>ends the why do you lift debate once and for all Posted on March 10, 2023 by Anonymous >ends the “why do you lift” debate once and for all
tf is ASD?
I think loneliness manifests when
a) you care what too much what others think about you
and b) you aren't comfortable with yourself
c) not enough social interaction.
We have a deep rooted psychological need for social interaction whether you like it or not. For instance, babies that have all of their basic needs taken care of (food, water, shelter) but don't get any social interaction will die. We saw this happen during the Nazis human experiments and the Yugoslav wars of the 90s.
>not enough social interaction
I agree with the anon you replied to but disagree with this one
I was a waiter for years and sucked at socializing because I was stuck in my shell due to being ugly and dyel
My guy you still had passive interactions that kept you sane, you WILL DIE if you are left alone for extended periods of time alone in a room without any distractions there is evidence that proves this
>For instance, babies that have all of their basic needs taken care of (food, water, shelter) but don't get any social interaction will die
Are you a baby?
Are you a moron?
Unironically true, I've been observing this in myself.
>Have lots of buddies and friends in highschool
>Decide to go to local community college instead of uni to save money
>commuter school where no one wants to interact outside of class
>No friends from classes, not a single one from highschool even checks in on me
Isolating yourself just corrodes your soul, I don't even want to try to make friends anymore because I'm just a depressed loser and can't find enjoyment in any social activities besides lifting. Make sure to get your daily dose of friendship or it will turn you into a goblin.
happened to me too, social life dried up after high school
i play video games with old friends every few weeks, and we get together to hang out maybe once or twice a year
i also have a group of schizobros who i shitpost with
other than that i'm grinding
I get plenty of social interaction at work. Sure, I'm a little over 40 and my coworkers are in their late 20's and early 30's but bullshitting with them is enough social interaction for me for the day. then I go home, chill, vidya and or here then wake up and go to the gym at 5 am, work at 7 and do it all over again. It'd be nice to find a nice woman but that's not happening. I'm sure if I went out more I'd meet someone but I hardly drink anymore and don't have anyone to go with me anyway. Could be better but it's not a horrible life at all.
That's some bullshit. A baby can survive without social interaction if all it's needs are taken care of
they experimented on monkeys long time ago with that theory. taking baby monkey away from mother and mechanically providing base needs (food/water)
the baby monkey usually died or turned out super fucked up mentally
same thing when they conducted similar studies with rats
Maybe if you're the exception, but if you're like the vast majority of people a lack of platonic and romantic relationships will do that too.
I can confirm you are 100% wrong.
As I care little what others think of me and I like myself a lot.
That doesn't mean I don't day dream of having some nice interactions and memorable moments with people.
>We have a deep rooted psychological need for social interaction whether you like it or not.
The closest thing to social interaction I have these days is posting into the void of the internet. If not for that, I would have zero human interaction.
But some gay will tell me that feeling lonely is not a natural response to such as situation.
Or worse yet, they have social life and don't feel lonely so I'm pathetic for feeling lonely, because they don't, why should I.
It's quite an onslaught on your psyche to be utterly alone.
The only way these people would understand if for the next 10 years they would have zero contact with another human being in any way.
Only then, could they talk to me about "lol dude you shouldn't feel lonely"
>I can confirm you are 100% wrong.
>As I care little what others think of me and I like myself a lot.
>That doesn't mean I don't day dream of having some nice interactions and memorable moments with people.
Lmao you put up a fascade of pretending not to care what other people think because you're insecure, care deeply and are afraid of getting hurt.
I know this because you;re here, posting into the void about how you hate being alone.
Why don't you just admit that you wish you were wanted and accepted by other people and you aren't, and it's not your choice and you don't know what to do in order to be liked by others and you're not likeable enough to do your own thing and have people follow you.
>Lmao you put up a fascade of pretending not to care what other people think because you're insecure, care deeply and are afraid of getting hurt.
You are projecting.
>I know this because you;re here, posting into the void about how you hate being alone.
Hate being alone completely or some of the time. Because I like being alone and doing my stuff majority of the time, but not all of the time, forever.
If this is somehow a controversial statement to you, then you really have a weak position to defend.
>Why don't you just admit that you wish you were wanted and accepted by other people and you aren't,
That entirely depends the kind of people we are talking about. If they share similar values to me, then they essentially hold my viewpoints, and their judgement of me, is similar to me. And I care about my own opinion of my actions and state.
> you don't know what to do in order to be liked by others
I actually know exactly what I need to do to be liked by others. I can see the "act" I have to put on to win favor with anybody, I simply choose not to.
Partially because it goes against my own values to be manipulative, but more importantly, if people like me for that, it's a extremely hollow victory. They don't like the real me, they like a projection I put out. Maybe the more sociologically inclined anons would think they hit the jackpot to get the things they want, such as money, or pussy out of other people.
But it really doesn't register for me as something I'd want.
>and you're not likeable enough to do your own thing and have people follow you.
Mass appeal is meaningless to me. I care only to appeal to select few that hold my values on life.
Myself being the most consistent one, and anybody I can find that holds those values.
If a single person in the world would like me, genuinely like me, the real me. I'd be perfectly content with that, as long as they themselves are somebody I respect and admire.
Sadly I'm niche as it gets.
>You are projecting
I have a screencap just for you
Not going to read your cope. You described qualities that don't fit me and then proceeded to attack your own made up idea.
Thus you are not interacting with the actual person that is me, but a made up thing in your mind, purely for the convenience and ease of your own engagement.
Frankly it comes of so incredibly bad faith, that I am almost convinced that any further discussion with you is going to be entirely unproductive.
Though I do find it funny that people call you out on this so often you had to make a cope pic. Don't bother replying(I know you will).
Not him, but you sound pretentious as fuck and insufferable. No wonder you're miserable all the time and have no friends.
Tired of the IST pseuds from reddit
You're an incel with an ego hiding behind a computer screen.
What's there to cope about?
Ohh.. now I'm on his side..
Being an incel is a choice, it's basically the mark of a retard.
>involuntary is voluntary
Words don't mean anything anymore with you "people"
>Not going to read your cope
you read every word, and you're seething
>posts chudface memes with wall of text
damn bro i really hope for your sake that you're being paid to be here
>The only way these people would understand if for the next 10 years they would have zero contact with another human being in any way.
remember when a bunch of people an heroed two weeks into covid LMAO
I assumed it was made up.
>Yes I know that the average sperg on IST is not much better
I actually assume the average ISTner is a worse, a lot worse actually.
The guy has made it to 40, has a job, works out, is still holding it together.
People can easily off themselves before that age, not have a job, no hobbies, be in complete mental breakdown mode or either crying at small shit because of repressed grief or shutting down completely due to despair and barely functioning.
The most peope make fun of him is grim.
But I guess nobody wants to admit it like it is, that yeah, things are pretty grim and a lot of people live a life of quiet desperation, heroically holding on for something that will likely never come.
I remember that video of some 60 or 80 year old, saying how they never experienced a relationship.
My first thought is how impressive it is that they are still alive, despite that.
B and C for me.
The problem with this type of vid, and why I stopped watching /LULZ/-style videos to begin with, is because these people hyperfocus on the subtle misfortunes littered throughout their life. It's like they've totally reprogrammed their reticular activation system to seek out the "ah! there it is! THAT'S why I'm single/alone/incel!" that reaffirms their beliefs. There's another guy I watch on YouTube named Downhill Donnely Miller (he had a Tosh.O appearance as well) who can't stop droning on and on about why he's in therapy and why no one wants to be with him. Sure he has his shortcomings, but the real thing holding these specific individuals back aren't their quirks, it's their military-grade autistic obsession with their unfortunate circumstances. Hell, Donnely now believes that eating large peppers and skiing down a slope while screaming will somehow fix his depression and anxiety. If I hadn't watched him for years I would almost find it funny.
If are a man, you are not entiteld to sincere, unconditional affection. That's the reality of it. If you really "need" it, make yourself useful somehow, get money, buy nice things and accept the fake "love" that it will bring you without thinking too much about it, but always maintan a certain degree of emotional distance; you can allow yourself to become a puppet.
Otherwise, move on, stop thinking about it, do things that make you feel good and gradually make yourself at peace with the idea that you simply won't ever be loved. It will become more tolerable once you stop chasing pipe dreams and consuming copium.
Suicide is also a valid option, no matter what people tell you, you are entitled to end your misery whenever you feel like it has become too much.
I prefer deluding myself that a woman exists out there that will love me for my personality and not because of the money I provide for her.
Naturally, she only exists in my fantasy and dreams, but I need the cope.
>If are a man, you are not entiteld to sincere, unconditional affection
get a cat if you don't want to walk a dog daily otherwise get a dog, if you live in a apartment where you can't have cat or dog then get a hamster
I’m 35, 194cm tall at 110kg bw. Nordic.
Wife that I love and she loves me. We have sex pretty much every single day.
A 2.5 yr old kid that I can’t stop being proud of every day. She goes to the toilet alone.
A good job, house on the country side with no people around, a car, Audi a6 allroad, that I enjoy driving everyday to work and home.
I still want to end it all most days. Yesterday was the first day in 2 months where I felt good.
What makes you want to end it? Is there a particular reason or is just happens with no apparent reason?
No reason, I just want to drive off the road into a tree sometimes. A dear friend of mine took his own life and it ruined pretty much everyone around him so that keeps me from doing it.
This, I miss my e93. It fit my gym bag perfectly.
This is true to a lot of people. Im happy that if I ended up losing my job I can just sell my cars and still live here without much burden. Then again, it’s not hard finding work. Im just saying that with everything I have, I can still feel like complete shit.
Gör det inte, mannnen. Det du känner är helt naturligt med tanke på hur världen och speciellt Sverige ser ut idag. Dina barn behöver dig som en stark förebild för att växa upp till bra personer som kan bygga upp Sverige igen.
Tack för de fina orden. Betyder mycket. En dag i taget.
We don't really know one another so I can't give you some kind of specific life advice that'd help you, but you've got kids that helps. I'd say get another one, perhaps a boy so in the years to come you're not growing up in a house with either 2 or 3 women, you'll go insane.
Maybe start taking fish oil aiming to get at least 2g of EPA every day.
I get that feel too, I don't have any of that stuff but I still just generally want to blow my brains out. I dunno why, ever since I was like 10 its just been a thing that'll crop up
It’s the Audi
You're under 20
You're under 180cm tall
You have brown eyes and brown or black hair
You have never kissed a girl or had sex
Your relatives don't even let you near their children
You have never held a job
You don't own a car you take the bus
You live in an inner city apartment with your mother and she cries herself to sleep at night while you play World of Warcraft until the early hours of the morning
Verification not required.
I'm happy for this poster, but I want others to realize that you don't always know how things are really going.
This reminds me of a story I read years ago where this guy feels bad as his neighbors have all of these nice things, cars, boat, fancy furniture.....then one day they're kicked out of the house as it turns out everything was on credit.
(anyway anon I hope shit picks up for you, I'm your age and haven't got a wife n' kids or an audi)
Everyone, even the most normie of NPCs can feel it in their bones that society is falling apart at the seams and not being in the slightest prepared for it subconsciously creates anxiety and depression. It's going to be a rough couple of centuries, boys.
Eh, everyone alive right now will be aight
Normoids is just self hating crazOIDS
So his opinion is worthless.
>I still want to end it all most days
Weak genes, typical suicidal scandicuck NPC. "Oh no, my life is basically perfect, but lacks that spark, so I want to hang myself"
Then there's me. Brown slav, under 30, 5'11 king of manlets, after rough breakup, fucking my fwb sometimes, no kids, don't own property, economy shitbox car, and life is pretty good.
>So his opinion is worthless.
worse than that, he is worthless. that is both how he feels and how society has deemed him.
Worthless brown opinions.
Don't cry too hard scandicuck, or you might about killing yourself again later.
it was over from the start
It's not over, life is good.
all slabs are honorary morons
ahaha what the fuck is a brown slav? you a turk bosniak subhuman? noz zica srebrenica ima da ti jebem decu u familiji niza raso odvratna
I'm tan and I look like an arab, even though I did 23andme and it turned out I'm ~90% central european.
How's it going in serbia?
German girls like arabs. Go to Germany
So you're fat
And as a result low test, that's why he wants to kill himself.
You're Norwegian, aren't you?
>Had a child Instead of peaked in his career
>Be depressed and want to suduko
Hmm this really gets your noggin joggin
fix your diet fat ass
Could be diet or some physical issue go get checked maybe
TRT might help
I don't feel lonely. Maybe living at home and hanging out with my parents isn't so bad after all.
Been harrassed by a whole town for about a half a year now.
FUCK people my dude.
Stop touching kids, anon.
17 is legal
I'm 28 and recently single again. Second serious relationship that didn't work out because I couldn't imagine spending the next 50 years with a girl I resented through no fault of her own.
How do I avoid becoming like him?
I've been diagnosed with autism for over two decades, so has my father, and his grandfather, never had any issues with women at any point in my life, but I do struggle to maintain relationships long term, initial interest is never an issue though.
I don't even mask my quirks, but I look good and it makes people overlook everything, and think of me as a himbo rather than a weirdo.
Preoccupation with feelings of loneliness and wanting to feel reciprocated or be a part of something is just because you had a frosty or no relationship at all with your family growing up. Sorry it happened to you but dwelling on it is not going to make the present situation any better. The past has already happened and you need to let it go and try to make the present situation as right as you can without thinking about the past or even the future. You're a grown man now. I shouldn't have to tell you that there's no serendipitous plot twist like in the Friends tv show where you move out into a new apartment and suddenly you have a family.
Pick a career you can envision yourself working hard at, then focus on getting really good at it, and then build a lifestyle around that occupation. Don't worry about things that have already happened or what will happen, just strive to be as honest and forthright as you can. You can fix this crumbling house and still have time to enjoy living in it if you start working hard now.
>just dont care about it
Wow anon, so insightful.
But he lifts and makes music, you have to do something if you don't want to just die
i like being alone
I JUST WANT ONE (1) GIRLFRIEND GOD DAMN IT FOR FUCK'S SAKE WHY DO THEY ALWAYS JUST EITHER STRAIGHT UP REJECT ME OR PUT ME IN THE FRIENDZONE AND PLAY WITH MY FEELINGS
Because it is our time to take their rights in the coming incel uprising
Kys retard moron
>the amount of normie gayry itt
How many of you interact with normies on a regular basis? They are utter gutter cunts that have 0 self awareness. Yes I know that the average sperg on IST is not much better but that is to be expected here. Normies are just as fucked in the head as the average anon but expect you to play their social games. Been there, done that. It is far more enjoyable to learn to enjoy your own company and do your own shit than be on "dat grindset" and sell your soul.
Lifting is great for longevity and healthspan regardless of your motivations.
I lift for the exact opposite reason.
If I lift hard enough, maybe I can induce a heart attack and ACK on the spot.
Surprise chance at freedom makes my day brighter.
Jesus Christ I got a feeling this is the equivalent of the instagram attention whore but just as a man…
Is A Small Dick really that bad?