hCG Instead of Steroids

This stuff maximizes your testosterone production, right? Couldn't you get some gains off of just takin hCG? It might not be crazy, like putting on several times as much muscle with actual roiding, but a 20% increase would still be nice.

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Low dose test of 250 to 300 mg could also work, but then you shut off your testicles. I'm a young guy. I'll turn 24 in a couple weeks, and I don't plan on taking anything until many months in the future, if not years in the future, but I just really want to look good soon.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    just pin test and take orals you absolute scared pussy

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah, but it will still suppress your HPTA, and the increase in gains will hardly even be noticeable. Also somebody correct me if i'm wrong but I believe it raises estrogen significantly and you will likely still have to deal with high estro sides like gyno etc.
    Basically all the negatives of gear with a tiny fraction of the benefit. Only reasons I can think of to use it is to restore fertility if you're already shutdown and to keep your balls working during a cycle

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You’re basically spot on. Nice job.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      pretty much this
      you get the downsides of a cycle including dependence on LH mimetic to keep your HPTA running and damn near frick all for gains compared to even a cruise dose

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    just take creatine and stay natty, sane people hate roidtrannies.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Cope, you noodle-armed homosexual.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I might just end up taking a months-long cycle of 300 mg of test in the future. You get 2/3rds the gains of 600 mg of test with way less of the sides, and with my genes, I would look pretty damn decent, which is my goal. I want to look buff enough to impress trans girls and femboys.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        ok do it you pussy, this isn't your blog
        make sure you read up on the theory, and understand the consequences beforehand. it's going to be bittersweet i can guarantee you it, but a learning experience either way.
        once you are ready to pull the trigger on it, follow a strict plan and commit fully to it.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >this isn't your blog
          It is.
          300 mg seems to be the sweet spot. 200 mg is basically just a small boost that shuts off your testes, and 400 is when the sides become problematic. Plaque buildup is my greatest fear, but 300 mg shouldn't really make that an issue. I've thought about it, and if we had our testicles removed, we would live longer. Simply having testosterone present in the blood at the levels men have them is already inherently unhealthy, even if considered normal. One or two months-long cycles of 300 mg would make a world of a difference and basically get me pretty close to my natural limit. The second cycle would likely be able to do this. With muscle memory being a thing, if I ever lost any muscle, I could quickly gain it back and become a jacked natty-looking guy. I could see myself getting up to a 500 pound bench and 700 pound deadlift just with 300 mg, but to be on the safe side, I really should remain natural for quite a while. I could try to hit 405 on the bench and 585 on deadlift before I go on gear, and then I could really realistically get to a 500 pound bench and 700 pound deadlift on the stuff, but if 300 mg is safe enough, then I wouldn't have to wait this long. The most I've done naturally was 355 bench, 425 squat (no belt), and 495 deadlift (no belt), but I was around 350 at this time, being morbidly obese. I weigh 255 now, and since beginning working out in January after two years of not lifting, I can see that muscle memory is very much a real thing.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >test
        >any gains in 4 weeks
        lol. Even if you did 20 weeks of 300mg see what happens when you come off lil bro...

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Even with hCG and proper PCT? Although the longer you're on it, the more difficult it will be for your testes to start working again, the higher the dosage, the more difficult it will be for your testes to start working again, too.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Test e will take like 7 weeks to even do anything and pct/hcg isn't some magic that 'brings back' your natural test it only mimics it while your body is supposed to be doing it itself. Sometimes that takes months, depends on the person

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              What about sustanon? What if I inject 600 mg my first week?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                4 weeks is still nothing, even if you took test prop. Taking gear won't change your life bro

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                There were literally two studies done that show that 300 mg will give you around 2/3rds of the gains of 600 mg. Does that 1/3rd really matter that much?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >of the gains
                which isn't much and you'll lose most of it? Do a real cycle and find out or don't bother. You'll do a cycle now and then you'll hit a progress wall again in the future anyway

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Higher doses result in more suppression. Maybe a two-month cycle of 300 mg with hCG throughout and clomid? It shouldn't be that bad. Literally 2/3rds the gains of 600 mg with probably none of the permanent negative health effects.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    hcg will only give you peak natty range test, which isn't enough to make gains. variations within the natural range dont mean much. its all down to androgen receptor genetics there.

    if you try taking higher doses of hcg, it will just ramp up testicular aromatase and give you (very) high estrogen. ai's dont tend to be as effective for centrally produced estrogen as well.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >ai's dont tend to be as effective for centrally produced estrogen as well.
      Are you talking about the estrogen from the adrenal glands? Nobody's trying to shut down the estrogen from the adrenal glands.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Hcg is post cycle or if you cruise a way to make sure your boys keep working by taking it alongside test and ai. It was also Ozempic before ozempic. Doctors were prescribing it like candy in high doses to the point the FDA stepped in a re-scheduled it. It isn’t impossible to get but there are only a handful of pharmacies allowed to fulfill it now which is why Ozempic is no longer being used for the beetus exclusively.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >no (you) for any of you

    It's funny listening to natties talk about this.

    >200mg is a supraphysiological dose that will out you around 1500 total t
    >4 week cycle won't do anything it takes that long dor test e to saturate
    >600mg won't cause sides unless you are fat or an extremely heavy aromitizer
    >test isn't magic. If you can't make yourself and lean and muscular without it, you won't get gains with it
    >test doesn't raise ldl

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