From a biological point of view, why do women prefer face and hair over muscles? It doesn't make sense

From a biological point of view, why do women prefer face and hair over muscles? It doesn't make sense

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    He looks significantly more like a vampire here than he did in Twilight.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Because of better genes. Better looking faces are genetic, better looking people tend to be more successful and often smarter too. You being healthy, determined and having willpower unfortunately doesn't have as much to do with genetics as it has to do with how you were shaped due to the ideas and thoughts you have consumed

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Spbp
      Also, physiognomy. Handsome faces look smart, and intelligence is positively associated with every single facet of success.
      Also, brainwashing by media. Lesser extent, but it's a concept. People used to lust like mad after Alfred Lord Tennyson, so.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Because they don't. It's an incel lookismer and blackpilller's wet dream. All science and research shows the exact opposite.

      This is all dogshit nonsense. You know nothing about genes, you know nothing about sexual selection, you know nothing about evolution or anything, you are a joke.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Cite sources? The only research I've actually seen on the subject showed that women could actually SMELL, off of used tee shirts, men's facial symmetry: they ordered them in order of attractive scent, and it directly paralleled facial symmetry.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Dude stop arguing with them. It's a demoralize raid notice there's like 8 other threads hinting at the same thing. They don't want u to disprove them they want u too give up lifting and feel as bad as them. Stop trying to convince them it's fuel my dude

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Dude stop arguing with them. It's a demoralize raid notice there's like 8 other threads hinting at the same thing. They don't want u to disprove them they want u too give up lifting and feel as bad as them. Stop trying to convince them it's fuel my dude

        you are in the opposite extreme of OP, majority of women do care about face likely more than muscles but they usually care more about the whole package, lifting is by all means good but definitely a muscular body is under face and height on the attractiveness scale, assuming you arent disgustingly skinnyfat or something like that of course

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          They literally don't care about the face at all though.

          Some dudes, with particularly ugly mugs, could have trouble sure. Everything else is your projection.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        you've never spoken to a woman in your life

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >better looking people tend to be more successful and often smarter too
      Not true.
      Only works for wagie corpo jobs where it's all about social circles and acting like being an excel monkey is actual work.
      Look at the wealthiest people in the world - all disgusting garden gnomes that look like they were taken straight out of a shrek movie. Look at the top people in their fields - usually average or ugly autists. Gordon Ramsay looks like melting ice cream, Rogan is a manlet abomination.
      You're really just thinking about actors and pop stars, who are chosen based on their looks 99% of the time because that what fuckin sells.
      And even then, you get ugly people like Adam Driver getting multi-million contracts and getting lead roles.

      >You being healthy, determined and having willpower unfortunately doesn't have as much to do with genetics
      They all actually do. Addiction, enzyme production, tolerance for substances, etc. are all genetic.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        we have literal data that attractiveness correlates with intelligence, you ugly fuck

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I don't know about that, I've worked with 4 surgeons who are extremely good at their job. They are ugly a sin, they sperg out when you don't understand whatever hand signal only they understand, don't want to face patients to explain the procedure they're going to do and why they are in good hands because they either cant, or don't have the patience to. They're intelligent for sure, very successful, and all those 4 had these tall, blonde, trophy wives. Once at a party, one of the surgeon's wife pulled the waiter to dance with her and he just stood there next to the table watching her, shoulders hunched, holding his glass of wine.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Because you only see your muscles when naked, whereas your face and hair are always visible

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Face shows your gene quality better than any other physical attribute

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    it does but i don't feel like explaining it
    not genetics anyway

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It literally does, as it indicates good genes. Anyone can build some muscle.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Back when nobody had lab tests or genomic research to determine health, they just looked at your face.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >he doesn't know about physiognomy

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      One of the most advanced redpills is that physiognomy and phrenology are objectively true sciences. They’re not always perfect but they’re pretty much correct in their grand assumptions. UNESCO and other globalist corrupt organizations started calling those disciplines “pseudosciences” as early as the 1950s, because both asserted stereotypes (that generally remain true) of other races and the spread of phrenology and physiognomy would have eroded public faith in multiculturalism. Genetic determinism is real.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        If phrenology was revitalized as a scientific discipline, it would almost immediately move past the profile-view “regions” of the brain and instead focus on the shape of the skull. Every single person on earth, not deficient in mind or vision, already computes the phrenological value of every single person they meet. Even if you reject every single truth about phrenology, you cannot dispose of the fact that handsome men have good-shaped heads, and the wearers of such heads often command more respect and responsibility.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          You're dumb as fuck bro. I wish you knew how dumb you were

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >dat tautology doe

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Ugly people have it bad enough already there’s no need to bully them further. Their unpleasant looks are punishment enough.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          A genuine husband = low T onions boy
          An unreliable husband = high T warrior skull

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Yes, correct. Your disagreement with the morality of the determination by the phrenologist still supports that phrenology is a valid scientific discipline.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/OSmS3ao.jpg

        If phrenology was revitalized as a scientific discipline, it would almost immediately move past the profile-view “regions” of the brain and instead focus on the shape of the skull. Every single person on earth, not deficient in mind or vision, already computes the phrenological value of every single person they meet. Even if you reject every single truth about phrenology, you cannot dispose of the fact that handsome men have good-shaped heads, and the wearers of such heads often command more respect and responsibility.

        Based man of science

        Are you a doctor anon

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          No just a regular joe

          You're dumb as fuck bro. I wish you knew how dumb you were

          Ask me how I know your skull looks like this?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Lol I have a standard warrior skull. Nothing you're saying is scientific you sound dumb as hell you psuedo scientific looksmaxing retard

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Face is indicative of characteristic. The chinese knew about this for a long time, look into Chinese face reading. Certain personality traits can be seen in the formation of the face. I know that sounds out there, but think about it like this: form = function. The form something takes is what dictates its functionality. A cup can do cup things because its the shape of a cup, a fork can do fork shit and so on and so forth. An extreme example of this is an automobile. All of its moving parts come together in a specific form in order to create the function of automation. If you look look at a man with large muscles, its indicative of strength and at a subconscious level, we can infer certain things about the person.

        https://i.imgur.com/OSmS3ao.jpg

        If phrenology was revitalized as a scientific discipline, it would almost immediately move past the profile-view “regions” of the brain and instead focus on the shape of the skull. Every single person on earth, not deficient in mind or vision, already computes the phrenological value of every single person they meet. Even if you reject every single truth about phrenology, you cannot dispose of the fact that handsome men have good-shaped heads, and the wearers of such heads often command more respect and responsibility.

        Based anon

        You're dumb as fuck bro. I wish you knew how dumb you were

        Shut up retard lol

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Everything you're saying is actual dumbshit. Seriously you arent saying anything concrete or scientific.

          https://i.imgur.com/knyVcmL.jpg

          No just a regular joe

          [...]
          Ask me how I know your skull looks like this?

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Post body

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous
  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    have you ever seen one of those serial killers? their faces are creepy as fuck for a reason. your face is a window into your genes and overall personality

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >ted bundy

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        that dude looked creepy as fuck

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          No he didnt, You are literally being tricked by your own brain to see shit that isnt there because you know hes a psychopathic killer.

          https://i.imgur.com/8HDVOu4.jpg

          Women I know say they see no crazy in this man's eyes. Or say that his eyes are lifeless.
          I see threatening intensity. Maybe women are just dumb.

          He just looks confident. You are perceiving "intensity" because you know hes capable of horrific murder rape.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            don’t gaslight me gay

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Im not gaslighting anyone. its kind of an unfair distinction as I said before because criminals/killers will always look worse because its almost impossible for the human mind to seperate a persons actions from their facial features.
              Once you know Ted Bundy's crimes, you wont be able to see his face the same way again, its just human nature, despite the fact that we know he was charming enough to lure over 30 girls to their deaths and escape suHispanicion literally because he was a handsome straight A law student.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >tfw you honestly believe physiognomy has predictive or explanatory force and isn't just something comfy to watch on youtube as you go to sleep

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Nah there may be a case to be made about beautiful people being treated better so they become generally more upbeat and happy people, but that's the end of it.
        Beautiful people can be degenerate pieces of shit as much as ugly people can be kind and optimistic.
        Your horoscope tier takes are cute to listen to.

        teh dub dubs tho

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        apply to a modelling agency now, you should get hired on the spot no? Physiognomy is bullshit right just hold masculine frame?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Physiognomy doesn't just purport to predict or explain if you can become a model, you dumb bastard. It purports to predict and explain your personality and future and stuff. Yes, some people are better looking than others. That's not physiognomy.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Nah there may be a case to be made about beautiful people being treated better so they become generally more upbeat and happy people, but that's the end of it.
      Beautiful people can be degenerate pieces of shit as much as ugly people can be kind and optimistic.
      Your horoscope tier takes are cute to listen to.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >richard ramirez

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >have you ever seen one of those serial killers?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Serial killers look creepy because you typically see them getting mugshots which are extremely unflattering.
      Ted Bundy for example was so handsome he had zero trouble attracting puss to his beetle to murder. He was normal, attractive and successful in his life that even when he was found dead to rights the police still didnt believe he was a killer.
      Even more hilariously, the ex girlfriend who thought he was the killer, let him live with her until he was found guilty.
      You just believe they look creepy once you know they're a killer, because that tends to stick with you and make you "see" it there.

      Bit off topic but true creepiness is how you can just tell someone is a drug addict based off their face, they all have a similar shrunken hollow expression.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Women I know say they see no crazy in this man's eyes. Or say that his eyes are lifeless.
        I see threatening intensity. Maybe women are just dumb.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          lol no one had a clue he was a killer etc. but yeah, im sure you can just tell by looking at him you retard. no need for all that work detectives, lemme just look at his eyes and ill know if he did it

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          3 whites

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    i have no idea

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Evolutionary psychology is bullshit.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >why do women prefer genetic masterpieces to mutants and frauds
    gee idk OP

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They are signs of wealth & comfort, which are rather more important than environmental fitness.

    Facial symmetry, skin health & hair health are indicators of comfort, itself indicators of lack of stress: ie. insulation from hardship. This is far more important for survival of offspring than physical fitness which can be triggered by hardship, particularly manual labour endured by the poor.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      That's not true. Ive had much hardship and have great hair and skin and jaw so shut ur dumbass mouth homo ass queer

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Good for you. Anecdote doesn't carry at population scale.

        Generally, poverty fucks up appearance.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Although equally it's possible your example would be an indicator of ability to *cope* with hardship, also valuable.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Ur on some dumbshit pal u couldn't prove what you're saying worth a dam

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I mean... I could spell it though, which is something.

            Women also filter for intelligence.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/um35JZy.jpg

      From a biological point of view, why do women prefer face and hair over muscles? It doesn't make sense

      Because of better genes. Better looking faces are genetic, better looking people tend to be more successful and often smarter too. You being healthy, determined and having willpower unfortunately doesn't have as much to do with genetics as it has to do with how you were shaped due to the ideas and thoughts you have consumed

      Facial structure and hair are the most visible and unique characteristic of every guy, and they are the prime identification marker of every person (excl. forensic markers like finger prints, voice and iris).

      Aesthetic face and hair provide subconscious snapshot of perceived character - personality, health, socio-economic status and the "superior gene" profile available for female.

      Male muscular body, strength and fitness are also very attractive qualities to females as they denote determination, and physical - sexual prowess -- but these latter attributes can be acquired by practice.

      Not so with the unchangeable genetic aesthetics and prime identity markers of facial features and hair.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    They really are. There was a night and day difference how women treated me when I was super skinny to ripped. The ones who despised we're all of sudden nice and the ones who ignored me flirted

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Of course. You started to take care of yourself and saw yourself as something valuable. People see that. I doubt they were specifically going “oh shit look at his triceps now”.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Maybe it was because I got more confident and it showed in my body language which they subconsciously picked up on idk

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    because women are absolute fuckin dogbrains, why is this a surprise

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Because more symmetry = more genetic fitness

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This has been deboonked, more symmetry does not predict "genetic fitness" when it's only slight and also does not affect attractiveness.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Note I said when the asymmetry is "only slight". Slight asymmetry is not less attractive than perfect symmetry.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        too lazy to paste the pics them together, but i believe you are wrong. its from a recent book that gott very good reviews in Nature etc...

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous
          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous
  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    muscles make more sense as a provider / protector quality. they're a result of lifestyle. they prove that you are physically active, healthy and have more than the bare minimum in resources. they say all kinds of good things about a man but not that much about his GENETICS. so when it comes to pure short-term mating muscles are less interesting and face is more interesting. hair is odd, it might just be necessary to frame the face. note how some men look okay bald and others go from 8 to 4 when they lose their hair.

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I am never wrong. That is old science that has the typical bullshit theories that then get destroyed by the actual facts.

    https://psychology.fandom.com/wiki/Facial_symmetry

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Well yes the nook stresses heavily determinism. As I said it got very good reviews by major science journals but may indeed not be up to reputable resources such as psychology.fandom.com lel

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