Drop sneed oils right now

For the sake of your own fitness and health
Look at this shit, and tell me you still want this poison inside your body https://youtu.be/Cfk2IXlZdbI

  1. 2 months ago
    Ketoschizo

    Haha yaaas fellow keto queen you tell them

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Just eat your sneed oils and shut up, goy

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      goyboy grindset

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >not eating industrial waste
      >keto

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >keto
      Seed oils are keto, numbnuts. Keto's about carbs.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >keto

        Yeah yeah you retards, play dumb.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >keto

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You can avoid sneed oils and goyslop on any diet.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      seed oils are keto lol, it's carnivore that you're thinking about (which happens to be compatible with keto)
      you just outed yourself as a mad vegan lmfao, fucking cringe

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    then enjoy your increased sun tolerance and priase the sun

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Reported for antisemitism and extremely low quality post.

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  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >all seed oils are the same as industrial canola oil
    Look at this basic and simple process instead https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDVXPc7U1cI

    I understand you want to believe in fairytales though. Swear off oils and one day you'll get pegged by a pegasus just the way you've been praying.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Mmmmm yummy euricic acid thanks winnie the pooh. I'm not a car so I don't need oil though.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      still too much PUFA, even worse when you heat it

      avoid the cold pressed ones too

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Fair, but heavily processed sneed oils are the by far most common, and used for all goyslop

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The only good thing about industrially refined rapeseed/canola oil was that they removed most of the erucic acid. Cold pressed is quite possible worse in this instance.
      https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7026177/
      >An inappropriate diet, particularly excessive consumption of dietary fats and oils, may have a major negative impact on beta-cell function and cause type 2 diabetes mellitus.
      >A composition with 50% of the very long-chain unsaturated FFA erucic acid caused high toxicity with concomitant peroxisomal H2O2 production.
      Pic related

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7026177/
        That's not a particularly high quality study anon. They grew cells in a petri dish with 50% erucic acid as their food source. This is comparable to "X kills cancer cells in a petri dish." Not particularly useful or meaningful. Extrapolating to the entire human body by immersing cells in a substance is barely better than speculation.
        In parts of china that favor rapeseed oil/caiziyou the erucic acid is still generally under 30%, and almost always in the 8-10% range. (still several times higher than US allows for import)

        As for the pic, remember that this oil has been used for centuries in china. I'd be curious to see the study it comes from, my bet is there are confounding factors like average chinese calorie intake skyrocketing in recent decades vs even the calorie intake from the 90s. Or the drastic rise in both sugar and dairy-product consumption.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          The only good thing about industrially refined rapeseed/canola oil was that they removed most of the erucic acid. Cold pressed is quite possible worse in this instance.
          https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7026177/
          >An inappropriate diet, particularly excessive consumption of dietary fats and oils, may have a major negative impact on beta-cell function and cause type 2 diabetes mellitus.
          >A composition with 50% of the very long-chain unsaturated FFA erucic acid caused high toxicity with concomitant peroxisomal H2O2 production.
          Pic related

          You're all such massive gays with your gay studies which cannot be reproduced if they tried
          Just eat natural foods, avoid overly processed foods, and you're good to go

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I'm the sneed oil defender, my cooking oils are olive and butter and I cook all of my own food.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Seed oils are processed food

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Right, but you said there was NO DATA that erucic acid was harmful to humans. Turns out you were full of shit.
          You're ignoring the part where all the other oil formations were nowhere near as toxic to the cells as the erucidlc acid, so it's doing something to those beta cells that the other fatty acids aren't doing.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            In human cells cultured in a petri dish and in humans aren't the same thing, I'm sorry that's hard for you. Your study is speculation of systemic effects based on an extremely contrived scenario. No one is saying you should swim in erucic acid or get 50% of your daily calories from erucic acid, and those two things are the only way to make something as comparable to the experimental conditions as possible.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Why are you ignoring my point?
              Only erucic acid elicited acutely toxic effects on beta cells. Even palmitic acid wasn't as bad. All the MCT formulations weren't as bad. Erucic acid stood out amongst all the oil formulations tested.
              You've changed your tone a lot since claiming
              >"there's no data that erucic acid is bad for human health"
              You've very quickly switched from defending it's consumption at up to 40% of mustard seed oil used in India to
              >so what it, it doesn't matter, that isn't good data, people don't even eat that much erucid acid it doesn't matter
              40% erucic acid mustard oil isn't a lot?
              We don't NEED to consume ANY at all so why are you getting upset at people pointing this out?
              It had NO benefits to health, and we have direct laboratory evidence of specific mechanisms of harm. It wouldn't be ethical to feed high concentrations of erucid acid to human subjects, so in vitro is as good as we can get. Just give up bro.
              I will NOT eat the erucid acid, and I suspect you won't from now on either.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >We don't NEED to consume ANY at all so why are you getting upset at people pointing this out
                I'm not upset with people choosing what they want to eat. I'm annoyed with people being irrational and giving into conspiratorial thinking. I do not care if you or anyone else chooses to eat them or not. As I said myself, I use olive oil and butter in my own cooking and cook my own food.
                >It had NO benefits to health
                I do not dispute this
                >and we have direct laboratory evidence of specific mechanisms of harm
                There may be genuine harm, but this study isn't a smoking gun even if you want it to be. More research is required.
                Using your logic everyone should switch to corn oil immediately as it was better than all the other plant oils and butter.
                >It wouldn't be ethical to feed high concentrations of erucid acid to human subjects,
                You missed the point on India. We don't need to do this in a study, there are already popluations that have high erucic acid intake. They could be studied directly without intervention. Any changes to their diet would likely lower their erucic acid intake, and that could be used as an experiment to determine health outcomes.

                Don't want seed oils? Don't eat them. I'm going to keep arguing against irrational anons who want to imagine the world is out to get them.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                This study is proof enough to avoid any oil with erucid acid based on the precautionary principle alone. Other fats and oils are widely and cheaply available.
                I'll leave you with this
                https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4935697/
                >India has rapidly become a “diabetes capital” of the world, despite maintaining high rates of under-nutrition. Indians develop diabetes at younger age and at lower body weights than other populations

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I won't tell you that you have to or should consume erucic acid. I do not find the study particularly convincing, but as I'm effectively a non-consumer myself it's a moot point.
                >https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4935697/
                Like I said to the anon with the diabetes in china chart: mustard seed oil has been consumed in India for centuries. Rising rates of diabetes would indicate there is something new going on or added; confounding factors. Trying to pin a new development from recent decades to something that's been in the diet for centuries at the minimum is sloppy.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Rising rates of diabetes would indicate there is something new going on or added; confounding factors. Trying to pin a new development from recent decades to something that's been in the diet for centuries at the minimum is sloppy.
                Sure. India, like the rest of the world, is becoming more sedentary and receiving greater access to refined sugars and sugary sodas. But its also becoming an older society as life expectancy increases and people live longer, and the risk of diabetes increases substantially with age.
                But its interesting that despite having a younger population than many comparable countries and having lower obesity rates with comparable countries, India still has one of the worst diabetes rates in the world.
                They are starting to live more like the West, except they still consume a lot of mustard oil from their traditional cooking and they have worse diabetes rates despite not being as fat as the West.
                Trying to handwave away a dietary factor that is virtually exclusive to India, with strong laboratory evidence that this dietary factor can contribute towards diabetes, as having absolutely nothing to do with India's particularly bad diabetes rates isn't sloppy, it's dishonest.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You're speculating. You might be right and if so I'll eat my yarmulke, but this requires actual research.
                Obesity on its own is sufficient to explain T2D in many populations. Does the mustard seed oil contribue? Maybe, but we can't say for sure without actual research.
                Incidentally, there is a North/South divide in India with much more diabetes in the south which favors ghee. The north of the country uses much more mustard seed oil and has lower diabetes rates. You do see northern spikes in diabetes generally in the vicinity of cities, but spikes in diabetes in south india are located near cities too. More research would be required to conclude, otherwise I could just as easily say ghee gives the beetus.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >much more diabetes in the south which favors ghee
                wtf ketomorons, you lied to me

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                WRONG ghee and dairy products are used primarily in the north, and pressed oils in the south.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Wtf cicomorons, you lied to me. Thank god I was about to break my fast seed oil cakes with artificial chocolate flavorings to counteract all the animal fats I'm eating.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Wrong and easily something you could have googled. India's ministry of consumer affairs directly contradicts you
                >https://consumeraffairs.nic.in/sites/default/files/file-uploads/ctocpas/Mustard%20Oil-11.pdf
                South does use a lot of ghee, but also uses coconut oil and sesame oil.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                what if the beetus is caused by something different altogether? like sugar consumption?
                but as far as I know, south india eats a lot of fried food

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >This study is proof enough to avoid any oil with erucid acid based on the precautionary principle alone.
                The government has already applied the precautionary principle:
                >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erucic_acid#Health_effects
                >Food-grade rapeseed oil is regulated to a maximum of 2% erucic acid by weight in the US and 2% in the EU

                >Other fats and oils are widely and cheaply available.
                Like saturated fats, which have been shown to cause heart disease?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Good thing making it only 2% magically negates all the bad side effects right?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Cope.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Like saturated fats, which have been shown to cause heart disease?
                Except they haven't.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                have a nice day.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Post hr. I use butter and lard and eat ribeyes 4 days a week.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Based. I cook exclusively with beef tallow/dripping. Maybe a little butter if I'm frying mushrooms. Lots of whole fat milk + cheese too.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Based. I cook exclusively with beef tallow/dripping. Maybe a little butter if I'm frying mushrooms. Lots of whole fat milk + cheese too.

                >I have a low heart rate, therefore saturated fat is healthy
                Are you really this fucking retarded? It's not like LDL cholesterol will fuck your arteries up in a single week. This is on the level of the "I'm fat but my health markers are fine (right now)" HAES cope.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I'm lean, I have a low RHR and i have a high VO2 max. I run a 5.5 minute mile and a 21 minute 5k. My blood pressure was in the ideal range for my age/sex the last time it was measured.
                Cope more.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Your argument is inherently retarded because the same argument coming from the other side would not be able to convince you. Like, if some seed-oil maxxer posted his heart rate, would that convince you that seed oils are healthy long-term?

                Btw your stats are actually pathetic for someone who likes boasting so much. Back when I was into running, I was also able to run a 21 minute 5K, except I was a 20-25% bf fatass lmao.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Not that anon, but low RHR and high VO2 max don't mean your cholesterol is in order. 50 year olds with good athletic performance still drop dead from heart attacks. Get a blood test for cholesterol and make sure you're good. If the numbers there are good then don't worry about it.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >cholesterol bad

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Dietary cholesterol isn't the same as serum cholestorol. Way to miss the point entirely and think you're a smart little boy.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah actual meat is what is causing disruption not processed foods filled with garbage.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Being intentionally obtuse on the internet is fun, but I'm pretty sure kids aren't supposed to be on 4chins

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                We're both advocating eating beef tallow and butter over processed garbage. You're the one simping for big goyslop.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I'm the one saying health is individual and you should get your cholesterol levels checked instead of assuming things are fine because you convinced yourself the latest fad diet really really works this time.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I guess eating actual real food is a fad diet now. Having a sub 50 resting bpm is a meme... Fuck I guess I should stop baking my own bread and grinding my own sausages and go eat this stuff.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Why get defensive when a simple blood test can show if you're on track for CVD or not?
                I haven't said to eat anything processed, you're putting words in my mouth. All I said was serum cholesterol should be checked and that things like RHR aren't the be-all-end-all of health.

                Manage your feelings like a big boy.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I really do not need to when I walk 10 miles a day on average, drink a gallon of water a day, and sauna 5 days a week on top of resistence training and avoiding processed foods. Would be a complete waste of money.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You do you, anon. I can't make you and I wouldn't bother trying if I could. Some people who are fit and active their whole lives and up dropping dead of unexpected heart attacks. There is a genetic component to this and you won't know if that's you unless you get checked. Doesn't mean you have to, doesn't mean you are going to die young at all either. It does mean there's an open question if you'll be around as long as you expect (barring car accidents, shootings, etc).

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >a simple blood test can show if you're on track for CVD or not
                Not exactly, no. The only way to know if your cholesterol is bad is to actually have it put through a centrifuge and analyzed based on particle size. That's not a basic thing that every doctor will do. In addition, you would need to do ultrasound imaging of the arteries to look for inflammation and damage to know if those bad cholesterol molecules will get stuck in those places and build up.

                Here's a talk explaining what I mean when I say "bad cholesterol" just to be clear: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXKJaQeteE0

                Not all LDL is bad and the LDL that is bad is made that way by glycation, which is caused by persistent elevated blood glucose levels (the glucose then damages the LDL and makes it bad). The idea that a basic total cholesterol test is a clear indication of CVD risk is a ludicrously outdated idea.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Don't forget that glycated LDL is also subject to damage from oxidative stress caused by eating oxidized byproducts of sneed oils. There's a test for that too- oxLDL

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I actually didn't know that, but that's fascinating to learn. I knew there was a correlation between increased seed oil consumption and increased CVD, but wondered what the connection would be, and that makes perfect sense.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                sneed oils break down into oxidized byproducts which have been scientifically proven to damage LDL and cause oxidative stress in humans. And they do this at room temp.
                polyunsaturated fats are not appropriate for human consumption in the quantities that we consume them today.
                Any ancestral diet whether it was red meat or coconuts is 1-2% of daily calories from PUFA maximum. Because that's the amount you'll get with real foods.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Cholesterol doesn’t cause heart attacks. Atherosclerosis is caused by high blood sugar, the cholesterol is just there to repair the damage. Your entire body is made out of cholesterol, every cell in your body is wrapped in a lipid bilayer of cholesterol. Cholesterol is also the building block of vital hormones like test, so low cholesterol leads to low test like in every vegan. The cholesterol is in your blood because your body wants it to be there. Wanting low blood cholesterol is based on bad science pushed by pharmaceutical companies and goyslop producers.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                There are two different kinds of LDL cholesterol, and only one of them is harmful as it forms plaque in blood vessels. This is reliably predictive of CVD and even some causes of erectile dysfunction.
                Dietary cholesterol is completely fine, high HDL is objectively a good thing, but LDL is more complicated and hand-waving your bad understanding of cellular biology with wishful thinking doesn't change reality.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Lmao he still believes dietary cholesterol is bad. What year do you think it is, Karen?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Seven Countries Study has been widely debunked. Learn your history, retard.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                This is a prime example of ‘pilpul’ watch as he tries to backpedal and gaslight and ignore the anon’s point.

                Slowly I began to hate them.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >It had NO benefits to health
                The claimed benefit of seed oils is higher smoke point than olive oil, which supposedly makes them produce less carcinogens when frying.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                As this thread's dedicated sneed-oil defender, not even I accept this line of reasoning. I appreciate you bringing it up, but as a rule seed oils are less stable at higher temperatures than for example olive oil. The only real issue to high-heat cooking with olive oil is the destruction antioxidants, the oil itself is actually incredibly stable all the way up to smoke.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                As this thread's dedicated sneed-oil defender, not even I accept this line of reasoning. I appreciate you bringing it up, but as a rule seed oils are less stable at higher temperatures than for example olive oil. The only real issue to high-heat cooking with olive oil is the destruction antioxidants, the oil itself is actually incredibly stable all the way up to smoke.

                sneed oils have a high smoke point, but they are very reactive at room temp to oxygen because of the double bonds on the end of the fatty acid chain. So they become oxidized before they even hit the store shelf. These oxidized byproducts have been studied and in the 60s it was scientifically proven that they damage LDL particles.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      thought it was gonna be this video

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        thought that was gonna be this video

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >everything cooked or deepfried in seed oil, literally dripping with seed oil
        what a fucking nightmare

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Except that the West has no tradition of making seed oils for food so there's likely zero or almost zero possibility to buy a product like this.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I'm already being accused of shilling, it's available online and you can find it if you want but there's no need unless you're trying to mimic an exact flavor of authentic chinese food you had on a trip there.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      BBC POSTER

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      cute and wholesome
      i want to rape her

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Cute, but it changes nothing. Ancestrally, we would have rarely eaten seeds, and you simply can't get the quantity of fats present in even one tbsp of canola oil from just eating seeds in a normal diet.
      This is still a processed oil containing high levels of polyunsaturated fat, which contribute to higher levels of PUFA in human diets than ever in history.
      We have always been right around 1-2% linoleic acid no matter what the ancestral diet was (plants or meat). Nowadays people are at 8-14% and it fucking shows.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      still nasty compare to butter or olive oil

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Gross what the fuck is that shit

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Not sure why they're bad tbh but I've started trying to avoid them and they're in so much shit, crazy

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    imagine cooking your food with the industrialized version of gutter oil
    >just use butter or olive oil like a normal fucking person

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >olive oil
      >not gutter oil
      stop shill posting.
      olive oil is made almost exactly the same.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >olive oil is made almost exactly the same
        Olive oil isn't a seed oil, its a fruit oil. It's virtually all cold pressed, not fractionally distillated.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          America is the primary source of Olive Oil piracy, and Cold Pressed is a meaningless and archaic term put on bottles like "100%" to trick you into believing you are getting a quality product. You are not buying real Olive Oil in America.

          https://www.realfoodfakefood.com/

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I'm not American, I'm YUROP 🙂
            My supermarket is full of artisanal greek, Italian and Spanish olive oil brands

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Nonetheless, "Cold Pressed" is still a meaningless archaic term put onto bottles to trick you.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Prove it

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Read the book I linked, Real Food, Fake Food by Larry Olmsted.

                http://libgen.rs/book/index.php?md5=B52C8A7E74B8042F7436A674A9E88CFA

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Nonetheless, "Cold Pressed" is still a meaningless archaic term put onto bottles to trick you.
                Wrong
                >“The indication ‘first cold pressing’ may appear only for extra virgin or virgin olive oils obtained at a temperature below 27°C from a first mechanical pressing of the olive paste by a traditional extraction system using hydraulic presses,” the European Union wrote in its marketing standards legislation for olive oil.
                >“The indication ‘cold extraction’ may appear only for extra virgin or virgin olive oils obtained at a temperature below 27°C by percolation or centrifugation of the olive paste.”
                These terms are legally protected in the EU. Cold pressed may only be used to refer to traditionally extracted olive oil, not centrifuge-spun oils.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Prove it

                Not that anon but just use common sense. It's like "clean coal" or "low emission" - it's still doing the bad thing and it's still gonna hurt you.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Where I live all extra virgin olive oils are cold pressed, and if you want to pay an extra you can even get the oil from the first press wich has a bit more residue but it’s more flavorful.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >I'm not American, I'm YUROP 🙂
              Olive oil mafia operates from italy, so you are fucked either way.
              don't act smug about it, makes you look eve more retarded when you posture in superiority while being so ignorant.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              same brother, it sure is a easy life

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Other than the beef prices I guess

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                true, i would love to eat steak more often

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Raw materials like butter and beef are cheap in the US but you cannot find real bread or sausages or even lard without going way out of your way. You basically just have to buy large cuts of animals like pork belly and brisket and then grind and render that fat into lard and tallow. Our lard is bleached and hydrogenated.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                One thing we do right in Ireland. Quality beef and dairy and we get decent oil from the meds as well.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Retard
        Olive and avocado oil, the only oils you need, are both made from simply pressing the oil out of the fruits

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        except one comes from 5000000 tiny seeds and one comes from a fleshy oily fruit you fuckin moron

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I will fucking beat you to death with my barbell you bitch

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Lard, tallow, duck fat, or butter. Nothing else. Humans are not meant to eat oils from plants which is why health has gone down the shitter

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Plant-based oils have been in human diets for thousands of years. If you were remotely correct then we'd observe that populations subsisting primarily on animal fats are healthier and live longer than plant-oil populations.

      Remind me what were the life expectancies of a traditional Inuit? All animal fats, about half daily calorie intake. They're known for being healthy and living a long time right?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, Eskimos are pretty damn healthy. They have kids who switch from traditional diet to sneed oils and suddenly they have lower life expectancy and all these health issues. I'm glad you brought this point up because it's only in the last generation or two we see this happening in their population and there are still many mainly older Eskimos who follow the diet they are supposed to eat still alive. Not saying I'd want to live off the shit they eat but my people grew up on a different diet. Maybe it's contrarian internet bullshit but the placebo effect has me feeling much better.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        them japs from wherever the fuck that got fanously studied with a mad life expectancy who mostly ate seafood and pork before their diets got westernised

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    lmao, mention sneedoils once and the fucking JIDF is hot on the case.
    really makes you think huh,
    Butter only Chads rise up.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      At least the thread is still up.
      The thread about making anons aware of goyslop being poisonous was deleted, even though it's 100% on topic (as avoiding it improves fitness and health). Really weird how ~~*jannies*~~ don't do anything about the endless /r9k/ posting here, but whenever somebody points out the dangers of eating goyslop they delete it almost instantly.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        yeah, putting goyslop or any form of it like g()ysl()p, g0ysl0p or g_ysl_p and g*ysl*p in the OP makes the thread auto sage, this is the same thing that happened when s(=)yium became a thing
        Yids really dont want the truth to reach the general public which is why there are so many oil shills ITT and why they try to clean any mention of goyslop, it just means that the term goyslop is right on the money if they react so extremely to it.

        • 2 months ago
          Fuck the Globohomo

          4ching being policed of all places to avoid g$$yslob discussions
          just let that sink in. things seem to be even worse than the schizos expected.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah it couldnt possibly be that peoplefind it incredibly obnoxious when 4chancel tourists insert garden gnomes into literally any conversation

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    And while you're at it, drop the goyslop too

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Olive oil is the best. Italy, Spain, and Greece have the longest lifespans and healthiest populations in Europe, and they all prefer olive oil to butter.
    India has a pathetically short lifespan, and Indians prefer butter to oil.
    Hong Kong and Japan have very long lifespans, and they prefer seed (sesame) oils over butter.

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I was convinced that link was going to lead to that YouTube channel which promises "what I've learned" but it turns out all they've learned is confirmation bias.

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Remember that it's not as simple as just eating lard and butter now. Most cattle is fed garbage, including seed oils and it's in the fat now. Make sure to buy local grass fed dairy products and if that's not an option try to get more of your fat from coconut oil.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Even butter itself still ends up having canola oil supplemented into it for god knows what reason. At this point you are going to need your own dairy just to avoid this shit. While I like the idea fucking impossible to get the bug people to leave you alone.

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    This thread is making me hungry

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Sorry rabbi, I won't eat sneed oils no matter how aggresively you may push them. Love me olive oil (extra virgin like your sister before she met me) and butter for me. Thanks.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why would you fuck a garden gnome though?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Khazar milkers

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    that's not even the oil

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Consuming oils extracted with toxic solvents and originally used as fuel or lubricants is indeed a surreal thing. You'd think once we are past XIX-XX famines and in the age of prosperity, we'd go back to natural foods. But oh well.

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    the only seed oil i use for cooking is sesame because it has a distinct taste you can't really get anywhere else. luckily it's strong enough that you only need a little bit of it.

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You're all wrong. Look up terrain theory. Southerners are always fatter compared to Northerners because of the climate. As global warming increases the more climates become more equatorial and humanity as a whole will become obese.

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >My sneed.....MY OIL

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I like sesame oil too much to give it up, it tastes good and is used in a lot of food I make.

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Post body

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    recently made my own healthy(er) mayo, it was easy and super worth it.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Gib recipie

  23. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Please take them.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You WILL eat the goyslop
      You WILL consume sneed oils
      You WILL take the goymeds
      You WILL take three boosters a year for a cold

      • 2 months ago
        Fuck the Globohomo

        You WILL eat ze bugs

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous
    • 2 months ago
      Fuck the Globohomo

      >being jidf
      >promoting ((pharma*~~ poison
      you seriously need to step up your game. you suck, and so do your employers lol.

  24. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    So what oils should i use? Olive and avocado, is there any neutral one I could use for baking / sweet food, I don’t think olive or avocado oil would fit fell if the food isn’t savoury.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Butter
      Clarified butter
      Tallow
      Lard

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Is coconut oil fine? I bake a carrot cake once in a while for a cheat meal and that requires neutral oil. Peanut oil?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Ask yourself why you, not a car, need to consume oil.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Because I like to have cake once in a while, and I like shit not sticking to the surface of my frying pan and burning. What do you suggest I would put in a cake I eat like one every two months, don’t act like you never have sweets

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            just use vegetable oil, a little bit isn't going to kill you

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Look at baking recipe books from a century ago. Animals fats were used instead of seed oils.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >don’t act like you never have sweets
            I literally never have sweets

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Because I like to have cake once in a while
            Ngmi
            >I like shit not sticking to the surface of my frying pan and burning
            That's what clarified butter and fat is for. Use lard instead of hydrogenated shortening next time you make a disgusting boxed cake mix. Grotesque. I have hated cake my entire life and asked for dark chocolate for my birthday at age 7.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous
          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Lard, you can also buy pork fat and render your own for cheaper and better than store bought. It’s really easy and you can do it with a crockpot if you want. Just slowly melt the fat and then ladle the melted fat into a mason jar, I usually strain it.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          because fats are essential macro-nutrients?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Coconut oil or palm oil are good for baking. I've even made Mayo with coconut oil and tastes pretty good.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Butter
      Clarified butter
      Tallow
      Lard

      These and coconut oil. I think people are now incorrectly suHispanicious of coconut oil because industry shills are muddying the water by grouping it with seed oils and saying "vegetable oils like coconut oil are very healthy"

  25. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    i apply olive oil to my foreskin every night it's very healthy

  26. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >states issue worthy of discussion
    >posts absolute retarded argument for his stance

    one would think that regular exercising would grant some clarity of mind for people visiting this board.
    Therefore OP does not lift.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >showing how heavily processed sneed oils are is not a good argument
      Retard

  27. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Midwits be like 'oh the government and corporations would never lie to me to make a buck'

  28. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Don't be fooled by ketoschizos latest attempt to explain away why eating more fat doesn't make anyone thin.
    https://www.the-nutrivore.com/post/a-comprehensive-rebuttal-to-seed-oil-sophistry

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >every criticism of plant-based slop is keto
      Sure thing, vegan.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Seed oil schizo posting is. All your talking points come from Chris Knobbe's presentation about it that was posted to Low Carb Down Under. Another notable talking point provider about it is Nina Teicholz. Later those talking points were reurgiated by What I Learned, another keto youtuber.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Chris Knobbe was arguing against the low-carb theory. I guess you're not familiar with alternative views being presented at a conference. You must be more accustommed to left-wing gatherings (e.g. vegan) where they keep out all dissenting views.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Was arguing against it how?

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              His whole presentation is trying to argue that it's not carbs causing all the problems low-carbers blame on carbs.

              Basically he says the same type of shit that vegans and CICO promoters say. He conflates whole-food carbs with powdered or liquified processed carbs. That's one of the biggest problems with his ideas. I think I've also seen him cite a dishonest Stephan Guyenet graph on sugar consumption.

              Anyway Chris Knobbe is correct mostly. Seed oils are poison. He's just wrong about what role carbs play.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yet seed oil schizoing and those exact talking points are confined to keto diet industry ad yes those talking points precede Knobbe. Synergizes well with their meat industry ties and provides handy scapegoat why keto doesn't work.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I just ate some bread dipped in olive oil and I'll eat some more bread with goat cheese before bed. What the fuck are you on about? Not eating literal industrial byproduct should not be confined to a single diet and you're fucking retarded for defending megacorps. have a nice day

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >industrial byproduct
                What's the main product they get from growing rapeseed etc oil plants in ketolard seed oil schizo narrative? Just curious.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >if I industrialize pig shit production then it won't be farming byproduct anymore and this eligible for consumption

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Not him but

                >The oil has many non-food uses and, like basedbean oil, is often used interchangeably with non-renewable petroleum-based oils in products,[31] including industrial lubricants, biodiesel, candles, lipsticks, and newspaper inks, depending on the price on the spot market.

                "byproduct" might not be the right word. I think it is basically a lubricant that they decided to market humans as a food. It definitely started out being used in industry before it was marketed as a food.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You can have vegetable oils on a ketogenic diet. I don't recommend it, but it will be successful for weight loss.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah I know you fucks swing around like pendulum on many topics including oil. Not long ago they were marketed as the key to miraculously succesfull keto. They'll make a comeback in five years agaiin.

  29. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >intro
    >canola oil is the healthiest cooking oil
    >4 sec later
    >we use bleach to clean it and using 400 steps to get 1 liter of it
    >went through many steps possible from piss to wax to solid to liquid to gas to rock to train smoke to coal

  30. 2 months ago
    Ketoschizoschizo

    I hate ketoschizo
    Every thread I don't like is made by ketoschizo
    Ketoschizo made me weak and fat
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    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      kek

      top parody

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        The guy in your pic has been sperging out with the name "Ketoschizo" for the past week or so. He has gotten very few (You)s. I feel bad for him. I wasn't sure if anyone else even noticed he was doing it.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Great work gumshoe, I'll save this pic for future threads of this retard.

  31. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You do follow the advice of experts, right? Seed oils are actually GOOD for you

  32. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >canola oil is the healthiest cooking oil
    >the wax is sold as vegetable shortening
    Can’t believe I used to eat that shit

  33. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    why do people even defend sneed oils? it's not a traditional product or anything, it's not something humans have consumed until very recently when they found a way to make them edible.
    >vegans
    there's olive oil, avocado oil...shit that's been used for millenia

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >traditional product or anything
      Seed oils have been eaten for millenia in india and for centuries in china and the the middle east / west-asia (sesame oil ranges from persia to east-asia, though olive oil was more common persia regardless).
      There's no need to eat them but they're not evil bad magical goo either.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I'll make an exception for sesame, you're right. But it can't be used for cooking.
        Sunflower and canola is poison though

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Seed oils have been eaten for millenia in india and for centuries in china and the the middle east / west-asia
        No wonder they haven't accomplished anything for a long time.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          this lol

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        traditional eastern oils weren't dissolved using hexane and then required to be chemically bleached, deodorized, and winterized to make them palatable

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Correct, but I never said that anyway. I said seed oils are actually traditionally foods in some places.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            unfortunately that's how the vast majority are produced now even if they were traditional in some cultures

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              That’s also true. Higher quality seed oils are hard to get if you’re not in one of those areas and they’d be more expensive to import/ship than better options without nearly as many PUFAs per serving available locally.
              To get a real high quality seed oil is hard and expensive in a lot of the world and there isn’t a reason to bother outside autistic-precision trying to recreate a dish as exactly as possible.

  34. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Just checked the ingredients of store bought white bread. Can someone explain why does it need to have canola oil and sunflower oil?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      They're cheaper than butter
      If you're gonna eat bread make it yourself, it'll be way better anyway.
      You can't avoid the sneed oils really unless you read every label or just buy whole foods period.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >white bread
        >butter
        ????????

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          yeah, they call it butter bread

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      They're cheap oils that increase the fat content (thereby decreasing water content) to provide the right consistency and resist molding.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >resist molding
        The idea that bread would mold before it goes rock hard is really gross in the first place.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          That's part of what all the extra fat content does, too. When the moisture comes more from fat than water it doesn't evaporate.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Here is how to make quick rise soft white sandwich bread
      4 cups bread flour
      1 1/4th cup water
      4 tbsp butter
      1.5tsp active dry yeast
      1.5tsp salt
      2 tbsp sugar

      Mix that up and let it rise for 2 hours then smush it into a nonstick bread pan and let it rise another hour. Then bake it for 30 minutes at 350F.

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