got mogged at my BJJ gym the other day, need to start lifting

long story short some powerlifter meatball came into our gym and mogged me with raw strength

i'm 5'11 ~160lbs, blue belt
normally i can beat bigger guys by using pure technique, but he was too strong
i train BJJ 5x per week, i don't want to be in the gym every single day, maybe a 2-3x per week strength program would be best for me
does anybody have any suggestions?
PPL seems like a decent program but i only care about building functional strength, not maximizing my size or aesthetics

thanks

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You will never be able to beat big guys in a fair fight as a twink manlet

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      useless prick

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        he's right though. you've been playing too much dark souls.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Ppl is more effective when you do it 6x a week. Upper lower or full body 3x/week is better. Focus on compunds and progessive overload. Or do it og brazillian style: roll hard every day, do a bro split and roid

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If you can try to lift in the morning if you roll at night. It sounds counterintuitive but you should lift on the days you do a lot of rolling. The next day you'll have to roll a little lighter but it's was better than lifting the day before and having to do your hard rolling while being sore.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >crying because you got beat by someone not doing BJJ while doing BJJ
    Does it matter? Unless you're at a mcdojo your coach is gonna look at some powershitter throwing you across the mat and bench pressing you from bottom side and think "damn that white belt is really mogging anon, I hope he enjoys that blue belt because if he doesn't shape up soon he'll be wearing it for the next decade".

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Being an athletic eternal blue belt is peak comfy tho. You never develop a real advanced skill set but you can mogg drop in brown belts from other schools because they don't know your game yet

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        BJJ practitioners are rarely athletic, albeit i will admit strictly no gi players tend to develop some decent explosiveness
        Gi players on the other hand are usually stiff stumps and would get KILLED by an average collegiate D3 wrestler

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Gi players
          Gi guys really ought to do judo to learn some urgency.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Everybody does nogi nowadays, gi grappling is a boring stallfest

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >average D3 wrestler
          A D3 wrestler if far from average, you big goof. Of the 250,000 or so boys wrestling in HS, only about 7k go on to wrestle in college.

          Even if there were a lot of people that were good enough in HS to be on ANY college squad but who didn't for various reasons, any NCAA wrestler is probably in the top 10% of wrestling ability with at least 4 years of HS wrestling and hundreds of competition rounds under his belt.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            An AVERAGE D3 wrestler, not an average wrestler in general, you ESL yuro chimp

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              An average D3 wrestler is far, far above average - even among wrestlers.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You're fucking retarded bro, he's saying the average D3 wrestler, not that they're average compared to other wrestlers.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                A sophomore D3 wrestler has at least 6 years of wrestling under his belt and more competitive success than the vast majority of them. In BJJ terms, he would probably be a very competitive brown belt.

                Put him against your typical, even athletic hobbyists, and it's a slaughter. A mediocre NCAA D3 wrestler is one of the most athletic people in the country, to say nothing of his technical wrestling skills which are better than the vast majority of wrestlers - which are themselves a cut above most pure BJJ players.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        sandbagging as a blue belt is this a thing? I have heard of psycho purple belt assassins and all my friends are past brown now but yeah that is funny shit teasing your post

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Some people are naturally athletic. Just because you can work higher belts by being fast and aggressive doesn't automatically mean you need a promotion. We have a purple belt who is a bodybuilder who can literally tool most anybody in our school, even to the point he has repeatedly injured people because he uses too much strength. But he's also lazy and almost never comes until class is halfway over and all the instructors secretly are annoyed at him.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Sounds like cope. Speed and timing are key parts of any martial art. If you get tapped routinely by someone because of physical attributes you aren't better just because you flow roll and use nice techniqe

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Not necessarily my point. Promotions both merit and potential based. Should a 40 year old hobbyist dad who goes 2d/w never reach blue belt because he'll always get dusted by the 20 year old college wrestler?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                This is why I like the Japanese judo system, where a black belt means that you just know the basics. A kid starts judo in middle school is probably going to be a black belt by the time he's in high school.

                It means you know the basics, are reasonably safe to train with, etc. It doesn't mean you're any good.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Depends on the school tbh. When I worked in Japan I trained at an mma gym where almost every blue belt was at least at purple belt level. Some schools have a strict instructor. It's also an ego thing cause he can say "my blue belts would beat your brown belts"

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Westside for Skinny Bastards was designed to slot in with practices for HS football players and wrestlers

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Honestly, you are kinda skinny and wimpy for your height- 170-180 would be a more natural weight for a 5'11 frame.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Best info on the topic: https://youtu.be/GkZYJ2h74xc

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >blue belt
    My guy it's great that you wanna get stronger and all, but don't you think it's a little early to start thinking your technique is such hot shit that big guys shouldn't be able to muscle through it ever?

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    OP don’t worry about it. Just accept that there are alpha gorillas out there (me) who can grab pathetic and weak beta pussies (you) by the wrist with my iron grip and rag doll you effortlessly and no amount of bjj training or strength training is going to stop that

    Just keep training and be content that you can handle yourself against the non-trained population which is most people

    When big dog daddy (me) walks into your gay little dojo and makes you my boytoy with ease, don’t dwell on it because it’s the natural order of things

    Just know that when shit hits the fan, which it will, your bjj isn’t going to stop iron wolves like me from claiming everything you own. If you put me in a rear naked choke while I’m raiding your supplies, and your girl, it will be the last thing you do.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You got beat by a real athlete compared to the neckbeard Larpers who work in IT you normally roll with. No biggie it happens.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I wish my high school had had a wrestling program. I was even in a wrestling fraternity somehow in college, but was too socially insecure to try

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Genuinely don't get the BJJ belt ego shit, nobody really cares in judo and nobody WANTS to sandbag. The idea of sandbagging is so far removed from the judo competitive mindset its absurd. Nobody cares you can beat up on other scrubs, where is that skill when its time to go up against the big boys competing for national team and olympic slots? Beating up on less experienced dudes doesn't do you much good after a certain point, and if you're the best guy in the gym you need to move on or go other places to get rounds in. BJJ and its community have such a weird petty fucking mindset that you just don't find in other competitive combat sports. You're either good or you aren't in wrestling, judo, boxing etc., nobody cares who you can beat unless you're beating everyone. I've done BJJ before but the community just repels me with how catty they are, thankfully bjj classes at mma gyms are a bit less egotistical since if you get uppity somebody can tell you to put some gloves on and give you the attitude check.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I think judo, even in the US and Europe where it's relatively harder to get a black belt than Japan or Korea - people want the black belt for validation, and it is somewhat surprising to see a brown or blue belt do well against one. However, it seems like only kids really care about the fruit salad belts.

      The only judo belts that have a real mystique imo are the candy-cane belts.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If he can bench 4-5 plate that means his punch is strong enough to knock a BJJ with both of his hands up, it means ur neck is thick enough to withstand ur pussy ass kick straight to the head, it means he can OHP u wrestling style..

    Thanks for the post OP, I just started powershitting and haven't been in a fight in years and one I hit 4 pl8 ima try going to a gym like urs and see what happens

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Your only chance is to bulk… you weren’t high level enough for that boss

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This is what OP saw and heard before he blacked out

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    do 3x3 or 3x5 progressive overload on all compound lifts and you will get much stronger

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Look up Westside Barbell training for fighters. They have info on their website for grapplers and strikers, it's all similar. They have articles, blog posts, and training logs. Their paid subscription stuff would have more info too but I haven't used it. It's 2-3 days with a focus on power development and sport specific conditioning. As for books, try their Special Strengths Development for All Sports book or Training for Warriors by Martin Rooney. You could also just do any basic Pavel kettlebell routine if that seems too complicated.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      this sounds good, i heard the powerlifter guy talking about westside barbell training to another guy at the gym
      thanks

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