Pre-lift, I think I have pretty normal taste in women. Just like normal looking women I guess? POST LIFT, it immediately changes into huge breasts, huge ass, hispanic and tatted up head to toe and ghetto as all hell. Like REAL ghetto. As in shoot up a Mcdonalds if they frick my order up ghetto. Sounds bad because it is bad but post lift SMOG is fricking real and might invite you to make bad decisions. Luckily I am garbage at meeting women so I never actually get to frick up like that. Its funny how after lifting, you feel good but your taste in women enters the fricking gutter.
prelift 12-16
postlift 10-12
p much this. but I will always and forever love little girls.
I was lifting for 3 years and always liked petite white girls but had a switch turned up in my brain after covid and started going really hard with massive gains over the past year and suddenly get really turned on by THICC latinas. It is so bad that I can't hold a conversation with a thicc latina without straight up telling her how much I wanna ravage her on the spot. It gets pisitive response around 10% of the time when the girl is already into me but the rest of time they end up playing games the might postpone sex and I just jerk off and lose interest
This is brutal because as someone who is doing nofap or trying to lay off the porno. After the gym, I instantly feel like I should jack off but I haven't been. its actually a terrible feeling because I do want to get clean of porn but at the same time, it makes me wonder about the end game. I don't know if I can leave porn alone forever, especially since I am not well versed in meeting women. So not only can I not jack off, I am inept and can't have sex either. Whats the end game?
I'm in the same position brother. I'm doing it because I don't like porn's effects and because I fell for the death grip meme. If you need to jack off DO NOT use porn, it rots the mind, body, and soul.
I never understood the jack off but don't use porn approach. If I don't use porn, and I jack off, I am still basically thinking about porn anyway. Well I guess not porn I have seen but its just made up situations in my head.
It's just copium to try have a one up on their fellow porn addicts.
Either you abstain from masturbation and sex outside of marriage indefinitely, or don't bother.
you can distinguish between images you conjure in your head and ones that are right before your eyes on the screen, right? the latter is more potent and real and will frick with your ability to appreciate real-life eroticism
haha, you got my number! more porn for me, haha!
I guess maybe I don't understand real life eroticism then as I have never been involved in it. I can definitely still jack off using just my brain and just conjure up random sexual situations and what not. I guess what I am having a hard time thinking about is how NOT using porn on a screen saves your brain when I can take the same porno I saw(If I wanted) and think about it in my head. I know porn is definitely bad but I guess I am just not seeing how jacking off without it isn't just as bad. It seems like the only way to jack off is to do it without any sort of sexual influence from porn or your brain which sounds moronic. I don't think I could ever just jack off to the feeling of jacking off if that makes sense?
obviously if you use porn regularly and don't get laid you will refer to the porn when you are jacking it, even if you aren't watching it in the moment.
but in time, if you quit that shit cold turkey, you'll forget about that stuff altogether, or your memory of them will be so dim as to make them useless fap fodder anyway. at this point you should just be jacking it to women in your life, or some fantasy woman, and think of yourself as a participant in the action instead of a voyeur to someone elses, which is cuck shit if you really think about it
incredible to believe but there are people who are naturally disgusted by pornography, and dont feel compelled to use it at all. they live healthy sex lives even if they arent having sex because they dont feel the compulsion to jack it in front of a screen like you or i do. no pron is the baseline, it is healthy and normally and appropriate.
Have you guys actually tried pursuing women? I don't get this whole all or nothing thing with coomers/no fappers
>pursuing women?
waste of time
it isn't that simple, I'm afraid. Lifting does not cure autism and women can smell your intent and insecurities and lack of confidence from a mile away. It's also risky just because if you make the wrong impression then you might get a reputation that can be detrimental to your chances of finding a fling or a partner in that entire general area. Women are also unironically into height and looks, and while guys aren't in a terrible spot if they have one and not the other, if they have neither, they are essentially born wizards.
Overcoming a porn addiction is also a tremendous mountain to climb, and I'm speaking from an embarrassing amount of experience. The "just do X bro" approach only works if you can pass as a normie, and generally most people in these threads on IST dot org don't pass.
stay off the porn, keep jacking off. semen retention causes more problems than it solves
I actually don't get horny as often but when I do get horny I fricking tear it up. I now only beat off once a week compared to damn near daily before, but I was quite vanilla before. I caved and bought a pocket pussy and seesaw between wanting to be raped by a small woman's feet and choking a prostitute while piledriving her and I just sit in sad silence for 15mins after I realize what I've done. BUT I have the best sleep of my life afterwards.
Yeah lifting made me get into bbws with comically huge breasts.
Think like Cassie0pia at the minimum, and LexxxiLuxe at the maximum.
Once my weight surpassed 225 I left those two behind for Randalin, schnataa, himi, 3d girls, and morphs. Beware.
I just quit while I was ahead.
I deleted all my porn, and am abstaining from masturbation indefinitely at this point.
I still hope I can get a short stack like Cassie0pia for myself.
>schnataa
Yes, she's very well built too my brother.
No, I stick to women of European ancestry.
Once I got fit I started talking to women. I then quickly lost interest in women
Since hoping trt I am attracted to black girls and the other day a horse pussy thread gave me a boner. I think literally anything with natural xx chromosomes could get a rise out of me.
Pre tren: dainty blonde haired trad wife looking angels
Post tren: tatted up pawgs with thunder thighs and fat breasts, race irrelevant. The trashier the better
I still stick to my own race since I’m not a coomer lol
You’re aren’t a lifter either
Pre lift was Into Hispanics with giant breasts, now I want a smaller girl who loves me unconditionally and also I hate myself more than I could ever love a woman.
>He faps to pixels on a screen and not to women that want to frick him, mostly because the latter doesn't exist and the former is abundant
NGMI
I come in checking the cuties, I go out checking the ladies...