WRONG. You people get too hung up about form. Use huge weight and cheat the row like crazy, like a Kroc row. The point is to cheat to let you back do the work even when your arms cannot. Too many people waste their time in this middle ground of back exercises where they’re too worried about form to lift some heavy ass weight
What the heck is going on here?
If you had shown me only the left pic I would swear it was actually a woman on steroids.
But you're telling me it's really a dude.. who later transitioned?
>ego lift rows >arms end up taking over the movement >does jack shit for your back
The secret is to not ego lift
How the FRICK do I do these properly? I always wind up feeling it in my front delts, I'm not sure how I'm even fricking them up, no matter what angle I do them at, supported or unsupported
It sounds moronic but I found it to be a mind muscle connection thing. You want to actively be thinking about your lats and upper back controlling the weight the entire time, even on the eccentric. You don't want the dumbbell to be pulling you downward on the eccentric. But if you just cant get them to work for you, swap out for another row. There are like a dozen of them that all work well.
What the heck is going on here?
If you had shown me only the left pic I would swear it was actually a woman on steroids.
But you're telling me it's really a dude.. who later transitioned?
you're doing them wrong. It's amazing how many times a day I have to post this particular piece of advice, but you have to learn scapular retraction and work on scapular mobility. This is not an arm exercise but people pull with their arms, which is why they don't feel it in their back. >do lots of work on scapular mobility, eg scap pushups, scap pullups, etc (look up as many as you can). Take them seriously and do before every workout >tuck elbow, don't flare >don't pull DB straight up, pull it to your hip in an arcing motion with your elbow remaining stacked above your hand >good mental cue is not to "pull", but rather drive your elbow back and up >have the motion be you retracting your scap, "crunching" your back, and broadening your chest simultaneously >don't let your shoulder roll forward at any point in the motion. keep it locked back and down. Don't shrug as you do the rep
> The point is to cheat to let you back do the work even when your arms cannot.
Your back isn't working if you're cheating. You're likely relying on mostly leg drive at that point for momentum if your arms are also tired. You're just wasting time doing shit form and you wonder why your back doesn't grow.
>biceps are weaker than back >by using biceps instead of back I lift more weight >lifting more weight leads to less hypertrophy than lifting less weight through the same rom for the same reps
Kys
you're doing them wrong. It's amazing how many times a day I have to post this particular piece of advice, but you have to learn scapular retraction and work on scapular mobility. This is not an arm exercise but people pull with their arms, which is why they don't feel it in their back. >do lots of work on scapular mobility, eg scap pushups, scap pullups, etc (look up as many as you can). Take them seriously and do before every workout >tuck elbow, don't flare >don't pull DB straight up, pull it to your hip in an arcing motion with your elbow remaining stacked above your hand >good mental cue is not to "pull", but rather drive your elbow back and up >have the motion be you retracting your scap, "crunching" your back, and broadening your chest simultaneously >don't let your shoulder roll forward at any point in the motion. keep it locked back and down. Don't shrug as you do the rep
liar
>turns you into the cute fit girl you always wanted
>ego lift rows
>arms end up taking over the movement
>does jack shit for your back
The secret is to not ego lift
WRONG. You people get too hung up about form. Use huge weight and cheat the row like crazy, like a Kroc row. The point is to cheat to let you back do the work even when your arms cannot. Too many people waste their time in this middle ground of back exercises where they’re too worried about form to lift some heavy ass weight
>Kroc row
YWNBAW
What the heck is going on here?
If you had shown me only the left pic I would swear it was actually a woman on steroids.
But you're telling me it's really a dude.. who later transitioned?
dysmorphia + a roid-ravaged endocrine system
How the FRICK do I do these properly? I always wind up feeling it in my front delts, I'm not sure how I'm even fricking them up, no matter what angle I do them at, supported or unsupported
It sounds moronic but I found it to be a mind muscle connection thing. You want to actively be thinking about your lats and upper back controlling the weight the entire time, even on the eccentric. You don't want the dumbbell to be pulling you downward on the eccentric. But if you just cant get them to work for you, swap out for another row. There are like a dozen of them that all work well.
That's Kroc, he transitioned.
I'll give these a shot, thanks brehs
> The point is to cheat to let you back do the work even when your arms cannot.
Your back isn't working if you're cheating. You're likely relying on mostly leg drive at that point for momentum if your arms are also tired. You're just wasting time doing shit form and you wonder why your back doesn't grow.
ok stay small then
you are so fricking small lmfao
>biceps are weaker than back
>by using biceps instead of back I lift more weight
>lifting more weight leads to less hypertrophy than lifting less weight through the same rom for the same reps
Kys
>using less weight means using more biceps
DYEL
just do it with the cable machine idiots
>Im projecting my shitty connection
cool stuff OP now Post back
you're doing them wrong. It's amazing how many times a day I have to post this particular piece of advice, but you have to learn scapular retraction and work on scapular mobility. This is not an arm exercise but people pull with their arms, which is why they don't feel it in their back.
>do lots of work on scapular mobility, eg scap pushups, scap pullups, etc (look up as many as you can). Take them seriously and do before every workout
>tuck elbow, don't flare
>don't pull DB straight up, pull it to your hip in an arcing motion with your elbow remaining stacked above your hand
>good mental cue is not to "pull", but rather drive your elbow back and up
>have the motion be you retracting your scap, "crunching" your back, and broadening your chest simultaneously
>don't let your shoulder roll forward at any point in the motion. keep it locked back and down. Don't shrug as you do the rep