For abs, does it matter if I have to do the baby version of hanging leg raises?

For abs, does it matter if I have to do the baby version of hanging leg raises? I can't hang long enough to do all my reps.

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Bro, unless you're doing like 50 reps, surely you can hang for 30-40 seconds. But yeah, captain's chair or whatever that thing is called is fine.

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Use straps until your grip strength catches up if you want to avoid the baby version. Personally I find the full version to feel much better but I have the same issue so I use straps starting on my second set.

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    There's no real difference between these and hanging leg raises in terms of core activation. Just hang from the bar though and work on your grip strength.

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Isolating abs is moronic

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      no

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    This exercise doesn't train your abs at all. Your abs are for moving your upper body relative to your pelvic bone, not your legs

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Your abs are virutally impossible to isolate apart from hip flexors and they are designed to work cooperatively together. Even if they aren't actively moving they are hugely active to stabilize the body during any type of hip flexion movement.
      Would you tell somebody the inverse, that erectors aren't worked during squats, deadlift or OHP since it's the hip extending and not the spine?
      If it's really that big a deal you can raise your legs higher like a toe-to bar at which point you physiologically are forced to tuck your pelvis and work the abs and hip flexors.

      https://i.imgur.com/CCcF7W8.jpg

      For abs, does it matter if I have to do the baby version of hanging leg raises? I can't hang long enough to do all my reps.

      No, the only thing that matters is that you make progress and eventually get to something like that. You can get an ankle weight or a cable attachment ankle strap and just perform unilateral knee drive/hip flexion if you are too weak, just find something.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      This is true

      Your abs are virutally impossible to isolate apart from hip flexors and they are designed to work cooperatively together. Even if they aren't actively moving they are hugely active to stabilize the body during any type of hip flexion movement.
      Would you tell somebody the inverse, that erectors aren't worked during squats, deadlift or OHP since it's the hip extending and not the spine?
      If it's really that big a deal you can raise your legs higher like a toe-to bar at which point you physiologically are forced to tuck your pelvis and work the abs and hip flexors.
      [...]
      No, the only thing that matters is that you make progress and eventually get to something like that. You can get an ankle weight or a cable attachment ankle strap and just perform unilateral knee drive/hip flexion if you are too weak, just find something.

      You may have a point that its impossible to isolate abs, but leg lifts are still >90% hip flexors.

      Just use the ab roller. Buy a ab roller and then google how to use it properly.

      https://i.imgur.com/CCcF7W8.jpg

      For abs, does it matter if I have to do the baby version of hanging leg raises? I can't hang long enough to do all my reps.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Are you dumb? Think about what you just said and then recommended:
        When using an ab roller the spine doesn't move at all, or if it does it is minimal, there is way more potential for spinal movement in a leg raise than doing an ab roller.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          I dont know anything about this "your spine has to move to get a good ab work out" I am just speaking from experience as someone who owns a power tower, an ab roller, and does a lot of kicking martial arts that use my hip flexors a ton.

          If I do 100 ab rolls in proper posture I feel it smach in the middle of my abs, and my abs become much more visible.

          If I do leg raises I feel it exactly at the top of my leg where the femur connects to the hip; where the hip flexor passed over.

          Leg raises are all hip flexor. Having a tight an stable core helps, sure, but it helps when doing nearly any exercise. Leg raises are not really targeting your abs.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Your abs are virutally impossible to isolate apart from hip flexors and they are designed to work cooperatively together. Even if they aren't actively moving they are hugely active to stabilize the body during any type of hip flexion movement.
      Would you tell somebody the inverse, that erectors aren't worked during squats, deadlift or OHP since it's the hip extending and not the spine?
      If it's really that big a deal you can raise your legs higher like a toe-to bar at which point you physiologically are forced to tuck your pelvis and work the abs and hip flexors.
      [...]
      No, the only thing that matters is that you make progress and eventually get to something like that. You can get an ankle weight or a cable attachment ankle strap and just perform unilateral knee drive/hip flexion if you are too weak, just find something.

      This is true

      [...]
      You may have a point that its impossible to isolate abs, but leg lifts are still >90% hip flexors.

      Just use the ab roller. Buy a ab roller and then google how to use it properly. [...]

      You have to curl way more than this image suggests. I'm talking butthole pointing at the wall in front of you. Trust me, you'll feel it in your abs.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        That's just called a toes-to-bar

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Correct. Hollow body crunch is the king of ab isolations.

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I can do flags, knee raises, leg raises, whatever the thing is called when you start in dead hang pull-up and then pull yourself to a horizontal line.

    Knee raises hit my abs better than the rest of them. And by changing the position my legs / knees are angled and aligned I can hit specific abs harder than others, which is great because I have a hard time targeting lower abs otherwise.

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Just keep hanging in there, your grip strength will improve and you’ll also strengthen your back and improve your shoulder mobility in the process.

    Start with knee raises and work your way to toe-to-bar’s or whatever that CrossFit shit is. Yes, I know CrossFit is a meme but that shit actually hits abs really well.

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Do these really build abs? I have one attached to my dip and pullup tower. I've done it a few times but it doesn't seem hardcore enough to make good gains.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Do hanging toe to bars.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        when I'm actually able to reach the bar, is that all I'll need for abs?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Most people don't do them right. Think of it more as a curl for your whole body than 'leg raises'. Really try to bend your stomach in half.

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