For years, I had a phobia about going to the gym.

I finally managed to overcome my fear 1 and a half year ago. I don't know if people are prone to this kind of anxiety, maybe some scroll through this board and dream of going to the gym but don't go for fear.

I'll answer your questions.

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    shoot ma homie

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    how are the results so far

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Not great to be honest, I was expecting to have a somewhat athletic physique after a year and a half, but in the end I just went from gross skinnyfat mode to slightly less gross skinny mode (with +10kg on the scale). Let's just say I've improved, but if I go shirtless, you'd never say I go to the gym (you'd say I didn't do anything, but you wouldn't necessarily say my body is disgusting).

      I don't think I've got very good genetics, and above all I have major difficulties with certain crucial points in lifting: form and feel. I simply can't feel my muscles when I'm training, and I don't get any soreness (unless I start again after a 2-week vacation) even though I push myself to failure. For example? I've gone from 0 pull-ups to 16/13/11/10, but my back hasn't moved one iota, and I don't feel my back at all for example. I can't explain it myself.

      But you know what, I've come so far psychologically that I'm not ready to give up. I'm going to hang in there and see how far it takes me.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Inspiring post bro
        >I was expecting to have a somewhat athletic physique after a year and a half, but in the end I just went from gross skinnyfat mode to slightly less gross skinny mode
        That's weird. You should be at least ottermode
        >I simply can't feel my muscles when I'm training
        Include isolations for the target muscles in big compounds in your warmup. Like before you do bench press, be sure to include some light pump work for the chest, triceps, and front delts. You'll start feeling the muscle a lot better
        >I don't get any soreness
        You're not supposed to after the first few weeks. If someone is feeling sore all the time then it means their overdoing it
        >I've gone from 0 pull-ups to 16/13/11/10, but my back hasn't moved one iota
        It's very hard to believe that you made no noticeable back gains if you can do that many pullups. Very impressive strength gains though bro
        >But you know what, I've come so far psychologically that I'm not ready to give up. I'm going to hang in there and see how far it takes me.
        This is why you'll succeed where others have failed anon

        https://i.imgur.com/A2HKKba.jpeg

        I finally managed to overcome my fear 1 and a half year ago. I don't know if people are prone to this kind of anxiety, maybe some scroll through this board and dream of going to the gym but don't go for fear.

        I'll answer your questions.

        What's been your routine at the gym recently? Did you start with something small so you wouldn't feel as intimidated?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >That's weird. You should be at least ottermode

          That's my body when I started (August 2022), as you can see, pretty gross. I'll post my evolution in a following post.

          > Include isolations for the target muscles in big compounds in your warmup. Like before you do bench press, be sure to include some light pump work for the chest, triceps, and front delts. You'll start feeling the muscle a lot bette

          I think I'm already doing that, I do some warmup of my triceps with some barbells and I do 2 sets of push-ups on the bench, along with the usual progressive overload until I reach the weight I will work on.

          > You're not supposed to after the first few weeks. If someone is feeling sore all the time then it means their overdoing it

          That's what I always thought, until I chatted with a guy who has a good physique and is pretty obsessed with bodybuilding. He was telling me that it's weird not to feel sore after every session and that it's a good indicator that you've given it your all. He felt that if I never had any, it was a problem and that I had to sort it out.

          > It's very hard to believe that you made no noticeable back gains if you can do that many pullups. Very impressive strength gains though bro

          Thanks for the compliment! I'm happy too, I had a real complex about not knowing how to make a single one because when I started out I was teased a bit on the forums because of it. The problem is that apparently it's possible for me to do these pull-ups (and back exercises in general) by pulling with my arms instead of mobilizing my back. This would explain why I'm progressing in weight without my back developing.

          > This is why you'll succeed where others have failed anon

          I don't believe in merit. Just because I've overcome a fear doesn't mean I deserve to get through it any more than anyone else. First of all, because my fear was stupid. Secondly, just because I've managed to overcome my fears doesn't mean that I'm "made" to succeed in bodybuilding.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I don't feel my muscles burning, even during the last ultra-difficult rep
            Then it just means you're not applying the correct amount of resistance obviously

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              What does it mean then? I'm confused

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Its perfectly clear

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Since I started in September 2022, I have followed four different routines: a first FullBody from September 2022 to January 2023, a kind of Split (Upper/Lower/Rest/Chest+Back/Lower 2/Shoulders+Arms) from January 2023 to August 2023, a routine focused on mind-muscle connection (since everyone was pestering me with the idea that 'feeling your muscles is important and if you don’t feel them, you're doing something wrong') from September 2023 to January 2024, and since January 2024, I am back on a more classic routine (because the proprioception program had virtually no effect on me, I was unable to feel my back and chest in 4 months of training).

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        soreness is just lactic acid.
        use explosive force on the accentric (the actual lift part) and controlled and slow on yhe decentric (the lowering part, depending on lift). are you aiming for hypertrophy? you should be aiming to get 10+ reps and REALLY struggle on the last rep per set. for example if you can comfortably do a set of 15 reps, it’s too light for you.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          its not, DOMS has nothing to do with lactid acid

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I train on sets ranging from 8 to 15, depending on the exercise. In any case, as far as muscle soreness is concerned, I've already spoken to some high-level people who said everything and its opposite: my buddy who made my current routine and who's been following me since I started told me that it's normal not to have any once you're used to lifting, but others (more of a minority but no less high-level) consider that it's still important.

          On the other hand, when it comes to SENSATIONS while you're doing an exercise, the consensus is more pronounced: if you never feel anything, people will tell you that you're doing something wrong. Now, I've already checked my executions 40,000 times, I've filmed myself, I've done supervised sessions with coaches and so on. With a few rare exceptions (seated leg curl, leg extensions, certain triceps exercises) I don't feel my muscles burning, even during the last ultra-difficult rep. This is especially true for my upper body. I have better sensations on my lower than upper.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            the soreness can of course also be loosely used as a marker of “did i go hard enough”, i agree with that tbh. as for the “feel” when lifting weights, i dunno what to tell you. i assume you’re natty. dont be fooled by PED using influencers and randos on the internet who suddenly go from chud to chad within a year. progress is SLOW. building muscle tissue volume is SLOW. that’s just how it is. a year is nothing really. all you can do is keep getting stronger. mass moves mass.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              The problem is twofold: 1) people get visual results and strength gains much faster than I do 2) even beginners have good sensations

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                WHO cares what people do

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                At first I didn't wonder about this aspect of sensations, it's just that when I read what others were saying and listened to what people were telling me when I talked about my lack of sensations, I said to myself that something was wrong.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                what if they're just wrong???
                some many people have opinions, they project their reality thats all, doesn't mean its valid for you

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, that's the whole point, and it doesn't just apply to the subject of sensations. But if most of the people you talk to on the subject say the same thing, maybe something's wrong.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                But if its not an issue that stems from you i don't get how it can affect you, that would be their problem not yours

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                What do you mean? I don't know if the lack of sensation is a problem in itself, if I hadn't read that people felt their muscles when they worked out I probably never would have thought of it (at least for the upper body, because as I said I feel my lower body correctly). It's the others who tell me that they think it's a problem because it means (according to them) I'm doing something wrong.

                I don't know if this lack of sensation is OBJECTIVELY a problem or if it's just SUBJECTIVELY perceived as a problem by the others. What I've noticed is that I'm slowly increasing my loads and, above all, my body still looks mediocre (= DYEL as you would say). Sometimes there's even a disconnect between my performance and how this muscle look like (= people expect me to have a better back, given my pull-up performance, but my back hasn't really dev eloped since I started). At the moment, I'm unable to establish correlations or causal links, I'm just asking myself questions, and I'm inevitably influenced by all those people who tell me that sensations are the sinews of war.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >What do you mean? I don't know if the lack of sensation is a problem in itself, if I hadn't read that people felt their muscles when they worked out I probably never would have thought of it
                thats what i mean, then its not a problem for you

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Just because you're not aware of a problem doesn't mean it doesn't exist. If sensations are crucial to progress and I'm not aware of them, that doesn't mean they aren't crucial.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                bro frick you
                fricking trollers on this goddamn degenerate board
                KYS

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Sorry if I misunderstood something

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I think anon meant to say is that you have no problem until it is a problem that YOU unveil on your own

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                What you mean is that we shouldn't listen to what others think is a problem in our practice but wait to find out for ourselves what's wrong with our practice?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                yes of course thats the only way you can truly learn something, if we were to take at heart every single thing that people are saying we wouldn't do anything, especially when thoses things don't resonate at all with your reality

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm thinking that normally feeling your muscle burn if you subject it to mechanical tension should be a normal physiological reaction.

                I'm also thinking that maybe people overestimate their sensations (or that I underestimate mine) and, above all, present themselves as people who felt everything right from the start, when in fact it's a gradual process for most people (with a few exceptions, genetic predispositions in favor of bodybuilding or with a long background in sports).

                What's more, I'm thinking that since I started lifting at the age of 23 with no prior background in sports whatsoever, maybe that doesn't help either (sleepy body? faulty mind-muscle connection due to little use of my body during childhood and adolescence?)

                That's what I think of this subject, if I try to distance myself a little from the speeches of people who often claim to have a perfect practice where all the lights are green without ever having proof of it.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                i don't understand your point, what if someone feels their muscle burning more, what does that add??? nothing
                if that was related in any way to gaining more muscle you would see it everywhere

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It correlates highly with other factors known to gain muscle (novel stimulus, intensity, recovery)
                It might cause muscle growth on it's own, but so far there's no obvious mechanism for that

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                uhhh no ?? where did you get that idea from

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                homosexual argue with something specific I said

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >what if someone feels their muscle burning more, what does that add???

                Apparently, it proves 1) that you are effectively recruiting the muscle you're supposed to (if you feel your triceps burning on a triceps exercise, for example) and 2) that you're pushing hard enough for your triceps to burn, meaning you're gauging your effort well and your session will be beneficial.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Apparently? who ever said that
                you got it twisted bro, burn means jackshit, you can make your muscle burn with 4lbs dumdbells doing high reps, the burn is totally unrelated to building muscle or correct training altogether
                you're so wrong here i'm doubting you even train

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, the burn needs to appear at the end of a set with a weight heavy enough to challenge you, and this set should be roughly between 8 and 15 repetitions (a set of 40 repetitions at 2kg won't do anything indeed). What I mean is that if you lift a weight heavy enough for you to be able to do only between 8 and 15 repetitions, and the last repetition is hard but you don't feel a burn, apparently that's a bad sign

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I train on sets ranging from 8 to 15, depending on the exercise. In any case, as far as muscle soreness is concerned, I've already spoken to some high-level people who said everything and its opposite: my buddy who made my current routine and who's been following me since I started told me that it's normal not to have any once you're used to lifting, but others (more of a minority but no less high-level) consider that it's still important.
            As long as you're going close to failure (1-3 reps in reserve) and progressing each week then soreness doesn't matter.
            All getting sore does is guarantee that you're doing enough. It's a lot more important for people who are already at the limits of their anatomy than a 1 year lifter

            >On the other hand, when it comes to SENSATIONS while you're doing an exercise, the consensus is more pronounced
            It depends on the muscle, the exercise and the rep range. If you're doing high (15+) rep counts and you don't feel anything as you get close to failure then you're almost certainly not working hard enough.
            If it's low reps and low sets on big muscles then they'll probably just give out without any kind of burning. You'll have to drop set to get a good burn out of them
            It's also just harder for beginners to push their muscles as hard as experienced lifters do so you don't get them as close to failure as you think - particularly for low reps

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I'm posting here all the exercises I do and all my weights, along with sensations

              Bench press: 65kg --> No sensation at all, regardless of load or difficulty

              Pull-ups: 16/13/11/10 (best score) --> No sensations at all, I just feel my arms pulling towards the end, which are tired, but nothing quivering in the back

              Dips: 12/12/10/10 (best score) --> I feel that it's tough on the triceps but there isn't a burning sensation per se. However, when I finish the set and let go of the parallel bars, I feel my triceps intensely for a moment (as if they're releasing pressure)

              Cable row: 52kg --> I feel my back a bit when I do it lightly, but as soon as I put on my working load, I don't feel anything anymore
              Arm curl (it's a machine): 41kg --> I definitely feel the burn when I go light, but as soon as I lift heavy, I don't feel much anymore. However, I think that's an issue with the positioning of my humerus, and I've already identified this problem

              Squat: 100kg --> Good burn if I do long sets of more than 20 repetitions with light weight, but in sets of 8 with an appropriate workload, I don't feel anything anymore

              Leg press: 105kg (with maximum range possible) --> Good burn if I set the machine for maximum range of motion; then it's the machine's setting that does everything.

              Walking lunges: 24kg per hand --> Good sensations without being breathtaking; I think my quadriceps are already burnt out at this stage of the session

              Lying Leg curl: 54kg --> I rarely feel it; it depends, sometimes it appears during a session unexpectedly. I feel much better on the seated machine, but the seated machine only adjusts well at the gym in my parents' town, and I rarely go there.

              Crunches --> Usually, I feel them well right from the first rep, but that also varies a bit depending on the session; it's quite unpredictable

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                OHP: 27,5kg (yes, very low, I really struggle to make progress on that) --> So either I'm completely missing the shoulder sensations, or I really don't feel anything, but for me, I feel nothing in this exercise

                Lateral raises: 10kg --> Before, I could really feel my shoulders, but now I don't. Maybe because it's too heavy?

                Triceps pushdown with V-bar: 41kg --> For the triceps, there was a big before and after my proprioception program from September 2023 to January 2024. Before, I never felt my triceps during triceps exercises, but now I feel them well, especially the intense burn on the last rep

                Pec fly: 59kg --> I can clearly see that the pecs are contracting, but even when struggling with the last rep, there isn't a BURN per se. At least, I wouldn't call it a burn. I just feel that it's an exercise for the pecs, but nothing more.

                Bent over barbell : 45kg --> Weird exercise. When I did it with a friend, I could really feel my back, but when I do it alone, I feel nothing, so there's probably an issue with how I'm executing it, though I'm not sure what. In any case, even when going to failure, I feel absolutely nothing in my back

                Vertical Cable Pull-down: 62kg --> I can feel my back burning when I use light weights, starting from the first reps. However, the heavier I go to approach my working load, the more that sensation disappears

                Incline curl: 12kg --> I don't feel anything, but with other programs that were structured differently and with a slower tempo, I used to get intense burns. But anyway, it's an exercise where I've been stagnating since the beginning of my practice, and I don't know why

                Preacher curl: 12 --> same as above

                Leg extensions: 59kg --> The only exercise along with the seated leg curl where I get intense burning sensations from the first rep, no matter what I do, even if I'm sitting poorly on the seat. It's so intense that it sends shivers through my whole body. Nothing else to add, really

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                OHP: 27,5kg (yes, very low, I really struggle to make progress on that) --> So either I'm completely missing the shoulder sensations, or I really don't feel anything, but for me, I feel nothing in this exercise

                Lateral raises: 10kg --> Before, I could really feel my shoulders, but now I don't. Maybe because it's too heavy?

                Triceps pushdown with V-bar: 41kg --> For the triceps, there was a big before and after my proprioception program from September 2023 to January 2024. Before, I never felt my triceps during triceps exercises, but now I feel them well, especially the intense burn on the last rep

                Pec fly: 59kg --> I can clearly see that the pecs are contracting, but even when struggling with the last rep, there isn't a BURN per se. At least, I wouldn't call it a burn. I just feel that it's an exercise for the pecs, but nothing more.

                Bent over barbell : 45kg --> Weird exercise. When I did it with a friend, I could really feel my back, but when I do it alone, I feel nothing, so there's probably an issue with how I'm executing it, though I'm not sure what. In any case, even when going to failure, I feel absolutely nothing in my back

                Vertical Cable Pull-down: 62kg --> I can feel my back burning when I use light weights, starting from the first reps. However, the heavier I go to approach my working load, the more that sensation disappears

                Incline curl: 12kg --> I don't feel anything, but with other programs that were structured differently and with a slower tempo, I used to get intense burns. But anyway, it's an exercise where I've been stagnating since the beginning of my practice, and I don't know why

                Preacher curl: 12 --> same as above

                Leg extensions: 59kg --> The only exercise along with the seated leg curl where I get intense burning sensations from the first rep, no matter what I do, even if I'm sitting poorly on the seat. It's so intense that it sends shivers through my whole body. Nothing else to add, really

                What you're describing sounds fairly typical. You can chase the burn harder if you want but if you're progressing then it doesn't matter. You can get it artificially if you slow down your rep tempo and use lighter weights, although it won't inherently cause more growth.
                I'm guessing based on your numbers that you normally train to failure (i.e. you physically can't do another set)?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, I go to failure everywhere (or at least up to the point my form becomes too shitty it isn't worth to keep lifting the weight, this is quite subjective). Here's my current routine and how exercises and organized :

                Day 1 Upper:

                Bench Press: 4 sets of 6-8 reps
                Pronated Pull-ups: 4 sets of 6-10 reps at body weight
                Dips: 4 sets of 8-12 reps
                Low Cable Row: 3 sets of 8-12 reps
                Arm curl: 3x8-12

                Day 2 Lower 1:

                Squat: 4 sets of 6-8 reps
                Leg Press: 4 sets of 8-12 reps
                Dumbbell Walking Lunges: 3 sets of 8-12 reps
                Lying Leg Curl: 4 sets of 8-12 reps
                Machine Crunches: 4 sets of 10-15 reps

                Day 3 Rest

                Day 4 Push:

                Barbell Bench Press: 4 sets of 6-8 reps
                Dips: 4 sets of 8-12 reps
                Military Press: 3 sets of 6-10 reps
                Lateral Raises: 3 sets of 10-15 reps
                Triceps Pushdown with V-bar: 3 sets of 8-12 reps
                Pec Fly Machine: 3 sets of 8-12 reps

                Day 5 Pull:

                Pronated Pull-ups: 4 sets of 6-10 reps
                Single-Arm Dumbbell Row: 3 sets of 6-10 reps
                Vertical Cable Pull-down with Pronated Grip: 4 sets of 8-12 reps
                Low Cable Row: 3 sets of 8-12 reps
                Incline Curl: 3 sets of 8-12 reps
                Dumbbell Preacher Curl: 3 sets of 8-12 reps

                Day 6 Lower 2:

                Squat: 4 sets of 6-8 reps
                Leg Press with Calf Raises: 3 sets of 8-12 reps + 3 sets of 10-15 reps
                Weighted Lumbar Hyperextensions: 3 sets of 8-12 reps
                Lying Leg Curl: 3 sets of 8-12 reps
                Leg Extensions: 3 sets of 10-15 reps
                Hanging Leg Raises: 4 sets, as many reps as possible (AMRAP)

                Day 7 Rest

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You don't know how to train homosexual

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Looks like a fine routine without any clear imbalances.
                As long as you're progressing all of the other shit is just for fun.

                It might be worth mixing in some high rep stuff every now and then since it seems like you're almost entirely focused on low rep counts - maybe dropping down to some 20-25 rep sets at the end of certain exercises - but again that'd only be for fun

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >You can chase the burn harder if you want but if you're progressing then it doesn't matter

                Indeed, for four months I followed a mind/muscle connection routine with a coach who is a moderator on one of the largest French lifting forums online, and I didn’t see much in terms of results. I decided to stop because the routine was frustrating me, as the goal was to use light weights and perform slow movements with positive, static, and negative phases broken down to focus well on the movement. Actually, the problem was mainly that his routine required a huge amount of concentration but aside from that, neither my strength nor my physique was improving. What raised a red flag for me was realizing that the concept of a 'proprioception-focused routine' didn’t really seem to exist and I was the only one doing it. Plus, as I said, this routine required extreme concentration; I had to focus on the muscle each time, try to visualize it, etc. But no matter how much I did it, the sensations didn’t come, particularly in the chest and back. So yes, I've already been trying to "chase the burn harder" but without much success.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I think it's fine for some people - I've known a lot of beginner lifters who were inadvertantly using bent rows or pushups as a shoulder exercise because of bad form - but it should always be paired with actual concrete progression in weight or reps as the primary focus

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I was also supposed to gain strength with this routine, but it was organized differently. For example, instead of doing my bench press in 4 sets of 8 reps at 60kg, I had to start with a first set at 30kg with a slow tempo (holding the negative phase and the positive phase for several seconds), a second heavier set, and a third even heavier set. There was progressive overload throughout the sets, which was not at all how I used to train initially

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You don't get the effects of muscle gain that quickly. Progressive overload is something you do over weeks, not minutes

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes this board is full of people like this
    losers

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    troony

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    (15 reps with good form of course)

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You overcame your fear of what exactly?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Black people. The gym is crowded with those things

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Rereading what I said on the forums 4-5 years ago, what comes back is mainly the fear of being judged and of people noticing my fragility. Given that I was aware that my strength was at an all-time low and that I'd probably be lost at first when it came to using machines and performing compound exercises, I was really afraid that people would notice and point it out to me. I was afraid of embarrassing myself.

      Then, in 2021, I started doing a few sessions with a guy I didn't know but who frequented the same bodybuilding forum as me. The problem was that he was quite condescending to me during our sessions, telling me "you realize, it's not normal not to know how to do X or Y...". You see the type of guy? No direct mockery, but rather judgment, the attitude of the guy who is outraged and circumspect in the face of such mediocrity, and who does not hesitate to tell you about it. I must admit that this has heightened my phobia: even though he helped me to become accustomed to the 'gym' environment, I didn’t feel capable of going there alone, because I was afraid of not being able to be independent, given all the things he pointed out that were wrong.

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Put me on the screencap

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    are you cute?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I don't know haha

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I don't know haha
        Yep, that's a no.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          🙁

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            you're ugly
            afraid
            and you have no results

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Yes

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I had major cardiophobia for about ten years that I recently mostly overcame. AMA

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    OP, all i hear is

    >I overcame
    >I go to the gym regular
    >I am making significant strength gains
    >my suffering from muscle aches is minimal
    >I’ve been doing it for a year and a half and haven’t given up
    >I am doing what 90% of the population won’t do

    Keep up the solid work mate

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Thank you so much for your support! It's heartwarming to read that! I'm sorry if I sound like I'm complaining, but the thread has taken a bit of a detour when I initially wanted to focus on the phobia theme.

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