Enclomiphene citrate

Is it better to take 6mg everyday, or 25mg twice a week? I'm seeing conflicting info.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4155868/
according to this, 25mg everyday gave the best results, but I'd have to go through 2 expensive bottles a month and at that cost I may as well pin test with HCG.

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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    higher dose = more side effects

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      on the other hand, I've seen claims that a higher dose taken a few days apart could potentially allow estrogen to still interact with the receptors between the doses while the enclo spikes could be enough to steadily increase test production, but it's bullshit if enclo needs to build up in the body to start working and the study I posted seems to confirm it

      All these gays looking for shortcuts. If you’re not pinning, don’t take anything. Just eat right, sleep, and lift. Fricking morons, I bet you’re like 21 or something too

      mid thirties actually and I wouldn't need it if it wasn't for a decade of codeine abuse (and alcohol, but I gave that up already), which is known to completely obliterate test. I used to be horny all the time but now I feel a desire to cum every few days at best. also, I'm on SARMs currently, didn't feel any supresson from them over 4 weeks in, but decided not to risk it anymore.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        codeine has nothing to do with it. I take it with my gf and we have sex on it. It's your shitty lifestyle making you feel like shit

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I have no problem with having sex on codeine, it even causes spontaneous long erections without any horniness for some reason, I'm talking about the effect of long term opioid use on test levels, which is well known to be catastrophic
          https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2974597/

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Just bought a years worth of test for $150, that’s like 2 bottles of enclo lol

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    All these gays looking for shortcuts. If you’re not pinning, don’t take anything. Just eat right, sleep, and lift. Fricking morons, I bet you’re like 21 or something too

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's not even shortcuts, these morons overpay for untested shit that gives shit results.
      Mind boggling moronation.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Not really, had great strenght gains on rad140, no sides at all. gained 1 plate in every lift in 1.5 months. had no shrunken testes, and with only using enclo during cycle and the 2 weeks after i ended up with a slightly higher test post cycle.

        Also kept all the gains from it, i was lucky, other morons killed their kidneys / liver from this chemical kek

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        clomid, which includes enclomiphene, was patented in the 50s and clomiphene or enclomiphene have been used off label and clinically tested for its testosterone increasing properties for decades, you fricking moron. and bringing borderline hypogonadal participants to basically 1000 ng/dL, without shutting down FSH or LH and their balls intact, is literally the opposite of not working

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why do you gays not just take test? How is it more "natty" (as if it matters) to take something that indirectly kind of increases test instead of just actually taking what you want to improve

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I literally wrote it in the OP. because you'd have to take hcg with it to avoid atrophying your balls and turning into a troony who needs constant hrt for life to be male, which is expensive af and, if not bought at a pharmacy, often contains 10% of the claimed amount at best. and it's not even certain if long term trt with hcg still doesn't have any negative effects on test production, as it's just kinda like artificial fsh and you hpg axis is still constantly blocked

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        and you think shady sarm websites are better?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >I literally wrote it in the OP. because you'd have to take hcg with it to avoid atrophying your balls and turning into a troony who needs constant hrt for life to be male
        Complete fricking bollocks, you have no clue what you are talking about.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    My doctor has me on 50mg enclomiphene every other day and 1mg Anastrozole twice a week. My test levels have gone from 763 to 1408 and is currently sitting at 1343. Side effects are minor or don't exist. I donate blood every couple of months and get regular bloodwork every three months.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >doctor
      You're at trt clinic lmao. No doctor would let you have test that high

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >le heckin doctorino has to be le good doctor!
        kek doctors have literally been executed for being serial killers and tons of them get their licenses revoked for prescribing their buddies opiates in exchange for opiate prescriptions themselves

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >1mg Anastrozole twice a week
      isn't it very high and more of a dose used when blasting test, not with the aromatization of naturally produced test?

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    enclomiphene fricked with my eyes
    and i didnt feel much different
    not really worth it
    maybe as pct

    just go to a trt clinic if you have low test
    injecting test is the best form of trt
    everything else is ass
    enclomiphene included

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >enclomiphene fricked with my eyes
      I had a slightly blurred vision the second day in the morning, but it disappeared the next day
      >just go to a trt clinic if you have low test
      no such thing in my country, it was a b***h to get a fin prescription with norwood 4, getting test is almost impossible and you can forget about hcg

      and you think shady sarm websites are better?

      getting diluted sarms just means I'm gonna have less gains, getting 10%, or even 0%, which is like half of them, means my balls are gonna shrink and atrophy. hcg is particularly bad. also, there are sites which test popular brands and there are consistently decent ones, hcg is almost universally bad and even the companies which make spotless sarms and roids, produce hcg which has 10% of the declared amount

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >getting diluted sarms just means I'm gonna have less gains
        you realize sarms shut down your test production just as well as test right?
        honestly if you dont know that you shouldnt touch any peds

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >you realize sarms shut down your test production just as well as test right?
          not even remotely close. it takes weeks of supraclinical doses of ostarine to even begin any supression, with some people not experiencing any, and it's much easier to recover from, the PCT is a breeze, or a small dose of enclo throughout the cycle is enough to make it a complete non issue, while even miniscule doses of exogenous test, leading to lower than the natural test levels, can quickly shut down the natural production

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You’re better off doing 200mcg of Sermorelin/mod-grf once a day
    fully effective and pharma grade costs about $1 a day

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    This exactly same shit of the pic (from Rec.Chem) brought my total test from 556 to 1250 in just 4 weeks at 6,25 ml every other day. Estradiol from 23 to 60.
    Very powerful

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Hoy do you titrate ?
      It's not injected right ?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Sublingual then i swallow it, they send it you with an oral syringe.
        I just started straight.
        Many people take 12,5 EOD, some even kickstart with thee day at 25 but IMHO this is too much

        Also forgot to add i'm a 34 years old boomer

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I'm the same age, I'm about to try but was worried about starting dosage, thanks. Would probably go 6eod and up to 12 if needed.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        https://www.omnicalculator.com/health/drug-half-life

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    OP, post breasts

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Anyone ever used any of these?

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    enclo only has a 6 hour half life so you should dose it ED at the bare minimum, why the hell would you dose it twice a week? taking it twice a day is better for reaching stable serum concentrations

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >why the hell would you dose it twice a week?
      seems kinda stupid to me too and I'm using 6.25mg ed so far, but I've seen a lot of claims that, precisely because of the short half life, using it every few days reduces low estro sides and is still enough to boost test, e.g.

      ?t=350
      seems like bullshit, because, from what I've seen so far, it needs to accumulate first and takes some time to start working

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