Fuck this shit

Fuck this shit

  1. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >makes your shoulders fucking huge
    Heh, nothing personal, kid.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      How much weight can you/do you need to progress to? I'm at 8kg for sets of 8 or so. I can load it up to 12kg (nothing in between unless I do one arm at a time) and 12kg is too heavy. I'm 165cm 64kg.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        your delts are small muscles and you're holding the weight a long way from them, it doesn't need to be heavy

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          The delts are the biggest muscle group in the upper body when actually used and regardless of the mechanical disadvantage you have to progress to progress.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >I'm at 8kg for sets of 8 or so
        More reps, less weight. Form goes to shit pretty quickly when you go heavier on these in my experience.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        I can do 15kg for 12. Feels perfect for me.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          post delts

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            I can 30s for 8 and I'm the woodchop guy

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              nice man that's pretty crazy

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                One arm at time, telling you guys it's the way to do these. Still takes some time, took forever to get from 20 to 25.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                have you noticed any increase in functionality, as in every day movements or lifting boxes or furniture, that you would not have without the strong delts? I'm legitimately curious because the side delt tends to be underdeveloped in most people and we may not notice the strength we lack

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Hard to say since I devolved my arms and back at the same time, I can definitely say that holding anything up is much easier now, especially above my head.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                thx for the answer axebro

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        lateral raises should be done for 15 or so reps, probably no point in ever going below like 10

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        I'm at 30lbs x 19 reps for 4 sets. I won't up the weight to 35lb until I do sets of 25 minimum.

  2. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    What is the secret to doing this without snapping your shit up?^
    I fucked my neck up doing raises and it took months to heal

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      you fucked your neck up doing bullshit now you have to pay the fucking consequences

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      thumbs pointed up, bend your knees and lean forward slightly. simple as

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Why need to bend the knees? Lean forward if for better angle on the scapula, thumb position for rotators, but don't understand the part of the knees.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      how much of a fucking dyel are you that lateral raises snap your neck up?
      LMFAO I'M DYING LYING

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        *LAUGHING
        I CAN'T EVEN TYPE LMFAO

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        *LAUGHING
        I CAN'T EVEN TYPE LMFAO

        Max dyel it was like my first week at the gym. I was doing 3 sets of 15, once I hit the 15th rep it was hard as fuck and I kept pushing and fucked up something in my lower neck right side
        Couldn't turn my head for a week

        https://i.imgur.com/QeT7RH2.png

        What's the matter? Did you get your ego checked too hard? That's what I love about lateral raises, they put ego lifters in their place better than anything else.

        Simple, don't fucking ego lift.

        I wasn't. It was bad form 100%

        lmao what a DYEL PoS, never listen to advice from him if you know him in person, just don't do heavy ass lateral raises, start LIGHT!

        It wasn't heavy it was a set of 15 reps

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          xD OMG hahhahaha, was it your first day at the gym too? Just do some neck rotations/up and downs before training shoulders.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          You're weclome.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      What's the matter? Did you get your ego checked too hard? That's what I love about lateral raises, they put ego lifters in their place better than anything else.

      Simple, don't fucking ego lift.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >YOU’RE EGO LIFTING! GUHHH YOU’RE EGO LIFTING CUT IT OUT! LUNK ALARM! LUNK ALARM!

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        You're a gay, but you're right.
        I legit only use 2lbs of weight for these. Anymore and it's not a shoulder exercise, it's a leg exercise.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      lmao what a DYEL PoS, never listen to advice from him if you know him in person, just don't do heavy ass lateral raises, start LIGHT!

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        ACKTUALLY
        i'm the guy laughing my fucking ass off at the dyel
        and i do heavy lateral raises, but drop sets
        heavy lateral raises are good but you should use a shorter range of motion and focus on activating the muscle
        the drop set like a mother fucker and increase the ROM when you're able to maintain good form as you go lighter

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      I’m not doing them 100% lateral, my arms form 145° wings

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Light weight, high reps, don’t lock your elbows.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Be a manlet.

      Legitimately if you look at the physics, it's harder and more impressive for a 6'2" person to do this exercise with 15 lbs than it is for a 5'6" person to do it with 40.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        I looked at the physics. Turns out that the leverage advantage is far FAR offset by you weighing 40lbs more. Cope about it.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          >t. manlet
          lmfao

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          Oh yes, because all those extra 40lbs are in muscles that I use in this exercise. Nothing in the legs, chest, arms, back, or core. Just 40 lbs of excess deltoids and traps in my 6'2" frame.

          I really don't get manlets like you. You're constantly whining about how society always puts you down, how people think you're insecure, how women won't date you, etc., and then I come along and point out one small nice thing about being short, and they always freak out.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            I don't need you to say nice things about me, and if I did I probably wouldn't appreciate you telling me that pushing heavy weight is less of an achievement for me.
            Your delts have more volume and so much so that it offsets your leverage disadvantage. Hence why bigger people lift more weight, hence weight classes.
            Keep coping.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            This bro tryina say his lifts are low coz he's too big

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            seeing tall people gaslighting manlets makes me crack up every single time. thank you anon

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              When will they learn?

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              It's internalized inadequacy. They get put down so much by the world at large, they've mentally psyched themselves out of achieving their own potential. When I tell a 5'2" short king that it's easier for him to bench 3 plates than for me to bench 2, I'm not trying to denigrate his lifts; I'm reminding him of his own potential and encouraging him to shoot for the stars.

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              Oh yes, because all those extra 40lbs are in muscles that I use in this exercise. Nothing in the legs, chest, arms, back, or core. Just 40 lbs of excess deltoids and traps in my 6'2" frame.

              I really don't get manlets like you. You're constantly whining about how society always puts you down, how people think you're insecure, how women won't date you, etc., and then I come along and point out one small nice thing about being short, and they always freak out.

              >pretending to be retarded means the raging gay is a lolcow
              low iq, at best you both look pathetic

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          fellow manlet, the only real challenges for manlets are doggystyle sex and war
          in all else life is easier

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Not really. I can fuck from my feet and I'm invisible in the jungle. My challenge is gaining muscle with a smaller digestive system and less of a frame to put it on and then getting coped on by lanklets looking for excuses.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Lighter weight and higher reps. This isn’t a powershitter movement, its okay not to be using heavy ass weight.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      [...]
      Max dyel it was like my first week at the gym. I was doing 3 sets of 15, once I hit the 15th rep it was hard as fuck and I kept pushing and fucked up something in my lower neck right side
      Couldn't turn my head for a week
      [...]
      I wasn't. It was bad form 100%
      [...]
      It wasn't heavy it was a set of 15 reps

      >pushing hard for just one more rep, on an exercise that isn't a strength-centric compound
      Yeah anon you don't do this at all. One more bench or squat? Go for it even if you have to grind it out over 10 seconds. Curls, lat raises, sit ups? Save your body from injury and just deload/drop set to reach your volume goal.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Do reasonable amounts for your strength level, and use proper form, i.e. no jerky/twisty movements. Duh.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >15lb lat raises broke my neck
      Wow. Anyway the secret is that it's only delts from 15-90 degree abduction. Any higher is traps and any lower is some tiny muscle I can't remember. There's a paper that confirms it but I don't want to google for it.
      >keep arms straight so you use less weight
      >go from 15 to 90 degrees and no higher
      Pretty much all there is to it.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      I fucken love this picture because it shows the incorrect form just like DB OHP.

      >Arms slightly forward from side
      >Body leaning slightly forward
      >Very low weight
      >Very high rep (over 12 reps. No it wont *kill* your gainz)
      Lateral raises are like preacher curls. You gotta have good form and low weight otherwise you go to the snap city. Look on youtube how to do correct form

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        i've literally never been to snap city with heavy lateral raises
        but i'm not a retard/dyel and my form is usually flawless sooooo

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Do them with proper form.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Move to a lower weight.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      I tried these the other day, seems like a pretty good way to progressive overload but also not fuck your shit up

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      My last time doing lateral raises it was the 60lb dumbells for a set of 10, then down to the 55lb dumbells for another set of 10, then the 45s for another 10, then the 40s for a final set of 12.

  3. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    these feel like shit but lu raises feel great to me

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's the same exercise, just with more rom

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

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      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Obsessed

  4. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    I lat raise 7.5kg

  5. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    do lu raise or arnold raise, or be a fag and do the lat raise machine

  6. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    i got kicked out of my gym today after my lateral raises because i yelled FUCK YOU like 12 times to the 15 lb dumbells after i put them back on the rack. kinda embarrassing but they said i can come back when i "let off some steam"

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous
    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >most sane IST poster

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      That's cool now you have a reputation

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      you're as emotional as a woman, dilate harder chud

      https://i.imgur.com/4golCNh.jpg

      Fuck this shit

      ur supposed to do it at 45 degrees retard

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      That sounds kinda crazy ngl anon
      Why did you do that?
      Do you yell at inanimate objects often?

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Does anyone have that le reddit post of some dumb slut complaining about how some big fuck would scream "FUCK YOU BITCH" at the top of his deadlifts?

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Your next victims should be the smith machine and the stationary bikes

  7. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Whats a decent weight for these? I do 25lb dumbells for 10 reps but I feel like I could do 30lb for 8 reps, but Im worried about injuries of course. 6ft natty.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      i'm almost 6'2 (215 lbs with abs and capped delts natty btw) and i'll go as high as 70 lbs for 10 reps but low ROM then drop sets
      see my post here

      ACKTUALLY
      i'm the guy laughing my fucking ass off at the dyel
      and i do heavy lateral raises, but drop sets
      heavy lateral raises are good but you should use a shorter range of motion and focus on activating the muscle
      the drop set like a mother fucker and increase the ROM when you're able to maintain good form as you go lighter

      john meadows has a great video on this approach and it works incredibly well
      if you have dyel shoulders, increase the weight and shorten the ROM, then drop set with much lighter weight and greater ROM

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >john meadows has a great video on this approach and it works incredibly well
        found it https://youtu.be/G95DYGhdwAQ?t=100
        or at least i think this is the one, i think he actually covers it in multiple videos

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          looks interesting gonna try it

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Keep going until you reach snap city.

  8. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >don't lock elbows
    >arms crooked as fuck and causes horrible tendon pain
    >lock elbows
    >no pain at all

    i swear to god whoever writes this shit is a troll

  9. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    ego lifter spotted

  10. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Cables lateral raises are far superior, more consitent resistance

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      This guy trying so hard to look like the chad cartoon but still looks like a chud

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/zCnVslv.gif

        What's wrong with guys like this? He's got an awesome body, good skin, perfectly fine face. But he still actively flush that down the toilet by choosing to look like an incel. You can't buy style or class.

        https://i.imgur.com/FZ7hcOr.jpg

        Cables lateral raises are far superior, more consitent resistance

        Fixed it

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      What's wrong with guys like this? He's got an awesome body, good skin, perfectly fine face. But he still actively flush that down the toilet by choosing to look like an incel. You can't buy style or class.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Looking like an incel just means wearing glasses most of the time.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        bad glasses, shitty tryhard haircut, facial hair, tank top

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          oh yeah I didn't really notice the beard. That's a terrible style. He doesn't really have a jawline so he should just have a full very short beard/stubble to show where his face ends. But really anything other than the someone-put-shit-on-the-top-of-my-bong look would probably be an improvement.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      This guy trying so hard to look like the chad cartoon but still looks like a chud

      https://i.imgur.com/zCnVslv.gif

      What's wrong with guys like this? He's got an awesome body, good skin, perfectly fine face. But he still actively flush that down the toilet by choosing to look like an incel. You can't buy style or class.

      Looking like an incel just means wearing glasses most of the time.

      bad glasses, shitty tryhard haircut, facial hair, tank top

      hair's fine
      if he lost the glasses and fixed the facial hair he'd be fine

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        You are completely wrong about the hair.
        Source: I'm one of the gays from the original fab5 show.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          nah
          hair's fine
          if he lost the glasses and fixed the facial hair he'd be fine

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Shut the fuck up, straight boy.
            As I said, I'm one of the original gays from fab5. You know nothing. His hair is incrl hair and the only reason you think is fine is because you have the same haircut.
            Do you even know who you are talking to? I sucked cock and got fucked in the ass before you could speak your first words. I've sucked thousands of cocks I'm new york. Know your place, cisboy.

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              LMAO
              okay
              >mumbles something about gays
              >does a 360
              >walks away

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              why are you posting on IST carson, don't you have better things to do with your life

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Normally I'm just a lurker but I'm always on IST because of all the hot naked men you gays post. Obviously all of you are massive gays, takes one to know one. Everyone except the guy that thought the hair was good. He's the worst case of cisboy ive ever sen, knows nothing. Gotta go and suck a cock now.

            • 5 months ago
              Reddit Randy

              Should've read down. You got me.

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              >His hair is incel hair
              hmmmm

        • 5 months ago
          Reddit Randy

          How is that supposed to add merit to what you're saying?
          Is this bait? Every one of these gays look like they picked random shit off the rack at Goodwill

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Every one of these gays look like they picked random shit off the rack at Goodwill
            Remember when fags were based?

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              no one remembers this because it never was and never will be a thing

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          you're 2nd from the right aren't you

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah but you will still stall on this. I can 25lbs but 30 is near impossible. I hate training shoulders for this reason. You can't push like you can on back or bench

  11. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Probably the best workout I do it 5 days a week

  12. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Breaks your shoulders

    Heh..nothing personal kid

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >reddit spacing
      >completely fucking up the meme
      go back

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Reddit living in your head rentfree
        >"fucking up" a meme

        Hhehe...nothing personal dyel

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          >redditor calling someone else a dyel
          imagine actually admitting to being a redditfag and even defending redditfags
          post body with timestamp gay

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      body now

  13. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    What's the secret to lateral raises?
    I've been using a cable but I can only do the lowest weight. I do three sets of up to 12. Sometimes it feels like my shoulder pops

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      takes a ton of reps + time
      main reason my shoulders/arms are huge is because i used to be a pro drummer

  14. 5 months ago
    Anonymous
  15. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Do a super set of these:
    Front raise
    Lateral raise
    Reverse fly
    3*10

    It's fun. Learned it from the buff dudes

  16. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    if done like that, they mostly work the traps not the delts btw.
    You need to slightly adjust it a bit (forward).

  17. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Whatsthe secret on properly isolating my delts on these? I always feel like my traps are doing 80% of the work

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      if you dumb morons actually paid attention and read these threads you wouldn't be asking these dumb fucking questions over and over
      see my posts here

      ACKTUALLY
      i'm the guy laughing my fucking ass off at the dyel
      and i do heavy lateral raises, but drop sets
      heavy lateral raises are good but you should use a shorter range of motion and focus on activating the muscle
      the drop set like a mother fucker and increase the ROM when you're able to maintain good form as you go lighter

      i'm almost 6'2 (215 lbs with abs and capped delts natty btw) and i'll go as high as 70 lbs for 10 reps but low ROM then drop sets
      see my post here [...]
      john meadows has a great video on this approach and it works incredibly well
      if you have dyel shoulders, increase the weight and shorten the ROM, then drop set with much lighter weight and greater ROM

      >john meadows has a great video on this approach and it works incredibly well
      found it https://youtu.be/G95DYGhdwAQ?t=100
      or at least i think this is the one, i think he actually covers it in multiple videos

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      You can do what I wrote here

      if done like that, they mostly work the traps not the delts btw.
      You need to slightly adjust it a bit (forward).

      Just slightly forward (not front raises, just angle it a bit).
      You can also lean your body to some kind of support and do the raise on the other side.

  18. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Bless this shit

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >repping the entire stack instantaneously
      Fuarrrrk I'm mirin

  19. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Should I do facepulls or these at the end of my workouts?

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >both hit different group
      Retarded aren't you?

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        I don't have room for both, retarded, aren't you?

  20. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    I've been grinding these fuckers beyond failure for some months and my shoulders are really looking better.

  21. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Lateral raises directly to the side like that are bad for your shoulders, bring your arms forward at a 15 degree angle or so, bend your knees slightly, lean forward ever so slightly, brace your core, and THEN do your lateral raises. Like pic related

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >brace your core
      What does this actually mean?

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >flex your abs

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          I've got a soft tummy, how do I do that?

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            FLEX YOUR ABS

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            fucking inhale air, bitch. You know how to breathe, right?

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        tense your belly muscles like you're about to get punched in the gut. make sure you can still breathe, don't just grunt and squeeze like you're trying to force out a stubborn turd.
        don't forget to clench those buttcheeks, too.

  22. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    You should incorporate partial lateral raises too. Use dumbbells that are too heavy to do a full lateral raise and do half raises. Will explode your delts

  23. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Isn't perfect form for this movement at a 70 degree angle? At 90, my rotator cuffs feel like they're about to snap. Also cable>DB

  24. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >is mogged by the upright cable row
    Heh.. nothin personnel

  25. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Isn't OHP enough for shoulders?

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      wanna know how i know you're a dyel with zero rear delts?

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        because you're a dyel yourself?

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          hahaha yeah man that's DEFINITELY it

  26. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Do these one arm at a time while leaning off of something with your free hand, massive gains, don't say nobody told you.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      if you do bent over laterals like that with one hand you can go super heavy too.

  27. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    You don't need to do these you know.

  28. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    cable side raises>dumbell side raises
    >isolate delt throughout entire movement
    >don't fuck up your shoulder

  29. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    I've recently been getting a good mid/rear delt pump by following my lateral raises with a few sets of swinging up plates (the ones with handles cut into them) backwards in a circular motion until my arm is straight up above my head, then lowering straight back down, alternating sides, sort of like swimming. Can really feel it working the rear delt but I just use light (5kg) plates since I've already done lat raises. Feels good. Can feel it in the obliques too since I have to twist a bit.
    Opinions? Probably looks retarded but as long as it doesn't snap my shit up I don't mind.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Sound like lu raises
      Could also do butterfly laterals if you don't want to smash yourself with plates

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >lu raises
        Just looked these up. It's similar but I do them one at a time and twist so the weight is moving almost directly behind my starting position. Never smashed myself with a plate though.
        Just looked up the butterfly lats after typing all that and it's pretty much those but standing.

  30. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't do them. I've adopted the "if it feels wrong or I don't like it, I stop" mentality and it's working out alright

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      What else do you like then? OHP?

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous
  31. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Randy have a nice day you moron

  32. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Picrel is unironically the best lateral delt isolation. It can be loaded like nothing else and is safe for the supraspinatus even if you have subacromial impingement.
    >inb4 machines are dyel
    It's an isolation exercise, machines can be great for these.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm considering getting a few months of gym membership just to use one of these.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        I also recommend the nautilus pullover machine if they have one

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yes, I was exaggerating a bit. It would be for both of these and the leg press and extension machines. I wonder what it would cost to just get these in my garage.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      i do this
      can confirm
      boulder shoulders

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        post shoulders

  33. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Are these or OHP more effective at building boulder shoulders?

  34. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    What do you guys think about this guy's 1st and 3rd exercice? (Would just say the name of the exercice and not link the vid but they don't really have one). Enough for rear delts? Would you do both, one or the other, or simply none?

  35. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    pussy

  36. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Okay, pantyboy

  37. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Y raises are the future

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