Go to the doctor for heart pain at 34. They do a scan and show that I have heart issues.
Tell me to stop eating meat. Tells me to stop doing keto.
Finally stop the keto.
Keto could have killed me. Its crazy. Now just calorie count and eat fish instead of meat.
Don't make my mistake IST, you might lose weight on keto, but it mostly water and it will damage your heart.
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Once your body goes into real ketosis it'll eat the necessary fat around your heart and when it replaces it, it does so with fat that's subpar, it's like the equivalent to repairing a broken wall with spray foam.
>keto puts FAT around your HEART but it’s fine because the Keto will just eat it away magically afterwards.
How about just not doing keto and avoiding fat around your heart from the start.
Uh the solution is don't do keto and still eat meat moron? Drink milk get some carbs in.
it's them eat the bugs israelites lowkey shilling this.
OP, post doctors note with recommendation, just blur your personal info, also timestamp it, you filthy bug eating Black person.
>red AND processed
I fricking HATE "scientists"
/thread/
90% of the health issues meat causes is actually because it's processed. Stop eating burgers/sausages/bacon and eat real meat
>unironically fell for the keto meme
>blocks your path
>irish scientists
probably drunk when they typed up their scam reports
>Irish scientists
Food "science" is a complete joke, don't pay attention to it. The advice completely changes every few years over and over again.
Just use common sense and you'll be fine.
I eat red meat almost everyday. Is it actually that bad?
>I eat red meat almost everyday. Is it actually that bad?
No, but eating it everyday is. You should eat more white meat such as chicken and turkey and more fish. Red meat once or twice a week
White meat is objectively worse in everyway compared to red / dark meat
Why is it bad?
Animals store a lot of toxic shit in their fat tissue. Most forms of red meat are at least 1/3rd fat calories unless you're eating super lean cuts.
>least 1/3rd fat calories
you eat wagyu every time or something? ground beef only is about 15%.
I see that you're new to nutrition. 85% lean ground beef does not contain 85% protein calories. It is in fact more fat calories than protein calories.
sorry speedread. i thought you said 1/3rd fat by weight
you can tell the poster is sincere from the white space between his sentences.
Nice try, VEGAN.
>but it mostly water
I drink a lot of water, so it won't happen to me. Checkmate.
Oxford tongues my anus. Keto might be moronic but meat is nowhere near as bad as goyslop filled with corn syrup or sneed oils or homosexual bean products
BREAKING: Studies confirm that not eating the product of our multi-million dollar food industry backers is BAD for your health!
What were you eating on your keto diet?
Ketolards detected
YWNBAW
wtf i love chudjak now
I'm not eating tofu or seitan
>saturated fat is bad
>except for dairy, which is high in saturated fat
Do scientists even try?
Nutrition is literally a fake industry because it's all genetics. Heart disease, diabetes, it's genetics. It has nothing to do with what you're eating
>b-but obesity
People are obese because they have unlimited food and no self control, just eat less, you can't control whether you'll get heart disease anymore than you can control Alzheimer's or cancer. It's not up to you, it's just rotten luck
genes dont change that quickly but can be turned on or off by environmental factors. it makes no sense to say its all genetics but typical of a midwit
The reason it's a fake industry is because research as a field is total bullshit. From the way funding is granted, to methodologies, to restrictive and overpriced access to the papers themselves, the whole thing is a fricking sham. Academia and publishing really need to pull their fricking head out.
>red and processed meat
>and processed meat
>processed meat
Huh, wonder why they had to throw that in there? And why they never, ever separate the two...
because you dumb shits, walk into a grocery store and maybe only like one third of the butcher's section is plain unprocessed meat the rest is just like bullshit sausages and deli meats - and then you go beyond just the butcher's and there isn't a single thing that has meat in it that isn't processed.
Nevermind the average joe that has to get eat frickin gas station hot dogs and dollar store beef jerky or just regular fast food.
point
but you're also implying red meat is healthy,
which it is
Samegay OP-bot samegayger remains a homosexual
keto sucks, eat normally
>one third is unprocessed
>he doesn't know about meat glue
nice try vaxxie
Ignore this vegan propaganda ketones are the best fuel for the heart
>3-OHB has beneficial hemodynamic effects in HFrEF patients without impairing MEE. These beneficial effects are detectable in the physiological concentration range of circulating 3-OHB levels. The hemodynamic effects of 3-OHB were observed in both HFrEF patients and age-matched volunteers. 3-OHB may potentially constitute a novel treatment principle in HFrEF patients.
https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/CIRCULATIONAHA.118.036459
>fish instead of meat
And you think this is better how
>eat (red) meat for 4Mya
>sudden increase of heart attack and lifestyle diseases in the last hundred or so years
>but meat bad
yup. it's totally the meat. here eat some bugs instead.
Oh no ketoschizoschizo is spamming the board again
> humans eating meat for thousands of years so hard that humans hunted several breeds of animals into absolute complete extinction
where as some breeds of animals bred into their own starvations and some breeds so massive that it would be difficult to miss them from miles
humans had barely ever seen heart disease ever before
>humans start mass producing toxic sneed oils
OMG HEART DISEASE SKYROCKETING, LETS REPLACE THE MEAT WITH THESE SNEED OILS BROS ?
> ERMAGERHDD DOOOD, PPL GETTING FATTER THAN EVER WTF IS GOING ON DOOOD
> MORE HEART DISEASE BROS, WE NEED MORE SNEED OIL PRODUCTS COOKED IN SNEED OILS BROS
... recent stud-ACK
Ancient Egyptians had plenty of heart disease without modern sneed oils
let me guess, a few handful of mummified corpses a thousand times more dead than the queen of england is a..
> " ClEaR iNdiCaToR Of HeArT dIsAeSe BroOOO "
how does that cognitive dissonance feel?
They also practiced tons of incest and the only bodies we have are the royals of the nations, where ate luxurious sugary and high fat foods, and got next to zero exercise. What a totally unbiased grouping hmmm
>high sugary foods
refined sugar did not exist in ancient egypt, the carbs in their diet that made them fat came exclusively from bread and seasonally fruits like dates
>refuting things I didnt say for 500 alex
no they were gorging on bread instead
Wrong
I wasn't taling about the royals
Thats who we have tho bodies of
there are accounts of contemporary people calling egyptians "Bread eaters", showing us that they probably ate more bread than the already bread heavy diets of the time.
Frickin' appeal to nature dunce strikes again.
Naw dude, people were documented have heart health issues in societies that ate large amounts of red meat, you just don't hear about it much on account of most people dying before that became an issue for them at the ripe old age of "fought with wildlife" or "the king wanted a new frickpalace".
Hell, this shit is readily disproved by how many people kicked the shitcan in their forties to heart attacks in the '50s.
But nah you're right, every dietary choice is super binary and I have to choose to either eat an entire fricking London broil or half a bottle of vegetable oil every meal. 200iQ
there hasnt been no fricking signs of poor heart health before the sneed oil industry boomed you fricking massive shill
>At the 2009 American Heart Association meeting in Florida, researchers presented study results showing that Egyptian mummies, some 3,500 years old, had evidence of cardiovascular disease — specifically atherosclerosis (which narrows the arteries) in different arteries of the body.
>Pharaoh Merenptah, who died in the year 1203 BCE, was plagued by atherosclerosis. Of the other mummies studied, 9 of the 16 also had probable-to-definite evidence of the disease.
They didn't mummify anyone except nobility. You are drawing from an inherently biased sample size.
they also didnt eat selectivly breed, genetically modified meat EVERY SINGLE DAY, they also used to hunt their food and ran for miles for it, unlike you ketolard snowBlack person LARPers "but we wuz vikingz and shiitt" who sit on your ass browsing /misc/ and and eating deep fried sticks of butter
they didn't live long enough to cause problems moron
>more veganisraelites LARPing as meat eaters
It's all so tiresome.
>force everyone take myocarditis jab
>I think meat did it to you
No refunds
Actually catching covid is more likely to give you myocarditis than the jab. Lol.
Scared weakling is afraid of needles.
Either taking the jab or the virus can in a very likely scenario give you myocarditis, but one of those rolls is guaranteed while the other isn't.
it's not guaranteed from the jab you complete moron.
I think he means that you don't have to get the vax- that is a choice.
>Take the jab
Chance to get fricked
>Get covid
Change to get fricked, but getting covid is not guaranteed
The Incidence of Myocarditis and Pericarditis in Post COVID-19 Unvaccinated Patients-A Large Population-Based Study
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35456309/
Abstract
Myocarditis and pericarditis are potential post-acute cardiac sequelae of COVID-19 infection, arising from adaptive immune responses. We aimed to study the incidence of post-acute COVID-19 myocarditis and pericarditis. Retrospective cohort study of 196,992 adults after COVID-19 infection in Clalit Health Services members in Israel between March 2020 and January 2021. Inpatient myocarditis and pericarditis diagnoses were retrieved from day 10 after positive PCR. Follow-up was censored on 28 February 2021, with minimum observation of 18 days. The control cohort of 590,976 adults with at least one negative PCR and no positive PCR were age- and sex-matched. Since the Israeli vaccination program was initiated on 20 December 2020, the time-period matching of the control cohort was calculated backward from 15 December 2020. Nine post-COVID-19 patients developed myocarditis (0.0046%), and eleven patients were diagnosed with pericarditis (0.0056%). In the control cohort, 27 patients had myocarditis (0.0046%) and 52 had pericarditis (0.0088%). Age (adjusted hazard ratio [aHR] 0.96, 95% confidence interval [CI]; 0.93 to 1.00) and male sex (aHR 4.42; 95% CI, 1.64 to 11.96) were associated with myocarditis. Male sex (aHR 1.93; 95% CI 1.09 to 3.41) and peripheral vascular disease (aHR 4.20; 95% CI 1.50 to 11.72) were associated with pericarditis. Post COVID-19 infection was not associated with either myocarditis (aHR 1.08; 95% CI 0.45 to 2.56) or pericarditis (aHR 0.53; 95% CI 0.25 to 1.13).
>We did not observe an increased incidence of neither pericarditis nor myocarditis in adult patients recovering from COVID-19 infection.
We did not observe an increased incidence of neither pericarditis nor myocarditis in adult patients recovering from COVID-19 infection.
vaxxies real quiet now lmao
You can eat meat without doing moronic meme diets like keto. Meat shouldn't be the only thing you eat
>grouping red meat with processed meat
No agenda here.
Gotta love when they always do that shit. Also claiming that lunchmeat is categorically bad for you, as if taking a beef roast or chicken breast and putting it through a deli slicer magically makes it equivalent to spam/oscar-meyer mystery meat goyslop
Just do HCLF plant based with skim milk and potatoes as your foundation.
>he got the "vaccine"
my dad is 74 and he's lost 80 pounds on keto (down from 310 to 230). he's had heart issues all his life, and he has to do those heart stress tests all the time. his doctor has *not* advised him to stop keto. he in fact encourages him to "keep doing what he's doing."
i'm not saying you're wrong, op. i'm just trying to give another side, since you're warning people away from something that clearly works for some people.
>my father lost weight due to calorie restriction therefore what he eats to meet his goal is inconsequential to his health
OK buddy
try putting some effort into your point. i can tell you're just a shitposter, so i'll ignore you from now on.
If you can't take away that anons point from that post I don't even know why you are engaging
It is because an ancient over 70 year old person finally managed to lose some fricking weight and fix his health issues without having superhuman willpower or having to autistically calculate spreadsheets of calorie intakes while enjoying really tasty meals until satiety.
But sure he should have just eaten the same crap he had eaten for decades and just try to eat less like literally everyone tries and fails to do. Just eat 1kcal below your tdee every day and you will lose one pound in about 3000 years according to CICO.
Being full doesn't mean what you are full of is beneficial to your health. Keto is cico
But that is the fricking point of high satiety foods moron
You don't eat until you are full as you will naturally feel you have eaten enough and simply stop way before you ever get full
OP is a WEF false flagger do not listen to him
>keto meme
>2022
Did you vaxx?
Ketards: "that doctor doesn't understand the human body and is going by outdated medical training, quit going to that doctor and find a keto friendly one, your heart issues were actually caused by not sticking to keto well enough. If you experience heart problems in future while doing keto perfectly it's all because of that fruit you ate back then, costly mistake."
Eat fish
Take 5 gr of potassium daily, reduce your omega 6(vegetable oils) and eat more omega 3
Vaxxie, Vaxxie, Heart Attacksie!
Takes his tests and wears his maskies.
Still got Covid, every strain.
Got spike proteins in his brain!
Got the VAIDS at 24,
“Dr. Fauchi, gimmie more!”
Had a stroke at 25,
“Thank Moderna I’m alive!”
Swollen heart at 26,
Prayed to Pfizer for a fix.
Died of SADS at 27,
Somehow thought he’d get to heaven!
Vaxxie, Vaxxie, heart attacksie!
Took his clot shots, wore his maskies!
Obituary headline noted:
“Anti-Vaxxer Dies of Covid”
>Deprives himself from nutrient that can be obtained only from eating vegetables and fruits.
>stops eating meet, but still doesn't include vegetables and fruits
>Health
I did keto at the end of 2020, for 3 months, of 20 net carbs a day. I got strep throat after those 3 months, began to syncopate after 4 days of strep throat, and ended up getting diagnosed with heart failure after a week in the ICU. They told me it was from the strep throat spreading to my organs and that keto also played a role. Which is a shame, I was losing 6lbs of fat per 2 weeks doing 3 hour gym sessions 5 times a week with the keto. I almost got to my goal before the hospitalization and afterwards was depressed and gained the weight back. Then I got addicted to adderall and just fasted until I got down to 9% bf.
Moral of the story frick keto just doing drugs
>red meat linked to increased risk of heart disease
>red meat
The solution is simple, but dye the meat blue. Problem solved.
>34
>Heart problems
Vaxxtard confirmed
>a diet program a hundred fricking years old that legitimately worked is actually bad for you, says the israelite
>he fell for the ketolard spamming
Anon, theres a fork in the road here. You can either carry on being a disgusting meatcuck, or you can be a superior being and take the plant-based pill
>hyperprocessed goyslop
To bad this thread already has so many replies that mine won’t get noticed, I love trolling carnitards
>Go to a doctor
that's where you fricked up
it took you this much to realize it is literally veganism...
...well at least since there no religion attached to it you managed to not-fricking-die.