Fit meals

salmon and veggie stir fry with a side of white rice

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >white rice
    I don’t get why ISTfags love this stuff. It’s literally empty calories, no nutrition at all, pure carbs.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      wrong. it's amazing how some of you retards can be so sure of yourself while being so obviously wrong.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        what nutrients does it have?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          the same as brown rice

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      you know there are skinny fags on this board here trying to bulk too?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You know literally any food can be used to bulk and 90% of that is more delicious than white rice?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          white rice is clean carbs

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >carbs aren't nutrition
      dyel spotted

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Carbs are nutrition

        Yeah but it's not unique nutrition. Like pick up a pizza, tah dah wow, omg the cheese has calcium and the tomato sauce is a vegetable with vitamin C, wow and look at all that protein in the sausage!!!

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This, rice is pretty useless, aside for s bulking food,I prefer oats or other grains like buckwheat they have way more nutrition and fiber.

      the same as brown rice

      Which are? Look it up lad, white rice is shite, the other grains in this world are far better and far more nutritious.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Vitamin B1, B2, Calcium, Sodium, Protein
        your move buckwheatfag

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I don't know how much B1 or B2 rice has but considering it a significant source of calcium, sodium, or protein is really silly.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >anon doesn't salt his rice
            >anon doesn't put calcium carbonate on his rice
            >anon forgot the bonito flakes entirely
            ??

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Thats besides the point. You argued that rice has no nutritional value. I proved you wrong. End of story. Eat shit and die.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Sorry, I'm not the person you were initially responding to. I also think he's wrong and stupid. White rice is way better a food than any grain.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Oh sorry. I got caught up in the heat of the moment.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              I’m not

              >anon doesn't salt his rice
              >anon doesn't put calcium carbonate on his rice
              >anon forgot the bonito flakes entirely
              ??

              I’m

              https://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/cereal-grains-and-pasta/5712/2
              https://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/cereal-grains-and-pasta/5681/2
              Buckwheat beats it in ever categories other than b6 thiamin and folate. While have more protein and fiber

              and

              This, rice is pretty useless, aside for s bulking food,I prefer oats or other grains like buckwheat they have way more nutrition and fiber.
              [...]
              Which are? Look it up lad, white rice is shite, the other grains in this world are far better and far more nutritious.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          https://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/cereal-grains-and-pasta/5712/2
          https://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/cereal-grains-and-pasta/5681/2
          Buckwheat beats it in ever categories other than b6 thiamin and folate. While have more protein and fiber

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            The protein from grains is not complete and therefore is useless. Not to mention grains have completely different amino acid profiles from us anyway.

            Fiber is again a meme, stop touting it like it's not. It's completely useless and can even be harmful. Fiber has 0 benefits (please feel free to try to prove me wrong by providing 1 specific benefit of fiber).

            You also aren't mentioning tannins, phytic acid, lectins, etc. which are all found in ginormous amounts in grains and not in white rice. Not only do those negate your "nutrients," they also have a myriad of other negative effects in the body.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >anon has never even heard of digestion before

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Would you care to explain your nonsensical position with a little more effort? I know you can do better. Are you trying to say that those compounds I mentioned just "disappear" in your digestive tract? Because that would be a pants-on-head retarded position.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Would you care to explain your nonsensical position with a little more effort?
                I'll tell you everything if you post a picture of your wrist with a timestamp.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >my wrist
                Damn anon that's pretty harsh considering what I already said.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Damn anon that's pretty harsh considering what I already said.
                Are you gonna do it or not?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Lad you realize our body can break down those amino acids and rebuild them into proteins, and that there are a limited amount of amino acids all things are created from and if you combine them you can get a complete amino acid profile, plus fiber has tons of benefits including reducing colon cancer, reducing depressive symptoms and feeding your very important guy micro biome giving you vitamins and reducing the likelyhood of IBS or other bowel diseases. You are spouting off a bunch of unfounded shit on here acting like you know what any of it means, but you just sound like a retard. There are grains better than rice, and you are obviously seething since you are trying to move goal posts and apply unrealistic expectations and fringe theories

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >fiber does all of these magical things I am providing no evidence of
                >you are spouting off unfounded shit
                The irony lol. Please provide 1 primary source for 1 of your claims. That shouldn't be very hard.

                You have no idea how digestion works if you think the proteins we eat don't matter because they all just get broken down and re-built. You have an elementary-grade level of digestion and you're trying to lecture others. Pathetic.

                This took me 5 seconds to find:
                https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26057229/
                >Toxic proteins in plants
                >Plants have evolved to synthesize a variety of noxious compounds to cope with unfavorable circumstances, among which a large group of toxic proteins that play a critical role in plant defense against predators and microbes.
                >Up to now, a wide range of harmful proteins have been discovered in different plants, including lectins...
                Blah blah blah common knowledge.

                By the way, oats are covered in Round-Up. But you won't even try to defend against that =).

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >You have an elementary-grade level of digestion
                lmao what does this even mean chang?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Nice, I love being proven right. Next time study a little more before trying to lecture other people. I'm glad I could have taught you something about the digestive system today.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I still don't understand what your ESL brain was trying to communicate with that mess of a sentence

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You keep on getting fooled by other people thinking they’re me, for proteins all you need is a complete amino acid profile to produce all the proteins you need. Their are 9 essential amino acids that you can get from multiple sources to give you a complete amino acid profile, this however does not detract that getting more amino acids will give our body more amino acids to produce protein and lead to more gains.
                Colorectal cancer
                https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6560290/#!po=8.53659
                Depression
                https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31750916/
                https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8264187/
                > Irritable bowel syndrome (IBS) is a common chronic gastrointestinal disorder. It is widely believed that IBS is caused by a deficient intake of dietary fiber
                https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5548066/#abstract-1title
                I also skimmed through your article and the “toxic” effects of these proteins and enzymes would be removed by cooking them as heating would denature the proteins, and rendering all that shit benign. I’ll give you the roundup thing, and is honestly good to know. So to sum it all up, aside from roundup you know very little to nothing about digestion and nutrition.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >these proteins and enzymes would be removed by cooking them as heating would denature the proteins
                Correct, heating denatures some % of some of those proteins. It doesn't magically remove them all. If you disagree, please find a source by looking up "heating anti-nutrients reduction pubmed" on your favorite search engine. I've done this multiple times before and I'm too lazy to do it again right now.

                I am going to look at one of your articles because I asked for 1.

                >Observational studies support associations between dietary fiber intake and depression and inflammation, but the potential mechanisms are poorly understood
                >This review examines evidence of the effects of dietary fiber on depression and inflammation and considers plausible mechanisms
                >A high-fiber diet potentially lowers inflammation
                >Further research into the link between dietary fiber intake and inflammation and depression is essential

                This isn't proof of anything. Your "source" says people who eat more fiber are less depressed. Yeah of course they are, because when you eat fruits + vegetables you are eating less processed shit in general.
                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthy_user_bias

                Observational claims are not proof of anything. Pic related. That's exactly what you've shown me.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Jesus you are a fag, moving the goal posts that much and ignoring all the other provided data, you much truly be seething right now getting btfo’d so bad. instead of waste time and continue to argue since you’re just gonna keep trying to weasel out of everything, post body you gay

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Name 1 thing I've weaseled out of. I have systematically dismantled your "fiber is good" claim and now you are angry. That's ok, cognitive dissonance is a really hard thing to handle. I hope you get better coping mechanisms for your own mental health.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Name 1 thing I've weaseled out of. I have systematically dismantled your "fiber is good" claim and now you are angry. That's ok, cognitive dissonance is a really hard thing to handle. I hope you get better coping mechanisms for your own mental health.

                By the way, I didn't ignore any of your data. I told you "1 article" and you gave me more than 1, so I picked randomly. If you want to specifically provide more data and not link dump random studies you don't know how to read (because you don't know what "epidemiology" means), I'd be happy to go through those, too.

                Before you do that, though, you should really read the "Healthy user bias" wikipedia article which I kindly linked. I don't want another meaningless "people who eat more fiber are more healthy!" article.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You are like pigeon m8, truly one of the greatest fags I’ve met on here, I provided multiple sources showing how good fiber is, regardless of health bias we can take notice of trends and associations, which only account for one of my articles posted, which I know you skimmed the others but are just being a slimy knit picky cunt choosing the weakest one to lay into. The current hypothesis of why fiber and gut bacteria are good for depression is because they produce serotonin which is a neurotransmitter that is highly associated with depression, I’m not going to provide any more sources since you failed to read the last ones, and I even took the time to read yours. This whole argument stemmed from there being better grains than rice which I have provided multiple reasons with citations backing up buckwheat being better which you then attempted to move the goal post on claiming the protein was useless, which i showed was not, the fiber was useless, which I showed multiple articles which show some of its many health benefits. You are a genuine gay, but you have not provided my most recent request of posting body

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                anon, nobody ever solved anything with a run-on sentence.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >multiple sources
                I chose 1 and dismantled it. If you don't understand how I did that I can't help you. I can link the Wikipedia article again though.
                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthy_user_bias
                >we can notice trends
                Yes, and trends aren't proof of anything. See picture.
                >skimmed the others
                I made very clear I did not read anything except the 1 about depression which I dismantled.
                >blah blah blah more unsourced nonsense
                >protein was useless fiber was useless
                I also mentioned pesticides & anti-nutrients, which you ignored, except you said thank you about mentioning Round-Up, which you didn't know about, so that was nice.

                Here are some studies about fiber and gut bacteria, which you seem to be interested in. They show fiber isn't necessary for a healthy and robust gut microbiome. Please enjoy and let me know if you want me to explain them.

                >Diet rapidly and reproducibly alters the human gut microbiome
                https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3957428/
                >0 fiber diet caused no change in alpha-diversity and an increase in beta-diversity.

                >Dietary fiber intervention on gut microbiota composition in healthy adults: a systematic review and meta-analysis
                https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29757343/
                >No differences in effect were found between fiber intervention and comparators for α-diversity, abundances of other prespecified bacteria, or other SCFA concentrations.
                >Dietary fiber intervention does not affect α-diversity

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Still haven’t posted body. That first study is shit, small sample size, poorly controlled and all it shows is guts microbes that do well ferment amino acids do better with meat rich diets and carb fermenters with plant rich. None of that shows anything about health or risk factors involved with those diets. Did you actually read your own sources. As far as all the other shit you said lol lmao. I’m not going to spoon feed you sources especially when it’s foundational biochemistry. Even though I think you did, I recommend skimming through those articles I posted before since I’m not going to read them to you as well. And trend are a good indicator of underlying mechanism, even if we down understand it yet. Also
                >proof
                lol

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >I won't actually argue anything because I've decided to defer to smarter men whose work I haven't read
                are you a literal baby?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >still hasn’t posted body
                Unlike you I actually at least skimmed through my sources instead of just posting a snip bit That you clearly did not even understand the implications of, but Im just tired of someone who refuses to read anything I’ve posted, but wants me to read their own shit they’ve posted which I have, and found it lacking every time

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                when did you even ask me to post my body lmao

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Three times, shows you pretty poor reading comprehension

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                quote the posts lol, this oughta be good.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                First at the end

                Jesus you are a fag, moving the goal posts that much and ignoring all the other provided data, you much truly be seething right now getting btfo’d so bad. instead of waste time and continue to argue since you’re just gonna keep trying to weasel out of everything, post body you gay

                Second at the end again

                You are like pigeon m8, truly one of the greatest fags I’ve met on here, I provided multiple sources showing how good fiber is, regardless of health bias we can take notice of trends and associations, which only account for one of my articles posted, which I know you skimmed the others but are just being a slimy knit picky cunt choosing the weakest one to lay into. The current hypothesis of why fiber and gut bacteria are good for depression is because they produce serotonin which is a neurotransmitter that is highly associated with depression, I’m not going to provide any more sources since you failed to read the last ones, and I even took the time to read yours. This whole argument stemmed from there being better grains than rice which I have provided multiple reasons with citations backing up buckwheat being better which you then attempted to move the goal post on claiming the protein was useless, which i showed was not, the fiber was useless, which I showed multiple articles which show some of its many health benefits. You are a genuine gay, but you have not provided my most recent request of posting body

                Third, first sentence

                Still haven’t posted body. That first study is shit, small sample size, poorly controlled and all it shows is guts microbes that do well ferment amino acids do better with meat rich diets and carb fermenters with plant rich. None of that shows anything about health or risk factors involved with those diets. Did you actually read your own sources. As far as all the other shit you said lol lmao. I’m not going to spoon feed you sources especially when it’s foundational biochemistry. Even though I think you did, I recommend skimming through those articles I posted before since I’m not going to read them to you as well. And trend are a good indicator of underlying mechanism, even if we down understand it yet. Also
                >proof
                lol

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                None are me lol

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Oh you’re the wrong anon disregard that the other is not posting body

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                ok i will

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Im just tired of someone who refuses to read anything I’ve posted
                You have to be trolling at this point. Or you are so tired from your digestive tract processing ridiculous amounts of unnecessary fiber that you can't keep your eyes straight to read. This is starting to get sad.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Lad you skimmed a single article, and disregarded the rest, I’m not going to read them for you, but I will ask again post body

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Yes I told you I would read 1 thing, so I did and then dismantled it thoroughly. I was very clear about what I would do and then I did exactly what I said I would do.

                Would you like me to read another article and tell you it's epidemiology and that's not proof of anything and link the healthy user bias article again?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I have asked you to read all of them, but you will find more goal posts to move at this point

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Please link your favorite one. I'm not going to spend 15 minutes reading epidemiology articles and then telling you "it's epidemiology, correlation is not causation." But I will spend 5 minutes doing that.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                ok but you have to link me your favorite album or I won't

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I don't listen to albums, but my girlfriend's favorite is Taylor Swift's Reputation.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Read which ever one you want I honestly have given up at helping you see reason at this point, you knowledge of biochemistry and biology seems very lacking

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, the person who knows that alpha-diversity, beta-diversity, and SCFA concentration is indicative of gut microbiome health has a lack of biology knowledge haha.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Knowing a single facet of a topic doesn’t make you knowledgeable

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >small sample size
                Hahaha the guy citing EPIDEMIOLOGY studies is using "sample size" to disregard perfectly valid studies. You have no idea what you're talking about and you're just throwing a tantrum now. By the way the guy calling you a baby is someone else (and he's doing that because you are throwing a tantrum).

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You didn’t even touch into my main argument you cunt, the small sample size is just the beginning, none of what you posted has any bearing on health or impact of what those gut microbes do

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >alpha diversity, beta diversity, and SCFA concentrations have nothing to do with the health of the gut biome
                Hahahaha this guy. Please keep it coming. You went from confused but curious to typing angrily and randomly. What other nonsense do you have to say? Also can you re-state your argument in 1 sentence?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I never even referenced the second article, the first one has shit sample size of a couple dozen and never touches on scfa from my skimming of it. I only read the first since that is tradition it seems, and no you can reread posts

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >"none of what you posted"
                >i only read the first article

                Knowing a single facet of a topic doesn’t make you knowledgeable

                >the entire function of the large intestine
                >a single facet of knowledge
                Ok, you're starting to become less funny and more belligerent and nonsensical in a sad way. I'm all done, especially since you didn't re-state your argument (you obviously have none). I would leave you with another silly correlation picture but I don't think you're getting the joke. Have a nice night.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, trends and associations are always correct and make the best science. You should never use your critical thinking and you should always trust the correlations scientists publish.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Trends can imply further underlying mechanism that aren’t fully understood, in that case we know that frauders have higher mortality rates and are individuals that work out longer in the gym. The trend gave us a clue of where to look since there was obviously something going on, which was exploding hearts due to PED use

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, and the mechanism behind people who eat more fiber are healthier is the healthy user bias. AKA people who eat fiber are eating fruits and vegetables and people who don't are eating processed shit and sugar. Has nothing to do with fiber.

                It's like saying "people who eat green food are healthier than people who don't eat green food." That's not because of the color green. This is really simple stuff.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Post body

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I though according to you, fruits and veggies were unhealthy cause of anti nutrients and shit

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                What are you talking about? I love fruits and vegetables are obviously healthier than processed foods and refined sugars.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                But I thought all those things have anti nutrients which you said weren’t good for you I’m kinda having trouble following you

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Anti-nutrients chelate nutrients and make them unable to be digested. If you look at the study I just posted above, one example they talk about is tannins, which precipitate proteins.

                This means, if you were eating a spinach with a ridiculous amount of protein, let's say 20 grams in 100 grams of spinach, if you had 2 grams of tannins in that protein, you would digest 0 grams of protein from that spinach. You would just poop it out. Because the tannins have precipitated those proteins.

                Earlier, an anon was talking about how grains are better than white rice because grains are packed with protein. Well, the problem is those grains have tannins, making the bioavailability of that protein much lower.

                You can apply this to all sorts of other anti-nutrients, like phytic acid.
                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phytic_acid
                >Phytic acid and phytate have a strong binding affinity to the dietary minerals, calcium, iron, and zinc, inhibiting their absorption in the small intestine

                This is why talking about plant food like grains and oats and spinach and broccoli as being "packed with vitamins" or whatever is nonsense. You're hardly absorbing any of those vitamins.

                These anti-nutrients also cause inflammation in the gut and all sorts of other problems because they're actively resisting being digested.

                In the end, the science behind all of this doesn't really matter. What matters is real life results. I promise, if you stop eating quinoa, oatmeal, spinach, broccoli, etc. and just eat beef liver once or twice a week, you are going to see huge, positive differences in how your diet affects you.

                Why do plants have these? As a defense against herbivores (plants don't want their leaves and seeds to be eaten).
                Fruits therefore have pretty much 0 antinutrients. They want to be eaten. They're also just super tasty and are a great source of clean carbohydrates.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                So which veggies are good to eat then? Also which grains are ones with lower anti nutrients? Is rice the only one? I also want to believe want to believe you, but why haven’t you posted body. Multiple anons asked you. If this works so well you gotta be in good shape.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                White rice isn't a whole grain because the husk is removed. So white rice pretty much has no anti-nutrients.

                Here's my tier list for plants (honey is there too):
                S Tier: Fruits & Honey & Squash
                A Tier: Rice & Sweet Potatoes & Carrots
                B Tier: Potatoes, Onions, Garlic
                C Tier: Bronze-Cut Pasta, Sourdough Bread
                F Tier: Quinoa, Brown Rice, Barley, Oatmeal, Nuts, things like that

                It's actually only one person asking me to post my body. He's seething because I asked him for proof that fiber is beneficial and he posted a bunch of correlational studies. I then told him "correlation is not causation" and he gave up. I didn't post my body for him because it wouldn't change his mind and there would be no point to.

                Here's the person I get pretty much all of my diet inspiration from:

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Lol you look like a complete dyel dude. I don’t know if I trust the doctor dude too hes got the same stick as the liver king just less gear. Looks like he has his own supplement line too. Seems like just another roider with a MD trying to capitalize off the fitness industry.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                If you think I'm a complete dyel and the person I linked is on steroids, I think you have a very strange and warped perception of male bodies. In case you're actually curious, he talks about his diet journey in the beginning of this video. He went from vegan to paleo to carnivore (only meat and organs) to where he's at today:

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Dude you look like you’ve been lifting for a couple months at most. Also any fitness influencer is on gear until proven otherwise. Thanks for the info, but I think I’m good.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Ok, once you realize that your standards for "in good shape" are nonsensical next to your "on steroids" standards and that spaghetti, oatmeal, spinach, and quinoa aren't actually beneficial in your diet, I hope you remember my posts or have the information saved.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Lol dude stop making excuses for your shitty shape, and defending some fitness influencer who is definitely on gear: they all are.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >shitty shape
                Your turn to post body.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Okay, here is a more full body with shit lighting. Im still a lot under where I was before covid, but I’m making my way back.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >sweatpants (0 legs)
                >0 forearms
                >chest as big as mine (small)
                You look good but if you think I'm in "shitty shape" and the guy I posted is "on steroids" you have a warped perception of reality. You should stop watching porn and Arnold. Also, feel free to cut out spinach/broccoli/oatmeal/quinoa for 1 week and eat 8 oz of beef liver twice in that week and see how you feel. Promise you won't look back. Nice home gym by the way, I want one of those but I am currently living in an apartment.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I train legs three times a week, but I train in sweat pants to save my shins. I’m not worried about my chest I don’t ever train it, but I still can’t do 255 with relative ease, I see it as a vanity muscle. Forearms I work on but yeah they’re small: I got shit inserts and long limbs. As far as that doctor, he is honestly not doing much better than me. His skin and gut give me immediate red flags of roid use: at least low dose, or he’s got some serious bloating. Almost every fitness influence i have ever seen, especially the ones that sell supps, are on gear. I honestly think I’m gonna keep on doing what I’m doing: obviously working better. I don’t mind liver and do eat it occasionally. It is good lightly battered and fried.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >obviously working better
                If you think the only thing diet affects is how your body looks and the size of your muscles (lol), you are extremely naive.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                No it’s not, but it’s a good indicator. It isn’t working for you too well, and the epitome of it doesn’t look much better than me. All my dr visits come back good, and I have a very clean track record. I see no point in changing if the people who recommend and make their lives about it are not doing better than me.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Now you are starting to sound like you have an inferiority complex. I don't want to insult you because you seem like an otherwise cordial person, but you're giving off "I don't have a father" vibes and that makes me want to not respond to you anymore. Have a nice night.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >This means, if you were eating a spinach with a ridiculous amount of protein, let's say 20 grams in 100 grams of spinach, if you had 2 grams of tannins in that protein, you would digest 0 grams of protein from that spinach. You would just poop it out. Because the tannins have precipitated those proteins.
                1) That calculation is retarded, especially since you're using weight.
                2) You know what else precipitates proteins? Cooking them.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Ok, I took that straight from the research article from Cambridge. Let them know they're retarded please.
                >It is well known that tannins are potential protein precipitants and they reduce protein and amino acid digestibility
                >It is believed that under optimal conditions, tannin is capable of binding and precipitating at least 12 times its own weight of protein
                >In general, tannins are resistant to heat

                20 / 12 = 1.667 -> rounded up to 2.

                Please stop posting about things you don't know about so arrogantly.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Where does it say that this amount can't be absorbed, retard?

                Oh my God certain anti-nutrients aren't proteins. Oh no! Guess they don't exist or something then! Someone tell the hundreds of scientists doing research on the subject!

                >heh, yes, I've been messing up basic biochemistry and implying that toxic plant protein are any factor at all in nutrition but I'm very smart.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >you don't know basic biochemistry
                >uhh where does it say the precipitated proteins can't be digested??
                Hahaha you don't know why that's funny but I do.

                Also lol'ing at you denying an entire field of nutritional research.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                https://i.imgur.com/D0CucUJ.png

                >these proteins and enzymes would be removed by cooking them as heating would denature the proteins
                Correct, heating denatures some % of some of those proteins. It doesn't magically remove them all. If you disagree, please find a source by looking up "heating anti-nutrients reduction pubmed" on your favorite search engine. I've done this multiple times before and I'm too lazy to do it again right now.

                I am going to look at one of your articles because I asked for 1.

                >Observational studies support associations between dietary fiber intake and depression and inflammation, but the potential mechanisms are poorly understood
                >This review examines evidence of the effects of dietary fiber on depression and inflammation and considers plausible mechanisms
                >A high-fiber diet potentially lowers inflammation
                >Further research into the link between dietary fiber intake and inflammation and depression is essential

                This isn't proof of anything. Your "source" says people who eat more fiber are less depressed. Yeah of course they are, because when you eat fruits + vegetables you are eating less processed shit in general.
                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthy_user_bias

                Observational claims are not proof of anything. Pic related. That's exactly what you've shown me.

                https://i.imgur.com/nWy5SN6.png

                >multiple sources
                I chose 1 and dismantled it. If you don't understand how I did that I can't help you. I can link the Wikipedia article again though.
                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthy_user_bias
                >we can notice trends
                Yes, and trends aren't proof of anything. See picture.
                >skimmed the others
                I made very clear I did not read anything except the 1 about depression which I dismantled.
                >blah blah blah more unsourced nonsense
                >protein was useless fiber was useless
                I also mentioned pesticides & anti-nutrients, which you ignored, except you said thank you about mentioning Round-Up, which you didn't know about, so that was nice.

                Here are some studies about fiber and gut bacteria, which you seem to be interested in. They show fiber isn't necessary for a healthy and robust gut microbiome. Please enjoy and let me know if you want me to explain them.

                >Diet rapidly and reproducibly alters the human gut microbiome
                https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3957428/
                >0 fiber diet caused no change in alpha-diversity and an increase in beta-diversity.

                >Dietary fiber intervention on gut microbiota composition in healthy adults: a systematic review and meta-analysis
                https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29757343/
                >No differences in effect were found between fiber intervention and comparators for α-diversity, abundances of other prespecified bacteria, or other SCFA concentrations.
                >Dietary fiber intervention does not affect α-diversity

                >You have an elementary-grade level of digestion and you're trying to lecture others.
                He says, while displaying his elementary-grade level of everything he talks about.
                That you seriously think bringing up toxic plant proteins as some kind of gotcha, and then go on to argue that only a % of proteins are denatured during cooking exposes you as an uneducated mongoloid.
                It's hard to put into words just how stupid you come across to someone actually familiar with the subject.

                t. PhD in biochemistry

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >then go on to argue that only a % of proteins are denatured during cooking exposes you as an uneducated mongoloid
                lol this is a pretty well established fact. You don't denature 100% of proteins when you cook anything you big silly goose. Here, this took me 15 seconds to find.

                https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33992319/
                >The reduction in oxalic acid, trypsin inhibitor, phytates and tannins ranged from 33 to 87 %, 77-82%, 33-60% and 51-66% respectively.
                >Further, the decline in content of various oligosaccharides viz. raffinose, stachyose and verbascose varied from 36 to 61 %, 25-49% and 30-74% respectively for both the varieties.

                Pic related comes from:
                https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3551098/

                I know I've talked with you before because you make retarded, unsourced statements like what you just said, arrogantly insult others and claim the high ground of "science" due to your PhD. Worst of all perhaps, you also won't admit when you're wrong, despite being proven wrong (as you have just been).

                To make it even worse, last thread I was in that I saw you someone pointed out you were a vegan transvestite.

                If I'm wrong and you're just another annoying "PhD in biochemistry," then my bad. But the fact you flaunt your PhD and deny basic facts that take 15 seconds to find is still really embarrassing.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >lol this is a pretty well established fact. You don't denature 100% of proteins when you cook anything
                You're retarded. Heat stable proteins exist, but that's a very specialized function.
                >Here, this took me 15 seconds to find.
                Okay? And it has nothing to do with this. Same for your screenshot.
                Maybe you should google what a protein is, evidently you don't even know these very basics.
                >unsourced statements
                I don't need to source statements like "water is wet", and I won't make an effort arguing with a retard like you.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You are correct that the anti-nutrients I gave examples of aren't proteins. However, you didn't bother reading the thread chain where we were talking about lectins (which are proteins) and anti-nutrients in general, in addition to fiber.

                So, instead of arguing my main point (which I would be happy to restate for you), you are nitpicking a minor detail that doesn't change the merits of anything I'm saying.

                Why are you even responding to me if you don't want to argue about anti-nutrients or fiber? Go ahead and give me some lame response but I'm probably not going to continue this because you speak very strangely and arrogantly, which is no surprise considering you're a vegan transvestite.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You a pussy ass bitch getting btfo’d by biochem anon

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Post body

                Pretty sure you're the guy from earlier in this thread who got BTFO'd when I pointed out "correlation is not causation" and dismantled your nonsense claims about fiber. I can tell because of your terrible writing skills and the fact that nobody has ever thought the vegan biochem chud "btfo'd" anyone before with his feeble pedantic claims.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >still hasn’t posted body

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >you are nitpicking a minor detail
                I get that it's hard for you to understand just how stupid you sound because of these "minor details" you're getting wrong. I doubt you lift, but you're the equivalent of someone calling deadlifts isolation exercises and mixing up barbells and dumbbells. Obviously, it would be immediately clear that someone like that doesn't know shit and is not worth listening to, no matter how many papers (they didn't read) they link.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Oh my God certain anti-nutrients aren't proteins. Oh no! Guess they don't exist or something then! Someone tell the hundreds of scientists doing research on the subject!

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You are correct that the anti-nutrients I gave examples of aren't proteins. However, you didn't bother reading the thread chain where we were talking about lectins (which are proteins) and anti-nutrients in general, in addition to fiber.

                So, instead of arguing my main point (which I would be happy to restate for you), you are nitpicking a minor detail that doesn't change the merits of anything I'm saying.

                Why are you even responding to me if you don't want to argue about anti-nutrients or fiber? Go ahead and give me some lame response but I'm probably not going to continue this because you speak very strangely and arrogantly, which is no surprise considering you're a vegan transvestite.

                Just wanna drop these here for the vegan chud PhD. You brain craves meat no matter what you say (study #1) because it can cure your depression (#2), anxiety (#2), and erectile dysfunction (#3) (if you still have your penis).

                https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31254550/
                >Twenty-four vegetarians and twenty-one omnivores were instructed to either passively look at the pictures (Watch) or to change the appetitive value of the food
                >In vegetarians, meat and fish dishes elicited lower desire to eat, pleasantness, and arousal during each condition as compared to both omnivores and vegetarian food.
                >In contrast with the subjective data, no group differences were observed in any of the ERP measures, suggesting that similar neural processing of food-cues occurred in vegetarians and omnivores both during passive viewing and cognitive reappraisal.
                >Overall, our findings suggest that, in vegetarians, aversion towards nonvegetarian food prevails at the subjective level and is consistent with their personal beliefs. In contrast, at the neural level, the intrinsic motivational salience of this type of food is preserved.

                https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/10408398.2021.1974336?_kx=m5L24Zq1U2xHVe5dyJ7t775cIGSh4sjfK1f91tfxH_o%3D.WY2S6U
                >Meat consumption was associated with lower depression and lower anxiety compared to meat abstention.
                >Compared to vegans, meat consumers experienced both lower depression and anxiety. Sex did not modify these relations.
                >The analysis also showed that the more rigorous the study, the more positive and consistent the relation between meat consumption and better mental health.
                >Our results show that meat abstention (vegetarianism or veganism) is clearly associated with poorer mental health, specifically higher levels of both depression and anxiety.

                https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21353476/
                >Hypogonadism and erectile dysfunction associated with onions product consumption

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                This

                https://i.imgur.com/V5cO2zR.png

                >then go on to argue that only a % of proteins are denatured during cooking exposes you as an uneducated mongoloid
                lol this is a pretty well established fact. You don't denature 100% of proteins when you cook anything you big silly goose. Here, this took me 15 seconds to find.

                https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33992319/
                >The reduction in oxalic acid, trypsin inhibitor, phytates and tannins ranged from 33 to 87 %, 77-82%, 33-60% and 51-66% respectively.
                >Further, the decline in content of various oligosaccharides viz. raffinose, stachyose and verbascose varied from 36 to 61 %, 25-49% and 30-74% respectively for both the varieties.

                Pic related comes from:
                https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3551098/

                I know I've talked with you before because you make retarded, unsourced statements like what you just said, arrogantly insult others and claim the high ground of "science" due to your PhD. Worst of all perhaps, you also won't admit when you're wrong, despite being proven wrong (as you have just been).

                To make it even worse, last thread I was in that I saw you someone pointed out you were a vegan transvestite.

                If I'm wrong and you're just another annoying "PhD in biochemistry," then my bad. But the fact you flaunt your PhD and deny basic facts that take 15 seconds to find is still really embarrassing.

                Post body

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Oats and every other grain are horrible foods full of pesticides (notably glyphosates AKA Round-Up) and anti-nutrients. Also fiber is a complete meme and has 0 benefits. Please feel free to try to prove me wrong on any of this.

        White rice is a fine food because it is a very clean carb, just like fruits and honey are.

        Does it provide any nutrition in the form of micronutrients or vitamins? No, but you are retarded if you are trying to get micronutrients from rice or grains. You should be getting your micronutrients (Vitamin A, Vitamin D, all the B vitamins, bioavailable Vitamin K, folate, creatine, carnitine, etc.) from meat, dairy, and organ meats (like liver and heart).

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >organ meats
          are you a ghoul anon?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            How sheltered are you to think people don't eat organ meat?

            Let me guess: 16 years old, suburbs, no father?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              i dont care if you have a whole coven of vampires you hang out with, organeater.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >she doesn't eat liver
                >she doesn't eat kidney
                >she doesn't eat heart
                You are unironically never going to make it.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                ok, I don't want to be a vampire lol

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Please never move out of California.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I dont live in california anon, is this one of those chinese riddles?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Is this a western thing? What do you do with liver and heart? Throw it away because you think it will turn you into a vampire? Genuinely curious.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >Throw it away because you think it will turn you into a vampire?
              yes, like a sensible person. Don't tell me, you keep them? Do you keep the testicles too, voodoo man?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >ewww eating organs is GROSS!
                >throw em away! they're totally GARBAGE!
                You should go back in time to any civilization in all of human history and let them know eating organs is weird. I think the past hundreds of thousands of years of mankind would appreciate your insight.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >You should go back in time to any civilization in all of human history
                kek yeah i should look to the caveman for wisdom, nice try Bela

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >the only civilization that existed before the 21st century Western civilization is... cavemen
                Oh, you're just retarded. Well I don't like making fun of retarded people, so I apologize and it won't happen again.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >ewww eating organs is GROSS!
                >throw em away! they're totally GARBAGE!
                You should go back in time to any civilization in all of human history and let them know eating organs is weird. I think the past hundreds of thousands of years of mankind would appreciate your insight.

                >the only civilization that existed before the 21st century Western civilization is... cavemen
                Oh, you're just retarded. Well I don't like making fun of retarded people, so I apologize and it won't happen again.

                Sorry we don't eat monkey poor caveman food here. Liver and kidneys are for the dogs.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >ooh I'm so sophisticated and modern because I only eat the muscles of animals
                >ooh to make up for the vitamin deficits i drink goyslop energy drinks and drink coffee and take vitamins made from plastic
                >ooh yeah i'm so cool and hip unlike cavemen or whatever came before today

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                The fact that you think eating organ meat makes you uncivilized or unsophisticated tells me you're at best lower midle class. You obviously have never done any fine dining, good luck with your chicken tendies Mr. civilized man

                what's with all the ghouls and goblins ITT?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >ooh I just love throwing away 50% of an animal because I'm soo cultured
                >who needs nutrition when you have coffee!

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >anon is actually pretending he kills, butchers and dresses his own meat
                >since he's a vampire I believe him

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >anon is pretending to be a teenage girl
                You will never be a woman.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                moron what?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                ywnbaw, chud

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                good

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                The fact that you think eating organ meat makes you uncivilized or unsophisticated tells me you're at best lower midle class. You obviously have never done any fine dining, good luck with your chicken tendies Mr. civilized man

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              They just don't buy them which makes them super cheap. Organs are way cheaper than muscle meats, which is nice for people who realize you should be eating all parts of an animal and organs are the most nutritious foods on the planet.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Post body

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I can't. I don't have any hands and therefore can't use a camera. Also I would be embarrassed if you laughed at my stumps.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >pesticides
          glyphosate is a herbicide you ignorant fuck. Holy shit I hope nobody on this board takes these people seriously. This dipshit watches a few hours of grifter content and suddenly has all the answers to health and diet.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Wow, not only is that wrong, but it has nothing to do with the content of what I'm saying. That's really embarrassing. I would delete this post if I were you to try to save some face.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >This, rice is pretty useless, aside for s bulking food,I prefer oats or other grains like buckwheat they have way more nutrition and fiber.
        You don't get, do you? White rice is a staple in a bulk AND in a fucking cut. You get you carbs, low fat, and LESS fiber. Not everyone's fucking constipated where they need to worry about a high amount of fiber intake, retard.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          If you're constipated you should be eating less fiber. 100% of people in this study who ate 0 fiber cured 100% of their bad pooping symptoms.

          https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3435786/
          >Stopping or reducing dietary fiber intake reduces constipation and its associated symptoms

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Isn't the point of fiber to solidify your shits? Of course removing fiber will provide relief if you are constipated all the time

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Maybe that's what it says on fiber supplements, but that's not actually true. From that research article:
              >However, the reality is that stool moisture content remains at 70%-75% regardless of the amount of fiber and water consumed

              Fiber doesn't affect the density of your stools. It just adds volume.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I think it tastes good tbh, even though it basically tastes of nothing.
      I had a chink roommate back in college and he had a rice cooker so we used it all the time.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Pure cabs
      >Body's #1 source of energy
      >No nutrition
      Kys

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >cabs
        >#1 source of energy
        how do you eat an entire cab anon do you start with the tailpipe?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I think he means cabs save him energy because he gets driven around a lot. Walking is very energetically expensive.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Points out typo
          >Thinks it's valid point
          >Plebbit tier logic
          You have to go back.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I just want to know anon. I mean, do you have to unhinge your jaw or do you just swallow one part at a time or?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Dyel?

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Ogre semen
    >150g spinach
    >120mL unflavored kefir
    >150g plain greek yogurt
    >30g unflavored pea protein isolate
    >9g (1tbsp) psyllium husk
    >enough water to make it drinkable
    340 calories, 50g protein, 26g carbs (11g fiber)

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      man please give your nails a rest

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/qvkt7zk.jpg

        Ogre semen
        >150g spinach
        >120mL unflavored kefir
        >150g plain greek yogurt
        >30g unflavored pea protein isolate
        >9g (1tbsp) psyllium husk
        >enough water to make it drinkable
        340 calories, 50g protein, 26g carbs (11g fiber)

        This, women think your hands look gross btw tbh

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Working on it.

        [...]
        This, women think your hands look gross btw tbh

        I don't care what women think.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >I don't care what women think.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            https://i.imgur.com/5KGBdDL.jpg

            I don't care that women think.

            I don't. I live in my trashed apartment, eat raw garlic, sardines, eggs and different forms of milk which leaves a permanent sour scent around me. I only care about my hair enough to get it cut when it gets in my vision during lifts. I brush my teeth once a week if I remember to do so. Same with showering.
            I only care about clocking out of work, going to lift or run, and eating enough to support those efforts.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              post body please

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Its not ready yet

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                anon i'm gonna crawl through the computer and box your ears

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Do what you must. You will not change my beliefs and practices

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              > Brushes teeth once a week

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I don't care that women think.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >I don't care what women think.
          N-no homo?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >spinach
      >pea protein
      >psyllium husk
      What are you doing? Why would you voluntarily eat the husk of a plant? Do you really think that makes you healthier?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Fiber good

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        psyllium husk is one of the best not-pozzed sources for fiber
        it's great for blended shakes

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          And fiber is useless.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            i don't like having really hard pellet shits, fiber cures this for me

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              I really doubt you've gone on a long-term fiber-free diet and you had constipation/very tough stools and then the only thing you changed about your diet was fiber and then your stools became perfect. Because that's not what fiber does.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          When you look at this image do you see any inedible parts? Perhaps an inedible husk or something?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Psyllium husks are edible when mixed with water.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Ground coconut husk would also be "edible" with water. Because it is a plant husk.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      shrek thumb to match, damn dude

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >no onions
      ngmi

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      50g of protein in one sitting? NGMI Bro.

      Reduce that by half my good friend

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Retarded

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    how to mineralsandvitaminsmaxx?
    I'll start bulking next month so I'll have plenty of calories to spare. I know I could just take a multivitamin but I actually wanna eat stuff.
    Any suggestions?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >how to mineralsandvitaminsmaxx?
      fistfuls of multivitamins and fast from water so they dont get flushed out in the urine

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Literally just eat liver once a week and eat normal food. Why do you guys try to overcomplicate everything?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        is beef liver nutritionally superior to chicken liver or other livers?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I would say so only because the life of an average cow is 1000x better than the life of an average chicken. In case you didn't know, every cow in the US grows up on pastures. They only get to feed lots in the last few months of their lives to get fattened up. Chickens'll spend their whole lives in a warehouse in some cage.

          I don't have any data but it's probably out there and the above is enough for my intuition.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      organ meat, potatoes, leafy greens

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      why would you want to eat mineral sand??? and is it even a mineral? eating liver and getting some sun should get you covered in the vitamins departament tho

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Take a "green shake" like Athletic Greens or a cheaper alternative to give you all your vitamins, then eat a big bowl of muesli for lunch every day. Boom, all vitamins and minerals.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >greens and oats
        Literal animal feed. Why would you eat that pesticide and anti-nutrient riddled garbage every day when you can just eat liver once a week

        https://i.imgur.com/bnYE06R.png

        Literally just eat liver once a week and eat normal food. Why do you guys try to overcomplicate everything?

        ? The nutrition of pounds and pounds of oats and spinach doesn't compare to 8 oz of liver. You would know this if you spent just 1 week eating liver twice and not eating oats or spinach at all.
        >inb4 you link myfitnesspal micros

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Literal animal feed.
          Ad hominem.
          >Why would you eat that pesticide
          It's called organic.
          >and anti-nutrient
          That's not a scientific term.
          >when you can just eat liver once a week
          First, because you need a daily source, not a weekly source. Second, beef liver has too much copper. Look up dangers of too much copper intake.
          Third, all the health concerns associated with red meat, the fact of them being carcinogenic and contributing to CVD, are present in cow organs.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Do you prefer the term "antinutritional factor?" Just because you close your eyes doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antinutrient

            >Impact of Antinutritional Factors in Food Proteins on the Digestibility of Protein and the Bioavailability of Amino Acids and on Protein Quality
            https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/british-journal-of-nutrition/article/impact-of-antinutritional-factors-in-food-proteins-on-the-digestibility-of-protein-and-the-bioavailability-of-amino-acids-and-on-protein-quality/052B66B8F1BA8DBBCEE94E3607A63402
            >Dietary antinutritional factors have been reported to adversely affect the digestibility of protein, bioavailability of amino acids and protein quality of foods.
            >Examples of naturally occurring antinutritional factors include glucosinolates in mustard and canola protein products, trypsin inhibitors and haemagglutinins in legumes, tannins in legumes and cereals, gossypol in cottonseed protein products, and uricogenic nucleobases in yeast protein products.

            I would try to reason with you more but if you're starting the conversation off with "That's not The Science!" to something that is an entire field of research in nutritional science, you clearly are an arrogant and closed-minded individual not worth talking to.

            Also lol @ copper poisoning. Please name 1 person who was "copper poisoned" by eating liver or link a case study.
            Also meat doesn't contribute to cancer or CVD. You can't find 1 non-epidemiological study to show that. Common myth.
            Also you also can't find 1 study showing you "need a daily source" of micronutrients, that's nonsense.
            Also organic foods still have pesticide contamination. The fact you don't know that is pretty silly.

            Overall I rate you 1/5.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >2 slices white bread
    >2 slices smoked turkey
    >Thin layer of homemade mayo
    >Sweet baby rays BBQ sauce (no more than 1 tsp)
    >Small amount of fresh grated parmesan
    >Toasted so cheese melts
    >Protein shake

    >2 beef hotlink sausages cut into coins and pan seared
    >1 piece of white toast with peanut butter
    >1/2 banana
    >Handful baby carrots
    >Protein shake

    >Keema
    >Rice
    >Plain greek yogurt or sour cream
    >1 half roti

    I don't really country calories. Just try to get a balance of what I like and work out 4 days a week with 3 days of intermittent fasting. Also absolutely no alcohol.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I just had an entire pizza with gorgonzola cheese and Hispanicy salami and I'm going out to drink alcohol with a bunch of girls from my work. Feels good not being a slave to disgusting foods while still being in shape

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Whats disgusting about the OP picture

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        vegetables, ew yucky

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I concur. Veggies are fucking disgusting.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            vegetables, ew yucky

            (Biological) vegetables are useless foods and there is no reason to eat them. 0 nutrition 0 satiation. Squash, avocado, etc. are based, however.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The food is tasteless and expensive even if stir fried.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Don't project your inability to cook decent meals onto others. Learn how to cook.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Been cooking since I was 12 kek. Sorry I don't make food that even a dog wouldn't eat. You don't have to torture yourself to make healthy meals. There's a reason why the trope is "eat your veggies kid or no desert". Its almost as if children come out of the womb ready to eat a meat based diet.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Putting hotpockets into the microwave does not count as cooking, retard.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >if you don't cook vegetables you can't cook at all
                Are you dating a broccoli or something?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                you're the only one talking about vegetables, you deranged schizo

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I'm a different person and the fact you couldn't tell I made a joke post means you are a deranged person. I wouldn't call you schizophrenic yet but you're getting there.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU FUCKING RETARD NO ONE IS TALKIGN ABOUT VEGETABLES BUT YOU

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Another episode of a deranged schizophrenic calling other people a deranged schizophrenic on IST IST.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I make my pizzas with pita bread and a quarter cup of non processed cheese and a piece of beef coto salami and some olives.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I missed 22 lb in 7 months and I ate pizza, bread, cake, drink alcohol but like 2-3 of those days

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >I missed 22 lb
        hi Chang

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Do you really spend your day compensating for not reading books by pointing out grammatical errors on IST? That's worse than the ketolard schizo spammer.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Do you really spend your day compensating for not reading books by pointing out grammatical errors on IST?
            no i just spot chinks haha

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      what the hell man are those little baby cabbages? what have you done to them that's so sad
      don't you have feelings?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/jqUoZme.jpg

        >doesn't know what brussel sprouts are
        Unbelievable anon. Unbelievable.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Excellent. What is that, a risotto? Something mashed?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      looks pretty good. Dumb question tho: do you eat the chicken with your hands or a knife and fork?

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      what temp and for how long?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        360 F / 180° , 20 min .

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Thanks anon

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Broccoli, rice & grilled chicken thighs.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Looks great if you dropped the (worthless) broccoli.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Why? It's fiber and makes you feel full. Are you retarded?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Fiber is useless like I've said ten times in this thread already and shown with research.
          >feel full
          If you only feel full when your stomach is stuffed with food your diet is horrible. And the fact you don't realize that is pretty sad.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Swap out thighs for breasts cooked in butter. Save yourself the PUFAs

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    2 striploins with a cup of basmati ricr and a full avocado.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why does every diet thread quickly turn into broscientists arguing with other broscientists, none of whom have any formal education or training on the topic matter at hand

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Looks disgusting. Respect your Salmon more. Keep it whole and intact. This is dry garbage. Even worse, it's overcooked. All the omega 3s are now oxidized.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Eat shit gay it looks good

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Lamb kefta, eggs, broccoli, celery salad with pieces of apple

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I also cooked the perfect pork tenderloin recently.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What's your fisherman's eggs recipe, IST? You DO have one, right?
    >sauté onions, mushrooms, garlic, tofu
    >add to baking pan with some 'deenz
    >bake three minutes, 375F
    >crack in some eggs, add red pepper
    >three more minutes
    >add black pepper, thyme, parsley, turmeric
    >two minutes
    >add scallion whites
    >two minutes
    >pull out, add capers, black sesame seed, scallion greens, gochujang, Tabasco, sambal, & stir to combine
    Wa la.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I'm really lazy and also cutting now so I don’t fry anything and don’t use oil at all.
      I mix deenz with large tomato and small onion. I make sure to bake it until most water is gone. Then I dump 4 eggs on top.
      It's especially poorfag recipe for me since I get 20 eggs per week from grandma.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Tuna is a meme food. Sardines and eggs are based though.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >check to see what IST is eating
    >bugman food
    >"fried" food
    >gay vegan shit

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