>getting lean and muscular easily puts you in the top 10% of guys

>getting lean and muscular easily puts you in the top 10% of guys

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    yes.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Simply not being overweight in America makes you 22% of the population

    Sexual competition is a real thing, women's brains are wired to seek out strong men who will protect their offspring, their resources, and themselves

    A healthy, muscular male is not only a healthy partner to mate with, he has a physical advantage over other males

    Getting shredded actually does help you to get women much more easily, but there is much more to life than getting women bros

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Getting shredded actually does help you to get women much more easily
      Literally how. Women can't see through your shirt. Also it seems to me dating is 70% talking 30% attractiveness.
      You can be the hottest guy in the world but if you don't talk to the girl she won't know you exist.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Nice cope uggo, online dating solves that problem. If you get 0 to a few matches, you're ugly asf. Not my problem

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Simply not being overweight in America makes you 22% of the population
      Overweight = 25-30 BMI
      Anyone who looks like they lift has an overweight BMI. Jacked roid monkeys can easily measure obese

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        BMI is meant for fatasses and people who don't have a regular strength building routine. You will actually need to be measured using calipers and measuring tape to see your BMI if you're not a fatass

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I just look in the mirror to see that im overweight. Its pretty effective.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Not enough people lift hard enough for this to matter lol

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          This. BMI doesn't matter on IST, but it was literally designed for normies.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Oh, there's more to life than getting women? Good, then you don't need to make your whole post about them.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Please bro. Nobody even notices. Maybe it's different in the US, but ehre in Europe, being athletic is not uncommon at all.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Is it though?

      Europeans are often less overweight but the men are also more lanky and effeminate in general

      Being especially muscular is more than just being physically healthy, it takes a conscious decision and work, and not everyone makes this choice which is okay

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Europeans are often less overweight but the men are also more lanky and effeminate in general
        Hahaha. MORE effeminate than Americans? The word you are looking for is "lean".

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Europe has far more homosexuals and liberals

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >lean
          most european men could pass if they shaved their body hair and tucked their dicks. don't tell me you're not effeminate

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            That sounds more like americans (the ones that aren't fat)

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              no, it doesn't.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                The smaller frames from being mixed with browns makes the statement fit better for americans

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >brown
                >american
                you're talking about immigrants, not americans

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          lol fuck europe

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Yes Europeans are more effeminate, being a giant blob of lard is not feminine

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          great now the thread just devolves into amerisharts coping that their rotting nation of mutts is anything of value

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            t. seething euroslime

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Depends on the area. There's a lot of lean handsome guys who act very masculine in many parts of western europe, but also a lot of gays, sure. But I can't say I've ever seen such a high concentration of lean masculine guys in the US before as in Europe, ignoring the beach areas.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >but the men are also more lanky and effeminate in general
        source?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Here. Right here on IST. Ever spoken to a britbong? It's like talking to a depressed gay man

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I have noticed that. Whats going on in Britain?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Literally it's their culture. My hypothesis is that over the centuries Brits have been losing and exporting all their masculine men. First with the Romans building civilization for them, then the Normans subjugating them, then the vikings raiding them, each one adding to the mix and of course stealing the beautiful women. Then they exported the real men off to Australia and the Americas and such, sending off more beautiful women as well. Then with WWII Brits send their manly men to die and get raided, losing even more of their good stock. Today the Englishman is so emasculated his character is defined by a passive aggressive self flagellating attitude that permeates through his thin skin like the stench of a obese fedora at comic con. In addition to this all of the beautiful genes have been shipped off somewhere else, leaving most of them unpleasant to look at. Theyve got nothing left to work with. It's sad really. Goes to show that exporting your good stock is just as bad as importing bad stock.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I have had this thought to, WWII saw the death of way to many strong white men. So you think it just hit Britain hardest when they were already on a decline?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Depends on the area. There's a lot of lean handsome guys who act very masculine in many parts of western europe, but also a lot of gays, sure. But I can't say I've ever seen such a high concentration of lean masculine guys in the US before as in Europe, ignoring the beach areas.

        I went to Sweden and never saw better looking men in my life. They however were completely lacking in any balls. When going to bars/clubs they would all stand around at the bar looking serious and wait for women to approach them. The women are insanely easy there and I had success with thots despite being mogged by most of the male native population, simply due to the fact that men literally do not approach there.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Men aren't supposed to approach you dumb ugly pua incel, it takes 2 to tango. Approach random girls is how you get canceled and reported

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            ok bro
            more pussy for me lol

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Like your ugly manlet ass gets pussy kek, nice larp incel. Approaching is desperation and pathetic,you think top 10% men approach? Ofc not, girls come to them. Trying to force a girl to be attracted to you Is pathetic

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                How can you even force so many buzzwords onto such a short sentence? Kys

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            beta af

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Its beta to approach a girl and act like a pathetic court jester. Girls are supposed to approach guys and if they don't, sorry but you're ugly

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            morons are gonna rape regarless

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Half the guys in my city lift or look like they play sports for a living.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous
      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        doesnt BMI increase with height no matter ur body fat?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          No. Literally says it on the picture
          >Body Mass Index is calculated as person's weight divided by the square of height

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            ur height increase on a 1 dimensional plane
            ur size/weight increase on a 3 dimensional plane

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              ur gayness increases on a 5 dimensional plane

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                takes one to know one

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Square/cube law. BMI would be constant with height if it measured surface area, not mass (~volume)

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Are you retarded?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            he's on IST, what would you expect?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          BMI is affected by height but not in the way you think the taller(above 6ft) you are the more leeway you have to actually be overweight while it says you are in good health but it is the opposite if you are shorter(below 5ft) but it is like a 1 point difference so it is cope.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        In my country at least, fat people are disproportionately boomers. People in their 20s/30s are rarely visibly overweight (they're not necessarily fit though)

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Wtf Croats?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Do we have a chart like this that just looks at people in their 20s? If we're talking about sexual attraction, I think that cohort is the only one that matters -- and I'm now in my late 30s.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >eu
        >turkey

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I don't get mites in America but I'm a Hispanic manlet

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Not sure why you'd want that, but have you tried not showering?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      no amount of lifting will ever ascend me from being a shitskin manlet. its over.

      Cope.

      Face matters more (if youre not fat)

      Wrong. I'm fit with muscle and sub 15%bf, still a khhv never touched a girl nor been on a date. If I considered "top 10% man", then where tf are all my bitches

      Fuck off with your demoralizing bullshit.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        > I don't like the truth so I'm just gonna be a moron and bitch about it being demoralizing like a giant pussy
        Off yourself dyel retard

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      europeans seem like gays tho

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    10% only?
    i live in the city and fit people are 1/100
    if i go to clubs then its 4/10

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    does it really put you in the top 10% of guys, "all things considered", or does that top 10% get averaged out with all your other much more average qualities?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      being visually in the top 10% matters alot more than being above average in everything else trust me looks will have the biggest impact on how you will be percieved by the majority of people
      (if everyone had the time to learn more about everyone else they would do it but you cant expect people to do more than base their judgement of others mainly on their looks/body language/etc.)

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >being visually in the top 10% matters alot more than being above average in everything else trust me looks will have the biggest impact on how you will be percieved by the majority of people
        Does becoming lean and muscular really put you, visually, in the top 10% of guys though? Especially clothed? When I'm meeting strangers I tend to notice other people's faces, eyes, hair, height etc much more than their muscle and weight.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It can but you guys also need to figure out your drip situation. If you dress like a child, or like shit, then you don't look or feel nearly as good as you could.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      but I like business casual, I don't want another style

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    no amount of lifting will ever ascend me from being a shitskin manlet. its over.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Cope.

    Face matters more (if youre not fat)

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Wrong. I'm fit with muscle and sub 15%bf, still a khhv never touched a girl nor been on a date. If I considered "top 10% man", then where tf are all my bitches

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Being in the top 10 % in looks doesn't remove the requirement for good social skills and a social life where you meet girls

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Social skills are a meme and overblown by pua/redpill theory retards. If I can make male friends, speak properly while not saying anything stupid, your social skills are good enough. Social life is also a meme, online dating proves you wrong. My friend for example has a mild form of autism yet he slays massive amounts of pussy on tinder cuz he's 6'3, lean and attractive face

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          you're retarded if you think social skills have no effect
          don't take every extreme to value, a fat ugly manlet will never slay even if hes charismatic as fuck but it does have an effect.
          otherwise me being 6'5", lean and attractive would make me slay all tinder matches i got instead of them getting bored after a few days chatting.[

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Your retarded if you think they even matter kek, your probably ugly, shorter and not as attractive as you think because a man who is 6'5 and attractive is top 5% of all men and will slay every available pussy in the area. If you can talk, you have social skills

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              you can cope all you want that your genetics is holding you back and not your obvious autism.

              Stop taking extremes and get out of your basement.

              Got to make your outside attractive if you want her to be curious about your inside. Would you buy the box off the shelf that was already opened, looks like it had been dropped and left in the rain or the one factory fresh?

              i agree with you? And would you keep a box that had a shit inside of it even though it was sealed, or would you take a taste just to make sure?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Your a fucking loser then if your attractive and 6'5 yet still can't slay kek, how fucking pathetic. Girls look for good genetics, not some ugly boring dicklet manlet lol

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >not some ugly boring dicklet manlet lol
                >boring
                if social skills were a meme why did you add boring there?
                :^)

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Because it's true. A uggo manlet is boring while a attractive tall guy isn't, simple as. The fact your trying so hard to reason that personality and autism is the issue, and not genetics just proves to me your some ugly/average male loser hahaha

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Where am i arguing a uggo manlet isn't less atttractive than a hot tall guy?
                How about this, hot tall dude with autism vs hot tall dude without autism, who slays more?
                You are delusional if you think it makes no difference.

                Lacking social skills doenst mean you are a shit though. If you were you should be seeking to improve that part of yourself as well. Its all about being a better man then you were before in every way. It still starts with your physical body though, thats the first impression you give. Then you need to have a good interior to avoid buyers remorse.

                Ofcourse, i completely agree with this, but if your social skills are shit, you won't even make it to buyers remorse sometimes.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                If you have a chad body you would need to be really awkward to chase women away. They line up on tinder if you confess you like to beat women and rape children.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Delusional, see all those chad tinder experiences for proof. Social skills and social networking are big memes, only physical looks matter

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Only for first appearances. Those women may line up on tinder but none of those relationships would last apart from a quick hookup. As always, you need balance. Social networking, if thats your think, is a avenue to meet women that are not in to tinder and social skills are good for when you get in range of a girl. Having a good appearance means she will be receptive to your message. Its like with fire, you need three elements and if you lack any one you dont get fire. You need a way to meet them, talk to them and have them accept you.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                If you have a chad body you would need to be really awkward to chase women away. They line up on tinder if you confess you like to beat women and rape children.

                Nice dodging
                Answer the question
                Hot tall dude with autism vs hot tall dude without autism
                Who slays more?

                [...]
                >but none of those relationships would last apart from a quick hookup
                You don't know that, girls will stay with an attractive partner over some ugly moron with a """personality""". Social networking for pussy? Gtfo outta here nerd, what's with you gay pua retards? Just don't be ugly lmfao

                once again i'm not saying a ugly moron with a ""personality"" is going to slay as much as a hot dude, stop taking extremes retards

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                So two people on otherwise equal ground but one has a defect? So whats the point of the question?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                What defect is there if social skills have no effect?

                >Who slays more?
                Not him, but I think his point is that at that point it doesn't matter. Once two guys are getting some, pointing out that one gets more and why isn't relevant to that poster.

                But the point is that at any level social skills will matter, an average dude with autism and average dude without autism will have different levels of slay.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                No they wont, girls aren't attracted to average boring men. Why should girls pick the average loser when there's hundreds of more attractive guys to pick from?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >autism
                >What defect
                What?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >social skill has no effect
                >autism is a defect for slaying pussy
                pick one

                No they wont, girls aren't attracted to average boring men. Why should girls pick the average loser when there's hundreds of more attractive guys to pick from?

                God can you stop pivoting so fucking much? Does social skill have an effect, yes or no, simple question, right?
                If you have social skills it will improve your chances, whats so fucking hard to understand?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Does social skill have an effect
                Nope. If your ugly, your fucked either way. If your attractive, doesn't matter.
                >If you have social skills it will improve your chances
                Every person on earth has more than enough decent social skills. If you can talk and listen, that'd all you need.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                The guy who gets pussy is the guy who has girls in his contacts and gets them to show up with their cute friends to bars and parties. It's that simple; he basically has a harem going on, and invites his bros to share some of the spoils.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Who slays more?
                Not him, but I think his point is that at that point it doesn't matter. Once two guys are getting some, pointing out that one gets more and why isn't relevant to that poster.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Lacking social skills doenst mean you are a shit though. If you were you should be seeking to improve that part of yourself as well. Its all about being a better man then you were before in every way. It still starts with your physical body though, thats the first impression you give. Then you need to have a good interior to avoid buyers remorse.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Your a fucking loser then if your attractive and 6'5 yet still can't slay kek, how fucking pathetic. Girls look for good genetics, not some ugly boring dicklet manlet lol

              Because it's true. A uggo manlet is boring while a attractive tall guy isn't, simple as. The fact your trying so hard to reason that personality and autism is the issue, and not genetics just proves to me your some ugly/average male loser hahaha

              >kek
              >lol
              >hahaha
              it's pathetic how insecure you are. begone incel

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Got to make your outside attractive if you want her to be curious about your inside. Would you buy the box off the shelf that was already opened, looks like it had been dropped and left in the rain or the one factory fresh?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >If I can make male friends, speak properly while not saying anything stupid, your social skills are good enough
          Making a loooooooot of assumptions here...

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          your friend isn't autistic

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            He is, like asburgers or something like that. Good looks will and can overcome even the most autistic male

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              No he's not autistic, most likely he is more reserved and off-kilter which is completely normal variance in personality. You don't know what an autistic person is like.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Cleary your just projecting because he's my friend and I would know better than you. Sorry your shitty worldview just collapsed, not my problem. Seethe

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >be fat in hs
    >get fit in college
    >retain taste for cute fat chicks
    >endless fat girl pussy

    And yes, they’re better at sucking dick and they always swallow

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      usually they are trash at sucking dick, trash at kissing and trash at sex
      get some actual taste

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Only for first appearances. Those women may line up on tinder but none of those relationships would last apart from a quick hookup. As always, you need balance. Social networking, if thats your think, is a avenue to meet women that are not in to tinder and social skills are good for when you get in range of a girl. Having a good appearance means she will be receptive to your message. Its like with fire, you need three elements and if you lack any one you dont get fire. You need a way to meet them, talk to them and have them accept you.

        >but none of those relationships would last apart from a quick hookup
        You don't know that, girls will stay with an attractive partner over some ugly moron with a """personality""". Social networking for pussy? Gtfo outta here nerd, what's with you gay pua retards? Just don't be ugly lmfao

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I'm 5'6" so no.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It’ll give you a 1-2 point boost if you’re decently skinny and up to a 3-4 point boost if landwhale. I’d your reading this it’ll prob put you up to a 4-6 because that’s how averages work.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    don't feel like this is true

    I am 18 yo Dutch and 6'2 170 lbs lean, most guys my age are lean and fit, I think at least 50% go to gym regularily
    women are a different story though, it's unbelievable how much fitter Dutch men are than Dutch women,
    zoomer men are really really fit here (rural small-town netherlands), but idk how pathetic the cities are

    anyone over 35 is really overweight and unfit, with exceptions of course, women as a rule are not fit and wear too much makeup and do not dress modestly (despite this being more attractive)

    I will be going to a college near a city soon with lots of youth, outside of ruralchad territory, so I will see how bad it really is
    maybe if you compare yourself to 50 year olds you are top 10%, but compared to your age-group?
    I think maybe I am top 20% physical fitness for my age group, but that is because I am recluse schizo who does not consume alcohol so I have no beer-gut

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >I think at least 50% go to gym regularily
      >women are a different story though, it's unbelievable how much fitter Dutch men are than Dutch women,
      This is the reality of the yuropoor experience. Boomers are all fat and disgusting. Zoomer women are also all fat and disgusting. Your competition is mostly IST.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Your competition is mostly IST.
        And most of those ISTfags are retards who will bang anything and everything, thereby artificially inflating your average ugly whore's value.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    i certainly don't feel like the top 10% when it comes to girls

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >top 10% of guys
    your pic shows top 14% of guys
    make up your mind

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      3 out of 10 guys are so bad they spend most of their time out of the public's eye

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >be in top 10% of guys
    >women still wont show interest because receding hairline and no jawline

    Absolut suffering

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Only if you are not ugly. If you look like me it literally doesn't matter what you do, you'll always be bottom 50% in attractiveness.

    So you gotta find other reasons to lift.

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