Has anyone fully swapped out bb bench from their routine?

Has anyone fully swapped out bb bench from their routine? With dumbbells I feel my chest a lot more and I don't have any discomfort in my shoulders.

Actually thinking about why I do barbell bench my conclusion is that its just an ego thing. I want a big bench cause a big bench is impressive. I don't bench because it's the optimal exercise for muscle growth. There are better exercises for targeting the chest, triceps and shoulders.

Does this make sense or am I just being a pussy?

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    you're not wrong but also there is nothing wrong with wanting a big bench for its own sake

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    bb bench fucks my left forearm for some reason so I do it sparingly, mainly just to test 1rm

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I have shoulder injury so i cant bench heavy, can i still build chest fine?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You need to do movements targeting your chest where the resistance is sufficient for you to be within 1-2 reps of failure while staying in the ~8-20 rep range

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Definitely being a pussy.
    No pain no gain.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yes powerlifting is ego lifting. Lifting big weights to feel more manly. Most powerlifting gurus have attitude of high schooler.

    "The problem with many hypertrophy-based programs is that they leave out the strength component. You might get bigger as a result of the program, but if you don't get any stronger you're still a chump in my book.

    That's right, I don't care how big you are, if you aren't strong you're a sham. Having big muscles and no strength is the training equivalent of wearing a strap-on. All show and no go. End of story."

    Jim Wendler

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      If you are doing hypertrophy work and not doing say power cleans for strength at least, you are missing out.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      is there really any major difference between size and strength. I don't get how you could increase size with little change in strength. Even if you train in high reps you're still gonna need to increase weight

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Raw strength (like 1-3 RM) has a heavy neurological component. Your muscle fibers need to learn how to work in perfect concert to move the weight, and your body as a whole needs to get comfortable handling weight that will snap it in a blink if something goes wrong. Thats why you lose maximum strength so quickly when you stop training for it even though your muscles stay the same size or even get bigger (if you switch to hypertrophy training). Its also why most higher level lifters will alternate strength and hypertrophy blocks. They build new muscle in the hypertrophy phase, then learn how to use it properly in the strength phase. Rinse and repeat to keep getting bigger and stronger.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Jim is so cringe worthy

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      That quote from Jim Wendler is part of his article on 5/3/1 bodybuilding, and it's good because he makes clear his bias towards strength in the article. At the same time, if you look at what he lays out, it's something that Ronnie Coleman or Branch Warren wouldn't blink at, it's right out of Metroflex Gym. Start with a big compound then fill in the gaps with isolation assistance work in bodybuilding set/rep format. And he does not insist on powerlifting being the Law, he actually writes regularly about how he doesn't even do barbell benches, squats, or deadlifts anymore.

      Also, to answer OP's question YES. I am 46 and my shoulder doesn't tolerate bb bench. Last night's chest training was

      1. Incline DB Bench 5 x 12
      2. Flat DB Bench 5 x 12
      3. Incline Fly 5 x 12
      4. Dips 5 x 10

      It can be done fruitfully as long as you have a rationale for why your means match your ends.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >You might get bigger as a result of the program, but if you don't get any stronger
      If you get bigger you'll be stronger. You may be lacking a little bit of nerve efficiency and technique, but that's only a big deal at a pl meet. On the other hand you can get your lifts up pretty high, especially relative to your body weight, without ever getting bigger, and it will only be at a pl meet that you could convince anyone that you're strong.
      Not that I don't like powerlifting but if you take a step back and really look at it for what it is apart from who's got the sluttiest back arch, it doesn't look any different from bodybuilding. Just dudes progressing their lifts and growing for it.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ive been doing Machine Chest Press and getting quicker gains than when i did BB Bench. Just feel it in my chest more.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I feel it more but it's weaponized aids for my shoulders. Cant do it without pinching no matter what.

      I used to clean them into a front rack before sitting down. Never understood the kick them up thing.

      But my gyms dumbbells max out at 100s, so I'm doing machine chest press like [...] now.

      im struggling to visualize a front rack with dumbbells, could you explain it more? Because I really struggle with keeping my shoulders locked when I do the kick up thing and its impossible to get properly tight once you're laying down on the bench

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Like so.
        Sit down with them still racked, then as you lay back, rotate and extend your arms to the top position. Practice it with light weights a few times.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      What kind of chest machine are you talking about? My gym has a lot of different ones. Plate loaded?

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    dumbbells are probably better but I fucking hate the whole process of picking up the dumbbells and getting into the starting position. Bench press is so much easier to start

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I used to clean them into a front rack before sitting down. Never understood the kick them up thing.

      But my gyms dumbbells max out at 100s, so I'm doing machine chest press like

      Ive been doing Machine Chest Press and getting quicker gains than when i did BB Bench. Just feel it in my chest more.

      now.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >grab 50lb dbs
      >do a set
      >grab 60lb dbs
      >do a set
      >grab 70lb dbs
      >do a set
      >et cetera
      And you either have to wipe them off every time or seem like you don’t wipe down your weights if you do it all at the end

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    DB chest flies and bench press for a killer combo workout. Thank me later once you get a big butt chest, pair that with dips and its solid.

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nothing wrong with doing both, but for super heavy sets (1-3 reps) stick to bb. I've seen people try to max on dumbbells and go horribly wrong when they don't complete the rep

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    i just feel safer with dumbbells since i do it alone in my room. less of a chance paramedics find me dead with crushed chest cavity and my desktop signed in, browsing history still open for everyone to see

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I stopped doing squats and bench for similar reasons. I just hate doing barbell squats and they are 100% not required if you aren't into powerlifting. You can target all those muscles better with other movements. I only care about having a big deadlift as far as strength goals go so I get a lot of posterior chain work that way so it's doubly unneeded.

    Stopped benching for similar reasons. If your goal is to get a big bench all of the sudden the lift becomes insane complicated with a million q's. Break the bar apart to activate the lats, tuck the elbows, keep constant leg drive, 360 degree bracing etc etc. I enjoy that sort of technical shit with deads but with bench it blows.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm betting money you're an asslet

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I do sumo deads as my primary deadlift accessory work so you'd lose money

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      post body, tiny.

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >disappointed in my arms
    >decide to switch to close grip bench
    >triggers the fuck out of my shoulder
    can't do it bros.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Your grip is either too close or you're touching the bar too high up on your torso

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        my shoulder is just a bitch from water polo. I already have to do the bulldog grip on regular bench and i can't really do it with close grip. Did one set and went oh no no no no no.

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The dumbbells at my shitty gym only goes up to 36 kg so I had to switch back to BB. Getting the dumbbells in position is also pretty awkward and I feel like I could easily injure myself getting in position with my max weight.
    If I worked out in a gym with heavier dumbbells and a gym buddy to help me get in position I'd go back to dumbbells though

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    i haven't done bb bench in a long time
    only db and i'm still making gains, better chest than most
    4x mr olympia himself jay cutler does the same

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >I feel my chest a lot more and I don't have any discomfort in my shoulders
    Then do db flat and db incline for 8 months to build up strength. This hurts your shoulders because of poor technique, and will have to be corrected eventually.
    >Actually thinking about why I do barbell bench my conclusion is that its just an ego thing.
    It allows you to move more weight because it's stabilized across a bar, and you will need to switch back to it once the dbs get heavy enough to tear your shoulders.
    >am I just being a pussy?
    Freudian slip

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah, after I fucked my rotator cuff I can only do hammer strength presses.

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You're right. Nothing says you have to do Barbell bench unless your goals are powerlifting related. Otherwise, do whatever hits your muscles best with the least joint stress. Make sure to progressively overload still of course

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Has anyone fully swapped out bb bench from their routine?
    Yeah, a lot of people who focus on intensity and splits instead of periodization and compounds.
    >am I just being a pussy?
    For wanting to do more lifts and fuck your shit up harder?

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