Don't worry, if you ever get off the meds you'll get to learn what they are. It's a kind of painful feeling where you feel that your brain is turned off and turned back on again accompanied by what feels like electricity going through your brain.
If anyone here is thinking about getting psyche meds is reading this, make sure you try everything else that's humanly possible to help yourself before getting on the medication. Oftentimes the medications will cause as many problems as they solve. Mental health still is very much a developing field. Not only do they not fully understand how certain mental conditions come about, they also don't understand fully why or how medications treat disorders.
Unless your depression is so bad that you're getting constant panic attacks with nausea while vomiting and you're thinking of killing yourself to stop the pain, it's probably not bad enough that you need medication.
Oh man frick brain zaps. I got pretty bad withdrawals after one SSRI. I would be getting a zap every other minute or so and randomly my brain would "reset" for a moment and sometimes my legs would just shut off and I'd catch myself before I hit the ground. Migraines every day, irritability, no temper, dizziness, nausea, shakes. Fricking hated that shit.
absolutely agree. I was put on meds almost ten years ago and quit after a few months cuz they weren't doing anything.
Since then I've just been winging it. Sometimes it gets really bad where I pretend to be sick from work and do nothing all day, don't eat or become suicidal. But it's still better than being put on happy pills. Really people have been living with depression for millenia, why can't we do it now?
lol I got this during my withdrawal. The absurd part was I was only taking half a dosage. I had a choice between upping my dosage, changing my prescription, or quitting. I wasn't getting any positive side effects and on the flipside I was getting seriously fat so I just stopped altogether. Brain zaps for like 6 fricking months after what must've been only about 2 months of half a dosage. What a sick joke.
But what it DID do was make me fricking crazy for like 2 weeks. it made me go hypomanic when coming on and off the drugs but once my body acclimatised to them they fricking didnt do anything
also the side effects were insane coming off the drugs I felt like I was constantly falling when sat down it gave me horrible imbalance.
Btw youre not supposed to take SSRI's for longer than 2 years. it can frick up your health
That meme is funny because it describes the feeling pretty well. I started lurking /b/ a few months before I started taking prozac in 2011 and I remember losing all sensitivity to gore and liveleak threads as well as other shit you shouldn’t be desensitized to. I had almost no empathy and I never wanted to frick my gf.
actually lexapro has been shown to cause a wide array of hormonal issues and long term improvement of the persons life rarely is shown.
There is a reason they use the 1/3rd system newbie.
They are never wrong if they use it.
Dr.Anon here
morons who say anti depressants make them numb, don’t need antidepressants or are prescribed them at a too high of a dose. Antidepressants affect the brain so they will make the symptoms of depression more manageable. If they make you numb you are stupid and not really depressed. Jk it could be the difference in weather you need an SSRI SNRI or NDRI. Talk to your doctors and stop being stupid
>it could be the difference in weather you need an….
If you are taking meds and it is Frickin you up. You may need different meds. Or you may not need meds. Talk to your doctor.
You are fricking moronic with your low grade reading comprehension. How does a Neanderthal like you even know how to operate a computer?
A storm is brewing
Your head is screwy
Acting tough and typing fast
At last stimulation
Reflecting back; of one’s life
A sad sight, with darkened clouds
To change the train of empty thoughts
Source of happiness; a laptop
The storm is here
Your brain a mess
One last bit of happiness
I contest you must go rest
Rest your dopamine
Stop this feen, of burnt out rewards
Go get help; take your meds
Wake up
The storm has passed
This drug has turned my dad into a 350lb zombie after he had a mental breakdown from slaving in the corporate world for 20 years
His life is eating food and looking for places to sit down
I really hope my stepmom and him go quickly because it's obvious they're not going to improve themselves and any attempts to reason with them to they shut down defensively in an instant
He's too bought into the "Chemical Imbalance" bullshit
Also kinda went nuts after he cold turkey quit a couple months after starting them, so I think he's especially scared to stop
Show him the research on the early Sandoz trials. The reason psychedelics weren't used is that they offer a permanent cure. That's bad for business, so they killed it and demonized psychedelics as causing schizophrenia or whatever other nonsense. Btw there's is also Esketamine, maybe he could switch to that
>mental breakdown from slaving in the corporate world for 20 years
this is the shit right here. This is not a strange response. Why do we pretend these "disorders" are problems with brain chemistry and not a result of the horribly unfulfilling circumstances the majority of people find themselves in.
Yeah it absolutely was a Teddy K situation, 1 hour long commute each way to a meaningless environmental manufacturing compliance job. He's now retired with a chunk of change, free time, but in horrible shape
Show him the research on the early Sandoz trials. The reason psychedelics weren't used is that they offer a permanent cure. That's bad for business, so they killed it and demonized psychedelics as causing schizophrenia or whatever other nonsense. Btw there's is also Esketamine, maybe he could switch to that
I'll try to offer some microdoses of shrooms, I enjoy the effects myself
Feels sad man. I wish peace upon your father. Thankfully psychedelic research has been loosened up recently, hopefully people like him can get the help they need.
Western Mental Health is horseshit. Talk therapy is a joke. If you had the means to help yourself, you probably would have done so already or deserve what you get.
The only people this shit actually works for are people who manufacture their own issues; hence why so many women get on these.
Get off IST and lift. If you've lifted today or are resting, go meal prep or go to sleep. Feel better bro.
>You cannot talk/think yourself out of anxiety or depression as those things are not jut 'in your head'.
Mood Improvement
Serotonin impacts our mood, but mood also affects serotonin production. Studies using
brain imaging (PET), showed that brains of people who are happy produce more serotonin
than brains of people who are sad.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18043767/
My doctor said he's not going to offer me any new anti depressant because i've tried them all so i'm on my own
i guess my brain is just extra fricked up
I suffered from on and off panic attacks for years, then a period of intense nearly non stop panic due to work stress and a panic attack while high. That's the last time I smoked.
Ten years of Lexapro and... Six figure income, excellent enjoyable job, great wife, went from fat to fit, newborn son and second coming soon. The fricking works. The shit we strive for.
I still hear whispers of panic here and there, but the volume is down and it never exceeds a manageable level.
Could I get off it? Maybe? I did decrease the dose recently with zero side effects. But it certainly isn't hurting.
>Six figure income, excellent enjoyable job, great wife, went from fat to fit, newborn son and second coming soon. The fricking works. The shit we strive for.
all of that can be present in a depressed, even suicidal individual anon. maybe try describing how it affected you interiorly
I take a very low dose (2.5 mg) for severe insomnia. Works like a charm. I would not recommend getting on it unless you absolutely have to. Docs wanted to get me on benzos for the insomnia and the lexapro saved me from having to take super dangerous and addictive drugs.
I was diagnose with depression during covid because of lockdowns and I started with prozac. Didn't like it and told my therapist I was going to get off it and they were like "are you sure? there may be side effects!" as if the medication itself doesn't have side effects. If depression is a chemical imbalance in the brain then I can balance it by going to the gym and giving my brain natural happy chemicals from working out and getting some sunlight and shit. Stop taking SSRIs you fricking morons, you probably don't need them.
>Didn't like it and told my therapist I was going to get off it
Good for you anon.
In a series of recent studies, negative emotions were associated with increased disability due to mental and physical disorders,22 increased incidence of depression,23 increased suicide24 and increased mortality25 up to 2 decades later. Positive emotions protected against these outcomes. A recent review including meta-analyses assessed cross-sectional, longitudinal and experimental studies and concluded that happiness is associated with and precedes numerous successful outcomes
Anyone else here on buproprion? Giving it a try after prozac/fluoxitine didnt do shit. I feel vaguely more inclined to do things but thats it so far after a bit over 2 weeks
bupropion is great compared to lexapro. the trick is to combo them. you get the mild contentness from bupropion with the absolute no fricks from lexapro that resolves in a permanent mild content.
or ya know, just do dmt like once and probably be better off. your call o/
getting an erection now requries more willpower, or atleast makes you not feel like a horny teenager, for some that is a plus, for older people i guess, thats a minus. also i last way longer in bed now, that's a plus.
i used ssris a bit in my teens.
i got bullied a lot for being a weirdo and it seemed like something i just had to put up with, not something i could fix if i changed behaviours.
i ended up kind of hollowed out and miserable and probably stayed home more days than i went because the stress gave me agonizing abdominal pain.
the ssris did help. i became somewhat more functional and they made room to feel positive things sometimes.
i cycled through a bunch and they seemed to be decreasingly effective rather than more.
eventually it didn't seem worth it to get the re-fill so i weaned myself off of them.
i don't think they are NECESSARY in that the stuff you need to do to get out of that is not take the drug.
but taking the drug might be the only feasible way you get yourself into a position where you can fix your life.
Non antidepressant user here. Has anyone tried Tianeptine? A lot of people report better results compared to the conventional antidepressants, plus it's unscheduled in many parts of the world.
I got on lexapro and like 10 Xanax pills when I was on the verge of suicide. I quit the lexapro because it dulled my emotions and it didn’t seem to help. I didn’t feel more productive. Im having a tough time again, I get really anxious at night and have moments where I feel really unstable. Aspirin seems to help but I have no idea how to help myself. I workout, eat right, drink water, and so on. I might try a therapist/psychiatrist again.
but it's not coffee
*Masks your symptoms so you never fix your life*
goodbye erections and ever being able to coom. hello brain zaps and years of withdrawal symptoms if you ever decide to get off meds
Brain zaps?
Don't worry, if you ever get off the meds you'll get to learn what they are. It's a kind of painful feeling where you feel that your brain is turned off and turned back on again accompanied by what feels like electricity going through your brain.
If anyone here is thinking about getting psyche meds is reading this, make sure you try everything else that's humanly possible to help yourself before getting on the medication. Oftentimes the medications will cause as many problems as they solve. Mental health still is very much a developing field. Not only do they not fully understand how certain mental conditions come about, they also don't understand fully why or how medications treat disorders.
Unless your depression is so bad that you're getting constant panic attacks with nausea while vomiting and you're thinking of killing yourself to stop the pain, it's probably not bad enough that you need medication.
Great fricking post Anon. Thanks. Too bad no one will listen, because we all want a quick fix.
Oh man frick brain zaps. I got pretty bad withdrawals after one SSRI. I would be getting a zap every other minute or so and randomly my brain would "reset" for a moment and sometimes my legs would just shut off and I'd catch myself before I hit the ground. Migraines every day, irritability, no temper, dizziness, nausea, shakes. Fricking hated that shit.
absolutely agree. I was put on meds almost ten years ago and quit after a few months cuz they weren't doing anything.
Since then I've just been winging it. Sometimes it gets really bad where I pretend to be sick from work and do nothing all day, don't eat or become suicidal. But it's still better than being put on happy pills. Really people have been living with depression for millenia, why can't we do it now?
I think their depression was easier because they couldn't survive just laying in bed all day. Most of us can.
lol I got this during my withdrawal. The absurd part was I was only taking half a dosage. I had a choice between upping my dosage, changing my prescription, or quitting. I wasn't getting any positive side effects and on the flipside I was getting seriously fat so I just stopped altogether. Brain zaps for like 6 fricking months after what must've been only about 2 months of half a dosage. What a sick joke.
I bust big ol nuts and had a baby. None of that shit. And was on 20mg for ten years.
Literally take meds none of that shit is true.
It just was proven that serotonin has zero connection to depression.
You got pharma israelite'd.
I'd probably be fricking dead if not for the meds so there's that.
I'm also pretty sure them and alcohol are what contributed to my personality change over time.
>meta analysis
>proven
>the author clearly has an axe to grind
https://joannamoncrieff.com/upcoming-talks/
glow harder Black person
Thank you Dr. Goldbergsteinitz… I will go back to my LDL-decreasing seed oils as all humans should :^)
anyone who has even a cursory understanding of the medical industrial complex should have an axe to grind
No it hasn't you dumb frick. Holy shit you absolute fricking moron
Yes it has. The correlation between low serotonin and depression is quite literally negative
where are you getting this from?
anon this isn't new knowledge. ssri's most likely work (when they work at all) by cutting inflammation not boosting serotonin.
that is not well known at all and that is not how ssris work either
If you can tell us how ssri's work you'll get a nobel prize because no one fricking knows why the ones better than placebos do anything.
if only you knew how right and wrong you were
>trust the science when it aligns with my preconceived notions
Any chemical that ends in -pram is shady business.
Exactly, you want to be looking for the ones that end with -zepam
*kills your libido*
I'd rather try Adderall. Gonna try to get a prescription once my health insurance activates.
Try Ritalin first, great stuff
>literally speed
No, just no
what's wrong with a little meth first thing in the morning?
citalopram didnt do anything for me
But what it DID do was make me fricking crazy for like 2 weeks. it made me go hypomanic when coming on and off the drugs but once my body acclimatised to them they fricking didnt do anything
also the side effects were insane coming off the drugs I felt like I was constantly falling when sat down it gave me horrible imbalance.
Btw youre not supposed to take SSRI's for longer than 2 years. it can frick up your health
so instead of making you happy you just lose all emotions including sadness?
yes, it's pretty scary
you get a lot done but turn into a stepford wife
In my case I lost all feelings in my dick. It became numb as a thumb.
are you dumb? your thumb shouldn't be numb
That meme is funny because it describes the feeling pretty well. I started lurking /b/ a few months before I started taking prozac in 2011 and I remember losing all sensitivity to gore and liveleak threads as well as other shit you shouldn’t be desensitized to. I had almost no empathy and I never wanted to frick my gf.
Yes. Notice how they're not called Happy Pills, but are called anti-depressants.
good goy, make sure you buy a firearm next
Literally three days ago a huge article came out showing that serotonin has nothing to do with depression.
What I find even more interesting about SSRIs is that they increase significantly your odds of committing suicide.
Lmao idk why tf I took this garbage for so long.
The reason they increase the risk of suicide is that they can affect motivation prior to improving outlook.
Meaning you're suicidally depressed but sit around in a dark room all day. A few weeks in you are now motivated... And still suicidally depressed.
Really only applies in the extreme cases.
what the hell is up with you zoomers and anti depressants, is trying to figure out your genders really causing you guys that much stress
actually lexapro has been shown to cause a wide array of hormonal issues and long term improvement of the persons life rarely is shown.
There is a reason they use the 1/3rd system newbie.
They are never wrong if they use it.
Dr.Anon here
morons who say anti depressants make them numb, don’t need antidepressants or are prescribed them at a too high of a dose. Antidepressants affect the brain so they will make the symptoms of depression more manageable. If they make you numb you are stupid and not really depressed. Jk it could be the difference in weather you need an SSRI SNRI or NDRI. Talk to your doctors and stop being stupid
>you need an SSRI SNRI or NDRI.
literally no one needs any of that shit
>it could be the difference in weather you need an….
If you are taking meds and it is Frickin you up. You may need different meds. Or you may not need meds. Talk to your doctor.
You are fricking moronic with your low grade reading comprehension. How does a Neanderthal like you even know how to operate a computer?
I'm not the one who doesn't know the right way to spell whether "doctor." Maybe your goypills aren't working so hot for you?
A storm is brewing
Your head is screwy
Acting tough and typing fast
At last stimulation
Reflecting back; of one’s life
A sad sight, with darkened clouds
To change the train of empty thoughts
Source of happiness; a laptop
The storm is here
Your brain a mess
One last bit of happiness
I contest you must go rest
Rest your dopamine
Stop this feen, of burnt out rewards
Go get help; take your meds
Wake up
The storm has passed
you are a fricking idiot spewing bullshit you read in a textbook. Go read the long term outcome data and come back.
*Does nothing*
This drug has turned my dad into a 350lb zombie after he had a mental breakdown from slaving in the corporate world for 20 years
His life is eating food and looking for places to sit down
I really hope my stepmom and him go quickly because it's obvious they're not going to improve themselves and any attempts to reason with them to they shut down defensively in an instant
Get him some acid or shrooms. He won't need goypills afterward
He's too bought into the "Chemical Imbalance" bullshit
Also kinda went nuts after he cold turkey quit a couple months after starting them, so I think he's especially scared to stop
Show him the research on the early Sandoz trials. The reason psychedelics weren't used is that they offer a permanent cure. That's bad for business, so they killed it and demonized psychedelics as causing schizophrenia or whatever other nonsense. Btw there's is also Esketamine, maybe he could switch to that
>mental breakdown from slaving in the corporate world for 20 years
this is the shit right here. This is not a strange response. Why do we pretend these "disorders" are problems with brain chemistry and not a result of the horribly unfulfilling circumstances the majority of people find themselves in.
Yeah it absolutely was a Teddy K situation, 1 hour long commute each way to a meaningless environmental manufacturing compliance job. He's now retired with a chunk of change, free time, but in horrible shape
I'll try to offer some microdoses of shrooms, I enjoy the effects myself
Feels sad man. I wish peace upon your father. Thankfully psychedelic research has been loosened up recently, hopefully people like him can get the help they need.
hope it doesn't count as "source talk" but how do people even get shrooms? is it really just knowing a guy who knows a guy?
Apparently you can buy it legally in the uk as long as its “unprepared”
the best way is to grow your own
spore syringes are legal and so is all the equipment to grow them
it was the best hobby I ever had
>we
>israelite media/institutional complex
Pick one
Western Mental Health is horseshit. Talk therapy is a joke. If you had the means to help yourself, you probably would have done so already or deserve what you get.
The only people this shit actually works for are people who manufacture their own issues; hence why so many women get on these.
Get off IST and lift. If you've lifted today or are resting, go meal prep or go to sleep. Feel better bro.
Talk therapy probably works for people do not self talk.
You cannot talk/think yourself out of anxiety or depression as those things are not jut 'in your head'.
Of course you need logic to know what is wrong, but these things go much deeper.
>You cannot talk/think yourself out of anxiety or depression as those things are not jut 'in your head'.
Mood Improvement
Serotonin impacts our mood, but mood also affects serotonin production. Studies using
brain imaging (PET), showed that brains of people who are happy produce more serotonin
than brains of people who are sad.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18043767/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2077351/
What is the point of this thread? The pills arent going to fix the world just make me complacent to let it rot.
My doctor said he's not going to offer me any new anti depressant because i've tried them all so i'm on my own
i guess my brain is just extra fricked up
Iunno... Lotta hate here for it.
I suffered from on and off panic attacks for years, then a period of intense nearly non stop panic due to work stress and a panic attack while high. That's the last time I smoked.
Ten years of Lexapro and... Six figure income, excellent enjoyable job, great wife, went from fat to fit, newborn son and second coming soon. The fricking works. The shit we strive for.
I still hear whispers of panic here and there, but the volume is down and it never exceeds a manageable level.
Could I get off it? Maybe? I did decrease the dose recently with zero side effects. But it certainly isn't hurting.
>Six figure income, excellent enjoyable job, great wife, went from fat to fit, newborn son and second coming soon. The fricking works. The shit we strive for.
all of that can be present in a depressed, even suicidal individual anon. maybe try describing how it affected you interiorly
I feel like it raised rye threshold for a panic attack. I was having anxiety solely in fear of having an attack. Lots of fun...
Just a general decrease in chaotic and intrusive thoughts. I feel normal, stable and healthy.
At least post physique to show you’re not israeliteposting
Post nose
>*fixes my life*
Feels good man. My life is so much fricking better, but I have a long way to go.
I'm coming up on two months of a 10 mg dose
Not only do I not notice any difference, I don't even notice the supposed side effects
I don't think I'm going to stay on it
more like
*makes you fat*
I take a very low dose (2.5 mg) for severe insomnia. Works like a charm. I would not recommend getting on it unless you absolutely have to. Docs wanted to get me on benzos for the insomnia and the lexapro saved me from having to take super dangerous and addictive drugs.
>oxalate
Hello kidney stones
I was diagnose with depression during covid because of lockdowns and I started with prozac. Didn't like it and told my therapist I was going to get off it and they were like "are you sure? there may be side effects!" as if the medication itself doesn't have side effects. If depression is a chemical imbalance in the brain then I can balance it by going to the gym and giving my brain natural happy chemicals from working out and getting some sunlight and shit. Stop taking SSRIs you fricking morons, you probably don't need them.
>Didn't like it and told my therapist I was going to get off it
Good for you anon.
In a series of recent studies, negative emotions were associated with increased disability due to mental and physical disorders,22 increased incidence of depression,23 increased suicide24 and increased mortality25 up to 2 decades later. Positive emotions protected against these outcomes. A recent review including meta-analyses assessed cross-sectional, longitudinal and experimental studies and concluded that happiness is associated with and precedes numerous successful outcomes
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2077351/
this shit did nothing for me.
It only improved once I started lifting and riding motorcycles
Anyone else here on buproprion? Giving it a try after prozac/fluoxitine didnt do shit. I feel vaguely more inclined to do things but thats it so far after a bit over 2 weeks
bupropion is great compared to lexapro. the trick is to combo them. you get the mild contentness from bupropion with the absolute no fricks from lexapro that resolves in a permanent mild content.
or ya know, just do dmt like once and probably be better off. your call o/
>jewmericans searching once more for drugs to "fix" imaginary problems
you are brainwashed beyond salvation.
getting an erection now requries more willpower, or atleast makes you not feel like a horny teenager, for some that is a plus, for older people i guess, thats a minus. also i last way longer in bed now, that's a plus.
>*helps you talks to girls and finally get a gf*
i used ssris a bit in my teens.
i got bullied a lot for being a weirdo and it seemed like something i just had to put up with, not something i could fix if i changed behaviours.
i ended up kind of hollowed out and miserable and probably stayed home more days than i went because the stress gave me agonizing abdominal pain.
the ssris did help. i became somewhat more functional and they made room to feel positive things sometimes.
i cycled through a bunch and they seemed to be decreasingly effective rather than more.
eventually it didn't seem worth it to get the re-fill so i weaned myself off of them.
i don't think they are NECESSARY in that the stuff you need to do to get out of that is not take the drug.
but taking the drug might be the only feasible way you get yourself into a position where you can fix your life.
Non antidepressant user here. Has anyone tried Tianeptine? A lot of people report better results compared to the conventional antidepressants, plus it's unscheduled in many parts of the world.
>*kill your sexdrive*
I got on lexapro and like 10 Xanax pills when I was on the verge of suicide. I quit the lexapro because it dulled my emotions and it didn’t seem to help. I didn’t feel more productive. Im having a tough time again, I get really anxious at night and have moments where I feel really unstable. Aspirin seems to help but I have no idea how to help myself. I workout, eat right, drink water, and so on. I might try a therapist/psychiatrist again.