does programming even matter

I just go to failure on every exercise last set

I do PPL my own design reps anywhere between 6 to 12 sometimes high rep

PUSH
Dumbbell bench
Incline dumbbell bench
Lateral raise
Chest flyes
Then i do lots of tricep isolation

PULL
Lat pulldown
Cable row
Chest supported row
Reverse flyes
Bicep curls
Preacher curls

LEGS + SHOULDERS
Back squat
Bulgarian split squats
Leg press
Shoulder press
Lateral raise
How does this look?

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    looks liek shit and yes it does matter

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      programming starts to matter once you get advanced.
      If you don't care about being big then it doesn't matter.
      I'd rate your program 4/10.

      what wrong with it

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Each exercise should train a different muscle group. On your push day you're training chest twice back to back.
        Then you add "a lot of tricep isolations" whatever that means. Why are you doing lateral raises on a push day? I already know why; "spamming lateral raises will build the side delts."
        Spoiler; it won't.
        Do some barbell rows for god's sake. Why is everything supported? This is why people have weak lower backs.
        No diddly variation? Not even back extensions?
        No hamstrings
        Then you say you do "anywhere between 6 to 12 sometimes high rep"
        Wtf does that mean? You just go with the flow?
        Like I said; if you only care about ottermode it's ok, but if you want to get near the natty limit only do this for 6-8 months than switch to a good program designed by someone who knows what they're doing.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Push day is a good time for lateral raises

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Each exercise should train a different muscle group.
          Okay
          >On your push day you're training chest twice back to back.
          Ok and
          >Then you add "a lot of tricep isolations" whatever that means.
          It means that i am doing tricep isolation exercises google some examples if you have to
          >Why are you doing lateral raises on a push day?
          I think spamming them will build the side delts. Also its not exactly a pull or leg movement is it
          >I already know why; "spamming lateral raises will build the side delts." Spoiler; it won't.
          Tbh its the only thing working pretty well
          >Do some barbell rows for god's sake.Why is everything supported? This is why people have weak lower backs.
          Might start to include em
          >No diddly variation? Not even back extensions?
          Never heard of em
          >Wtf does that mean? You just go with the flow?
          That means that i sometimes do heavy weight low rep like 6 and sometimes 12 reps
          >switch to a good program designed by someone who knows what they're doing.
          Like what where could i find this

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >That means that i sometimes do heavy weight low rep like 6 and sometimes 12 reps
            How can it be that sometimes you do 6 and sometimes 12 reps unless you take different dumbbells each time?
            If your performance varies with the same set so much then it must be variance in conditions(morning/evening, food/no food, happy/depressed) or you are just half-assing it really

            https://i.imgur.com/HdJcmXu.jpg

            Dunno really. As long as you're eating at a surplus and the weight is going up I don't really see the problem. Pic related is my current 6 day a week routine. I'll probably strip back some of the accessories once I start hitting plateaus and do some more focused work on my compound lifts.

            The issue is that if you don't track and follow no program, you don't even notice when you plateau

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >How can it be that sometimes you do 6 and sometimes 12 reps unless you take different dumbbells each time?
              sorry, i do use different dumbells on some lifts. like idk bicep curls sometimes i do a bit more ego lifting, sometimes i do more slow controlled but more reps you know

              >The issue is that if you don't track and follow no program
              i do track all my lifts

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      programming starts to matter once you get advanced.
      If you don't care about being big then it doesn't matter.
      I'd rate your program 4/10.

      Please answer me

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    programming starts to matter once you get advanced.
    If you don't care about being big then it doesn't matter.
    I'd rate your program 4/10.

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Looks fine. I have a similar one (although all my sets are 12 reps and barely go till failure).
    But what is the problem, OP? Of course programming counts.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i am not getting stronger maybe i should not be going to failure so much?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        add weight

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Well,....take my case. I dropped PPL in December to go back to a strong routine.
        Planning to return to it in April when cutting starts, why not doing something like that?

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >does programming even matter
    No. Whatever the frick i feel like doing x6 each session, done. All programming I need. Miss me with that nerd shit.

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Dunno really. As long as you're eating at a surplus and the weight is going up I don't really see the problem. Pic related is my current 6 day a week routine. I'll probably strip back some of the accessories once I start hitting plateaus and do some more focused work on my compound lifts.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I find that not being super rigid and having a few options for my accessories keeps things fresh and stops me getting bored. It gets boring as frick doing the exact same thing every time.

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You forgot to mention whether you doing this once or twice per week. I'm assuming it's once because of the doubled up laterals.
    My edit would be
    >PUSH
    Incline dumbbell bench
    Lateral raise
    Chest flyes
    Tri iso
    Abs
    >PULL
    Lat pulldown
    Cable row
    Reverse flyes
    Hammer curl
    Back extension
    >LEGS + SHOULDERS
    Back squat or Bulgarian split squats
    Leg curl
    Calf raise
    Shoulder press
    Lateral raise

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Twice a week. Maybe rest day one every two weeks. Thanks for the recommendation i will go over it

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        If you take nothing else from this thread, please change your leg training. 3 heavy quad compounds and nothing else is going to ruin your knees and your physique.

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I’m assuming you’re fairly new so this is aimed more at someone who’s been lifting for less than a few years
    >Are you running this as PxPxLxx?
    It may not be enough stimulation for all muscle groups. Even switching triceps isolations to pull and biceps to push would ensure they get more frequent stimulus.
    >The lack of core/abs exercises isn’t good.
    Abs are grown in the gym and revealed in the kitchen like any other muscle. Add something like hanging knee raises to pull day and ab rollers to push day.
    >The leg day is very quad focused.
    Pick one of those 3 exercises - even alternating between back squats/leg press and Bulgarian split squats each time is better. There’s no hip hinge/hamstring/glutes work so add in RDLs
    >too many similar exercises (done back to back) and hence junk volume
    It’s best not to exercise the same muscle group two exercises in a row. Pick only one row. You only need one isolation per arm muscle group (ie 1 bicep, 1 tricep, 1 forearms) at the end of the session as you should be smoked by then

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Programming only matters if you want to peak your strength for a certain date to compete

    Don’t fall for the powershitter e-coaches peddling thing as something you have to do if all you care about is looking good naked

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Programming only matters if you want to peak your strength for a certain date to compete
      thank you, this is reassuring

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If you train to failure then programming does not matter. Most advanced body builders don’t even count reps.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah but tbh they were on steroids. And on steroids, anything works.

      You can literally get rid of half of those movements and finish in half the time just by replacing with bench, pullups, ohp, squat, deadlift, bb curl.

      >one million isolations with b***h weight yet no exercise rotation no hip hinge no rear delt isolation no abs or core
      This is like the textbook garbage volume routine

      Cant deadlift due to injury in back. I do all those compounds anyways so the isolation is just helping.

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You can literally get rid of half of those movements and finish in half the time just by replacing with bench, pullups, ohp, squat, deadlift, bb curl.

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >one million isolations with b***h weight yet no exercise rotation no hip hinge no rear delt isolation no abs or core
    This is like the textbook garbage volume routine

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Didn't read your program but I would redeem her, MAYBE even do the needful

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