What are you thoughts on this zoomer? he went from a dyel to having a decent physic in less than 3 years. He doesn't look huge though
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What are you thoughts on this zoomer? he went from a dyel to having a decent physic in less than 3 years. He doesn't look huge though
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99% of zoomers who look like that arent natty. deal with it. there was probably a short timeframe when zoomchud got jacked which makes it obvious: not natty
The zoomer made a reaction video to greg's video.
Not sure but leaning towards believing him, he's one of us and super autistic about lifting/dieting.
He also makes the best videos I've ever seen on basic training principles and form.
This. His training advice etc. Is very autistic but looking at his progression it just looks like he's optimised his diet and training to get the maximum returns. Physique isn't unattainable, but it's clear he's bused his ass to get it. Shame about the schnoz though
Yes I'm inclined to believe him too.
I believe him too.
He's not that big and he's always pumped on camera.
He has good muscle insertions and low bf so he looks bigger than he actually is
>Not sure but leaning towards believing him, he's one of us and super autistic about lifting/dieting.
do you think pro bodybuilders aren't autistic about dieting and lifting
greg is a fucking retard, the only suspect part of this guy is his shoulders, his biceps are pressed into his body making them look bigger, also there's a fuck ton of good information out there for anyone dedicated enough from the get-go to look great in a short amount of time. That being said he is great at using lighting, and posing but is probably a manlet
greg claims natty here btw
he says max looks bigger than him here btw
What a lying piece of shit man, what is wrong with him?
greg is super short. short people can look like that natty. seeth more lanket
back then you could also get literal (and very strong) steroids over the counter in supplement stores.
He probably lied about being natty back then when it was much more stigmatized and everybody got away with it. Then he didn't have the balls to retroactively admit to lying.
Greg is full of shit
21 years of lifting Vs 3 years of lifting.... but yeah you have to look at the motivation behind someone claiming natty if you think they aren't, and what motivation does Greg have to lie about his natty status from way back then? I can't think of any reason. Meanwhile you have this kid who is taking off on YouTube solely due to his transformation and physique, no-one would wanna watch him take his advice if he didn't have that physique, and he's constantly shilling myprotein products in every video, making fuck knows how much money from them. There's obviously a lot of motivation for him to take PEDs and claim natty, but of course even if he isn't he's gunna tell us he got this physique with creatine and protein (code MAXE 50% off) because people will also disregard the advice of a roider and his transformation will be much less impressive.
EGO, that midget is the embodiment of ego. He needs to tell everyone how good his genetics are so yeah he is inclined to lie about his natty status in that pic
So lexx little is natty and this zoomer is not? Greg is a clown the roids got into his tiny head
>greg doucette said
this board has to be the only board with people dumber than 4chan. imagine consuming fucking greg doucette daily
no wonder zoomers are just hopelessly fucking lost man..no dads end up listening to fucking greg doucette
*consuming greg doucette daily* Imagine making assumptions and calling people dumb, you are way dumber anon KEK
consuming greg doucette intentionally once is equivalent to consuming any amount of greg doucette on any interval
que? shitskin language?
im gonna go and watch some greg doucette goblin now. havent seen him for a year or two but you convinced me to watch him
>only board with people dumber than 4chan
tell me you shitskins without telling me you shitskin
>esl Hispanic calling anyone a shitskin
superior aryan intellect of r/pol on full display
The reason IST is so popular is it's the only hyper-public social media site that allows (mostly) free speech. Because of that IST essentially dictates the culture of the entire worlds young population.
IST hasn't been socially relevant since 2016 bro. living in the past
i mean you would watch some gay shit? you probably have broccoli for hair too, congrats on that as well
and you probably balding and watch some absolute idiot on youtube because he is the same ethnicity as you or something.
I just got banned because I said poc girls love white dick, they go crazy over it and 3rd world janny got offended.
>d-dude he's just s-super autistic
right, that's why his arms look like sandpaper and his delts are bigger than any natural man's delts have ever been on the planet earth in history.
zoomoid unhealthy body image obsession cope.
His arms are lean cuz he’s lean and his delts look big cuz he trained them and he’s lean plus knows how to pose
Big traps indicating roids is meme those body parts will be big if you train them
This is his physique raw without a pump, big but not unnatural
He's in between SARM cycles here.
He took the pic recently this is the proof
And this is him just days ago feb 3 to be exact. You don’t lose that much size in just 2 weeks off gear
Yes, you can lose lots of water weight/glycogen in 2 weeks.
>what is a pump and optimal lighting
I look light years different with and without a pump, and in the right lighting
I’m saying he is natty
Those are roidchud delts and traps there. Those always give it away.
top kek @ the newfags who claim this guy is natty
redpill me on the shit these guys run while claiming natty
Stop cycle and working out and you can lose a lot of size in 2 weeks. Im down 10kg now in 2 weeks. Pissed out 7kg of water first few days and most of that was inside my muscle.
Just look at his face ffs. The dude is low T. Do you think these sois can build a lean physique like this naturally?
>goes off cycle
yeah dude this is not evidence hes natty
its evidence hes on gear
Imagine believing this fucking zoomzoom is natty because he's an autistic retard like you
this. people so stupid but I guess they still kids.
what an autistic response anon are you ok?
He obviously uses SL5x5
His shoulders and traps are definitely sus. Nattie's don't really pop like that, especially not after just a few years lifting. You have to remember this guys success depends on his physique if he's trying to grow his YouTube, it doesn't mean his advice isn't solid, but just don't blindly believe his natty status like a fool.
ohh he is 5'5 I take it back he might be natty
>another ugly manlet zoomer who makes money off his physique
>coincidentally the most impressive parts on his physique are his traps, delts and upper chest
>natty for sure though
>he grown 6" unexpectedly
I take it back bitchass started using roids and hgh.
Meanwhile, manlet greg thinks Ronnie coleman was natty while already competing, don't listen to that midge
ronnie coleman had miostatin deficiency.
>Meanwhile, manlet greg thinks Ronnie coleman was natty while already competing, don't listen to that midge
Ronnie was natural in 1992, which was the year of his first Mr Olympia in which he placed dead last. He gained more than 70lbs of lean hard muscle tissue over the following several years after starting steroids post 1992 in order to win the coveted Mr Olympia for the first time in 1998 and dominate like no other before him, winning 8 consecutive Mr Olympia titles from 1998 to 2005.
He states here in this interview in 1992 before the 1992 Mr Olympia that he was natural:
In 1991 he had similar FFMI to the top pre-steroid era bodybuilders (see pic related). Except that Ronnie had better genetics, muscle shape, insertions, small joints, muscle separation, small waist etc. which made him look more impressive at similar sizes. And overall better genetics for gaining muscle naturally, probably one of the best ever known. His top 99.999% genetic ability to gain muscle naturally is what allowed him to be superior to every other pro bodybuilder once he started taking the same drugs they did after he competed natural at the 1992 Mr Olympia. He surpassed them all easily within the space of 5 years, and dominated the Mr Olympia for 8 years to become the best bodybuilder in the history of mankind.
This is freak outlier genetics. Once in a lifetime. Most other bodybuilders once they reach the Olympia stage are already maxed out and don't really change all that much from year to year. Whereas Ronnie piled on at least 70 more pounds of lean tissue AFTER his first Olympia in 1992 where he competed naturally. This is unheard of at the Olympia level, and indicated subsequent commencement of muscle building steroids and growth hormones after the 1992 Mr Olympia in which he was a natural athlete.
Just a reminder that Ronnie got to the Mr Olympia stage in 1992 naturally. Cope and seethe everybody.
If you think hes natural in the image you posted you are as delusional as middle school gym boys watching tiktok for inspiration
No, Ronnie was bigger, visually he looks bigger plus those guys never had their body fat estimated or had their stats confirmed because the study took place in the 1980s and was based on word of mouth and estimation. Eifferman was 5’7 and 195 at his heaviest for example for him to be 27.7 ffmi he would need to by 9.5% bodyfat even at his leanest he was more like 12% not 9%
Ronnie had much better genetics (BBC genetics). Hardly anyone did bodybuilding in the 1940s, it was considered gay. The talent pool was tiny then. And they didn't know how to eat or train optimally.
i love ronnie but the fucker lies about everything
he claimed that he competed at 0.3% bodyfat and on off season bulks he would only go up to 3% bodyfat
>he claimed that he competed at 0.3% bodyfat and on off season bulks he would only go up to 3% bodyfat
That was based on body fat caliper readings. They are inaccurate at really low bodyfat levels. Those are the numbers that the algorithm spat out. Ronnie said those numbers because those were the only numbers he had from actual body fat tests using calipers.
or maybe he was making shit up to sound cool?
i dont think calipers ever give measurements of less than 1%
Well, he was high on oxycodone (from back pain due to surgeries) when he said it.
>Veins popping out of his deltoids.
Idk what do you think?
guess im roiding then
He’s natty, Doucette is just a demoralization roidchud
none of the zoomer influencers are natty
it's moggy mog world out there and they're doing everything to stay on top/relevant
I think he's natty for sure
Even having to ask beyond proves that you are retarded and have severe body dysphoria
Those are the shoulders of a roidchud
You don't have to be huge to be on roids. People take roids to make the entire process easier and enable mass with a lower body fat in the same way this roidchud is. He simply just hasn't bloatmaxed. He only took roids to make being ripped and gaining size in specific areas easy. Second, you don't have to go on harsh cycles to be on roids. Even a small amount of roids for gains makes you a roidchud. Plus those aren't natty traps or shoulders. Also Greg is a roidchud and should be ignored for that.
EVERY SINGLE INSTAGRAM ZOOMER IS ON SARMS. EVERY SINGLE ONE.
Never compare yourself to fucking frauds. Zoomers don't even believe SARMs make you not natty anymore. They just consider them supplements.
Greg was a fraud when he was a kid but at least he has the potential excuse of tainted supplements since lots of shit was spiked back then.
He's too big for that bodyfat %.
Defo not natty.
You can’t outlift an Italian droopy face
He doesn't have the face structure of someone who is naturally big. The face doesn't match the body. Like if you didn't know who steve reeves was, you can tell just by his face that he is probably muscular, but this guys face looks like it belongs on a skinny dweeb. He's got that phenotype, the skull and face usually reflects the body, the body is an extension of the head genetically.
Idk who the guy in OP is but this is a BS claim. There's a reason why the "jacked nerd" stereotype is a thing, your face doesn't change drastically from lifting unless bulking/cutting heavy. Natural Hypertrophy is a pretty good example
Nah he's right. Most gymcels look shit because they have too much mass or definition for their skeletal structure due to roids, which pushes them into uncanny valley regions. If you're naturally skinny, bite the bullet and go for ottermode. Gaining much mass will just look shit, no matter what the fags and incels on IST want you to think.
I have rewatched an NH video and you guys are right, thanks
Not Him but it’s absolutely true. Natural hypertrophy does not have a nerdy face he just wears glasses. Not the same thing. His jaw is actually pretty big and his cheekbones are prominent
NH has a big jaw and shit he just wears glasses
The funny thing is I have a shitty physique basically but because I have a good face and some confidence I can pull girls he'll never touch in his life hehe
Maybe it's demoralization but for me sixpack = juicer.
Look at his face. Nobody with a face like that has ever been buff in history pre steroids
this face argument is retarded and a pseudoblackpill, WAGMi means WAGMI but yeah this guy is clearly roiding
90% of people who roid don’t look like they even roid, you would never know
100% of people who look like they roid are on roids, you’re a naive dumb boomer if you think otherwise
He's roided to the gills and whoever says otherwise is either delusional or a fake nattural roidchud
>just put in the work and eat clean
this whole board is so fucking retarded. Its painfully obvious to anyone who's lifted for a few years and dabbled with steroids whos on gear and whos not. of course this kid isnt natty
Prohormones are classified as supplements in some web stores thus he is natty
>a decent physic
have a nice day tryhard