Does the heart have a "finite" amount of beats?

In your opinion, does the human heart have a "finite" amount of beats? As in no matter what you do, your heart is going to STOP beating at some predetermined amount of beats if you don't die some other way? I have a friend who believes that working out is helpful for building up the body but because it taxes the heart, its ultimately pointless to work out. How many beats do we truly have left?

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    > thinking the heart doesn't have a finite number of beats

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The heart of a smoker and the heart of a athlete just aren't the same. A smokers heart definitely must have fewer beats.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    yeah it does, but being gay mn2ta4akes it go black

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    That's not true, it's this old myth

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't see why this would be the case, if anything I think it's just an argument over if something naturally concludes was that a pre-determined conclusion?

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    My dad unironically believes this

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Working out regularly results in a lower rest8ng heart rate. During competition season my heart rate was 50 to 60 beats. When i became a lazy fat ass it was 90 to 100. Started working out regularly a few weeks ago and its already dropped to 80 to 90.

    In short your friend is retarded.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Same, my resting heart rate went from around 90 to 60 with just a few weeks of doing intense cardio almost every day.

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Let's say it has finite number of beats, if you exercise your heart will get bigger and strong so when you're not exercising it beats less times. So it probably works out that you can last longer

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >take daily beta blocker
    >live to 130

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      If your heart is beating at 90 BPM during rest it's because you need that much blood going around, taking a beta blocker and lowering the heart rate is just a retarded bandaid fix for high blood pressure that fucks up your body longterm

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        you are just a beta male

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Nah, I'm more of an omega male

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        damn thats me fucked then been taking these for years

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Why so long? High blood pressure is fixable through diet

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            migraines

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Don’t listen to him. Beta blockers have increased the life expectancy of those at risk/develop MI. But of course that still means you should try to lower your heart rate by natural means like doing cardio

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    it has more to do with your heart's function worsening with years as the cells get older and more degraded. I dont think your heart is programmed to stop beating after a certain amount of beats

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >He knows too much. Shut his heart down.

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Does a water pump have a finite amount of pumps?

    I mean, I guess, but what does that mean? It's not like you're born with a counter on your heart that goes down every time it beats, continuing with the water pump analogy: What happens if you leave a water pump dormant for years, without performing any kind of maintenance, and then start using it heavily? Something's probably going to break.

    Maybe that's a bad analogy, I don't know, I'm not a fucking plumber, but the heart is just a pump, the same laws of physics apply to it that apply to any mechanical system, and these laws are mostly unpredictable. Slap a bit of duct tape on your broken water pump and it might hold for days, or it might hold for months, these things are less about precise predictions and more about probability/statistics.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I can continue this analogy. The heart is a pump that heals and strengthens itself with use. Being a healthy weight and exercising lowers the amount of cholesterol in the blood, making the job of the heart better. Specifically putting a reduced force on the valves.

      There are healthy limits. You dont want to juice yourself up on stimulants and do suicide sprints if you are at risk of heart disease. (fat, pre existing condition, drug user, etc).

      Even if you do believe there are a finite number of beats, its still worth it. People who are athletic have insane low resting heart rates compared to the average person.

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    hearts are the same as vehicles. Eventually the engine just breaks and you need to get a new one. Like tears in the rain.

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Sounds like a cope to avoid doing cardio

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Hindus and Buddhists believed you have a set number of breaths, so you should breathe more slowly. Meditative breathing also decreases heart rate so maybe they were onto something

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    No. The body isn't a machine that's incapable of adaptation. Other factors determine when the heart gives out.

    Otherwise, people who do more cardio would die younger than lazy fat people because they push their heart harder.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I can continue this analogy. The heart is a pump that heals and strengthens itself with use. Being a healthy weight and exercising lowers the amount of cholesterol in the blood, making the job of the heart better. Specifically putting a reduced force on the valves.

      There are healthy limits. You dont want to juice yourself up on stimulants and do suicide sprints if you are at risk of heart disease. (fat, pre existing condition, drug user, etc).

      Even if you do believe there are a finite number of beats, its still worth it. People who are athletic have insane low resting heart rates compared to the average person.

      Refreshingly nuanced takes, this is pretty much it.

      The "finite heartbeats" myths comes from the finding that if you multiply a mammal's average heart rate by it's average lifespan, you get *roughly* 1 billion beats across all mammals.

      However this is just a VERY loose average and it's more so a quirk of biology. Smaller hearts beat faster but tend to belong to animals with faster metabolisms and thus live shorter whilst big animals have big hearts and slow metabolisms. In the end, this just so happens to balance out around 1 billion - but its just a coincidence.

      The heart isn't a machine, you won't "preserve" it by not using it, in fact you'll probably die earlier as it atrophies.

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Not exactly, it can be changed depending on how poorly you treat your body. Boogie for example is nearing the end no matter what he does.

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    you normally only work out a small fraction of the week
    people who try to workout excessively WILL fuck their hearts, but average joe gets only benefits

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >The heart isn't a machine, you won't "preserve" it by not using it, in fact you'll probably die earlier as it atrophies.

    100% and its true across all forms of exercise. The body is meant to be used and undergo a certain degree of stress.

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Does the heart have a "finite" amount of beats?
    Yes like the dick has a finite amount of getting up
    Depend how good it is maintained

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    This is some stonewall Jackson 1800s made up medical shit type bs

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    No are you fucking retarded. If that were true, the people that lived the longest would be sedentary fat fucks who never get their heart rate up.

    People who exercise and regularly get their heart rate up are healthier and live longer.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >No are you fucking retarded.
      Firstly, questions have a question mark at the end of the sentence, secondly op said its his friend and your reading comprehension is absolutely deHispanicable

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Won't there be artificial hearts in the future? You just have to survive till then.

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    This is a funny question.
    At one hand, like all the other anons said, the heart isn’t a machine that you can preserve by not using it, but on the other hand increasing your heart rate because you’re obese/hypertensive/diabetic,etc makes you at risk of dying early. Also a person with athletic heart syndrome has a lower heart rate and tends to live longer

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