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >he doesn't know

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Oh no I am German so I know what a Flachspüler is

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              what are the odds

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Women constantly create conflict in a relationship. These conflicts are theorized to be a form of “test” by many in the pua community, or otherwise known as shit tests. I find the entire thing to be a crock of shit drummed up to sell books
          Women in general are just chaotic at times

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >These conflicts are theorized to be a form of “test” by many in the pua community, or otherwise known as shit tests. I find the entire thing to be a crock of shit drummed up to sell books
            this is fucking retarded because any man who gets laid will tell you it's a thing, my mother does it, my gfs did it, most women do it, just because you're not observant and want to side with people who wouldn't know how to pick up chicks if they had a gun to their heads doesn't mean it's not real.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              Those are called “arguments” and those can happen with anyone you’re close to, including friends

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                The difference is that men can have arguments on something as stupid as which color is better to how to do a job and 9/10 and man with a decent T level will be direct and to the point about what he's talking about. Women will hear something they don't like, refuse to say anything about it, and then 2 weeks later after you've been drinking bring it up out of nowhere as a "HAHA GOT U FGT :))" moment. If you dare ask, "What's up? I know you're upset about something", then you are opening Hell's gates for her to talk a bunch of retarded shit that doesn't matter to the original point to be brought up.

                Touch fucking grass.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Maybe cut that grass if it burns you that bad? Lol

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >tell me you haven't touched pussy without telling me you haven't touched pussy
                I'm gonna assume you're younger than 24 or over 30 and came from reddit. Hope she sees this, dood.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                I’m clearly hitting a pussy right now

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Jesus Christ, he unironically has autism. As the other anon said, you're not as smart as you think you are.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                you really thought that was a clever bit of wordplay, I'm gonna bet you sit around online all day and shitpost to fill a void in your life, and that you don't in fact lift weights.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Too fucking much man AHAHAHAHAHAHA

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Those are called “arguments” and those can happen with anyone you’re close to, including friends
                That is not an argument you fucking retard, this is what I meant, you don't know shit about women or how they work, but you're dumbly thinking men and women are the same, when factually we aren't.

                I could give you a few examples, but I doubt you'd try to understand, continue chasing "the one" or the girl who "isn't like that"

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >double replying
                Pathetic attention seeking behavior
                You’re genuinely pitiful to look at

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >more than one person can't POSSIBLY THINK IM WRONG AND RETARDED
                also it's "samefagging" you reddit transplant piece of shit.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                No, it’s double replying when you’re this pathetic
                Keep giving my thread more bumps tho

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Your a gay

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >implying some pissbaby newgay who doesn't lift and shitposts all day is really somebody whose opinion I care about
                lmao, when you finally decide to lift weights, or not because your thread didn't give you the "data" you needed to start, remember me and how much better I am then you, I won't think of you, I won't @ you.

                Get used to being stepped on in life, this is where you belong, underfoot.

                Guys I bet OP feels really sorry for himself and doesn’t get any girls
                OP kys Eveyone here KNOWS IM RIGHT YOU gay

                You cared enough to say… this insightful message to the world
                Please, tell us more

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >
                replying
                >Pathetic attention seeking behavior
                >You’re genuinely pitiful to look at

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >men not understanding that and taking everything personally is why there are so many incels nowadays
        the reason there's a lot of "incels" now is because the dating pools is now the whole world and standards are sky high. Women have access to all men, and so most men lose their value. Doesn't matter how good you are when she can have chad thad and cad on speed dial to dick her down for a few years until they find the next girl. That's not taking into account that women being able to work further inflates the ego because them making your money means you're nothing in their eyes.

        You have to have top 1% game and top 3 % qualities to get anything, it's whya lot of losers come here.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          This is your mind on IST

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Maybe go outside and you’ll understand that he’s spitting straight facts

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              Ok Andrew tate kek

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                What color is your …whatever I can’t do this shit anymore

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Real Sigma male over here

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Tate isn’t even white, shut the fuck up about race lmao

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Ok Andrew tate kek

            >it's IST!
            >it's the internet!
            how can you think the internet hasn't had a negative impact on dating, social dynamics, or the human race. We are living in an era where the world has never been smaller and the worst qualities of humans are amplified, but pointing this out makes me into your personal bad guy.

            You'll have to grow up sometime kid.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Where is he wrong though?

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              [...]
              >it's IST!
              >it's the internet!
              how can you think the internet hasn't had a negative impact on dating, social dynamics, or the human race. We are living in an era where the world has never been smaller and the worst qualities of humans are amplified, but pointing this out makes me into your personal bad guy.

              You'll have to grow up sometime kid.

              Maybe go outside and you’ll understand that he’s spitting straight facts

              You think you’re all savvy with gnomish tricks but fall right into the trap of male/female division

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                This one picture causes so much cope and demise. I got a tip for you lads, start winning.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            He is 100% correct. Average looking women pull literal 9/10 dudes.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        When I was DYEL and worse I was able to get all kinds of women. Now that I'm IST the only women who actively flirt with me are fatties (am architect) and uggos. Regular bitches mire but they seem colder. Like they see that I lift and automatically expect me to also make 6 figures, have a nice car, nice house, etc. If anything, lifting made me worse because I truly see how shallow cunts are. I'd rather fuck fatties who worship me, do anything I want, and require less effort and shit testing.
        >inb4 shit testing is good
        Honk honk.

        What's a shit test

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Imagine making it your life's work to larp on an anime pedo image board to demoralize people into not lifting weights.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >demoralizing
        So you admit that you lift for women? Dumb moron gay. If you lift with the sole purpose of attracting women you're NGMI

  5. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    you still need to have game regardless if you lift or not.

  6. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >self esteem
    Yes
    >getting women
    No. More muscle isn't going to make you funny/charismatic/charming

  7. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I look like the before pic, with maybe more shoulder and taller, and I am approached fairly often so I would say its more about face.

  8. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    In my experience you do obviously feel more confident knowing you have a better body than almost everyone else around you and the good body + lean face + confidence do make women notice you and allows you to get away with a little bit more autism than the average man but there's still a limit to what they will tolerate. The issue then is when they do turn you down it feels even worse than when you were an untrained out of shape loser. Back then you could rationalise it by thinking that if you work hard to get fit and attractive then you wouldn't have these problems anymore, but then when you are fit and attractive you can't really justify getting rejected besides thinking that fundamentally you are just undesirable. There's no hope for improvement and it's the lack of hope that kills you.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Hi. My name is John and I hope this will happen to every single one of you.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why do you care that much what women think? Is it really that bad to be ignored by women? You are putting way too much emphasis on the opinions of women. A sign of the times I guess, where they are allowed to vote and drive as well.

  9. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm 5'7, nothing can save me. Even have hands the average size of a woman so can't even do magic correctly.

  10. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Getting lean allows more of your facial features to be visible and you will look better.
    You also don't need to get huge, girls like basic ottermode leanmax. This can easily be done without a gym membership by doing calisthenics for 1 year with a good nutrition (pushups, pullups, and core workouts)

  11. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    You need to have an attractive face for it to work

  12. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >implying some pissbaby newgay who doesn't lift and shitposts all day is really somebody whose opinion I care about
    lmao, when you finally decide to lift weights, or not because your thread didn't give you the "data" you needed to start, remember me and how much better I am then you, I won't think of you, I won't @ you.

    Get used to being stepped on in life, this is where you belong, underfoot.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Guys I bet OP feels really sorry for himself and doesn’t get any girls
      OP kys Eveyone here KNOWS IM RIGHT YOU gay

      Not op, but dude can you shut the fuck up? This is getting old

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Guys I bet OP feels really sorry for himself and doesn’t get any girls
      OP kys Eveyone here KNOWS IM RIGHT YOU gay

      You sound very booty blasted

  13. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Guys I bet OP feels really sorry for himself and doesn’t get any girls
    OP kys Eveyone here KNOWS IM RIGHT YOU gay

  14. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    you stupid incels, shit tests are to test if youre a real man who is unfazed by her shit, the underlying principle is creating drama which women love and thrive and enjoy, they feed from it, if you deflect the shit tests, she knows youre not some weak pathetic pussy who will bend at the slightest sign of push or confrontation. Just laugh at her like if you were dealing with a little girl, which they all are, dont be a beta cuck.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      We get it, OP is bad and your really special
      Now STFU

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        im not special but i have had gfs, been going out on dates recently, and been reading PUA shit since 15 years ago or so, its common sense once you read that shit and the logic behind it

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Oh, I thought you were that other anon who won’t stop bleating about OP fucking his ass raw or something
          I’d suggest avoiding this thread it’s pretty much trashed

  15. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    self-esteem yes, women no. the higher your self esteem gets the less you care about women anyway

  16. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Maybe it's just me but when I see a hot fit guy I assume he probably only wants super fit blondes, so I don't get my hopes up. That could be some of the "coldness" you guys experience.

  17. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    How old is this question? I am serious now.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Is there an old answer

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yes. The answer is "yes".
        And the answer for any other incoming question is: "Life is not simple".
        Any other fucking questions?

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Explain

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            I won't explain everything to you, retard. I gave you a simple answer that was supposed to make you think, but you seem to be unable to. Nothing will help you anyway. Lol, enjoy your hand for the rest of your life, maybe write a book about it. I'm going to sleep now, sorry. Good bye and I will be waiting for your book about your hand.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              What a shit take

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Whatever moron :D. You will never make me jealous of anything, and that's the only way you could hurt me.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Thanks I tend to have that effect on others

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                I know, I have an advice for you now. Find a girl that likes dudes who cry about their weaknesses a lot. I'm pretty sure at least one girl like this exists somewhere on the planet.

  18. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

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