>fucks up your lower back

>still done by every DYEL
>lots of safer alternatives available
>somehow recommended by personal trainers across the globe

Whats the catch IST?

  1. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    hammer strength rows will blow up your back

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      best machine and the only one im using

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Are hammer strength rows better or equivalent to this?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        The hammer strength row is better in my opinion. Not that much better, though.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        damn i havent seen one of those since i worked at the Y in high school. forgot it existed. awesome piece of equipment

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        how does one perform this exercise without losing their breath? my diaphragm is always getting crushed and its hard to catch my breath after 5 reps

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Not sure. The one at my gym you can adjust so its not pressing in the wrong spot. Also I arch my back a little, not leaning over the pad.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        If it's T bar chest supported row, then yes. I personally prefer hammer strength rows since I can work my back harder without my lower back being the limited factor.

  2. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    How does it fuck up your lower back?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      have you ever done this exercise with anything above 55 kgs?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        nta
        yes, regularly, never felt any discomfort in any part of my body and I'm literally a 140lb dyel

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        I can do it with nearly 90kg or so at like 76kg bw, strict form.. never once caused me lower back pain and I have a diagnosed herniated l4 from 3 years ago. You keep your core tight and shoulders back, and contrary to popular belief, don't do a rowing motion like on the cardio machine causing your upper back to round.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          anon, can you please link me a youtube video with the form you're talking about?

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            This is incredibly similar to how I do them. Normies and zoomies on tik tok preaching to use a little momentum, but I don't.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Aside from chest supported rows, cable rows give me the LEAST amount of strain in my lower back. Not sure what the fuck you're on about.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Jesus Christ way to out yourself as a weak gay. I bent over row 315 and cable rows are literally fine. Just because your back isn’t developed enough to maintain a strong mind muscle connection doesn’t mean everybody else is as weak as you.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Have you ever done it with good form?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Do you have a normal posture?

        If you don't, then you'll have some form of back pain no matter what you do (not necessarily lower back pain)

        >t. someone with kyphosis/lordosis working to fix posture to end upper/middle back pain

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          I get lower back pain when doing back extensions, and yes, posture is fucked.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Try to diagnose what your problem is and work to solve it. If necessary, see a doctor.

            Unfortunately, I learned the hard way that the usual compounds (back squats, standard deadlifts, bench pressing, OHPs, barbell rows) only partially solved the problem, but are not enough. If you have kyphosis (hunchback) then add exercises from Neanderthal No More (or do the program itself, it's up to you) to your workouts, I've noticed some progress doing the GPP exercises on rest days and adding some extra accessories from the program and elsewhere (snatch grip deadlifts, cable rows, straight arm pullups with a wide grip, will probably add front squats too at some point). Also, do some pec stretches

            And you will probably need to lower the weight when doing deadlifts, I didn't realize it but I was rounding my upper back way too much and had to lower it 40 lbs, and maybe will have to take even more weight for now. My back at least hurts a lot less.

            But above all, see a PT so you'll learn how to stand straight. And by this I mean what the cues you need to learn are, this should be a single session thing if you've been lifting for a while. It will make getting form right a lot easier.

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              Oh, and I also do face pulls

  3. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    All heavy weightlifting "fucks you up".
    No risk, no reward.

  4. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >tattoo
    Disgusting bitch, hard pass

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      No one cares gay.

  5. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    learn to brace and actually activate your muscles retard

  6. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Just do regular barbell rows and stop being a pussy

  7. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Its the safest row you can possibly do except for chest supported rows you're a fucking retard also I want to kiss this woman's lats

  8. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    dude i even lean forward to stretch my lats the way charles glass tells people to and rows feel fucking amazing on them. fucks up your lower back? sounds like that happens to people with weak lower backs ego lifting. not my problem. keep your back from being rounded, hinge at your hips, keep your chest out and shoulders back, just focus on your kinetic chain through the movements with a weight you can do safely and you dont fuck your shit up.

  9. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Seated cable rows are fucking garbage once you approach bodyweight. Chest supported rows are much better especially done while standing

  10. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    you're retarded, kys

  11. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    If it "fucks up your lower back" your form is complete dog shit. Seated Cable rows remove low back from the equation entirely, like chest supported rows.

  12. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >OP's doing weighted rows like he's on a concept 2

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      All the zoomies at my gym do this. Similarly they like to engage their entire upper body for lat pulldowns.

  13. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    it doesnt fuck up your lower back. It utilizes your erectors, which can feel fucked if they are weak.
    Before you start doing lifts like barbell row and cable rows you should have a decent deadlift already.
    at least 3plate, until then do pulldowns.

  14. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I found out that it hurts my back if I try to have a strict form, ie sit straight.
    When I bend backwards a little bit it doesn't cause me and pain in the lower back

  15. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >engage core muscles
    >don't hyperextend
    perfectly safe now

  16. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >lots of safer alternatives available
    How are cable rows less safe than other types of rows?
    I really only do bentover rows, but what the fuck? Cable rows are a quick alternative, you just pin the weight on the stack so you can warm it up without changing plates, do drop sets quick, whatever the fuck you want if you're retarded, how is it unsafer than any other exercise?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      cable rows are perfectly safe if you keep your core engaged, but I think OP means chest-supported rows and other upper back exercises that don't load the lower spine.

  17. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >complains about this exercise fucking up your back
    >does freeweight squats

  18. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Bait

  19. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    You're not supposed to load up the cable pulldown or cable seated row with lots of weight, they're pump/finisher lifts

  20. 3 months ago
    Himbo Chad

    You'd have to have shit genetics if you get injured on a rowing machine

  21. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Disgusting neck tattoo, of course. I'm sure that dream catcher holds deep meaning to her.

  22. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    can confirm this is shit for lower back, i used to do this and sometimes it´s hard for me to sit long hous in airplane or in my office seat.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      You sure it was that? Might've been all the butt poundings you've taken, fag.

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