I've noticed a strong uptick in fat loss and drive while on it while not expecting either effect. The same happened to some woman I recommended it to aswell despite me saying it only helps for stress.
But all that could also be due to ash increasing thyroid activity.
morons will spend hundreds of dollars on natural supps to increase T levels by 100 (literally nothing), instead of just pinning 200 test weekly (trt level).
>morons will spend hundreds of dollars on natural supps to increase T levels by 100 (literally nothing), instead of just pinning 200 test weekly (trt level).
yes because some people want to be natural and not take a bunch of hormones and drugs like a troony
>testosterone isn't natural >a bunch of hormones and drugs
200 test is literally nothing compared to 'real dosages'. 200 test takes you from feeling like the 40yr old fat boomer (that you are) who's dick doesn't work to feeling high energy and confident like you were as a teen. Those natty supps barely get your dick hard. Waste of money.
>Waste of money.
I was on steroids for years. I literally never came off for like 3 years, just blasting and cruising. Steroids are not all they're chalked up to be. Eventually you get tired of pinning and knowing that your body is dependent on weekly injections. Also, knowing if the back of your mind that your heart is growing and will likely need surgery someday is very discomforting. >Waste of money.
maybe so, but I got plenty of money so this isnt a factor for me >Those natty supps barely get your dick hard.
dick works fine. I'm just looking to be optimal
>I got plenty of money
So having plenty of money is a reason to waste it on shit that has placebo tier effects? Might as well start sunning and icing your balls too.
>blasting and cruising
Then just do TRT lmao. If you don't want to inject just do the gel.
Truth. Wasted years and tons of money on bullshit "natural" test boosters. Started 200 mg of test per week last year and i feel like a god. Never getting off TRT
Exogenous testosterone will frick with your body chemistry in ways other drugs which stimulate endogenous production won't. If you don't cycle properly you can permanently damage your testicles' ability to produce its own androgrens, which of course can also lead to sterility.
>testosterone isn't natural >a bunch of hormones and drugs
200 test is literally nothing compared to 'real dosages'. 200 test takes you from feeling like the 40yr old fat boomer (that you are) who's dick doesn't work to feeling high energy and confident like you were as a teen. Those natty supps barely get your dick hard. Waste of money.
If you're suffering from impotence the problem is likely elsewhere.
It works, but you build a tolerance to it pretty quickly. When I first started taking it I would have insane energy, popping random boners all the time, and basically feel like I was taking test. But after about 2 weeks or so the effects dropped down drastically. I have to take a month or two off to start feeling like that again, still looking for something I alternate usage with.
Yeah you shouldn't use everyday, I will take 4 or 5 days a week if I take
The 2 other plants I hear about are Fadogia agrestis
And Turkesterone (but that seems to be most likely snake oil)
This shit will likely not work. I started taking it for 2 days and it completely killed my libido and ability to get an erection for the following 24-48 hours post final dose.
I already have symptoms of low estrogen - if ever any - and TA is supposed to increase T by stimulating LH as well as slowing down aromatization (T->E). So T should go up and E should go down. Anyways, this shit skyrocketed my E:
Water retention, spineless floppy boners, moody, insomnia, etc.
The only thing I'll say is it actually benefited lifting - my joints felt insane and the extra emotion was nice and there was also a mental clarity, probably from not being held back by coom brain. But seeing a new girl and not risking it balancing out after a week or some shit lmao.
If you feel good already, don't take it.
I don't know bro, I'm healthy sexually and didn't experience anything like that at all, initially took it because I was having lots of stress at work and heard it could reduce cortisol. I had morning wood every morning prior to taking it and it just amplified it 2-3x, could think about nothing but sex and would coom the second I got home from work, then 30 minutes later i'd already be horny again.
You bring up a good point. It could have been cortisol related as I am relatively low stress as is and do supplement with other adaptogens. Just wanted to put my n=1 out there in case anyone got a similar outcome.
It does seem to be pretty hit or miss with people in general. The two main sides of the coin being - it works well - or - it gave me gyno, etc.
This shit will likely not work. I started taking it for 2 days and it completely killed my libido and ability to get an erection for the following 24-48 hours post final dose.
I already have symptoms of low estrogen - if ever any - and TA is supposed to increase T by stimulating LH as well as slowing down aromatization (T->E). So T should go up and E should go down. Anyways, this shit skyrocketed my E:
Water retention, spineless floppy boners, moody, insomnia, etc.
The only thing I'll say is it actually benefited lifting - my joints felt insane and the extra emotion was nice and there was also a mental clarity, probably from not being held back by coom brain. But seeing a new girl and not risking it balancing out after a week or some shit lmao.
15% and above is where aromatization starts to occur more rapidly and problems with hormones may start to arise. 15% is lower than the majority of people that even lift anyways, dunno what you're crying about.
I've been taking the 10% from NootropicsDepot for a month now, 1 pill a day.
I meet all requirements from your post and funnily enough looking at the infographic it has me trending slightly towards the lower estro since taking it.
My body composition has improved though and overall mood (WRT stress) is much better. I'm a trader and my overall state is much more stable while I'm working.
>muscle gain >fat loss >drive >energy
If there was a single supplement that could help substantially with all of this everyone would be on it silly anon.
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made me more agressive for the first week(which probably is placebo since i read about that before using it) then felt no different or noticed more gains. seems to be bullshit just like all the other supplements out there
Bump
I've recently heard about it but haven't tried it yet
It has been proven to Increase T
But I wanted to know how noticeable the effects were
>open video
>check description
>amazon affiliate link
>close video
Andrew Huberman also talked about it with Joe Rogan
oy vey, if Goy Rogan endorsed it then it must work!
iirc its effects on test were slightly less than ashwaganda which was about 90. Drive/energy wise i took it and it does hep mood a bit
It's one of the few natural ways to increase T. The other one being ash.
But the increase of Ashwaghanda is way less important right? Ash is only for stress not really for the things I mentioned above
I've noticed a strong uptick in fat loss and drive while on it while not expecting either effect. The same happened to some woman I recommended it to aswell despite me saying it only helps for stress.
But all that could also be due to ash increasing thyroid activity.
I've been using Ashwagandha and tongkat for about 6 months and I think they help but it's such a small effect that you don't really notice it.
I got on finasteride and got fin dick. I got on Tongkat 1g a night....and my dick feels stronger,bigger and errections feel great again.
how long taking fin until ur dick broke?
morons will spend hundreds of dollars on natural supps to increase T levels by 100 (literally nothing), instead of just pinning 200 test weekly (trt level).
>morons will spend hundreds of dollars on natural supps to increase T levels by 100 (literally nothing), instead of just pinning 200 test weekly (trt level).
yes because some people want to be natural and not take a bunch of hormones and drugs like a troony
>ashwaghandha/tongkat
>natty
pick one
>literally a plant we would eat in the wild in prehistory
>not natty
the absolute state of you
glad someone finally took the bait lmao
>I was merely pretending to be moronic
Damn, anon. You're the king jester of this board.
>testosterone isn't natural
>a bunch of hormones and drugs
200 test is literally nothing compared to 'real dosages'. 200 test takes you from feeling like the 40yr old fat boomer (that you are) who's dick doesn't work to feeling high energy and confident like you were as a teen. Those natty supps barely get your dick hard. Waste of money.
>Waste of money.
I was on steroids for years. I literally never came off for like 3 years, just blasting and cruising. Steroids are not all they're chalked up to be. Eventually you get tired of pinning and knowing that your body is dependent on weekly injections. Also, knowing if the back of your mind that your heart is growing and will likely need surgery someday is very discomforting.
>Waste of money.
maybe so, but I got plenty of money so this isnt a factor for me
>Those natty supps barely get your dick hard.
dick works fine. I'm just looking to be optimal
>looking to be optimal
then get on trt
>I got plenty of money
So having plenty of money is a reason to waste it on shit that has placebo tier effects? Might as well start sunning and icing your balls too.
>blasting and cruising
Then just do TRT lmao. If you don't want to inject just do the gel.
Truth. Wasted years and tons of money on bullshit "natural" test boosters. Started 200 mg of test per week last year and i feel like a god. Never getting off TRT
Exogenous testosterone will frick with your body chemistry in ways other drugs which stimulate endogenous production won't. If you don't cycle properly you can permanently damage your testicles' ability to produce its own androgrens, which of course can also lead to sterility.
If you're suffering from impotence the problem is likely elsewhere.
>cycle
I'm talking about TRT.
im scared of needles
It works, but you build a tolerance to it pretty quickly. When I first started taking it I would have insane energy, popping random boners all the time, and basically feel like I was taking test. But after about 2 weeks or so the effects dropped down drastically. I have to take a month or two off to start feeling like that again, still looking for something I alternate usage with.
Yeah you shouldn't use everyday, I will take 4 or 5 days a week if I take
The 2 other plants I hear about are Fadogia agrestis
And Turkesterone (but that seems to be most likely snake oil)
It takes me roughly 2-3 days for it to build up and start feeling effects though. If I just take it once or do it once a week I don't feel anything.
I don't know bro, I'm healthy sexually and didn't experience anything like that at all, initially took it because I was having lots of stress at work and heard it could reduce cortisol. I had morning wood every morning prior to taking it and it just amplified it 2-3x, could think about nothing but sex and would coom the second I got home from work, then 30 minutes later i'd already be horny again.
You bring up a good point. It could have been cortisol related as I am relatively low stress as is and do supplement with other adaptogens. Just wanted to put my n=1 out there in case anyone got a similar outcome.
It does seem to be pretty hit or miss with people in general. The two main sides of the coin being - it works well - or - it gave me gyno, etc.
Is this safe to take? I'm currently taking growth surge creatine and Nutriisa turkesterone.
Does Turkesterone do anything?
I heard it's a meme / marketing
Warning to anyone who is already healthy:
quality/frequent boners, muscular + lean (sub 15%), good diet + decent supp stack, etc
This shit will likely not work. I started taking it for 2 days and it completely killed my libido and ability to get an erection for the following 24-48 hours post final dose.
I already have symptoms of low estrogen - if ever any - and TA is supposed to increase T by stimulating LH as well as slowing down aromatization (T->E). So T should go up and E should go down. Anyways, this shit skyrocketed my E:
Water retention, spineless floppy boners, moody, insomnia, etc.
The only thing I'll say is it actually benefited lifting - my joints felt insane and the extra emotion was nice and there was also a mental clarity, probably from not being held back by coom brain. But seeing a new girl and not risking it balancing out after a week or some shit lmao.
If you feel good already, don't take it.
>lean (sub 15%)
How low the standards have fallen, Jesus. 12% is decently lean, sure, but 15%!?
15% and above is where aromatization starts to occur more rapidly and problems with hormones may start to arise. 15% is lower than the majority of people that even lift anyways, dunno what you're crying about.
I've been taking the 10% from NootropicsDepot for a month now, 1 pill a day.
I meet all requirements from your post and funnily enough looking at the infographic it has me trending slightly towards the lower estro since taking it.
My body composition has improved though and overall mood (WRT stress) is much better. I'm a trader and my overall state is much more stable while I'm working.
>muscle gain
>fat loss
>drive
>energy
If there was a single supplement that could help substantially with all of this everyone would be on it silly anon.
I prefer Amaba Tokamu complex
>1020mg
aka 750mg of dirt, dried plant matter with no active ingredient, dead bugs, fertilizer, etc
the dose for tongkat is ~300mg for low concentrate and 100mg if high concentrate, you're being scammed, moron.
keep simping for that troonyhomosexual MYASD and his reddit platoon. go back.
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Yes but brand is everything,yurogay here and Swanson is the best,tried others and no effect
Yurogay too,That's the one I was planning to take
Even though the I can get the one of the pic too
its legit. i take this shit with ashwagandha and maca and ive noticed a much more elevated mood and greater sense of masculinity
Took it for a while, didn't notice shit.
Buy yohimbine HCL and cialis instead.
I don't trust the stuff. What's the catch? Side effects? I took it a few times and it made me agitated
That's one of the sides being really agitated / anxious.
anyone know if this is available in stores in AU? id rather not have to order it online.
made me more agressive for the first week(which probably is placebo since i read about that before using it) then felt no different or noticed more gains. seems to be bullshit just like all the other supplements out there