Just pay the extra 50 cents for the sneed oil free 100% peanut butter. If your local supermarket only sells Jif or Skippy or other slop brands I suggest you move out of the ghetto to somewhere that has actual decent stores.
Even with Jif you can get their healthy or all natural or whatever (brown label) and it replaces HFCS with sugar (though why it need sugar at all, who knows?), and sneed oils with palm oil (bad for the environment and orangutans, but a decently healthy saturated fat).
I believe the only saturated oil that comes from plants is coconut oil
Omega 6 is only bad when it out of proportion with omega 3. The ideal Omega 3: Omega 6 ration is 1:1. This is of course after considering any conversion factors such as converting the non-bioactive ALA found in plant founds into the active EPA or DHA found exclusively in animals. That is at most 15% ALA actually matters. So for something that is alleged to be a "good source" of Omega 3 like flaxseed oil the asserted ratio of about 3:1 is actually, when the conversion factor is accounted for, no more than 45:100. That is, it's better than other seed oils, but you are not reaching the ideal Omega 3: Omega 6 ratio. And the 45:100 ratio is generous since most people convert ALA to the active EPA and DHA less efficiently that 15%. The likelihood is that many people are 10% or 5% converters so the ratios are now more like 3:10 and 15:100.
The other problem is that fastfood is soaked in seed oils which have a high amount of Omega 6 and low amount of ALA, while any form of meat or dairy is from grain fed cattle, or söyfed chicken which have very high Omega 6 levels due to their diet. So the person who eats fast food regularly is now eating way too much Omega6 relative to their Omega 3 consumption. Coupled with the effects of the meals also being high carb, low fiber, and filled with artificial preservatives make people who eat them regularly fat, unhealthy, and increase their risk for heart attack.
Realistically, who the fuck is actually consuming a one to one ratio of omega-3 and omega six? That is a fuck ton of seafood my dude. I don’t think there has been enough research on omega-3 fatty acid yet for me to really put much stock into this being an ideal ratio. That doesn’t even make sense from an evolutionarily biologist standpoint. I’m supposed to believe that our ancestors for hundreds of thousands of years were consuming seafood add an equivalent rate to plants? Yeah, fucking right. I think as long as you are eating seafood a couple times a week you are probably doing better than 99.9% of the human race
Our ancestors didn't get nearly as much omega 6 because they did not have refined sneed oils. Without the refinement process you're not getting all that much. Probably the oldest source of lots of omega 6 is olive oil but it's not nearly as bad as this other shit. Also proper grass fed meat in a non-nutrient depleted environment has a lot of omega 3.
Peanut butter is shit. Plant foods in general are a bad source of protein since they require a lot more work for your body to use and absorb. If you want an accurate estimate of how much protein you get from peanuts, take the number on the label and multiply it by 0.6.
not me
i don't think anyone that avoids sneed oils would say that either. this is "confusing carnivore and keto" levels of intentional misunderstanding
Industrially refined seed oils are the problem. If you just squeeze or crush the thing and edible oil comes out with no need for industrial processing then it's fine. Refined peanut oil is bad for you, but peanut butter just made from blended up peanuts is not a problem.
Anglos be like
>my favorite goyslop is PEE NUT BUTTer
Neither peanuts nor tree nuts are seeds
peanut are legumes, just like basedbeans
but basedbean oil bad, and peanut good?
>extracted oil is the same as the whole food pureed
completely different process to extract oil vs putting the whole thing in a blender and eating it
yes they are you retard
fuck it don't care didn't asked (not OP) (slummock all nuts in my way) (die
I believe the only saturated oil that comes from plants is coconut oil
all foods except sugar have some amount of saturated fat
Cocoa butter and cacao nibs too (also a great source of magnesium from the latter).
i usually just skim the fat away
>>oh no that one is good!!!!
Nobody with a clue claims peanuts are anything but trash
>>oh no that one is good!!!!
never said that, nice try you zoggolem
Just pay the extra 50 cents for the sneed oil free 100% peanut butter. If your local supermarket only sells Jif or Skippy or other slop brands I suggest you move out of the ghetto to somewhere that has actual decent stores.
>I prefere my sneed paste without sneed oils
>there's no difference between a product that's refined in the same way crude oil is to produce gasoline and seeds that are just ground into a paste
There is difference in processing but the input material is still garbage.
Even with Jif you can get their healthy or all natural or whatever (brown label) and it replaces HFCS with sugar (though why it need sugar at all, who knows?), and sneed oils with palm oil (bad for the environment and orangutans, but a decently healthy saturated fat).
Palm oil is saturated fat as well IIRC.
I think the added sugar is to balance out the bitterness of the stabilizing oil, whether it's hydrogenated Sneed oil or palm oil.
Hey at least Jif is non-GMO. The hydrogenated fats make it slop.
I don’t think OP is talking about added sneed, it’s that peanut oil itself is a sneed oil.
Yes, that is the belief. The problem with sneed is the processing. Do some research and stop making shit threads.
it's omega 6 that is bad
plus any industrial scale solvents that are used
Do you realize that the majority of calories in peanuts come from omega 6?
you can literally google that and verify you are wrong in a few seconds lmao
Omega 6 is only bad when it out of proportion with omega 3. The ideal Omega 3: Omega 6 ration is 1:1. This is of course after considering any conversion factors such as converting the non-bioactive ALA found in plant founds into the active EPA or DHA found exclusively in animals. That is at most 15% ALA actually matters. So for something that is alleged to be a "good source" of Omega 3 like flaxseed oil the asserted ratio of about 3:1 is actually, when the conversion factor is accounted for, no more than 45:100. That is, it's better than other seed oils, but you are not reaching the ideal Omega 3: Omega 6 ratio. And the 45:100 ratio is generous since most people convert ALA to the active EPA and DHA less efficiently that 15%. The likelihood is that many people are 10% or 5% converters so the ratios are now more like 3:10 and 15:100.
The other problem is that fastfood is soaked in seed oils which have a high amount of Omega 6 and low amount of ALA, while any form of meat or dairy is from grain fed cattle, or söyfed chicken which have very high Omega 6 levels due to their diet. So the person who eats fast food regularly is now eating way too much Omega6 relative to their Omega 3 consumption. Coupled with the effects of the meals also being high carb, low fiber, and filled with artificial preservatives make people who eat them regularly fat, unhealthy, and increase their risk for heart attack.
Realistically, who the fuck is actually consuming a one to one ratio of omega-3 and omega six? That is a fuck ton of seafood my dude. I don’t think there has been enough research on omega-3 fatty acid yet for me to really put much stock into this being an ideal ratio. That doesn’t even make sense from an evolutionarily biologist standpoint. I’m supposed to believe that our ancestors for hundreds of thousands of years were consuming seafood add an equivalent rate to plants? Yeah, fucking right. I think as long as you are eating seafood a couple times a week you are probably doing better than 99.9% of the human race
Our ancestors didn't get nearly as much omega 6 because they did not have refined sneed oils. Without the refinement process you're not getting all that much. Probably the oldest source of lots of omega 6 is olive oil but it's not nearly as bad as this other shit. Also proper grass fed meat in a non-nutrient depleted environment has a lot of omega 3.
Best bet, replace it with cashew butter. That shit is ridiculously delicious. OR if you're all rich and shit, macadamia butter is godly.
Peanut butter is shit. Plant foods in general are a bad source of protein since they require a lot more work for your body to use and absorb. If you want an accurate estimate of how much protein you get from peanuts, take the number on the label and multiply it by 0.6.
yeah fit is retarded
i think itll take another decade or more until most people are fully on board with ray peat
Ok, when you eat peanut butter, you’re not just eating or drinking refined peanut oil. You’re also eating the rest of the peanut.
no it's seed oil if it's just oil, if the ingredients are peanuts and there's oil in it it's normal.
It's the seed oil sold on its own that is bad
Peanut butter is trash but not as bad as rancid goybean
>go on beach trip with my firend and his family
>we end up getting horny
>he lets me fuck him
>we used canola oil as lube since we were 15
>>oh no that one is good!!!!
not me
i don't think anyone that avoids sneed oils would say that either. this is "confusing carnivore and keto" levels of intentional misunderstanding
>peanut butter
>seed
Wat
Industrially refined seed oils are the problem. If you just squeeze or crush the thing and edible oil comes out with no need for industrial processing then it's fine. Refined peanut oil is bad for you, but peanut butter just made from blended up peanuts is not a problem.
No it's not.
Eat butter.