>got fit as fuck. >personally found out about the halo effect. >see how much better I get treated by women

>got fit as fuck
>personally found out about the halo effect
>see how much better I get treated by women
>just makes me spiteful
how do i fix this

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    There's no effect. Fit people are on average more smart and hard working. They deserve to be treated better. Maybe try to uplift unfit brethren instead of seething at their mistreatment.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      i cant really refute that tbh, i do feel like a better human just by the virtue of being fit but i certainly don't treat the unfit any worse out worldly because of it

      >just makes me spiteful
      You are still identifying with your past self. Let it go.

      am i just meant to adopt a whole different persona because i started lifting? im still the same person dammit

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Nah, but ask yourself if your resentment, your insecurities, possible pain from rejection etc is really essential to your 'persona'.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          is it bad that i think it really is? I would never know who i really am if i never went through all of my tribulations and came out the other side

          you dont treat beautiful women better than ugly ones? stop being hypocritical

          better maybe yes, but i never put anyone down for supposedly being lower than me

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >I would never know who i really am if i never went through all of my tribulations and came out the other side

            Maybe it is essential, who am I to know? Maybe it is essential to who you are now, but not to who you could become. I know for myself that at some point it all just felt so small and unimportant and it felt like a liberation to move on. I can really recommend reading Aristotle on moral virtues.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >but not to who you could become
              you've convinced me in a way with this line
              >I can really recommend reading Aristotle on moral virtues.
              the greeks have always been a source of timless comfort for me, I never felt more amazed then when i stood next a 20ft marble statue of zeus

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >better maybe yes, but i never put anyone down for supposedly being lower than me
            I would. I do. I don't even see fats and assorted DYELs as people. If you aren't fit you don't exist.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Do you want incel to be your persona?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Not that anon but I needed to read this, thanks bro

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Nah, but ask yourself if your resentment, your insecurities, possible pain from rejection etc is really essential to your 'persona'.

        This shit's been playing in my head too much lately.
        I've gone from literal schizo outcast to hottest guy in the room and it's hell to adjust to. Only recently lost my virginity and the chick thought I was shitting her. Just today two girls initiated some sort of flirting and I spaghetti 9 times out of 10.
        I just feel like I need some more money, and a practice gf, and I'll probably be in a much better place. I've accepted that I've changed.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      moron the halo effect is about attractiveness. People think that someone attractive is a better person than someone of equal fitness but with a worse face.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        But they literally are

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        how are they wrong? someone who takes care of themself is seen as a better person, what a fucking surprise

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          yes let me just take care of my hairline and face shape and structure and chin and jaw and eyes before birth. retard.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            being born ugly is a reliable correlate of genetic load

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Hardworking people are attractive. Being hardworking changes your body, face, and demeanor to be attractive. We have evolved to feel this way.
        >inb4 you can be born ugly
        That is a delusion.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Being hardworking changes your (...) face
          lol this is the halo effect on steroids

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        They are, though. Evolutionarily speaking they got better food, better treatment from the tribe, better everything. That and winning a genetic lottery, but law of large numbers dictates that luck isn't the only factor.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Fit people are on average more smart
      Hahaha... no.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Lack of obesity/overweightedness is correlated with intelligence.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          fella whats up with tryin to sound smart you know you shoulda been SMARTER, now that ur fit and aint so FAT

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Fit people are on average more smart and hard working.
      You just gave a great example of how the halo effect works.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        There's a causal link between obesity and decreased brain function. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7598577/

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          It's not just about obesity, though. If people see two equally fit men, and one of them has a much more attractive face, they're going to think that guy is smarter.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Nah I lost a ton of weight a few years back and it's real. Random people are nicer, it's not even a "women treat you better because they want to fuck" thing, everyone treats you better. We probably just have some wiring in our brains that make us behave more positively around people we consider fit.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        i can go out by myself, approach nobody nor initiate conversations, and i’ll somehow have made guy friends and different women approaching me throughout the night. it’s very much real

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        My point is it's not an unreasonable effect. Fit people are just usually better people.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I second this. I went from beached whale to skinny fat retard and even I feel this let alone actually being fit.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I second this. I went from beached whale to skinny fat retard and even I feel this let alone actually being fit.

        Not being fat represents having better self-control, better work ethic, and better health for things like brain function. It's probably reasonable to assume that humans are hardcoded by evolution to dislike obesity.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        [...]
        Not being fat represents having better self-control, better work ethic, and better health for things like brain function. It's probably reasonable to assume that humans are hardcoded by evolution to dislike obesity.

        that's exactly it, it's about utility. fit men are more useful to the tribe for obvious reasons, the biggest one being war. as they are more important, they are given preferential treatment and I imagine people evolved to be nice to them so they are rewarded for the high-effort pursuit of fitness and, of course, to actually get on their radar to fuck.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Also fat people usually stink

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Wow ya think so fatty? Is this a fucking epiphany to you or something?
        Fat people are fucking gross.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          People like you are a cancer of IST. Uplift others, don't put them down.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >when I started bathing people wanted to be around me more
        Being massively fat is a moral failing, different than ugliness or acute manletism.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        our grug brains at work. its instinct to follow and look up to physically larger/stronger/fit people

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Big is best. Ork mentality

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Fit people are on average more smart and hard working
      this whole board is proof against that

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        This board isn't fit.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous
      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        This board is 99% fat guys posting bullshit wearing cheeto stained underwear.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >fit = smart
        The conversations I hear on a weekly basis would refute this claim.

        Counterpoint: most people here aren't actually fit.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >fit = smart
      The conversations I hear on a weekly basis would refute this claim.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Physical fitness and IQ are statistically correlated

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Most people here aren't actually fit. They're dyel, fat, or frauds. If you talk to any anon that does both lifting and cardio, they are very likely above average

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >muh iq got 20 points higher after losing weight

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      How big is your dick?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      This. Guarantee OP treats fit women better than fatties he encounters.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You don't.
    You use it to your advantage.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Katya sitak

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    My step sister walked in on me jacking off to this slut last week. She came over to pick up some clothes she was storing at my place. Have been ignoring her since just too embarrassed

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >embarrassed

      >being embarrassed about masturbating

      Wanking over porn is bad, but being ashamed of such an act is pathetic.
      Front it out bro.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >being ashamed of having a porn addiction is bad
        No, being ashamed of awful, addictive, sinful behavior is exactly the right response. It means he felt conviction over what he did because he innately knew it was wrong. The best thing anyone could do in such a situation is apologize to the transgressed person and strive to avoid the behavior that led up the transgression in the first place.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Who said anything about an addiction? Bro was just flogging his dolphin to a slut we don’t know if it’s a daily occurrence.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          yeah, his sister should have apologized for not knocking

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Nah he should be considerate enough not to have his be greasing his fucking cock with family members home. Muh privacy is fucking retarded cope.
            But yeah Americans and decency don’t go together.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Read the original post again, she came to HIS place. It wasn't a shared family home.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Blessed post

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Absolutely based. We have God's law carved on our hearts, our conscience knows when we sin

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Only I get to hate myself, everyone else shut the fuck up.

    • 2 months ago
      The shameful

      You missed your chance.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Name

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Jia Lissa, I think.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >what are you doing step brother

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      She just walked in without knocking? She should apologize to you.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >step sister walked in on me jacking off
      Sure thing, bud.

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Most of the time there's no underlying malice, people just won't put in the extra effort to be socially agreeable to the unattractive. Consider your own perspective of unattractive people and how you treat them

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why do you get spiteful about the nature of reality?

      >just makes me spiteful
      You are still identifying with your past self. Let it go.

      Meh I'm sure you treat women you're attracted to better than women you're not. Same thing. No one wants to commit emotional energy to looklets

      >You treat beautiful women better than all the majority who are average, ugly or fat
      I don't for various logical reasons:
      1. I'm taken. There's no point of putting effort in towards a pretty girl when I'm already in a relationship.
      2. Literally the vast majority of women who are 8 or higher are already in relationship or married with children. I'm not a homewrecker and I don't intend to cheat. There's no point to it.
      3. Even if this gal was willing to cheat, what does that tell you about that person and what she intends to do with you if she finds someone else?
      4. If a hot girl is already in a relationship and you're taken, treating her better than others is a waste of time. She probably won't even thank you for you effort because she gets the benefit of the Halo Effect everywhere, by everyone, all the time.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I met my wife when we both cheated on our relationships at the same time. I don’t recommend this and this is in no way an endorsement of cheating. I wish we had met another way. But that’s what happened.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          in 10 years you're going to find out she cheated on you a bunch and wonder wtf happened

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            yeah, what a retard kek. hey let me marry this cheater really quick, surely she won't do the same to me

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    just be around some ugly and fat women. they’ll treat you like shit out of sheer projection and you’ll be back to normal

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why do you get spiteful about the nature of reality?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Cause he’s a bitch that can’t handle reality

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    reject women, pursue girls

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >just makes me spiteful
    You are still identifying with your past self. Let it go.

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    you dont treat beautiful women better than ugly ones? stop being hypocritical

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Congrats, you broke through the matrix.
    This isn't the based & redpilled answer you want to hear, but the only thing you can do now is humble yourself and be kind to people. Remember when people weren't nice to you when you were uggo? Now you've gained some power to make people believe there's good in the world.

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    accept the truth. lookism is real. the problem is when you use it as an excuse not to self improve or try at all, but it is true that better looking people will be treated better and more respected

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Meh I'm sure you treat women you're attracted to better than women you're not. Same thing. No one wants to commit emotional energy to looklets

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I never experienced this change? Does that mean I was always handsome?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      that or were never fat

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    TFW you’ve always been treated well by both men and women because you’re attractive and jacked as fuck. Pretty sure I’ve gotten so many opportunities in life because of this

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Pretty sure I’ve gotten so many opportunities in life because of this
      probably, just use your advantage to help others who are not so fortunate

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Definitely. I only help those who actually try though. Not my job to save everyone if they won’t even at least try it themselves

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          oh of course that goes without saying, its a commendable thing to better oneself

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >mfw I realize people put too much trust in me because of my looks, and that only leads to disappointment later on
      It got a little better after I started facking it until making it. But the effort of making fake promises real is so tiring. This is what being an adult means, I guess.

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I am IST for 8 years straight now, lift and eat better than anyone around me.

    Never even kissed a girl

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Go on Tinder jesus christ it isn't difficult

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        No good results on Tinder, seems like it's only bots honestly

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          This, has anyone been on there recently? Just Instagram/Snapchat/onlyfans bots.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            No good results on Tinder, seems like it's only bots honestly

            I've noticed in general Tinder has become less and less valuable. I was using it in like 2016 and while it was still trash it actually had a bit of reasonable usage still. You got 1 Super Like per day or some shit and it was simple. Now it's algorithm fucked beyond saving.

            I've noticed the older my account, the less visible my profile is. I don't get any uglier, but I get less and less and less matches and Likes the longer between recreating accounts. It's gotten to a point now where I should reset because it's literally pointless to use as anything other than a way to scope out chicks in the area.

            Dudes waste so much time obsessing over "How are my pictures?" "Is the wording of my bio good?" on here and r/tinder when nonee of that fucking matters. The reality is that the user ratio is 65:35 men to women at best, and you are getting downranked.

            You're being sorted underneath:
            >Super Boosts
            >Super likes
            >Boosts
            >Priority Likes
            and that cute girl you're really hoping matches with you is only swiping through maybe twenty profiles a week as a joke with her friends. You're never even gonna be seen.

            Also I've noticed less and less will girls bother to respond. Hinge I find somewhat better because at least it lets you message first, but it has a low userbase.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Wait a sec... that gives me an idea. What If I coded some female bots that just swipe through until they get to my profile and like it? If I have enough active bots, I'd be able to boost my profile (and potentially any friends' profiles) for free.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >he thinks Likes influence visibility for men

                Anon...

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Hinge I find somewhat better because at least it lets you message first, but it has a low userbase.
              Hinge has only given me golems and chuds. Never a match. I just stick to in person stuff now which at least doesn't have catfishing in anyway.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >All coworkers dudes or nonviable women
                >Gym filled with dudes and nonviable women
                >Church filled with boomers, rare women who I'd be interested in are with family
                Seriously, I keep hearing "just meet people in person." But WHERE? The damn grocery store? Bars and clubs are obnoxious, but even if they weren't everyone there is with a group. There are no women sipping a martini alone at the bar like in the movies. Where the hell is this "in person" place for people not on a college campus?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Volunteer, donate platelets every couple weeks (no gays allowed), audition for some community theater, do an intramural sport. It's not easy shit, but you gotta do what they want to do and be where they are.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                you make friends with people who are interesting to you even though they are dudes or nonviable women, establish a social circle, and then date their friends/sisters/daughters

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I use meetup.com and go to social events for 20s-30s people. I have also gotten into taking dance classes for cardio. I go to random parties and events that seem cool to me. I practice talking to everyone I meet, even if I feel introverted and shy that day. I have gotten very good at flirting and having a fun and relaxed time with women, even if it doesn't always end in a date my social life has improved immensely from always picking to be brave and going out whenever I can even when I feel a bit tired of it.
                It works a lot better if you live in a city and not a rural area.
                I don't go to bars or clubs.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Wait does meetup actually work for making quality friends, I thought it'd be full of nonwhites or ugly people.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      its cause you dont want to.

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I hate being 5'7.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      good luck in the finals sunday

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I love being 5’6.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm 5'4"
      went out to dinner on sunday with a girl who is 5'11"

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You don’t fap to women because they have great personalities, anon.

    The only way to fix it is to kys, and I mean that sincerely.

  18. 2 months ago
    AVE TARZANVS AZELON

    realize that women just want to feel safe by associating themselves with positive energy chads.
    if you're able to save yourself, it is also logical that you'd be able to protect women.
    the solution is;
    start a family and make the 'mirin bitches seethe over not being theirs.

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    That's the curse anon.

    The more you interact with women, the more you come to understand them, the more you hate them. Girls' most retarded selves have been unleashed by modern society, and it's only a rational, reasonable response to have disdain for them and think less of them the more you interact with them. I used to romanticize girls before I actually started fucking them after getting IST. Now I see them as everything people always said men were.

    They say men are hormone driven neanderthals, but frankly women are primarily driven by whether or not you make their vagina wet when they look at you. They are also driven simply by your social status and whether other girls want you. Their attraction to you literally can often not even come from within, but from social validation. You could actually be handsome but if you only have 67 IG followers she's going to get "the ick" because you're not the center of attention for other girls.

    They say men want to compete for women, and that may be true, but even more so do women want to compete for the highest tier male they can throw themselves at and ignore anyone lesser. They themselves want to be status symbol objects. They want other girls to look at them and be jealous that they are arm candy.

    They are all retarded. Literally just fuck them but never think for a second they're worth any sort of emotional investment. Trying to find an even just decent looking girl who is suitable for and worth investing in and hasn't been utterly mindbroken by the social media attention drug since 12 is like looking for a unicorn now.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Trying to find an even just decent looking girl who is suitable for and worth investing in and hasn't been utterly mindbroken by the social media attention drug since 12 is like looking for a unicorn now.
      the worst thing is that i actually found her but pushed her away with my own incompetence, she was head over heels with me and i treated like shit man

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        That's because for 99.999999999999% treating them like shit is the only way to get them to respond positively since it's the only way to differentiate yourself from the literal ARMY of THOUSANDS of simping fucking dudes in their inboxes and orbiting them in their social circle.

        Then when you finally find a good one all of the behaviour that girls have taught you they respond to up to that point backfires.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          all i want is a do-over with her but since i cant get that, the best i can do is get another gf but even that seems tough atm

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            If only life had a rewind button anon.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Damn that’s crazy

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, i agree anon, but i cant listen to some girl yapping more than 1 minute, my brains just shuts down. I dont hate them anymore, i just think that they are really boring. If there wasnt biological urge to put penis in them i wouldnt even go outside, i would live like a hermit.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >but frankly women are primarily driven by whether or not you make their vagina wet when they look at you.
      You say that as if men aren't the same.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Something something incel jibberjabber wall of text shut the fuck up retard say what you will about MGTOW but at least it stops these genetic dead ends to reproduce

      >but frankly women are primarily driven by whether or not you make their vagina wet when they look at you.
      You say that as if men aren't the same.

      This

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Trying to find an even just decent looking girl who is suitable for and worth investing in and hasn't been utterly mindbroken by the social media attention drug since 12 is like looking for a unicorn now
      Is this really true? I'm above 30 and social media used to be this stupid niche photo album chat thing back then. Reading posts like these make me eternally grateful for finding my girl back in the days. I can't imagine myself bothering with all this social media shit just to get some dumb dopamine addicted thot.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >IG followers
      I actively refuse to make an instagram account. I don't care if I'm missing out on opportunities to meet women, I will continue boycotting it 100%.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Women are mindless coomers. This is a hill I am willing to die on.

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    People with actual interpersonal charisma override this. If someone asked me who the friendliest/nicest guy I know is the person that pops into my head:
    >wears thick bottle-bottom round glasses
    >has a massive head
    >ginger and already has a bald spot at like 23
    >huge protuberant ears
    If he was always in his own head and awkwardly stared at people you'd not want much to do with him but he's the life of the party and makes any group he's in more fun. Looks are basically the only thing people have to go off when you don't open up to them/show them the value you have inside, what else are they going to do? Sure there's the odd saint among us who's warm, understanding and will go out of their way to talk to someone fat, ugly and awkward but the reality is most people aren't, this probably includes you.

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    stop being an incel

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Gz. You found out that 99% of people are absolute garbage. Better to find out now than later.

  23. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You don't Anon.
    I got genuine charisma, I am naturally good at talking and expressing myself, and I was so good that even as an unwashed filthy fat nerd people treated me with respect.
    The tipping point for me was the time a girl told me I could easily get pussy if I stopped being such a fat bastard.
    Looking back she was absolutely right, I had great chemistry with a bunch of alt girls, and to this day I hate my younger self for not realizing this truth earlier.
    But it doesn't stop with pussy, all of a sudden every personality trait that I had which was seen as negative was received as being positive, being my loud and assertive nature, or my hands-on approach to things.
    The best you can do is be glad that you improved and make the best of said advantage.
    TL: DR
    Looks multiple the value of your attributes, e.g. a fit nerd is valued higher than a smarter but skinny fat nerd

  24. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    i hate women

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Because you couldn't turn into one

  25. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Even after losing weight and putting on some muscle women still aren’t interested in me. The most I’ve ever gotten is some compliments from guys, but they’re two faced compliments anyways. Should I kill myself? I’m 20

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Even after losing weight and putting on some muscle
      Good for you!

      >women still aren’t interested in me.
      Are you confident in your ability to identify interest?
      Because even confident normies are shit at it. Empirically shit. Some are slightly better than chance, and that gives them an advantage, but over all people are terrible at correctly identifying interest.

      >The most I’ve ever gotten is some compliments from guys,
      >but they’re two faced compliments anyways.
      To faced complements are a sign of their own insecurities. Don't worry about that.

      >Should I kill myself? I’m 20
      No.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, women don’t really talk to me or anything. I go to pubs or whatever and women aren’t looking at me. I haven’t really approached any women in a pub before though. I think it would be better to do that in a nightclub. I don’t really know how to even approach them though

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >I go to pubs or whatever and women aren’t looking at me.
          No, they're talking to people, they're not standing around looking in random directions. You need to be able to strike up a 5 minute conversation with a variety of people.
          If the person you talk to isn't flirting, you'll probably guess correctly that they're not flirting, (false positives are rare) ... but if a woman is actually flirting, you'll miss it 80% of the time.

          You talk to 20 women, if 5 of them are interested, you'll notice One of them show an interest. If you're a regular amount of normal man oblivious.

          Wait, Pubs? are you in Ireland or the UK?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            How am I supposed to talk to them though. Do i just walk up to them and ask how their day was? And yeah I’m from the uk

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              OK! It makes a surprising amount of difference where you are, even though people are people everywhere.
              You're 20? You in Uni? or working? Are you in the pub one your own? or with people?

              I'm going to bed soon, so this is going to be quick.

              Pass comment about the place you are in.
              ask a question, respond to the answer, if the pub is loud and you don't really hear an answer just nod, and make some other comment.

              >while queuing to order
              busy night! do you think the barman's going too slow/quick

              She'll either answer, or she'll look confused, or just ignore you.
              Doesn't matter, if you get no response just order your pint. I she does say anything at all back just respond to that with like anything that makes any sense.

              >Yeah! He's really going fast!
              I hope he doesn't skip us! quick get that spot before these guys get a head of us!

              Don't think about "What should I say next?" if you've nothing obvious to say, get your drink, say "See you round!" and head back to your mates.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >She'll either answer, or she'll look confused, or just ignore you.
                none of these tell you she's interested or not.
                I've had women say "The guy talked to me, and I panicked and looked away, and when I looked back he was gone"

                The exact specifics of what you say, and to whom you say it aren't important.

                If you're in Uni, find some clubs/socs, go to their mixers.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                > If you're in Uni, find some clubs/socs, go to their mixers
                literally what clubs though? i go to a technical institute, majoring in stem and have mostly male hobbies (lifting, bjj, football, tennis, climbing, chess, computer shit, etc.). Am I supposed to start dancing or something like that? I'm not super desperate at this point, but I always hear this "go to clubs if in uni" advice and just genuinely curious what sorts of clubs you have in mind. The one place I have had a bit of success in terms of the m/f ratio is in the russian language learning club, but unfortunately there are not too many members.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >but what clubs?!
                >male hobbies ... tennis, climbing ...
                Weird, loads of women in climbing clubs round here, at least there were, 10 years ago.
                But no, the point was that you're obviously going out on your own to the pub. You need to be in a group, club mixers, in a pub, gives you a group to fall back to when women aren't in a great mood. You don't look like a lone creep.

                You're in the pub with 15 people from the Athletics Club (this is IST after all) if the 3 women in the club are there, and aren't interested, then just be friendly with them, and by their very presence they make other women more comfortable. Other women in the pub. Where the Club mixer is happening. Or you make friends from the club, and go to some random party, and then its the same thing. You have a small squad you can talk to when things aren't going great, and women can see you talking to women, who don't squirm to get away from you.

                The club itself may have too few women to form a dating pool for you, that's not the idea.
                The idea is that you meet and talk to more people, and more women, in a context that increases your exposure, and make some friends, Not best friends, not "I can't believe it you're like a brother to me" friends, just "This person is part of my social circle and he's trust worthy enough that I can sit with him and these other men in a pub. If your social circle doesn't include any women, then you will not meet women, and women will not see you talking to women, and women like men who other women are talking to, and look happy to do so.

                >Which club
                Fuck it. Join Salsa club.
                There'll be some women, you can learn a skill.
                Again, you're not joining the club to date the women, (but if that happens then good for you) you're joining the club to have more exposure to more people,
                so you can be seen with, and then meet more people, some of whom will be women.
                And so you have something to talk with them about.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >if you've nothing obvious to say,
                I have to return some video tapes.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Unironically you can start talking about the video tapes and ask her what movies she likes etc. lmao it really is that easy

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Unironically you can start talking about the video tapes and ask her what movies she likes etc. lmao it really is that easy

                It's as easy as booking a table at a restaurant

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Pic related

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Haha…..that’s me!

                >t. 45yo

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Go up and ask them about something you noticed on one of them. Or ask them to guess how old you are, or ask if they think you're a blue collor worker or an office monkey. Fucking anything. Jestermaxx, and based off their reactions, you either keep talking or get the fuck out. What matters is that you're the one having fun.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Thing is, you should reach a point where every girl is below you. because technically, majority of girls are. Men > females. If you are a man, you are better than all females. Being a female is like being a third worlder in a first world country. You see all this greatness around you that your own country can never create or replicate even if giving 100,000 years.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Problem is you need to start conversation.
          Not fucking wait for women
          Wat the hell

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        So how do you identify interest

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Youre 20, most males that age are invisible to females, its worse if u were pre-18. Dnt fall for their tricks, as u age, more and more chicks will be interested in u. Improve urself but always learn game. dont follow the masses.

  26. 2 months ago
    Carl

    Breed reds

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I can't trust white women anymore. They're hot as fuck but they're batshit crazy. Dated more than 20 of them and they all had some underlying unresolved issues.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >I can't trust women anymore. They're hot as fuck but they're batshit crazy. Dated more than 20 of them and they all had some underlying unresolved issues
        Fixed

  27. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    dont be spitefull. stop consuming anti-feminist shit. contrary to what females post on the internet, they are all aware of their fading looks and youth. they just want some above average to settle down with and other normie stuff. on the other hand, dont be some beta that she settles down with after hitting the wall.

  28. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The answer is why shouldn't they treat you better? Fit people deserve to be treated better for all the labor and consistency it took for them to get there.
    Remember, the first thing you say to someone is how you look. Put in the effort and it reaps the deserved rewards.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Fit people deserve to be treated better for all the labor and consistency it took for them to get there.
      thats not why they shud be treated better, they should be treated better because they are fit. nothing more, nothing less.

  29. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The only thing I would change is women fucking staring at me unblinking at bars. It is weird as hell and I don't know how to deal with it. It's crazy that full grown women don't know how to flirt or make a move besides just staring at you and drinking from a straw or looking at you for a long time and playing with their hair. It's nice to be wanted but I'm too autistic to deal with this.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      its cause youre new and untimidating. and it means go talk to them too.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Nah fuck that. If a woman wants to talk with me she can start the conversation.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      This is literally the only thing I want from a woman. Like, literally. If she makes strong eye contact and she's not an ogre or a fatty, It takes me one extra glance back a second time to see if she's serious and roughly 4 seconds, perhaps 25 seconds total, to approach her and ngl I'd probably be able to have sex with her then and there.
      Perhaps you are the autistic, perhaps I am. But I don't think I am.
      I don't, off course, but I instantly start Operation Kino (touching, escalating, checking if she has a place nearby or wants to come to mine). Also I do this sober.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        how many times it happens you get eye contact and then fuck the bitch on the same day? And how do you proceed from the eye contact to the conversation with her? pls i need to know this

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Anon, it's not that men are poor at dating, but rather dating is CRINGE for men. It's borderline unnatural for a guy to "approach and seduce" a woman. Ironically, the male fantasy of "girls finding me so hot they approach me" is what women want to - she gets to choose her mate.

          As much as I love modern conveniences, a lot of things we do are primal and sex is in the upper percentile. You didn't use to "approach" women. You either fought some other guys and took her as a prize, or you got vouched by the community you live in as a desireable guy. Social media truly ruined relationships, as women's biological instinct is to "keep herself for the best male" in a world of 1000000 options.

          K nothing so far I've written is actually useful to you so let's see: if you're dating girls under 25 (Like Leonardo DiCaprio does) their need-to-fuck overrides their "preserve for best" instinct. Mingle with crows that have women, socialize with just about everyone using the context (school, office etc) and do mildly-dumb, attention grabbing stuff at the gatherings. Don't be afraid to make a fool of yourself - within reason - because that says you have enough going well for you to afford doing so.

          If over 25, you need to treat women like girls anyway. Be mildly interested, never show too much availability (as you got better stuff than her to do, so she'll want to be in the "better stuff category". Regarding approaching ... yeah it's either common aquaintances so you're not a creep, or building a cringe immunity.

          "Hi, creepy question I know, is there anything to do in this town besides tinder and beer?"

  30. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Real talk, when I was fat and people (not just women) would literally just leave me on read, or ignore me IRL when I talked to them, and now that I'm lean I can actually get dates easily, people ask me out to places, etc...

    When I think back to the way I used to be treated, and I mean really think back (meditate on it), it makes me not give a fuck about anyone in my life. It makes me want to cheat on my current girlfriend, and I probably will.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You should.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I don't understand this bitterness at all. Would you date a morbidly obese chick? If she did a 180 and completely turnd her life around to become thin and attractive wouldn't you change your mind about her?

      >noooooooooo they didn't like me when I was fat and gross so I improved myself and now they like me, what fucking cunts nooooooooooo

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I actually wouldn't, I dated a chick who used to be fat, her excess skin and stuff were gross af

  31. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >go into engineering
    >all my classmates were nerdy pasty alien looking motherfuckers who couldn’t look at you in the eye for more than a second without stuttering and looking away uncomfortably like a deer in the headlights
    >graduate
    >get internship
    >every single person i meet is actively anti-charismatic
    >do a decent job. Not the absolute best, but good.
    >hammered with promotions left right and center
    Im not even that attractive. bros here are so socially underdeveloped cuz they spent their entire youth doing absolutely nothing that just being normal is enough to stand out.
    Wait til these gays witness my cut. Gonna be piping my 48 year old manager when we meet next in august.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Where do you work, I work with computers to and everyone’s pretty good socially. Little autistic but pretty friendly and well adjusted. It’s possible I am also just very autistic so can’t tell though.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        being social means talking. thats it. sometimes on dates, girls talk, and i ignore them, ive had them walk off on me, then i just talk to the next girl.

        being born ugly is a reliable correlate of genetic load

  32. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Okay OP there’s a cycle to this.

    >get IST
    >become a bit jaded
    >try to adopt Zyzz/Chad attitude
    >get burned out by normies
    >use halo effect to become hedonistic
    >become even more jaded
    >stop caring about social shit, just lift, work hard, and be disciplined
    >act oblivious that you’re IST and hot because it doesn’t matter
    >focus on improving another aspect in your life while maintaining your IST lifestyle
    >eventually meet like minded frens
    >maybe even get married

  33. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    So you found out that women are all disloyal and crazy little goblins who are easily swayed by money and good looks. All you can do is accept what they are and retrain yourself to be attracted to them even though they are dumb assholes who don’t deserve you. Just remind yourself that you’re doing her a favor just by letting her near you, since she is a fucking goblin.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      where the fuck do you redpillers meet these retarded normie girls? most girls I've been involved with (either romantically or just friends) in my life were pretty chill and didn't care about superficial shit like money. do you just pursue extremely basic thots who listen to top 20 radio songs and have Live Laugh Love posters on their walls or something? why not go for more interesting girls who have creative hobbies and don't just pursue whatever society tells them to?

  34. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You have to train your incel mind.

  35. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >googled halo effect
    >saw this
    manletbros

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      In my experience being tall doesn't do shit. I'm 6'6" and it's still like pulling teeth trying to get girls not to treat me like subhuman trash. Maybe it gets your foot in the door with a select few absolute height fetishists, but after that it's basically just like getting a ticket to their wild ride of insanity.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Uh, 6'6" is borderline freak territory. The golden spot is like 4 inches shorter.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >looks smart
      this is what women think men want lmao

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >omg she's traveled so much and has a great career! She is so accomplished and has so much life experience!
        They unironically believe men think this.

  36. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >just makes me spiteful
    why

  37. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is it weird that I get the opposite reaction?
    >attractive by normie standards 6 foot with flats, thick solid tight, and long thick hair that I'm saving/protecting with fin/minox and I also actually take care of my hair and put it in different styles instead of just a ponytail
    >constantly hear when at bars/clubs by friends that girls are straight up staring at me or their gfs friends are asking about me
    >constantly see girls in the gym stare at me
    >go up to them to start a convo
    >IMMEDIATELY get the cold shoulder or they act like they want nothing to do with me or even want to be near me
    What the fuck is this phenomenon and how do I overcome it? I legit went up to a girl that my friends gf full on told me that she was asking about me and joking said that all I had to do was pick her up and take her home. When I said what's up her first words were
    >no thank you

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      it's called choking under pressure. It happens to a lot of non chad-trained women when they get approached by him. Realistically, very few of them actually close with Chad, maybe the top 5% 8 to 10s.
      So if you do approach a girl who's stuck in a rut of average guys in her social circle, she will 100% the second an actual Chad talk to her. And her defense mechanism, much like many women, is to instantly get defensive, evasive or hostile. I prefer the ones that get hostile, it's hot. But the evasive ones are a big buzzkill to be quite honest. I just drop them. Can't have a girl that chokes like that in basic conversation.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Because while you are attractive, you're not on the same level as the girls you find attractive.

      A girl looking at you doesn't guarantee she's interested.. Girls looking at you at bars or clubs or asking about you means nothing if they're just random basic bitch average girls (which are generally the only girls who openly express interest like that in a handsome man, hot girls have 1000 hot dudes in their inboxes, you're not special to them or some sort of opportunity).

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Is it weird that I get the opposite reaction?
        >attractive by normie standards 6 foot with flats, thick solid tight, and long thick hair that I'm saving/protecting with fin/minox and I also actually take care of my hair and put it in different styles instead of just a ponytail
        >constantly hear when at bars/clubs by friends that girls are straight up staring at me or their gfs friends are asking about me
        >constantly see girls in the gym stare at me
        >go up to them to start a convo
        >IMMEDIATELY get the cold shoulder or they act like they want nothing to do with me or even want to be near me
        What the fuck is this phenomenon and how do I overcome it? I legit went up to a girl that my friends gf full on told me that she was asking about me and joking said that all I had to do was pick her up and take her home. When I said what's up her first words were
        >no thank you

        shes attracted but might not be available. Its up to you to find out, bro.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >hot girls have 1000 hot dudes in their inboxes, you're not special to them or some sort of opportunity).
        After like 20 for a girl, hot dudes dont matter, why? because the girls cant keep those hot dudes, especially if they are based and red pilled. a 20+girl isnt going to risk getting her heart broken by a stud.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >hot girls have 1000 hot dudes in their inboxes,
        true but hot girls arent over age 21. and girls over age 21 cant retain hot men. and even if they retain the hot man, the hot man doesnt have hot man characteristics and ends up being a nice guy because women WILL test a man, no matter how hot you are . if you past her tests, or is a player, she might dump u anyways and not get heart broken.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Is it weird that I get the opposite reaction?
        >attractive by normie standards 6 foot with flats, thick solid tight, and long thick hair that I'm saving/protecting with fin/minox and I also actually take care of my hair and put it in different styles instead of just a ponytail
        >constantly hear when at bars/clubs by friends that girls are straight up staring at me or their gfs friends are asking about me
        >constantly see girls in the gym stare at me
        >go up to them to start a convo
        >IMMEDIATELY get the cold shoulder or they act like they want nothing to do with me or even want to be near me
        What the fuck is this phenomenon and how do I overcome it? I legit went up to a girl that my friends gf full on told me that she was asking about me and joking said that all I had to do was pick her up and take her home. When I said what's up her first words were
        >no thank you

        >Because while you are attractive, you're not on the same level as the girls you find attractive.
        an attractive man is WAY more attractive than a girl, why? cause females rely on make up. when a chick doesnt wear make up, shes gets ZERO attention. if a man is getting proper attention and stares, than he is attractive. go talk to her, she might be fuckign imtimidated as fuck. females dont expect this real masculine behaviour.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      get the cold shoulder or they act like they want nothing to do with me or even want to be near me
      some bitches just love to window shop and give mixed signals on purpose

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Just laugh semi dismissively and say
      >"yeah, alright"
      As if to say
      >"yeah okay retard, calm down"

      You will feel better about rejection if you leave her with the impression that she's weird and overreacting to this normal thing you are doing.

  38. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >”wait... people like me more if I shave and wash myself... no... but... what about my great personality...”

  39. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    ugly and lazy people getting worse treatment is based why should it be any other way

  40. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Realize that you do the same thing and being a pissbaby about human instinct just makes you a gay

  41. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >>just makes me spiteful
    >how do i fix this
    It never gets fixed. You'll sleep with uglier girls in hopes they'll be more genuine but they aren't. You'll end up disregarding them or using them like onaholes, depending on who you are.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >You'll sleep with uglier girls in hopes they'll be more genuine but they aren't.

      Facts. IST thinks an ugly girl is a good deal because she'll be honest, grateful and have depth of character.

      All it means is that the bullshit isn't even worthwhile. Every ugly girl has been turned inside out a hundred times, just by lower value guys.
      Their phones are still blowing up, they still get hit on by every drunk retard who takes one look at them and thinks
      >fuck, she's a 4/10, i bet with even a modest effort I could jam my dick up her tonight

      Disregard ugly women entirely.

  42. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    found out about the halo effect
    >>see how much better I get treated by women
    >>just makes me spiteful
    Yeah man I'm sure you behave exactly the same to beautiful, fit, well-groomed girls and homely, acne-covered or fat girls.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yes. I ignore them regardless of their looks.

  43. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    My ex looked like this nut she was bat crazy goddamn fit ill nave date someone as pretty and hot as her

  44. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    There's nothing wrong with the halo effect outside of people with deformities. People who put effort into their presentation deserve to be treated better.

    I'll never understand why this shit bothers you guys. Did you even like yourself as much before you got fit? Why should anyone else?

  45. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    What is there to be spiteful about? Here's another way of putting your story anon:

    >realized I was unattractive
    >worked hard to make myself attractive
    >attracted women
    >now angry

    Just don't be angry now. You recognized that women like IST men and you became IST. No need to be bitter that they didn't like you when you were an unhealthy tub of lard, be logical anon.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      it shows how shallow women really are and confirms all the bluepill nonsense about "muh personality" is pure cope

  46. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Anyone notice a reverse halo effect? Ever since I got fit, fat women go out of their way to give me shit.

  47. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Follow Jesus.

  48. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >People in this thread accusing others that most here would treat people differently based solely on their looks
    Don't compare me to you clowns. I was raised to treat everyone with respect and dignity. My oldman was a janitor until he retired and I hated those who treated people like him like trash, despite the fact that he treated everyone with respect. My mom stuck with him until he died despite the fact that he could barely walk, had cancer and was losing his hair.

    Sorry, but maybe you jesters should invest finding better women in your life instead of sticking to the basic Thots you surrounded yourselves with all this time. Maybe then you'll stop complaining about how all women are soulless goblins.

    Same deal with my cousin who was crippled at birth and suffered a stroke. Still loved him and treated him as any part of the family because that's what you're supposed to do, especially when they're vulnerable.

    As Muhammad Ali said: “I don’t trust anyone who’s nice to me but rude to the waiter. Because they would treat me the same way if I were in that position.”

    I'm not that kind of person who believes they're so above others that they don't bother even acting civil.

    Rot in hell and don't EVER compare your moral integrity to mine. We're clearly a breed apart.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >“I don’t trust anyone who’s nice to me but rude to the waiter. Because they would treat me the same way if I were in that position.”
      fucking exactly, I was simply raised to respect all growing up and I'm sorry for you fuckers if you weren't

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      fucking this a million times. People treating people """"beneath"""" them badly, are fucking trash.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I was raised in a small town to be polite and kind. I treat everyone with dignity, but I'm not rushing to date a fat person. Looks matter, end of story.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I don't think that Anon meant that looks don't matter. It is just that people advocate that they are the end of all meaning and that everything else is inferior and essentially does not contribute to the overall attractiveness and charisma of the person.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You're right, but you gotta stop getting angry at strangers on a balinese monkey-handling forum, man.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I'm not that kind of person who believes they're so above others that they don't bother even acting civil.

      >Rot in hell and don't EVER compare your moral integrity to mine. We're clearly a breed apart.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Based, my guy. This whole board is full of angry roided teenagers and frustrated ex-incels. We have diverted from the path given by Zyzz; a path of respect and aiding others in need.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        fucking this a million times. People treating people """"beneath"""" them badly, are fucking trash.

        https://i.imgur.com/0c0ZEog.jpg

        >People in this thread accusing others that most here would treat people differently based solely on their looks
        Don't compare me to you clowns. I was raised to treat everyone with respect and dignity. My oldman was a janitor until he retired and I hated those who treated people like him like trash, despite the fact that he treated everyone with respect. My mom stuck with him until he died despite the fact that he could barely walk, had cancer and was losing his hair.

        Sorry, but maybe you jesters should invest finding better women in your life instead of sticking to the basic Thots you surrounded yourselves with all this time. Maybe then you'll stop complaining about how all women are soulless goblins.

        Same deal with my cousin who was crippled at birth and suffered a stroke. Still loved him and treated him as any part of the family because that's what you're supposed to do, especially when they're vulnerable.

        As Muhammad Ali said: “I don’t trust anyone who’s nice to me but rude to the waiter. Because they would treat me the same way if I were in that position.”

        I'm not that kind of person who believes they're so above others that they don't bother even acting civil.

        Rot in hell and don't EVER compare your moral integrity to mine. We're clearly a breed apart.

        Agreed. WTH. I thought IST, of all places, would understand how messed up it is to be treated as inferior, simply because they weren't born beautiful or had 10% BF.

        I married the woman I met in high school. People constantly tell me why I married someone they would rank a 6, at best, and how lucky she is to be with me.

        She wanted to date me despite knowing I came from a poor family (despite the fact that she's from a family of doctors), was out of shape and stuck with me after I was injured in a car crash where I couldn't work for over 4 months. She'll be there with me until I die.

        I'm the lucky one, and there's more to relationships than just looks. All these anons here saying they would opt for a 10/10 every time just baffles me, especially when they know this type of gal would leave them at the slightest inconvenience, at a moment's notice, because of the Halo Effect.

        Is that the kind of person you want to spend your entire life with?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          They're either coomers or they've been heartbroken. So they've let lust and hate take over their hearts

          Your story is beautiful and so is your woman. May you cherish each other forever

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          It fills me with joy to hear of a story like yours where people can get away with simply being good people and be rewarded for it.

          “None of you has faith until he loves for his brother or his neighbor what he loves for himself."

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Don't get it either. I never dated someone who was considered a 8 or higher because they always have a backup and they know their looks lets them get away with a lot and they expect to be treated like royalty by everyone. The fact that a lot of anons here are so cynical and jaded that they still choose and even actively expect their spouse or significant other to leave them if they were disfigured, gained weight, or were suddenly unemployed just depressed me. And it's even worse when they admit they would do the same to their spouse or girlfriend.

          It's that kind of toxic mindset that results in a lot of failed relationships and divorces.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Great post. A lot of people itt seem to have only gotten fit so that they can look down on others.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >i have the moral high ground cause i'm grew up poor
      holy shit you're a gay have a nice day

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Agree with everything you said bro.
      Whatever the shitty people on here tell you, know you're right.

  49. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why would anyone else love/like you if you don't even love/like yourself? And what is your appearance other than a reflection of how much time / care you put into your appearance?

  50. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >That Sleepycabin episode where Mick RicePirate talks about how much nicer people were to him after losing weight

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Which ep

  51. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >be me
    >go to gym at same time every day
    >girl and presumably her boyfriend are always there at the same time as me
    >pay them little to no attention
    >recently I've been catching the girl staring at me a lot
    >catch her boyfriend glaring at me
    >I've never spoken to either of them

    What do I do?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      if you want to avoid unnecessary just keep ignoring them.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      if you want to avoid unnecessary just keep ignoring them.

      unnecessary drama* mb

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Slide her panties off to the side and start fucking her right then and there. Be a sigma male like me. Or just ask literally if you know them from college and go form there.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        But I went to college 10 years ago in a different city?

  52. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Honestly i’m nicer to fat girls because hot women intimidate me

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Thick girls can be hot as well

      I am not really into skinny bitches or rich girls

      I am into big booty women who are down to earth

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I should’ve said ugly girls in general
        If a girl is ugly i find it super easy to talk to them because there’s no weird sexual subtext in the back of my mind the whole time. They’re just one of the bros

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          it's the opposite for me lol
          whenever i talk to an ugly girl i'm uncomfortable because i don't want them to think that i'm into them
          talking to cute chicks feels much more natural

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        disgusting. Fatties aren't human and shouldn't be treated as such.

  53. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Delusional natty

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >GDE cant put on muscle and look good naturally
      >thinks everyone is the same

  54. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Name of the copper whore?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      katya sitak

  55. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    fall in love with a woman. lose spite, see women as lovers. get heart broken. hate women to the point of never giving them another chance. become gay. i get to fuck you.

  56. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You can't, it is what it is. Looks are all that matters in a superficial society which is what we live in. If you're not good looking, you have to be skilled at something and make money. Otherwise you will get nowhere with women.

  57. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    i get treated worse bros, do i have to use tank tops or what?

  58. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >got pretty fit from being fat
    >people treat me better, women look at me and talk to me more
    >realize it's just the halo effect
    >can't believe I didn't get fit sooner
    It's not so much an advantage for being in better shape, more a disadvantage for being fat. And you know what? I was a lazier, shittier person when I was fat, so everyone is right. If who you are inside isn't someone who can at least take care of yourself, people are right to assume you're shitty.

  59. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    welcome to the world of political economy you fucking retard. It's not just women, it's literally everyone around you you stupid gay

  60. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Just waste your time playing videogames and on IST until you're old compared to zoomer girls, which let's face it is the only thing in this world that matters, then noone will look at you again. That's what I did and it worked for me.

  61. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >muh halo effect
    the most autistic shit I've read in a while
    normies enjoy spending time around attractive people
    for this reason, they tolerate their bullshit better (see also 'disarming smile')
    that's it

  62. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >become a better person makes people treat you like a better person - and that is le BAD

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