Eye health

Sup bros. I've heard glasses actually make your eyes more lazy making them worse over thme.
Anecdotally, I've heard from a friend of a friend that his eye sight was getting worse and worse until he stopped wearing glasses for six months and now he pretty much has 20/20 vision.
I've been wearing glasses and they're a looks killer for sure but that's not what I really care about currently.

Has anyone improved their eye sight? Any eye exercises you've done?

  1. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I lost the image explaining it but basically yes you can train your eye muscles and improve vision.
    qrd is to wear an eyepatch and switch eyes every 30 minutes. Do it a few hours a day

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Interesting. If you can find it, please let me know

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Does the process involve not wearing glasses as well?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      What's this???

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >train your eye muscles
      Holy shit are you retarded

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        I lost the image explaining it but basically yes you can train your eye muscles and improve vision.
        qrd is to wear an eyepatch and switch eyes every 30 minutes. Do it a few hours a day

        It works for lazy eyes but not significant near sightedness. Near sighted people have eye balls which have grown too long due to genetics and/or lack of dopamine, sun exposure in children might prevent it somewhat.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      People perceive their eyes as getting worse on account of glasses giving them a 'frame' of reference for how their eyesight is meant to be coupled with the fact that their eyesight naturally gets worse over time.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >train your eye muscles
      >eye muscles
      That's not what causes short sightedness retardo.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >train your eye muscles
        Holy shit are you retarded

        It's the eye being misshapen correct? Why couldn't proper use of eye muscles reshape it back into its original form then?

  2. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    My vision has stayed exactly the same since I was 13 (24 now) by NOT wearing my glasses as much as possible. Only used them to read what's on the blackboard in class, and while driving

  3. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >wearing glasses makes your vision worst
    If that was the case, my vision wouldn’t have went from relatively normal to minus 4 in a year when I was a kid

  4. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >train your eye muscles
    >eye muscles
    That's not what causes short sightedness retardo.

    it's not a meme, you can outright cure astigmatism/starbursting/light smearing and drastically improve distance vision with this. this IS the cause of astigmatism and most distance vision issues that arent actual eye damage.

    if you're just a little worse than 20/20 then you'll definitely notice.

    your brain and eyes (your eyes are part of the brain) are made to be scanning the woods for predators and prey while moving, not sitting 2 feet away from a screen staring at one spot all day moving a foot to the left or right to focus on something

  5. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    The cause of nearsightedness is lead deficiency.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous
  6. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Endmyopia movement seem to have nailed it down to
    >+1 diopter is possible first 2-3 months
    >pace drops down to +1 to +1.5 diopter a year after that
    >You might want +1 glasses or +0.5 lenses to migrate from -1 to 0
    Once you hit 50+ and your lens become stiff, its a different issue.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      I suppose it could be correct, but it will only work when you are no longer lead deficient. Also you need to regulary work in dim light, from the data it seems that emmetropization doesn't work in light that is too bright, or possibly when the pupils are constricted.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >emmetropization doesn't work in light that is too bright
        True, but daylight is weaker than that. The only exceptions being skiing, sand and water.

        Another caveat is that Emmetropia is very poorly understood, so far. If we solve it, it should be possible to remove myopia development in newborns.
        Flexibility of the eye is also poorly understood, same is true of floaters.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          It doesn't need to be really understood, we only need to add lead back into food.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Why not just lead eyedrops?
            Below some consumption range it won't cause brain damage.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              Muslims use eye powder.
              It doesn't cause brain damage. The world is on the brink of collapse because its deficiency causes schizophrenia.

  7. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    guys, I want to do eye bleaching. You know, where they put a substance on the white of your eyes to make it more white. Is it safe and did someone already do it?

  8. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >stop wearing glasses
    >my cornea magically remolds itself
    Thanks anon

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Nope.
      It requires technique. Simple instinctive techniques, but techniques none the less.

      You force the eye to do the lense focus motion, somehow. Either the large twitchy one, or the small relaxed one.
      As a result, you force the eye to move the focus. This permanently deforms the lens in that direction, just slightly.
      The caveat is that past -6 your eyes can't focus enough to tell which direction its changing in, meaning its not possible to fix it at -6 without a middle step to reach a reasonable clarity.
      It also seem to take time, where advocates of the technique seem to conclude that you start off with +1 diopter first 2-3 months, and then land in +1 diopter per year.

      Initial calibration of the eye in childhood is poorly understood, but there seem to be a genetic factor.
      The proposed theory behind myopia is that "perfectly clear" at near vision ranges is just at the thresholds where the eye still want to see more. So when you get glasses you get them at the right range initially, but you keep leaning forward by instinct to see better despite almost crystal clear sharpness, which creates a feedback loop where myopia escalates due the lens changing shape.
      Hyperopia seem to be less prelevant, because you want some near vision to see what is directly in front and under you. So while focusing on far objects move you towards Hyperopia, its counteracted by all the work you do in <5-10m away from you.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >but there seem to be a genetic factor.
        None has ever been found. Even a hint of it. It's lead deficiency.
        Even the romans knew poor eyesight was somehow connected with drinking water and selected as soft water as possible despite modern claims to the contrary.
        Egyptians outright knew it was repated to lead and produced lead based medicine to prevent what is translated as "evil eye".

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >lead deficiency
          How? Lead is said to cause neurological damage and fuck up your kidneys

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            It's wrong. The way the brain works with lead is correct. Those who are deficient are delusional, and those who are not deficient naturally "can't understand" the schizo nonsense that they produce.
            Thebody doesn't confuse lead with calcium, but puts it into proteins wgere it belongs.
            Rome too (and possibly the bronze age civs before it when they switched from lead to iron) fell once they stopped consuming lead.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          It's wrong. The way the brain works with lead is correct. Those who are deficient are delusional, and those who are not deficient naturally "can't understand" the schizo nonsense that they produce.
          Thebody doesn't confuse lead with calcium, but puts it into proteins wgere it belongs.
          Rome too (and possibly the bronze age civs before it when they switched from lead to iron) fell once they stopped consuming lead.

          I am buying that microdoses of lead is beneficial.
          The arabic eye powder&eye shade seem to be a variant where correct source material leads to less eye infection, which is a possibility to the harshness of the sun and the sand grains.

          But overconsumption causes brain damage, and it already kinda do that by bypassing the blood barrier to the brain.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >But overconsumption causes brain damage, and it already kinda do that by bypassing the blood barrier to the brain.
            No it really doesn't. People in the 20th century were already getting deficient.
            The timing of lead consumption in Rome can be dated well enough to see that the decline came when its consumption CEASED.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Solidus from ~500CE, when lead consumption was near lowest.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              https://i.imgur.com/i2nIrms.png

              2nd century aureus for comparison.

              (both coins have the same diameter)

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous
          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            2nd century aureus for comparison.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              https://i.imgur.com/bZjGl07.jpg

              Solidus from ~500CE, when lead consumption was near lowest.

              I am not buying it, for the simple fact is that I like many others are aware of how coin making is done.
              Quality is all over the place, and any method to make better coins is usually a guild secret or taken to the grave by the various masters of the craft.

              That is also ignoring the fact the more uneven coin is made out of harder materials, as a result of Romans failing to understand inflation.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Both are gold, and the decline can be seen over time.
                Even the lastpaintings of Caravagio, who died with high lead levels in his bones, show no signs of neurological decline.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                https://i.imgur.com/fWdHitj.jpg

                https://i.imgur.com/EdnOFEt.jpg

                >But overconsumption causes brain damage, and it already kinda do that by bypassing the blood barrier to the brain.
                No it really doesn't. People in the 20th century were already getting deficient.
                The timing of lead consumption in Rome can be dated well enough to see that the decline came when its consumption CEASED.

                The thing is
                There is another argument to be made
                If you have 8 children, you can afford for 4-5 of them to suffer from lead poisoning.
                Is your argument true, or is it merely survivor bias?

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                No idea what it has to do with survivorship bias or the number of children. There are good reasons to believe tgat the evidence is simply wrong and the difference in brain functioning with and without lead was misinterpred as poisoning, instead of deficiency resulting in the disordered state.
                A similar decline that can be seen in the roman coins can be seen in modern art. 19th art, in comparison, when it was simplified it was simplified in an entirely different manner that preserved the visual coherence of the image.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                I think there are merits to your words.
                However there is yearly a death toll of 540,000 from lead poisoning, as the malleability of the material makes it excellent as a fundamental chemistry or building block for various processes. The Lead–crime hypothesis also seem to stand quite well.

                But I highly doubt the schinzo tale of Antediluvians faith or Apocalypticism .
                At the moment you are just picking cherry picked evidence and trying to force a narrative, without even trying to deal with the systems surrounding your evidence.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Your posts read very bot-ty.
                >However there is yearly a death toll of 540,000 from lead poisoning
                No idea what you're referring to, and it sounds, frankly, impossible. On the contrary there is likepy a million+ death toll from the type II diabetes thaf also results from the deficiency.
                >The Lead–crime hypothesis also seem to stand quite well.
                On the contrary, it stands on obviously cherry picked data.
                >But I highly doubt the schinzo tale of Antediluvians faith or Apocalypticism .
                No idea what you're referring to.
                >without even trying to deal with the systems surrounding your evidence.
                No idea what it's meant to mean.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >No idea what you're referring to.
                If you aren't literate enough to understand something so simple, you might lack the stilts needed to even debate.
                The belief of society & technology permanently degrading is abhorrent and belongs nowhere.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >The belief of society & technology permanently degrading is abhorrent and belongs nowhere.
                It isn't degrading permanently. It degrades when lead is absent.

  9. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    For what its worth, I have glasses, but its a mild prescription and I never wore them, and I got my eyes checked recently and theres been no worsening of my vision

    My sister on the other hand wore glasses and her prescription got worse and worse, until she got laser eye surgery as an adult

  10. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Op here. Thanks. I guess I'll be pirate maxxing for a while then.
    I wish he'd say if he wore glasses during this. I can only see a couple inches in front of me without them

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Nvm disregard. I read it more clearly. Gonna Kakashi mode for a month and report back

  11. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I stopped wearing glasses 2 years ago, except for driving because I don't want to kill anyone and I'm legally obligated to. I did notice my vision improving a lot in medium distances, but in the dark and long distances still can't see shit.

  12. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Should I do this all the time or like 1 set a day?

  13. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why not just get monthly lenses? I can't stand the feel of lenses on mt face also -6.50 vision, I doubt i'd make it across the road without visual aids.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      *can't stand glasses on my face

  14. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Last year I got a stronger perscription for my glasses, and since then I can't see shit without wearing them. Before getting these new stronger glasses, I could easily see without wearing my old ones.

    I got garden gnome'd. Will try covering my one eye with my hand (till the eye patch arrive) to see what happens

  15. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Fish oil+astaxanthin+blueberry extract+lutein/zeaxanthin+taurine

  16. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    There are 2 reasons your vision is bad. Young growing peoples eyeballs will grow wrong, either too long or too short for near or farsighted. You can't "train" them to grow back like some of these idiots believe it has nothing to do with your eye muscles.

    2nd reason is when you get old the muscle that accomodates your lens gets weaker and weaker. That's why old people often need reading glasses. This one you can actually train since it's a muscle. This does not apply to not being able to see far because your lens isn't flexed in that position, that's a result of the first reason above.

  17. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Focus on something in the distance every hour or so. Try to focus on things at different distances. If you can't see really far, go somewhere you can at least a few times away. Your eyes won't get better unless you use them.

  18. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    might as well try it honestly, I'm inside at the computer all the time. Nobody is gonna see me looking like a pirate at those times

  19. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    I'm going to the drug store RIGHT NOW and picking up an eyepatch. I've been wearing glasses with worsening vision all my life since I was 10 years old, was told I would be legally blind by the time I'm 20. I'm now 35, and though not quite legally blind, I can't read a few inches from my nose without my glasses.

    I WILL report back in a month. If this shit works, I'll smash my glasses with a hammer. Screencap this.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      godspeed!

      [...]

      If every broscience here was this simply explained... need this for meditation or brain training

  20. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Dude i can't see at 2 meters...

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      I can't see unless a couple inches away

  21. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Endmyopia, Jake Steiner read the info on the się watch some videos. Most important rules: reduce screentime, reduce close up reading in corrective glasses.basicially read books and scroll phonewithout glasses. You can make gains even when you work on front of a computer. You have to prepare yourself that you can reduce max 0,75-1 diopter a year. Start with buying yourself glasses for close up vision. Start with buying glasses with 1 diopter less than your prescription and use the glasses in front of computer and maybe for reading. I started with -5 and -5,5 and now i can see comfortably with -3,5 -4 .Buy glasses online on zenni they cost 9$ you dont have to buyallthe glasses with bluelight blockers. You should reduce by 0,25 at time.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >reduce screentime
      No need.
      Biggest obstacle is having a job where you are at various 5-10 meter distances all day.

  22. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    The only thing that is consistently proven to reduce incidence of myopia in early childhood lifestyle is increased time spent outdoors. Nobody really seems to know if it's the sunlight or the long distances (rather than looking at shit right in front of your face) but it would seem to me that the only answer is "go outside"

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's lead.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        meds. now.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >lead supplements
        You first bruv

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      I spent my entire childhood outside and I still have -4 now, the only one in my family aswell.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        -4 isn't that bad. You could be glasses free by 2024-2025.
        I just wish the damn recipe on Endmyopia's webpage or youtube videos wasn't cult tier.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Lol my brother who's 2 years yonger has perfect vision and we did everything together when we were kids

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