fatty here. why are they so intent on demoralizing people trying to get fit? is it really that unattainable?
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fatty here. why are they so intent on demoralizing people trying to get fit? is it really that unattainable?
Fat people are good for business. You buy more, rely on the medical industry more, obese people are better consumers.
>Fat people are good for business
100% this.
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the zac effron body from op's picrel is at most 2 years and 2 roid cycles away from anyone
well, anyone who isn't a fricking hamplanet currently.
then it'd take 3-4 years and some surgery for all the loose skin.
but for regular people who are willing to /fraud/, its ezpz
and yea, you do need to /fraud/ for it
unless you have god-tier genetics, are in your mid twenties with a decade of serious lifting behind you and are insanely disciplined with your diet
u srs?
u think op's pic needs roids?
looks like something that doesn't need roids, to me
like i said, with good genetics, youth, a long history of lifting and a very disciplined cut, its doable natty
not 100% because zac looks like he has the roid hardness, capped shoulders etc
but the numbers, pounds of lbm and bf% are attainable, if you satisfy the above conditions
or you can /fraud/ and then they're attainable easily within a couple years from nearly any starting point.
99 out of 100 ppl need roids to look like that.
This. ~~*They*~~, whoever ~~*they*~~ may be, make significantly more money off dependent people.
>if you keep busy with vidya and superhero movies, you won't get bored and focus on improving yourself
>if you get hooked on cheap, mass-produced food, you won't eat a healthy (cheaper) amount and you won't be trying to eat hard-to-produce food (lean beef, chicken, etc)
>if you can be made to feel good about being ugly, ~~*their*~~ sons will have an easier time outcompeting you sexually
They just want you fat, stupid and miserable.
didn't read, but the sensible take should be that actors like zac have their bodily health as a full time job with a staff to assist them reach their highest potential, they can spend all day jerking it in the gym under the guidance of a whole army of personal trainers while you're stuck at work, when you're picking up your kids he's eating a perfectly concocted meal prepped by proffesional chefs, when you're slaving away at the macaroni and cheese he's shooting up steroids under the guidance of the best doctors money can buy. when you run for your post dinner 40 minute run he's been on a threadmill for 3 hours already.
He literally attained it
He means 4u
It's not attainable natty in le 3 month transmoration or whatever bullshit he did. At least he's honest, which is better than frauding
It could be natty over many years depending on genetics
Hairy legs and shaved arms. It's just weird.
The cut, dryness, vascularity all combine to make it unattainable for most.
Even on gear this would be hard to maintain without really good habits.
Why not aim for something sustainable year round?
He said nothing wrong, that’s not even an accurate headline.
His point was that the amount of effort it took to stay at single digit body fat with zero water retention made him miserable because he was just drinking blended chicken breasts to get enough protein.
He never said it’s not attainable, he said it wasn’t worth the effort in his opinion to be at pro bodybuilder levels of leanness
actors have to get in certain shape within a matter of months. so he probably was on some crazy amount of drugs and worked out every day.
he was on roids to look that way dummy.
He was roiding. You will never be this lean and hard while natty.
>He was roiding.
No doubt. Actors that go through massive transformations are 100% using drugs to make it happen
>You will never be this lean and hard while natty
He's maybe 10% bf? And from the pic it looks like all of his mass is in the arms and back. His legs are twigs and don't look anywhere near as lean as his upper body so he might even be closer to 12%
With excellent fat distribution and targeted lifting, I think most teens can look like this by their mid 20s completely natty.
You're an idiot.
Explain how. His abs are painted on for Christ's sake. He's still fit but nowhere near what the picture wants you to think at first glance
Painted on like in 300 with make up to create contrast and shadows?
Because he's blatantly roided out. And you're a fricking moron who thinks "just a couple years of hard work will get you there!" and yet nobody except other roiders look like that.
With peak pump and Hollywood magic it COULD be natty, but probably isn't
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peak scott herman looked like this, i'd say it's natty achievable with the right genetics
He's not saying "don't try to be IST" he's saying "I'm a Hollywood celebrity who has a team of personal trainers and dietitians".
There's literally no reason to get that lean anyways. Hardly any athletes ever get that lean unless there are weight classes in their sport, and if you're already at 13-15% bodyfat, cutting lower isn't really gonna make you look more attractive.