Fuck deadlifts

Yes, IST was right. Deadlift is a meme exercise which trains lots of muscles but no one perfect. The risk vs reward ratio is terrible.

Before one week it happened again. Sudden sharp pain in my lower back followed by tightness and stiffness while pulling and I dropped immediately on my knees.
In my lifting history I injured myself 3 times and all time just because of deadlifts.

There is no perfect form. Everybody teaches it different and even if there is a perfect form, this will not apply to you.
Body ratios are different for everybody.
Someone with short legs and normal torso will have a more upright position while someone with long legs and short torso will have a very high hips position and his torso will be nearly parallel to the ground.

After I injured myself I had various thoughts like why I did this shit? What gave this exercise to me? If I would just train like all others in the gym dumbbells for chest and shoulder, machines for back and split squats etc which doesn’t compress your spine for legs, I would look so much better and could train all the time without injury break.
Powershitting is a meme and cope for people who have issues in their life.
I know no powershitter who has no back problems.

Should lifting not make us stronger and support our daily life’s instead of making us weaker by destroying our spines and joints?

Are trap bar deadlifts safer than normal deadlifts or should I completely avoid this exercise?

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    agree, injured myself twice in the same way as you despite being obsessed with trying to get 'perfect' form and now i have permanent lower
    back pain

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It just makes no fucking sense to deadlift when you don’t compete.
      If your goal is just hypertrophy it really really doesn’t make sense.
      A intelligent routine of horizontal and vertical pulls will give you without a doubt more back gains than one million deadlifts.
      Even squats and bench press are trash for hypertrophy.

      If your goal is strength, it is a different story.
      But still than someone who doesn’t deadlift will be stronger than someone who lifts 500 lbs but can’t move well because of lower back and hip problems.

      I wish I never would getting radicalized by the big 3 cultists and just train like all others.
      I would be healthy, look good and jaut live my life.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        keep doing your cable exercises and machines pajeet. Leave bench and squat to the big guys

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >squats and bench press are trash for hypertrophy
        lmao

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They are. Bench press has just a limited range of motion and is bad for the shoulders. With dumbbells you have more range of motion and thanks to the neutral grip it’s healthier for your shoulders.

          There are better exercises like front or split squats which hit the quads more.

          After I switched from barbell to dumbbell bench press and kicked out squats and deadlifts, my muscles explode like never before.
          Will never fall for the muh strength meme again

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >If your goal is strength, it is a different story.
        Not really. Since the powerlifting meta became mainstream, we get these "power is genetic and can't be trained" memes, which is a pretty clear indicator that it simply doesn't work.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Since the powerlifting meta became mainstream
          Uhh what?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Powerlifting has become mainstream training in the recent decade in all fitness related fields.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Every beginner wants to be a pseudo powerlifter now. That's why reddit PPL, Nsuns, Wendler's programs and any form of powerbuilding got popular.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I would look so much better
      another looks person too scared to deadlift with hypochondria and an obsession on their deadlift form. If you can't pick things up off the ground without injuring yourself, you can't do any of the lifts and your body doesn't even work properly and you definitely haven't met your "looks" goals have you...

      pick barbell off floor

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Post back

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ask me how I know you’re an absolute dyel

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Well said op. I'm convinced the deadfag posters just want to see others get hurt or they're bots.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Been working out for couple years now, have no problem any compound lift except deadlifts. Ive only gotten injured with deadlifts. People will respond to your post and others with "don't ego lift" they won't define what they mean and if your doing deadlifts for hypotrophy your really wasting your time.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So wait, you got injured because you didn't lift properly and went to heavy and you're blaming it on the exercise? I can understand about difference in forms and set up, but it sounds like you went to heavy or just didn't lift safely. Sounds like a (you) problem

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I lift properly. My technique was one point.
      Bracing, neutral spine, leg and hip drive. Everything perfect.
      The whole movement itself is just to dangerous for people who jut want to be fit and look good.
      No exercise is irreplaceable. And exercises with such bad reward risk ratio should be avoided.
      If your goal is jut hypertrophy this exercise is even bad because it wastes too much energy for nothing.
      And as soon as you hit weight above 500 lbs you can’t guarantee to lift perfect. With so much weight as little mistake which you can’t see with eyes is enough to snap the shit out of you.
      For what? What does this exercise give you?

      Post back

      Ask me how I know you’re an absolute dyel

      Show body pussies

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        So you ego-lifted with bad form. That's your fault. Whenever I see people shitting on deadlifts, it's always their fault they got injured. This coming from someone who injured himself doing deadlifts because I was a retard and lifted too much weight while cutting and tired af.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >t. DYEL

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Deadlift should be renamed to EgoLift

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Post back

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >OP shows body
        >powershitters don't
        lmao every time.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I've lifted for 15 years, injured my back 5 times due to deadlift, sometimes it's block pulls and sometimes it's even low weight deads.

        I still do deadlifts today for the overall compound movement but i don't go heavy.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >And as soon as you hit weight above 500 lbs you can’t guarantee to lift perfect.
        Don't lift over that then, problem solved

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    All powerlifters I know have back issues too…
    Muh strength muh Ya motherfuckers are maybe hood in deadlifts but this doesn’t transfer to other areas.
    My friend who is a wrestler would lift and throw you on the ground

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Bros there is a life outside of the gym.
    No one of us will be able to deadlift the next 20 years. Sooner or later oner after another will snap his shit and stop lifting or stop lifting without a reason.
    Just lift weights, do safe exercises and stay fit for the next 20 years.

    Longevity in this sport is important.
    I learned this when I saw someone in his 30s who had a great body. Looked fucking good.
    He said that he just lift with dumbbells due to longevity reasons. No barbell bench press because it will fuck up your shoulders because of unnatural movement, no deadlifts for obvious reason and no squats because it compresses your spine.
    He did dumbbell bench press which is healthier for shoulders and hits the chest better, dumbbell RDLs and dumbbell split squats.
    He looked so good, was incredible fit and had a good life.
    Then I looked to me. Fucked up back and hips due deadlifts and squats, shoulder issues likely because of bench press.
    When I wake up morning my back is stiff while he wakes up fresh.
    My PR in deadlift is maybe 650 but he is stronger than me. How? Because he could easily smash me on the ground while I need to be careful because of my back when I try the same.
    He is fast, mobile and I am a stiff fucked up man despite being younger.
    He lifted weights next to his career while I was obsessed with PRs in the big 3.

    My world broke apart after I realized how stupid I am. I wish I would never start powerlifting.
    And here is a uncomfortable fact:
    There is no scientific proof that we can strengthen our discs. This means we are accelerating wear and tear with exercises like deadlifts…

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      imagine wasting your time writing this load of bullshit

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Another DYEL filtered by deadlifts.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      OP posted body, you didn't. You are a dyel

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This convinced me bye deadlifts hello trap bar deadlifts.
    Same benefits no risks

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They're the exact same risks as a regular deadlift.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No, if you look close you will se that you have with the trap bar a way more upright position. And this is the nature position, not forced like with barbell deadlifts to have more leg drive.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          What you're describing is essentially a quarter squat position. So it has the exact same benefits/risks as a quarter squat

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >I need a special snowflake bar just for deadlifts, the simplest of the big 4
    Pathetic

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If you think deadlift is a simple movement it is just a matter of time until we will meet each other in snap city

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's pretty simple yeah, just stand up with the bar lmao

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Post height. I guarantee you are a manlet.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Trap bar is safer but it turns the exercise into a shitty version of a squat

    Get yourself a dip belt and make Pullups your new deadlift

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >The risk vs reward ratio is terrible.
    lol I'll take my chances

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Deadlift hate #657 this week. Thanks for the contribution bro. Tell us how you really feel.

    Also post back.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >compress your spine for legs, I would look so much better and could train all the time without injury break.
    Correctly identified problem. Wrong solution. This is LITERALLY what reverse hypers are for.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >help I'm too inbalanced and stupid to deadlift. It's a fucking meme! It's a meme!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Shearing force + spinal compression says hello.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Deadlifting for 14 years with no issues. Deal with your wet toilet paper hamstrings so you don't deadlift like a dog getting poked in the dick by hay stubble in a farm field.d4ythn

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Nordic curls, GHR and RDLs are way better than Std Deadlifts for hamstrings and have more carryover to running and jumping than deadlifting which actually makes you worse at both (they work complete opposite modalities) Only powershitters and certain sports get value from it. All that effort could have been better spent on other lifts.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Sir what is your opinion about trap bar deadlifts?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Deadlifting is to learn a movement pattern, you don't DO the deadlift to build hamstrings, you build your hamstrings so you don't look like a chair bound gimp while trying to deadlift. You need excellent hamstrings if you want to pull it off. Everyone here whining about how hurt they get deadlifting is because theu go into it weak as a kitten then cry because they were too lazy to do it properly

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Post body. Let’s see what a 14 year deadlifter looks like

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            OP will not post body because he has a Yoshi lookin ass powershitter physique

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              OP has posted body ITT. Your turn.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Post. Body.

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    OK OP you convinced me.
    I'm ready to stop deadlifting.
    That being said, what do I do now? Do I just take deadlifts out of my routine, or is there some exercise(s) I should be replacing them with?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why were you doing them in the first place anon? What muscles are you growing with them?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Idk man I got memed into SS when I started lifting around last Nov/Dec and now it's all I know

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Hyperextensions or reverse hyperextensions.

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    post routine pls

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Cool story bro. I've been deadlifting for 8 years with zero injuries. Consider getting stronger and trying again.

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I got filtered as well
    Only lift that ever injured me and now I'm scared of it I can't have back problems like that I've got too many responsibilities to be addicted to pain meds

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Idk bro, once I got my form perfect (I saw a powerliftan coach (friend of a friend so it was free) for a couple of sessions), my deadlift shot up and I don't even feel as exhaisted anymore.
    I'm a DYEL at 70kg and I conventional deadlift 180kg for 5 now. It's just about form and having the right feet stance in comparison to your leverages.

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Why will 9 of them post it, o' gay who has trouble picking things up off the ground without hurting herself?

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I like Sumo, strengthens groin muscles and spares the back.

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    No one needs to, you already admitted you have trouble picking things up, you've lost right out the gate. Why don't you blow everyone out of the water and post your hulking body that gets hurt doing a basic human movement children can do? Show us what time and dedication can do to get someone to the spellbinding point where they hurt themselves like an old lady bending over and picking something up with their hands. Lets see the paper tiger.

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i don't care + i've been deadlifting for 7 years and have never been hurt + its the most fun lift + tldr

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Once a year doesn't count.

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >potht your torthoth for me pleathe. I need nude male flesh now!
    Cope fudge packer

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Once a year doesn't count.

    Cope and seethe gays, you can't do deadlifts and I can. Get fucked loser

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm starting a simple 5x5 Wednesday, I actually have a fucked up back from workplace injury. What's a deadlift sub that can fit a simple beg 3x a week till I learn what the fuck I'm doing? I know these threads are bait but I am a little worried.

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I usually deadlift 200 kg for reps and the only pain i get is doms. Train spinal erector with isometrics to strengthen it and activate a fuckton the lats.
    Also stop being a pussy; i watch mlp and probably lift better and more than u
    Pic rel8 was me 6 month ago when my wax was just 180kg diddly for 6 paused

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Not bad anon. You ever get injured? Only thing is I don’t do any deadlifts and I look pretty similar in build to you so I doubt it’s beneficial for looks.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The only injury i got was when i was sitting down on a chair one time and i’ve missed it sitting energetically on the bach of the chair hurting the last vertebrae of my spine fir like 2 weeks. Lifting related not any1. Just really bad doms and stiffness(but just doing 10 minutes stretching and release work cured it)

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Also yea, for looks alone stick with romanian deadlifts, nordic curls and other isolation work but do something strenght related for the posterior chain. It helps a fucking lot in everything you do and everyday posture.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Trips of truth. Nordic curls are underrated. They're really hard but they help prevent hamstring injuries (which are hard to recover).

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    new/fit/fag here, just recovered from a deadlift related injury.
    I had a sharp pain in my lower back extending out to part of my glute.
    it was pretty bad and doing simple tasks like leaning over a desk to write was painful.

    needless to say, still hit the gym and did OHP dumbell presses while treating my lowers as paralyzed or resting. my lower back recovered in 2.5-3 weeks.
    I just hit deads today and find it's appeal in completing a jacked back, glutes, calves and hamstring aesthetic.
    your form is probably shit, slightly bend your knees, while gripping the barbell and stand/straighten your body out like a stretch.

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I deadlifted 3 plates for 6 reps today, a new PR!

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I do Romanian deaf lifts for hams, barbell hack squat for quads, and then rows, pull-ups, and pullovers for my back. Never felt the need to do a normal dead lift.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Anon I am mogged

      Also yea, for looks alone stick with romanian deadlifts, nordic curls and other isolation work but do something strenght related for the posterior chain. It helps a fucking lot in everything you do and everyday posture.

      Thanks and nice trips. I will listen and do more of those I don’t do them much because I mainly just walk a lot, I am going to add some of them to my workout.

  33. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If there was only one lift I would recommend, it would be deadlift. The greatest lift of all time. It is the only lift I actually want to lift to infinity.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >t. Sub four plate lifter

  34. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Deadlift is a meme exercise which trains lots of muscles but no one perfect. The risk vs reward ratio is terrible.

    Yeah. Only do powerlifting lifts if you want to compete in them.

  35. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I do PHUL and multiple personal trainers tell me I shouldn't do squats and deadlifts on the same day. So I just do core work and deadlifts on Wednesday.

    The first one also had me do the hip tilt movement well over a dozen times per session just to make sure my form was 100%.

    The main risk comes from poor form, apparently, so if you can get your form right the risk:reward improves.

  36. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I agree to an extent but from my experience have you got tight hamstrings?

    My right hamstring is ultra tight, light cant touch my toes can only reach half way down my shin tight.

    If I don't strech and do dead I will pull my lower back (on the lower right tight hamstrings side) but if I do a huge stretching routine for my hammy(s) before doing deads I can do them fairly safely

    Just my thoughts, I still don't do them though as the risk is far too high for me.

  37. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Never liked deadlifts. I did them when I first started lifting when I run SL.

  38. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just do trap bar deadlifts if you want the same muh strength muh gains with lower injury risk.
    You guys are not powershitters so no need to do this.
    And if your goal is just hypertrophy for hot babes than ignore this exercise completely.
    Deadlifts are one of the worst exercises for someone who just want to build muscles.

    You can train all the years nonstop and get a very nice body or you can deadlift without a fucking reason and injure yourself and lose all your gains.
    Also girls want healthy men not bedridden broken men

  39. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Never did a deadlift in my life , I just do pull ups and chin ups

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, it shows. I would've guessed you'd never lifted anything heavier than your babydick.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Post body

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Lol zero back muscle. Come back when you have something to show off

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Post Body

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          dyel real talk?

  40. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I've been chronically injured in the low back from deadlifts and partly from squats. Can you still have a good back and legs dropping these?

    Are glute thrusts/bridges good or do they fuck your back too?

  41. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How the fuck do you get injured doing deadlifts? Just drop the bar

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Just drop the bar
      no.
      snapcity
      okay.

  42. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    deadlifters definitely lost the thread, I cant believe it

  43. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah I hate deadlifts, they used to be my favorite exercise, used to pull 5pl8 for reps, always good form. Then one day I decided not to chalk for a shitty commercial gym bar with zero grip beveling since all the other bars were taken. Halfway towards the lockout my left hand just loses grip, don’t use straps, I’m pulling with a partial grip on my left and full grip on my wrist but pull up all the way since I’m a quarter of the way into lockout, feel this large stabbing pain in my back but pass off it. The next day I wake up and I can’t even get off my bed without encrutiating pain, was bedridden for 6 months, had to quit my job, now I have permanent pain in my lower back.

    You can have good form for 999/1000 times you deadlift but if you fuck up just once it’s fucking over. At least bench and squat there are safeties or it’s easier to bail, but deadlifts when you bail you always injure something - unless you don’t lift anything off the ground.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      why would you try lifting heavy weight with shitty form?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It only takes on small lapse, it can happen to anyone

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It can happen to anyone with bad form, maybe

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I told myself that too, I think it was because it was my third rep and I was out of breath, I wasn’t thinking clearly. Part of my mind was telling my body to stop and the other part was like you’re already almost there might as well finish.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Idk why you are making excuses for poor form. It would be better if you just said the weight was way too much for you to handle and you would have been better off not ego lifting

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah it was poor form, my argument was that you can have good form for 99% of your deadlifts but if you fuck up once during the lifting phase then you will injure yourself.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              but thats generally not correct what you are saying and you may make others not want to deadlift and then they will be weak like you

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Also since I lost 50% of the grip and was almost to lockout, I ended up pulling with my lower back and legs instead of my upper back and legs, it was only a second if shitty form but that’s all it takes

  44. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Deadlifts is an ok exercise the problem is that people treat it as a main staple workout like bench or squat and it just isn't.

    Most people just like it because they feel cool loading up the bar with alot of weight.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I genuinely just think its fat fucks that have nothing else going on that need the ego boost, same with squat

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