is that really true though? I am starting to think roids really arent that bad. maybe I made a mistake staying natty. nowadays even kids are popping them like M&Ms and you never really hear any stories about bad sides or people fucking up their life. Turning 30 soon and been lifting natty for 10+ years, and although I do look big and am strong I can only imagine the gains I could make on just 500mg of test.
don't do roids, it'll ruin your life, having less gains and being alive and well is better than having more artificial gains and being on the brink of death and making those around you worry
Do you think roiders will openly talk about their side-effects and admit they made a mistake?
Cruising a low dose will do shit all, doing a dose that gives you an impressive physique will cause problems in the long run. Once the problems become too severe, you're forced to stop roiding and just deflate within 2-3 months and are stuck with permanently fucked-up natty test production.
Remember - as a natty, you keep gains for life.
bullshit, theres people in /cbt/ and /fraud/ that have been blasting and cruising for 10 years and still doing fine
even with 5 years as a natty youll never look as good and lean as them, by the time you get a good body youll be already in ur 30-35s where ur test is already nuked then youll have to do trt anyways
Sometimes I feel like people who make posts like yours are just roiders trying to gatekeep natties from ascending. People aren't dying from it, I know people who cycled IRL and are healthy, even being off-cycle they kept their gains.
Do you think roiders will openly talk about their side-effects and admit they made a mistake?
Cruising a low dose will do shit all, doing a dose that gives you an impressive physique will cause problems in the long run. Once the problems become too severe, you're forced to stop roiding and just deflate within 2-3 months and are stuck with permanently fucked-up natty test production.
Remember - as a natty, you keep gains for life.
are not lying. To me it seems like you only believe what you want to believe while at the same time accusing other anons of doing exact the same thing you are doing.
What I’m really interested in is: what is it really what you do t like about roiding that it makes you seethe so much?
You somehow seem to really be angry about others roiding it triggers something in you and it can’t be about other people’s health why should that concern you. Is it that other people making more gains is making you insecure or that they do it without hard work?
>grindr fag called beef swellington used to message me all the time >massive roid body >only ever wanted to get fucked
I thought that was really weird at the time but now it makes sense.
A lot of old school bodybuilders only lived to like 50 dude
Even if you're not gonna ball out like that gear will, no kidding, impair your ability to produce your own testosterone. The effect increases with the number and length of usage episodes
There's also serious side effects that occur as with any drug, more than just pimples
How is that fucking your shit up, putting a needle in my ass once a week to be jacked lifelong seems like an easy deal to make. Isnt it also paid for by the healthcare system in most countries?
First, America is the only country in the world, so no most healthcare systems do not pay for it.
I didn’t really get into in my post but they were dealing with other sides and a bunch of bullshit. Which, if that stuff is worth it so you can impress other big gay guys in the gym, knock yourself out.
You can be jacked and pretty lean Natty it just takes a few years. When I see someone on roids I feel bad for them because more often than not they are super insecure (I am too, wouldn’t be in gym otherwise) and they would probably benefit from working on their life in other ways instead of focusing on being big gym mans.
I have never taken them and I am well aware of the risks, at this point it is just that more than half the gym regulars are either on SARMS or PEDs according to certain studies and I really start to question what I read.
If all the sides I have read about are true than we should have a shitton of fucked up people running around. Yet even when I look at people who fucked their shit up with heavy amounts of roide like Pete Rubish or Larry Wheels they seem to be doing fine and especially Pete shows that you seemingly can just walk away from it and go on TRT. As long as you are fine pinning once a week it really does not seem to be a big deal.
You seem to be on the younger side, so you lack a good timeline for this stuff. The gym will always be full of jacked 20 somethings on roids. It’s just (obviously) not the same ones over time. I’ve known a lot of guys who used, and it typically doesn’t age very well. Aside from the expected baldness, impotence, shriveled nuts, disturbing acne, and needing test for life they also get weird shit like ruptured intestines and strokes and heart attacks. But the young guys don’t see that, they just see jacked dudes on gear with seemingly no problems. And for a couple of years there probably won’t be, especially if you’re young. But the bill comes due.
Meh I have been roiding for years and know lots of old roider 40 and 50+. No one has problems it’s only guys mixing it with coke and hard drugs that fuck up their hearts but that’s another story. Some testo and deca is gonna do nothing
>just walk away from it and go on TRT
Oh cool, you got some chemically derived gains, now you need a needle for the rest of your life to not lose absolutely everything. Doesn't sound retarded at all. They are still roiding, TRT is plain test, the dosages are just lower. In the case of Larry not so much, bro is all like >haha just TRT'ing to 1th percentile of natty test levels 😀
People can do wtf they want, but young and stupid people often make rash and bad decisions. >just TRT
You're beholden to a prescription from medical services for the rest of your life to just function normally. If you were born with dumpster level natural test, sure.
If you were normal or even high range and would've stayed that way well into old age, perfectly healthy, but decided to yolo at age 21 and nuke your normal test production for faster gains, which for all intents and purposes you could have achieved with some more more patience and wisdom... was that a smart long term move?
I love it when roided motherfuckers try to mog me, or spend their entire workout session doing passive aggressive bullshit. Since I'm a manlet, I'm a very easy target, which makes what I'm about to say kinda funny.
90% of the time, that's where it ends. They usually leave, or I leave.
Every once in a while, they might try to follow me into the locker room to keep fucking with me. This almost never happens, but if they go this far, this is when I start fucking with them.
I wait, ignore them, and go shower. If they STILL follow me, I just shower and helicopter my 5" soft dick. Works every time.
Yeah, that's even better if you can do that.
It shows you don't give a fuck.
OBVIOUSLY it's weird, but if you're rocking a 7.5" cock you should be dickmogging anyone that tries to mess with you.
Think about it. What is he gonna do? Call you a freak? He's the one staring at YOUR dick.
because being natty is fucking stupid and im natty myself and only been lifting for 5 months
life isnt fair and sometimes you gotta cheat you cant compete with all these roiding freaks, im going to start pinning at end of 2023 if i dont get a gf
Uncanny valley. Our brains subconsciously reject things that are uncanny, and one thing that sets off the uncanny alarm bells is a guy with too much muscle for his frame or age.
Kek why are you lying, I hopped on gear and women pursue me now. I have a gf but she's always getting all mad when women flex at me in public and shit and I literally get flashed awaking down the beach and danced on by randoms at the bars. You're just coping.
Roided up boomers with experience to go with their drug use exist to put roided up zoomers in their place. The most impressive people in my gym are all over 35 and blow the zoomers out of the water.
I once took half a bottle of dianabol and my nipples gave me hell. I threw the other half away. I couldn't go 5 minutes without scratching my tits. They were hard at the tip. I stopped everything and enjoyed more than 1 month for the itching to return to normal. I never take anything again.
I know the feeling. Went to a bench press competition at my base for fun. Easily older guy there. Was happy with my 300 bench. Broccoli hair 5’6 zoomer that looks he never lifted in his life puts up 320. What are they putting in zoomeis water?
Where will they be in 5 years?
In 5 years, you could have 3/4/5 and outlift all of them. >powershitting
Natty lifting outside of 16-20% bf and chasing strength is a fucking meme. You can actually look good and have fun this way. You don't have to autismomax your squat and ignore delts and arms.
Kek, this sounds like something a mother would say >"Who cares that those guys mog you now and get all the girls? In 5 years you'll find a nice girl who actually likes you"
Yes.
Your mother has lived to, by roider standards, an old age. Your mother retained her fertility and has managed to procreate.
Listen to your mother, anon.
Stop comparing yourself to other people you mentally ill fuckhead.
You need to look in your heart and you'll know you've made the right choice 🙂
Don’t worry, they’re gonna have horrible health problems in a few years anyways
is that really true though? I am starting to think roids really arent that bad. maybe I made a mistake staying natty. nowadays even kids are popping them like M&Ms and you never really hear any stories about bad sides or people fucking up their life. Turning 30 soon and been lifting natty for 10+ years, and although I do look big and am strong I can only imagine the gains I could make on just 500mg of test.
its the same with heroin and other hard drugs
teetotallers really missed out on god given life
don't do roids, it'll ruin your life, having less gains and being alive and well is better than having more artificial gains and being on the brink of death and making those around you worry
If you don't blast them like an absolute retard they can be alright.
Do you think roiders will openly talk about their side-effects and admit they made a mistake?
Cruising a low dose will do shit all, doing a dose that gives you an impressive physique will cause problems in the long run. Once the problems become too severe, you're forced to stop roiding and just deflate within 2-3 months and are stuck with permanently fucked-up natty test production.
Remember - as a natty, you keep gains for life.
bullshit, theres people in /cbt/ and /fraud/ that have been blasting and cruising for 10 years and still doing fine
even with 5 years as a natty youll never look as good and lean as them, by the time you get a good body youll be already in ur 30-35s where ur test is already nuked then youll have to do trt anyways
>and still doing fine
According to whom? Themselves?
Sometimes I feel like people who make posts like yours are just roiders trying to gatekeep natties from ascending. People aren't dying from it, I know people who cycled IRL and are healthy, even being off-cycle they kept their gains.
I'm sure you believe everything you are told.
Aren’t you doing the same?
>for 10 years
I also want to live after 40.
ronnie abused way more dangerous peds than any anon ever will and is alive at 60
my grandpa lived a healthy life and died at 55
+
kek
>people lying are right, I'm not coping at all!
So the people like
are not lying. To me it seems like you only believe what you want to believe while at the same time accusing other anons of doing exact the same thing you are doing.
What I’m really interested in is: what is it really what you do t like about roiding that it makes you seethe so much?
You somehow seem to really be angry about others roiding it triggers something in you and it can’t be about other people’s health why should that concern you. Is it that other people making more gains is making you insecure or that they do it without hard work?
>30-35s where ur test is already nuked
roidtrannies really believe this don't they
>picrel t. least homosexual roider
>grindr fag called beef swellington used to message me all the time
>massive roid body
>only ever wanted to get fucked
I thought that was really weird at the time but now it makes sense.
A lot of old school bodybuilders only lived to like 50 dude
Even if you're not gonna ball out like that gear will, no kidding, impair your ability to produce your own testosterone. The effect increases with the number and length of usage episodes
There's also serious side effects that occur as with any drug, more than just pimples
>is that really true though?
yes. every cycle is you subtracting years of your heart beating.
I work with young men occasionally. Had 2 fucking massive dudes around 21 years old that were on trt bc they had fucked their shit up blasting.
Natty bros stay winning.
How is that fucking your shit up, putting a needle in my ass once a week to be jacked lifelong seems like an easy deal to make. Isnt it also paid for by the healthcare system in most countries?
First, America is the only country in the world, so no most healthcare systems do not pay for it.
I didn’t really get into in my post but they were dealing with other sides and a bunch of bullshit. Which, if that stuff is worth it so you can impress other big gay guys in the gym, knock yourself out.
You can be jacked and pretty lean Natty it just takes a few years. When I see someone on roids I feel bad for them because more often than not they are super insecure (I am too, wouldn’t be in gym otherwise) and they would probably benefit from working on their life in other ways instead of focusing on being big gym mans.
>everyone bigger than me is on roids
cope faggo
I have never taken them and I am well aware of the risks, at this point it is just that more than half the gym regulars are either on SARMS or PEDs according to certain studies and I really start to question what I read.
If all the sides I have read about are true than we should have a shitton of fucked up people running around. Yet even when I look at people who fucked their shit up with heavy amounts of roide like Pete Rubish or Larry Wheels they seem to be doing fine and especially Pete shows that you seemingly can just walk away from it and go on TRT. As long as you are fine pinning once a week it really does not seem to be a big deal.
Or where are the bodies?
>Larry wheels is doing fine
Yeah man bleeding from your ears is fine and having bloated organs
You seem to be on the younger side, so you lack a good timeline for this stuff. The gym will always be full of jacked 20 somethings on roids. It’s just (obviously) not the same ones over time. I’ve known a lot of guys who used, and it typically doesn’t age very well. Aside from the expected baldness, impotence, shriveled nuts, disturbing acne, and needing test for life they also get weird shit like ruptured intestines and strokes and heart attacks. But the young guys don’t see that, they just see jacked dudes on gear with seemingly no problems. And for a couple of years there probably won’t be, especially if you’re young. But the bill comes due.
Meh I have been roiding for years and know lots of old roider 40 and 50+. No one has problems it’s only guys mixing it with coke and hard drugs that fuck up their hearts but that’s another story. Some testo and deca is gonna do nothing
>just walk away from it and go on TRT
Oh cool, you got some chemically derived gains, now you need a needle for the rest of your life to not lose absolutely everything. Doesn't sound retarded at all. They are still roiding, TRT is plain test, the dosages are just lower. In the case of Larry not so much, bro is all like
>haha just TRT'ing to 1th percentile of natty test levels 😀
Chill bro it’s just some guys making easy gains
People can do wtf they want, but young and stupid people often make rash and bad decisions.
>just TRT
You're beholden to a prescription from medical services for the rest of your life to just function normally. If you were born with dumpster level natural test, sure.
If you were normal or even high range and would've stayed that way well into old age, perfectly healthy, but decided to yolo at age 21 and nuke your normal test production for faster gains, which for all intents and purposes you could have achieved with some more more patience and wisdom... was that a smart long term move?
Meh why not bottle of test is 30€ and easy to get.
It’s not that dramatic
I love it when roided motherfuckers try to mog me, or spend their entire workout session doing passive aggressive bullshit. Since I'm a manlet, I'm a very easy target, which makes what I'm about to say kinda funny.
90% of the time, that's where it ends. They usually leave, or I leave.
Every once in a while, they might try to follow me into the locker room to keep fucking with me. This almost never happens, but if they go this far, this is when I start fucking with them.
I wait, ignore them, and go shower. If they STILL follow me, I just shower and helicopter my 5" soft dick. Works every time.
Stay winning
Hell yeah. You too m8.
We're all gonna make it.
My dick is like 2 inches soft, but 7.5 inches hard anon, what do? Do you suggest i get a boner first?
Yeah, that's even better if you can do that.
It shows you don't give a fuck.
OBVIOUSLY it's weird, but if you're rocking a 7.5" cock you should be dickmogging anyone that tries to mess with you.
Think about it. What is he gonna do? Call you a freak? He's the one staring at YOUR dick.
I'm fucking dead, thanks for entertaining my bait
because being natty is fucking stupid and im natty myself and only been lifting for 5 months
life isnt fair and sometimes you gotta cheat you cant compete with all these roiding freaks, im going to start pinning at end of 2023 if i dont get a gf
1 year of natty lifting, get ur bf low enough, if you look like shit then roid
also, learn dieting and exercises/form during that time
Women know if you've roided. They tend to stay away from juiced folks
Agreed. It's a big insecurity indicator, and insecurity is one of the most unattractive qualities a man can have.
Complete and utter bullshit. Most old, and especially women, are clueless about what kind of male physiques are achievable natty.
*most people
Uncanny valley. Our brains subconsciously reject things that are uncanny, and one thing that sets off the uncanny alarm bells is a guy with too much muscle for his frame or age.
this sounds like a massive cope.
Most non-single men are not roided
Kek why are you lying, I hopped on gear and women pursue me now. I have a gf but she's always getting all mad when women flex at me in public and shit and I literally get flashed awaking down the beach and danced on by randoms at the bars. You're just coping.
Roided up boomers with experience to go with their drug use exist to put roided up zoomers in their place. The most impressive people in my gym are all over 35 and blow the zoomers out of the water.
by not being a zoomer, you auto mog zoomers
I once took half a bottle of dianabol and my nipples gave me hell. I threw the other half away. I couldn't go 5 minutes without scratching my tits. They were hard at the tip. I stopped everything and enjoyed more than 1 month for the itching to return to normal. I never take anything again.
Pic is not me
I know the feeling. Went to a bench press competition at my base for fun. Easily older guy there. Was happy with my 300 bench. Broccoli hair 5’6 zoomer that looks he never lifted in his life puts up 320. What are they putting in zoomeis water?
Where will they be in 5 years?
In 5 years, you could have 3/4/5 and outlift all of them.
>powershitting
Natty lifting outside of 16-20% bf and chasing strength is a fucking meme. You can actually look good and have fun this way. You don't have to autismomax your squat and ignore delts and arms.
Kek, this sounds like something a mother would say
>"Who cares that those guys mog you now and get all the girls? In 5 years you'll find a nice girl who actually likes you"
Yes.
Your mother has lived to, by roider standards, an old age. Your mother retained her fertility and has managed to procreate.
Listen to your mother, anon.