does pic related fuck my hormone levels up? Posted on February 14, 2023 by Anonymous does pic related fuck my hormone levels up?
I heard fermentation removes most endocrine disruptors
This. It is nowhere near as bad as tofu, basedbean oil, onions protein etc.
The main reason Asians have only recently been estrogenized by onions is because they traditionally ate it fermented 95% of the time. Tell that to vegans who spout "but Asians have always eaten onions, it's fine!!!"
I knew about onions but does basedbean oil now get filtered to basedbean oil?
you are absolutely full of shit, we know from written historical records that unfermented beans have been consumed in China for at least 2000 years - not just as raw vegetables but in the form of tofu and "milk" as well
that doesn't exactly disprove him when you consider how most chinese men are built
if the whole point of his post is that the supposed bean-induced feminisation of Asian men is only a recent phenomenon then yes, it does
these things aren't binary. they ate unfermented onions in parts of Asia, but nowhere near the modern levels. It's in everything and is a staple protein now. The levels are a recent phenomenon, but it has always been around and fucking people up, hence the average Chinaman (look at how the Mongols roasted the weak Chinese for their sissification diet)
there is no naturally occurring foodstuff that will significantly affect your hormones. transgender people have tried more things and more combinations of things than you can imagine and you need pharmaceuticals to affect your hormone levels.
there's plenty of trannies on forums who have used $oy isolates exclusively and have had big changes, especially in body fat distribution, manboobs, and general "softness"
post any please?
that sounds like conspiratorial claptrap
just search it yourself. I can't search any chud forums right now, I'm on nofap.
hahaha top kek
not a chud
someone was spamming this cunt on another board and it turns out she's a grifter female using facetuning and a dildo
oh really that's upsetting
>she's a grifter female using facetuning and a dildo
lmao the lengths attention whores will go to
That's a woman and she's not even trying.
That's obviously a woman, you fuckin' numbskulls
ok so you're talking shit.
once again, there is no naturally occurring foodstuff that will significantly affect your hormone levels.
Good thing that in reality, söy does nothing bad to you according to clinical studies
>No effects of söy/isoflavones on testosterone or estrogen levels in men were noted.
>38 clinical studies were deemed suitable for inclusion in the meta-analysis.
meanwhile, in reality, onions isoflavones are sold as post-menopausal estrogen therapy.
we have discordtrannies in this thread
are you butthurt because you can't demonstrate that any foodstuff significantly affects hormone levels?
im not that anon. the comment you responded to was my first in this thread. also yes i can. almost back to the shop, need to stop at the store before heading home. when I get home I will happily send you multiple studies backing that up
so you're butthurt because you'll tell me later?
>the hormones of someone who eats canola onions shit all their life will be the same as they would be if they ate minimally processed whole foods
do you even read what you type before you post? or do you actually believe that it doesn't matter what you eat as long as you get the nutrients on the label?
I think guys like that think that way because of fear. It is a lot more comforting to believe you are 100% the master of your health and hormones through exercise and le hecking CICO. It is scary and disempowering to realize hormones are very complex and can be affect by things you have little or no control over. Stuff like what your ancestors ate, how much cholesterol your mother got during pregnancy, if your mother used a certain perfume while you were growing up, if you had cheap polyester blankets and underwear, if there was a big fire in your area decades before you were born and the fire retardants leeched into the water, if your grandmother was prescribed Diethylstilbestrol, if you grew up on processed foods, if your gut biome was wrecked from antibiotics etc.
We shouldn't just roll over and not make an effort, but it scares some people to face the facts about external influences.
Diethylstilbestrol is the bleakest black pill. It is still measurably affecting people three or four generations down the line. Extrapolate that out from how many women were given it, and it's likely hundreds of millions affected
Yes, yes, and you can drink crude oil as long as you crush some multivitamins in and pour it over your oatmeal. Practically a complete breakfast.
information is useful
blackpilling yourself into defeatism isn't
of course shit fucks you up, has fucked you up in the past - even muh caveman days, civilization allowed us to both get better and worse shit (both knowingly and inadvertently)
and in the future we'll figure some shit out, and will be affected by some new shit
do your due diligence but don't fall for the garden gnomes that profit off women worrying about chemical-free everything, and don't fall for govt and corpos doing "don't worry about it" CYA psyops either
false. They don't increase estrogen but they act as estrogen analogues, causing estrogenic effects
>No effects of söy/isoflavones on testosterone or estrogen levels
Technically true but only a half truth
this, only things that can modify your hormones is losing weight, exercise or meds
imagine having such a basic bitch simpleton NPC level understanding of biology
Stress, cortisol, inflammation, nutrient levels, sleep, sunlight exposure, plastics, phthalates, even the presence of the opposite sex or babies can alter hormones
all of those things correlate with everything i already said you stupid gay, doing exercise alone (being physically active) will lead you to nearly all of that as well
food has jackshit to do with your testosterone or estrogen levels
are you clinically retarded?
not an argument, kys
I couldn't be bothered holding your hand, but here you go: vitamin D affects hormones, eating too much sugar or corn syrup affects hormones, insulin and insulin resistance affects hormones, iodine levels affect hormones, protein levels can affect your hormones, fat intake can seriously affect your hormones, cholesterol affects your hormones, many of the B vitamins affect hormones. Just spend a few minutes looking this stuff up. It will blow your mind. Nutrition doesn't just boil down to chicken, broccoli, and rice jesus christ
Show me one (1) rct where any food or vitamin d increases or decreases your testosterone or estrogen, go ahead
the first result of a search of "vitamin D testosterone"
I have a bad feeling I've fallen for some elaborate bait...
>Healthy overweight men undergoing a weight reduction program who participated in a randomized controlled trial
>Further randomized controlled trials are warranted to confirm this hypothesis.
Useless rct done in fat people, merely an hypothesis as the authors themselves said, show me one done on non-fat people or one about food
All the participants were overweight and losing weight, yet only the vit D group had test increases. Google more yourself, you insufferable gay
>inb4 haha not an argument haha I win because I've tired you out with my retardedness
This study supersedes your study, this one was done in non-fat men who had low T and Vitamin D did not increase their testosterone, the study you linked was clearly confounded by the stochastic nature of losing weight
>We found no significant treatment effect on serum TT or on the remaining secondary outcome variables.
>Vitamin D treatment had no effect on serum TT levels in middle-aged healthy men with low TT levels.
Wow just take the loss. Yes, I saw he called you a basic bitch which is kind of gay but ffs doubling down on being a dumbass is not going to change anything. You'll live
You mean to tell me the soification of asians in recent history is just a coincidence? Its also around the time after ww2 that they started consuming unfermented soi products. Really makes you think ..
as an adult this is probably true. but children and adolescents are different. there are some odd things that you might not think about that can cause issues.
for example, lavender extracts can cause gynecomastia in teenage boys. there were a bunch of kids who started growing bitch tits, and they found the cause was lavender in the shampoo they were using.
>sample size <10, i think it was three?
>~50% of boys going through puberty will get temporary gynecomastia
You're referring to a case description, please correct me if wrong. Subsequent studies haven't managed to demonstrate any link between lavender oil and gyno. Besides, you may not that i referred to foodstuffs, not topical application of essential oils.
i don't know of exact numbers, but the link has been positive enough to warrant caution, at least for children.
my only point was that kids are effected differently from adults. things like tofu and onions sauce seem to have little to no effect on grown men, but i would be more cautious with children and keep them away from it.
Trannies want huge fast results. A measurable but not immediately noticeable change over time is still bad. So fuck off, Moshe.
>a measurable but not immediately noticeable change over time
may i see?
if you don't know what you're referring to, how can you be confident in your assertions?
most pharmaceuticals are based upon naturally occurring foodstuff/plants, they're just concentrated and/or refined.
i can say from experince that hardcore alcholism will affect your hormone levels in a bad way
This. They wouldn't need surgery if it was as easy as sippin on juice
Everything these days does
yep I use the same one and went to a gay sauna on no towel night
worrying about a sparingly-used condiment suggests you're already gay
No but has carcinogenic properties due to the chinese method of disolving onions beans. True authentic Japanese method is safe.
I’d worry more about the salt content
is tofu actually bad for you
i had some genuine miso soup (where i live theres like 2 good japanese restaurants) with tofu and seaweed like a week ago and that shit was amazing
no and there's not even that much of it in miso soup anyway
do most asian men walk around with bitch tits and do they dicks atrophy and stop working?
depends who you ask i suppose
Most of the bad stuff about s'oy has to do with the oil being highly polyunsaturated, and the phytoestrogens.
A few drops of s'oy sauce is fine.
I saw a chart somewhere where soi sauce doesn't have much estrogenic activity, think its because of the fermentation. Something like picrel but better
I've been doing a japanese diet for the past three months because I'm 30, don't give a fuck, and it's easy and tasty
I've been eating a fuckton of yuzu ponzu, onions sauce, and miso and my lifts and recovery are doing great. I wake up with a boner and my beard has been growing like crazy
have you ever considered that it's possible that onions is not the problem, but more likely the over 9000 other chemicals like stabilizers, colorants, and flavorings they add into the goyslop onions drinks and shit like onions? you shouldn't be eating that much of it anyway. It's not meat or rice, it's a fucking bean. It's probably equally as unhealthy as eating powdered concentrated pinto bean protein mixed with preservant chemicals or some shit
if you're over 18% bodyfat, you should be losing fucking weight rather than stressing about what sauce you put on your food, you fat fuck. fat cells are 1000x worse for your hormone levels than some salty brown stuff
>>>/a/ is that way fucking weeb