FRICKING GROW WTF. IM SO CLOSE TO FRICKING ROIDING. THESE FRICKING THINFS WONT GROW. EVERYTHING ELSE GROWS

FRICKING GROW WTF
IM SO CLOSE TO FRICKING ROIDING. THESE FRICKING THINFS WONT GROW

EVERYTHING ELSE GROWS

THEY ARE SORE 24/7

BUT THEY DONT

FRICKING

GROW

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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Mine grow more than anything else does. I do flat bench and chest press, flies (all kinds), single arm ohp, lateral raise, cable rows, and face pull, as things that work delts. At least 2 sets of each 2x/week (I usu do 4 of compounds), about 15 reps to failure, eat lots of meat and they almost have to grow.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      post shoulders

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'm anonymous, but like me

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >I'm anonymous
          no you're a pussy

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            i have nice deltoids

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              k
              I don't believe you

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          supes working out with 32 pounds

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            But he was a pioneer in new lifting techniques

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I call this this the external rotator press. This is why you know how to bail before lifting heavy.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Wouldn't it be closer to an inverted cuban press?

        • 2 weeks ago
          I ignore women
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Bro do you have any hobby besides lifting weights?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Several

        k
        I don't believe you

        Not my problem. I mean I'm working on a better physique but delts are the last thing I'm worried about.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          chubby, autistic, probably short, and in your late 20s
          YUCK

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It would contradict my anonymoty to agree or disagree, but just look at the superman picture and do my workout and eat protein, and you will achieve in less than 6 months.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              k
              I don't believe you

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Reeve isn't even that jacked, what's your problem. If I wanted to fake I'd pick Dwayne The Rock Johnson or something.

                always reply to wrong post jeez

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Reeve isn't even that jacked, what's your problem. If I wanted to fake I'd pick Dwayne The Rock Johnson or something.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Bro do you have any hobby besides lifting weights?

      Just to clarify I don't do bench and press or all flies the same day, so a half week's shoulder exercises would be like:

      (push)
      bench
      single arm ohp
      cable fly
      lat raise

      (pull)
      row
      face pull

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Damn Garfield did well for himself when he got rid of that pencil neck geek he used to room with

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Single arm OHP will grow them as long as you actually progress and aren't some late 40s lady that has been doing 15 pounds for the last 10 years.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Same man, those and triceps goes brrrr but I can’t get abs or biceps

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I seem to do well with concentration curls after rows and pulldowns.
        Something like 4x10 4x10 2x10, or a little higher reps.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      same, it looks moronic

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ogg6lcUxlkg

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >IM SO CLOSE TO FRICKING ROIDING
    No you're not. A coward like you could never.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's the same as any other drug bro, wtf does that mean

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >It's the same as any other drug bro
        uh huh, sure thing "bro"

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Normies don't think much of it, I literally talked some dude that didn't even lift into doing a cycle and don't even do it myself

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >don't even do it myself
            Yes, because you're a coward

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Lol do you even know what coward means? If you think lifting weights makes you hard you're definitely b***h made

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Never implied such a thing

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >if you don't do steroids you're a coward
                What were you implying exactly lol

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That is not what you said you said . Don't be obtuse

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You were implying that being a druggie makes you brave. Lol

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >IM SO CLOSE TO FRICKING ROIDING

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Go take your hormone replacement brave boy

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                See? What did i say from the very beginning? Can't fool me.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It involves commitment.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Look at Ryan Humiston on YouTube. His shoulder workout helped me actually hit all heads of the delt.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      His lateral raise modification busted me through a size and strength plateau. Eventually my wrist started limiting the movement and I went back to the unmodified version with way more succes than before.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      His lateral raise modification busted me through a size and strength plateau. Eventually my wrist started limiting the movement and I went back to the unmodified version with way more succes than before.

      Which video? His entire channel is full of atrocious clickbait titles.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Holy shit you weren't kidding, even searching lateral raise on his videos has like 15 results all with equally unhelpful titles

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Idk anymore but he just explained that the three heads have 7 strands and went through what actually activates them. The takeaway for the discerning man is internal rotation. Just internally rotate your shoulders when overhead pressing and now you're using your delts. The rest of the video is just a fake natty adding to the list of useless isolations to worry about and keep checking his content for.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What is your rep scheme like? How many days a week are you hitting delts? What weight? How many rest days? Do you take in sufficient protein post workout?

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    High reps, 3-5 sets, multiple exercises on multiple days a week. Now stop screeching you fricking monkey.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    watching autistic gymcels arguing is hilarious rn

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You want them to grow? I don't want to look like a roider

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >they start growing
    >but only the front delts

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >>they start growing
      >>but only the front delts
      i explained it, here:

      https://i.imgur.com/9fShoud.jpeg

      >THEY ARE SORE 24/7
      ur front delts are overworked constantly with ur moron bench and u had no chance to touch side nor rear delts

      rear delt is in shoulder extension - arm straight along beside ur trunk when on all 4 (all 3 that is with one light db in hand), weight lies entirely on trike in internal shoulder rotation

      side delt is overhead in shoulder flexion, also unilaterally - elbow micro-extensions with internal shoulder rotations - it's that turning elbow back (internal shoulder rotation) that isolates side delt

      just about anything grows to a point with moron movements gym goers were told would work, for delts u need exactly what i wrote to a T, otherwise forget about it 😀

      the flipside is that everything else that seems to sorta work is bs and wrong also
      >no benching works for pecs and pulling grows lats
      it doesn't, u'll get fricked and then ur progress will stall with niggling injuries that seem to never go away - hint: u keep fricking urself up with moron movements that's why u r "constantly" injured, u keep doing it to yourself moron

      >rear delt is in shoulder extension
      8th minute, it was quite promising (emg devices) but ***s banned it and wrote bs "science" papers denying it's efficacy

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >THEY ARE SORE 24/7
    ur front delts are overworked constantly with ur moron bench and u had no chance to touch side nor rear delts

    rear delt is in shoulder extension - arm straight along beside ur trunk when on all 4 (all 3 that is with one light db in hand), weight lies entirely on trike in internal shoulder rotation

    side delt is overhead in shoulder flexion, also unilaterally - elbow micro-extensions with internal shoulder rotations - it's that turning elbow back (internal shoulder rotation) that isolates side delt

    just about anything grows to a point with moron movements gym goers were told would work, for delts u need exactly what i wrote to a T, otherwise forget about it 😀

    the flipside is that everything else that seems to sorta work is bs and wrong also
    >no benching works for pecs and pulling grows lats
    it doesn't, u'll get fricked and then ur progress will stall with niggling injuries that seem to never go away - hint: u keep fricking urself up with moron movements that's why u r "constantly" injured, u keep doing it to yourself moron

    >rear delt is in shoulder extension
    8th minute, it was quite promising (emg devices) but ***s banned it and wrote bs "science" papers denying it's efficacy

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Don't listen to medial delt schizo here.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        and what is wrong with what he said bot?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Village moron has entered the chat

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        yes ur thread bot is dead, u can now abandon it and post some more porn or sth - idk, u do u bot

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >>no benching works for pecs and pulling grows lats
      it doesn't, u'll get fricked and then ur progress will stall with niggling injuries that seem to never go away - hint: u keep fricking urself up with moron movements that's why u r "constantly" injured, u keep doing it to yourself moron

      What are you advising here? Are you saying not to bench or to keep doing bench?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      omg i did it and it works ! side and rear delt literally grew overnight
      >it's swelling and glycogen
      i like it also lol 😀 gunna take it easier next time 😀
      > w8 till u notice uintended flex whnever u move ur hand in a t shirt 😀

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Medial delt schizo aka bottot anon has arrived. Evacuate the thread.

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Lol people don’t even notice you lift yet you’re worried about „underdeveloped“ side delts. You’re just a dyel dumbass, everything about you is small.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Lol people don’t even notice you lift yet you’re worried about „underdeveloped“ side delts.
      no bot, it's just that regular gymbro routine produces EXACTLY what OP describes

      1) Post volume and frequency. Not just delts but also push and pull exercises. The whole routine if possible (bet it's some moron brosplit/badly programmed PPL)
      2) Desperate time calls for desperate measures:
      -replace all barbell OHP with BTN press
      -replace all machine/DB shoulder press with Arnold press, do a few reps of normal DB shoulder press every set once you've Arnold press to failure
      -replace lateral raises with DB Lu raises or cable Y raises, upright rows with high hang muscle snatch, and do a few reps of lateral raises/upright rows every set once you've Lu raises/Y raises/high hang muscle snatch to failure
      -perform all of them with slow eccentric and myo-reps
      -if possible, super set side delts isolation with face pull and feel your side delts explode

      >lotta bs
      see OP? u simply did not impinge hard enough 😀

      https://i.imgur.com/SYUY3Bk.png

      [...]
      Just to clarify I don't do bench and press or all flies the same day, so a half week's shoulder exercises would be like:

      (push)
      bench
      single arm ohp
      cable fly
      lat raise

      (pull)
      row
      face pull

      if any human is reading this:
      it's physically impossible to isolate (get to, destroy, "do", provide stimulus required for hypertrophy - all synonyms) side nor rear delt when resistance is transferred through bicep tendon, it must be on tricep tendon, like so:

      https://i.imgur.com/9fShoud.jpeg

      >THEY ARE SORE 24/7
      ur front delts are overworked constantly with ur moron bench and u had no chance to touch side nor rear delts

      rear delt is in shoulder extension - arm straight along beside ur trunk when on all 4 (all 3 that is with one light db in hand), weight lies entirely on trike in internal shoulder rotation

      side delt is overhead in shoulder flexion, also unilaterally - elbow micro-extensions with internal shoulder rotations - it's that turning elbow back (internal shoulder rotation) that isolates side delt

      just about anything grows to a point with moron movements gym goers were told would work, for delts u need exactly what i wrote to a T, otherwise forget about it 😀

      the flipside is that everything else that seems to sorta work is bs and wrong also
      >no benching works for pecs and pulling grows lats
      it doesn't, u'll get fricked and then ur progress will stall with niggling injuries that seem to never go away - hint: u keep fricking urself up with moron movements that's why u r "constantly" injured, u keep doing it to yourself moron

      >rear delt is in shoulder extension
      8th minute, it was quite promising (emg devices) but ***s banned it and wrote bs "science" papers denying it's efficacy

      so no, not facepulls, no flies, no rows will touch side nor rear delts
      >single arm ohp
      it's front delt, if u internally rotate shoulder (turn elbow back) with arm straight in elbow it's side delt:

      https://i.imgur.com/9fShoud.jpeg

      >THEY ARE SORE 24/7
      ur front delts are overworked constantly with ur moron bench and u had no chance to touch side nor rear delts

      rear delt is in shoulder extension - arm straight along beside ur trunk when on all 4 (all 3 that is with one light db in hand), weight lies entirely on trike in internal shoulder rotation

      side delt is overhead in shoulder flexion, also unilaterally - elbow micro-extensions with internal shoulder rotations - it's that turning elbow back (internal shoulder rotation) that isolates side delt

      just about anything grows to a point with moron movements gym goers were told would work, for delts u need exactly what i wrote to a T, otherwise forget about it 😀

      the flipside is that everything else that seems to sorta work is bs and wrong also
      >no benching works for pecs and pulling grows lats
      it doesn't, u'll get fricked and then ur progress will stall with niggling injuries that seem to never go away - hint: u keep fricking urself up with moron movements that's why u r "constantly" injured, u keep doing it to yourself moron

      >rear delt is in shoulder extension
      8th minute, it was quite promising (emg devices) but ***s banned it and wrote bs "science" papers denying it's efficacy

      >side delt is overhead in shoulder flexion, also unilaterally - elbow micro-extensions with internal shoulder rotations - it's that turning elbow back (internal shoulder rotation) that isolates side delt

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >see OP? u simply did not impinge hard enough 😀
        t. immobility Black person who can't into either full ROM or understanding injuries' nature

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This guy's right, none of the tried and true exercises do anything, you have to use his made up shit like "heil hitlers" if you want results. (Not really.)

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >This guy's right, none of the tried and true exercises do anything
          but they do, i said EXACTLY THIS here:

          https://i.imgur.com/9fShoud.jpeg

          >THEY ARE SORE 24/7
          ur front delts are overworked constantly with ur moron bench and u had no chance to touch side nor rear delts

          rear delt is in shoulder extension - arm straight along beside ur trunk when on all 4 (all 3 that is with one light db in hand), weight lies entirely on trike in internal shoulder rotation

          side delt is overhead in shoulder flexion, also unilaterally - elbow micro-extensions with internal shoulder rotations - it's that turning elbow back (internal shoulder rotation) that isolates side delt

          just about anything grows to a point with moron movements gym goers were told would work, for delts u need exactly what i wrote to a T, otherwise forget about it 😀

          the flipside is that everything else that seems to sorta work is bs and wrong also
          >no benching works for pecs and pulling grows lats
          it doesn't, u'll get fricked and then ur progress will stall with niggling injuries that seem to never go away - hint: u keep fricking urself up with moron movements that's why u r "constantly" injured, u keep doing it to yourself moron

          >rear delt is in shoulder extension
          8th minute, it was quite promising (emg devices) but ***s banned it and wrote bs "science" papers denying it's efficacy

          >just about anything grows to a point with moron movements gym goers were told would work, for delts u need exactly what i wrote to a T, otherwise forget about it 😀

          >see OP? u simply did not impinge hard enough 😀
          t. immobility Black person who can't into either full ROM or understanding injuries' nature

          >t. immobility Black person who can't into either full ROM or understanding injuries' nature
          imbecilo bottotilo 😀 it is the "rage of motion" for rear delt, i can and i do single arm OHP with this end range of externally rotating shoulder at the top (u also bend spine sideways and look away from weight) u pretend u do not do bo
          t
          >"heil hitlers" if you
          😀
          yes, only true lateral head trike isolation: stand with one db, place elbow of free hand on knee, point elbow to sky and there u heil hitler never going completely down not to break time under tension on muscle belly 😀 palm fully pronated

          i do not understand bot, u r just digging yer own hole that much deaper 😀

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You are honestly one of the most pathetic people on IST, and thats saying ALOT considering its website.
            You don't even fricking lift, you literally just post your moronic ESL takes all day. Honestly go fricking have a nice day.
            You aren't "imbalanced" you are small as frick. Notice how no body is ever posted by your moronic ESL ass. What exactly makes a loser like you post all day about fitness content when you literally don't even lift?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            i beg you to post body

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Why have my delts grown with lateral raises?

        Also, post body. Show us how well your delt plan works.

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    1) Post volume and frequency. Not just delts but also push and pull exercises. The whole routine if possible (bet it's some moron brosplit/badly programmed PPL)
    2) Desperate time calls for desperate measures:
    -replace all barbell OHP with BTN press
    -replace all machine/DB shoulder press with Arnold press, do a few reps of normal DB shoulder press every set once you've Arnold press to failure
    -replace lateral raises with DB Lu raises or cable Y raises, upright rows with high hang muscle snatch, and do a few reps of lateral raises/upright rows every set once you've Lu raises/Y raises/high hang muscle snatch to failure
    -perform all of them with slow eccentric and myo-reps
    -if possible, super set side delts isolation with face pull and feel your side delts explode

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Weighted ring dips give me more shoulder pump than any DB isolation.

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    delts are like the most testosterone sensitive muscle group in the body, they should grow without even trying

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    get strong at strict ohp (if you cant you probably have shit technique)

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How to grow shoulders
    >db lat raises
    >cable lat raises
    >HEAVY bb OHP
    >db rear stuff

    simple as, just go heavy with your lat raises once in a while (heavy as in can barely do 3x6)

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    My delts blew up because I was benching wrong for like a year.
    Now I'm benching right and my chest blew up but I have to do ohp+lat raise+bench row+rear delt fly to actually get these things to grow now. Use reps in reserve with delts except on their last set they're a surprisingly slow to recover muscle group.

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    47 posts in and nobody has posted physique. The answer to big delts is and has always been strict OHP. Add some lateral raises (I like Egyptian raises) and rows for rear delt development and you're covered.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I respect the post body but lets be honest

      EVERYONE knows heavy ohp grows big delts,the reason threads like this exists is because people CBA and DONT WANT to do ohp

      its like telling someone who tries to work hard for money to just sell drugs, sure it works but are you mentally strong enough?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        If you're talking about barbell ohp, dumbbells work better anyway.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          moving the goalpost, thats arguing Intel vs AMD when the point is to not cope on consoles

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            But what's so hard about dumbbell ohp? I've never even tried it with a barbell so maybe I'm afraid of it too.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Okay yes but this is also horrible looking dumbbell form. The point of doing single arm OHP is accommodate asymmetrical joint anatomy.
          The path each arm follows should be slightly different. If they aren't you aren't actually getting any benefit compared to barbell since you don't have an asymmetry.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I like to think I have better form. But the reason I do single is because it's easy. Can lift a 50 pound db overhead with both hands, then press it with one. Head also not in the way of bar.
            >but it doesn't isolate deltoid because your body twists and bends to balance weight
            dont care

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          young tom cruise looked good

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            that's Christopher Reeve

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I must preach about OHP regardless

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    wish I had that problem.
    my delts are so much more developed than my chest, which won't grow at all no matter how many flies and dips I do

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      do bench fricking moron
      when you bench 3pl8 for reps, you have big chest

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        you're the fricking moron

        I already bench 3pl8s, but clearly my front delts are taking over my chest on flat bench, that's why i'm also doing flies and dips to isolate chest

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Blasting test grew my delts more than anything

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Bait or moronic? Call it

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        both, delts have a lot of androgen receptors

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If you have poverty shoulders (as I do, they're doomed) the best thing to do is to get lean to the point they show up despite the lack of muscle volume

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    superset ohp, behind the neck, upright rows, front raises, wide grip behind the back shrugs and finish with "shrug rows" using your rear delts behind the back, if the weight of the set barbell is 20kg you do 120 reps back to back, take a breather and go for the next barbell @ 25kg for a total of 150 reps back to back this time, if you cant do it try it the next session. do this for one month and you will be accused of taking steroids. happened to me true story. I can crank out a total of 200reps at 33kilos. 5x5 strength for shoulders "works" if you eat 3000kcal everyday and want to get fat and injured while you wait 2-3years...

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Mine are big and strong for no reason, it might be le genetics

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Genetics majority of it, did you do any sports or manual labor growing up like rugby/football or farm work? Those guys build up shoulders mad fast.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No. I have 3000 hours of CSGO and 1500 dota 2

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I see, so the common static hunchover isometric hold build up your shoulders, lmao, lucked out.

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Have u tried lifting?

  25. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Have you tried working out?

  26. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The deltoids are consistently the most overworked muscle groups in the upper body. If we consider all the exercises the average body builder considers an "arm exercise," a "chest exercise," or a "back exercise" we find out that the deltoids are involved heavily in a good number of them.

    Let's start with the anterior deltoid. When we consider an exercise like the bench press, the anterior head is already working heavily to pull the arms into the vertical position. If we were to replace the bench press with the incline press instead, the anterior head does even more work. If you were to do a superset of pec flyes with incline press to total failure, you would get already quite a stimulus to that muscle. If you were to add on overhead press, front raises, or even any number of other exercises for the shoulders after that superset, you would do nothing but inroad further into your limited recovery ability than necessary for little to no additional benefit.

    The posterior deltoids likewise are used in all back exercises. In fact the primary function of the posterior deltoids is shoulder extension. In other words when someone does a common back exercise like rows, chin-ups, or pull-overs, they are already training the posterior deltoids in their primary function. Any additional work after that inroads into your limited recovery ability.

    The lateral head is perhaps the only head which may need a dedicate exercise to work with. However, when training the lateral head, keep in mind that it is impossible to remove the other two heads any motion that would train them. As such, caution should be taken in programming them into your routine as to prevent yourself from overtraining them

    You're overtraining your shoulders. Take a week off from training to allow your shoulders to recover. Then rearrange your program to reduce the training load on your deltoids when training chest and back. The ideal routine is constructed with these considerations.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      compared to his arms and chest those delts are comically undersized.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The length of the muscle belly affects it's potential size. Mike was not gifted with the length of his deltoids. Whereas someone who has a long muscle belly such as Sergio Oliva who had uniformly long muscle bellies everywhere will have a much greater potential for growth.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Let's start with the anterior deltoid. When we consider an exercise like the bench press, the anterior head is already working heavily to pull the arms into the vertical position
      until it's dead and u get no chest anyways because u did not manage to work it
      >The posterior deltoids likewise are used in all back exercises.
      false, because
      >In fact the primary function of the posterior deltoids is shoulder extension
      which has to be done actively by deltoid muscle and for that u need resistance on triceps tendon, like so:

      https://i.imgur.com/9fShoud.jpeg

      >THEY ARE SORE 24/7
      ur front delts are overworked constantly with ur moron bench and u had no chance to touch side nor rear delts

      rear delt is in shoulder extension - arm straight along beside ur trunk when on all 4 (all 3 that is with one light db in hand), weight lies entirely on trike in internal shoulder rotation

      side delt is overhead in shoulder flexion, also unilaterally - elbow micro-extensions with internal shoulder rotations - it's that turning elbow back (internal shoulder rotation) that isolates side delt

      just about anything grows to a point with moron movements gym goers were told would work, for delts u need exactly what i wrote to a T, otherwise forget about it 😀

      the flipside is that everything else that seems to sorta work is bs and wrong also
      >no benching works for pecs and pulling grows lats
      it doesn't, u'll get fricked and then ur progress will stall with niggling injuries that seem to never go away - hint: u keep fricking urself up with moron movements that's why u r "constantly" injured, u keep doing it to yourself moron

      >rear delt is in shoulder extension
      8th minute, it was quite promising (emg devices) but ***s banned it and wrote bs "science" papers denying it's efficacy

      >>rear delt is in shoulder extension
      >8th minute, it was quite promising (emg devices) but ***s banned it and wrote bs "science" papers denying it's efficacy

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      >rows chinups, pullovers
      resistance is transfered through bicep tendon and u aren't extending shoulder but merely moving out of shoulder flexion
      pullups do frickall for delts lol, very strict rows might make sth lil to delts but u gotta do so much and so strict that u will blow up bicep tendon before any delt grows - i know i have done it 😀
      >keep in mind that it is impossible to remove the other two heads any motion that would train them
      hold my beer lol:

      https://i.imgur.com/9fShoud.jpeg

      >THEY ARE SORE 24/7
      ur front delts are overworked constantly with ur moron bench and u had no chance to touch side nor rear delts

      rear delt is in shoulder extension - arm straight along beside ur trunk when on all 4 (all 3 that is with one light db in hand), weight lies entirely on trike in internal shoulder rotation

      side delt is overhead in shoulder flexion, also unilaterally - elbow micro-extensions with internal shoulder rotations - it's that turning elbow back (internal shoulder rotation) that isolates side delt

      just about anything grows to a point with moron movements gym goers were told would work, for delts u need exactly what i wrote to a T, otherwise forget about it 😀

      the flipside is that everything else that seems to sorta work is bs and wrong also
      >no benching works for pecs and pulling grows lats
      it doesn't, u'll get fricked and then ur progress will stall with niggling injuries that seem to never go away - hint: u keep fricking urself up with moron movements that's why u r "constantly" injured, u keep doing it to yourself moron

      >rear delt is in shoulder extension
      8th minute, it was quite promising (emg devices) but ***s banned it and wrote bs "science" papers denying it's efficacy

      >side delt is overhead in shoulder flexion, also unilaterally - elbow micro-extensions with internal shoulder rotations - it's that turning elbow back (internal shoulder rotation) that isolates side delt
      why elbow micro-extensions? because if u go even for 1/3 "reps" of shoulder presses side delt goes soft and front delt takes over
      >nnnnoooo i said it ain't possible
      u are wrong bot 😀

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Hi, medial delt schizo. Explain to all of us how face pulls are an anterior delt exercise again please.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Explain to all of us
          where is this all of us bot? all i see is u babbling away trying to prove ur lies with many fake voices
          >face pulls are an anterior delt exercise
          they are dumb exercise because front delt is yet again premiery mover and yet again in impingement, resistance must go through tricep tendon to get to side and to rear delt like so:

          https://i.imgur.com/9fShoud.jpeg

          >THEY ARE SORE 24/7
          ur front delts are overworked constantly with ur moron bench and u had no chance to touch side nor rear delts

          rear delt is in shoulder extension - arm straight along beside ur trunk when on all 4 (all 3 that is with one light db in hand), weight lies entirely on trike in internal shoulder rotation

          side delt is overhead in shoulder flexion, also unilaterally - elbow micro-extensions with internal shoulder rotations - it's that turning elbow back (internal shoulder rotation) that isolates side delt

          just about anything grows to a point with moron movements gym goers were told would work, for delts u need exactly what i wrote to a T, otherwise forget about it 😀

          the flipside is that everything else that seems to sorta work is bs and wrong also
          >no benching works for pecs and pulling grows lats
          it doesn't, u'll get fricked and then ur progress will stall with niggling injuries that seem to never go away - hint: u keep fricking urself up with moron movements that's why u r "constantly" injured, u keep doing it to yourself moron

          >rear delt is in shoulder extension
          8th minute, it was quite promising (emg devices) but ***s banned it and wrote bs "science" papers denying it's efficacy

          and with face-pulls it's on bicep tendon 😀 it's basically moron row but standing 😀

          whatever happened here bot?:

          [...]

          >i have abandoned it, doesn't matter anymore
          not so fast boto idioto, we have a followup part:

          [...]

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            moron

            https://i.imgur.com/1P6S5Mv.jpeg

            FRICKING GROW WTF
            IM SO CLOSE TO FRICKING ROIDING. THESE FRICKING THINFS WONT GROW

            EVERYTHING ELSE GROWS

            THEY ARE SORE 24/7

            BUT THEY DONT

            FRICKING

            GROW

            this is what happens when you bench thinking it is enough for shoulders, do some cable raises or ohp with good form and they will grow

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >moron
              idk bout that mate, look, he is also here:

              [...]

              and there's never anything constructive as response, just stupidity and invective, suspicious

              do bench fricking moron
              when you bench 3pl8 for reps, you have big chest

              u can have no chest at all and bench this much easily with just front delts and trike - clarence kennedy bench comes to mind
              >he has chest
              but he doesn't use it, it's extreme close grip

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                you're the fricking moron

                I already bench 3pl8s, but clearly my front delts are taking over my chest on flat bench, that's why i'm also doing flies and dips to isolate chest

                if you want a big chest do wide grip guillotine bench

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wrong. The delts, like the abs, glutes, forearms and calves, can be worked EVERY damn day.

  27. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Program it like bsd on a powerliftimg program. Tone down bench to 2x a week volume so your shoulders don't grind to a paste doing 3-4x ohp + dbs/machines.

    Also military press or steep incline is way better than ohp.

  28. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    God hates me

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      this is salvageable. you need to work on your posture though, not just build muscle.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I don't know how to place my shoulders. I autistically shift them around in public and they feel out of place. If I don't think about them I slump them like a Neanderthal

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          If you do pulls like rows, delt flies, and face pulls you strengthen the muscles that pull (go figure) your shoulders back and your natural posture will probably be better.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          posture goes from the feet to the head. the fact that your shoulders feel out of place has its reasons elsewhere. the entire chain has to be aligned. it's impossible to fix just shoulder posture because it's impossible to have a posture problem in only the shoulders to begin with.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It's probably from my sculliosis, and I think I also have that pelvic tilt shit

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I don't know how to place my shoulders. I autistically shift them around in public and they feel out of place. If I don't think about them I slump them like a Neanderthal

      here, this dude is a savant when it comes to posture.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      homie did you try lifting??

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It honestly makes me sad when people ..ask me this because I lift every other day and this is the best I've looked in my life (was posterchild of skinnyfat)

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          How long have you been lifting for and what are you eating?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I'd say I started February seriously

            Been gaining 2lb a month, most from lean meat

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Oh well then that's nothing to worry about wtf you're fine

  29. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    OHP and lat raises literally all you need

  30. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    My shoulders go brrrrr while the rest of me is skinny lol

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      homie ain't nothing goin brrr on yo body

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        And yet I still look better than you lol

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Aight bro keep telling yoself that

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          doesn't post body

  31. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >they are sore 24/7
    u are training them wrong, u are blasting them with fatigue and not valuable training volume, train them to rir1 with 4-8 reps, moderate volume per week.

  32. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    measure your biacromial breadth to manage your expectations
    if your skeleton isn't wide, consider also prioritizing work to shrink your waist i.e. read the sticky about recomp
    in addition to getting whatever natty gains you can on your deltoid, reducing waist size can help at least with the shoulder-to-waist ratio

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      also
      hairstyle which narrows the appearance of the head
      clothing styles which broaden the appearance of shoulders -- thin or no collars, skinny ties, etc.
      if your frame is narrow that's how you maximize what you got
      >action figure mode

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        pullovers and upright rows increase your shoulder width if done for volume gains over the course of 4-6 months if your test levels haven't declined so far down the bucket yet.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This is meaningless without height though. The dudes in the top 1% could be klinefelter freaks and the dudes at the bottom could be wider than they are tall for all this tells us.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >if I'm not that wide, nobody can be either >there must be something wrong with hem
        >t. crabs-in-bucket cope
        klinefelters isn't that prevalent and one if its effects is actually narrower shoulders

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      also
      hairstyle which narrows the appearance of the head
      clothing styles which broaden the appearance of shoulders -- thin or no collars, skinny ties, etc.
      if your frame is narrow that's how you maximize what you got
      >action figure mode

      Also bigger forearms makes your waist appear narrower which causes your shoulder to appear wider

  33. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >THEY ARE SORE 24/7
    Damn, you're ahead of me. I can't even get proper shoulder doms. Sometimes I'll get some doms on the insertion (deltoid tuberosity) but it's fricking rare.
    I NEVER get doms in the actual muscle belly of my delts like I can with my biceps. So I have no idea wtf is going on.

  34. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Egyptian lateral raises, lying on side lateral raises, standing lateral raises; lying down front delt raises, standing front delt raises, lying face down on incline bench front delt raises; lying on side rear delt flys (one arm at a time), bent over rear delt flys, bent over rear delt raises (elbow locked out and kept close to sides)

    Isolate every section. From every angle.
    /thread

  35. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >/thread on the most dyel post ever made
    Tragic end.

  36. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It’s unironically because you jerk off. Stop jerking off and your androgen receptors begin growing which helps give muscles their mass. Guess where you have one of the highest concentrations of androgen receptors. That’s right your deltoids. That’s why roiders get huge deltoids and masturbators dont. It might lowkey be the best way to determine who is a chronic masturbator just by looking at shoulder size.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Stop jerking off and your androgen receptors begin growing
      What about sex? Why is the loser masturbator throwing out his life force but the Chad sex haver also ejaculates and he's fine?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Because it's bullshit to make you feel more insecure for the lulz.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          This doesn't make sense either. How does "you're small because of this thing you have complete control over, here's a simple solution that will make you big" make you insecure?

  37. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Deeper reps for more stretching?

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