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>he does cardio
Cardio is for stamina.
See how far that gets you outside of the squat rack, fatty.
just ripped a bowl and ran 7 miles for the fuck of it because the weather was nice. tremble, fatties.
mega-estrogenic gay LMAO
you will look 45 at 30
you will look like an overstuffed bag of boneless chicken thighs for your entire life
>look like a fit 45 year old man at 30
>look like a fat baby at 45
>not knowing there's a third option
cardio is for fags
Its for you
Absolutely based. I ate mushrooms yesterday and went on a 10 mile bike ride. This morning I did snatches and backsquats. Keep being based, you mega Chad
I shan't never stop swimming, if I had to keep only one physical activity (when growing old for example) I'd drop lifting without the blink of an eye.
>Uses double negatives
This is your brain on an over elevated heart rate
Who would take any advice from Mike O'Hearn?
The man is a walking sack of Bullshit.
Having a good cardio base helps with lifting massively. I've starter playing rugby league this summer and the fitness improvement over playing union is huge, I set a rep pr with 14 reps at 190kg deadlift yesterday. I was blowing out my arse obviously but I had no burning feeling in my chest and recovered in a few minutes.
Previously those sorts of high rep PRs would leave me feeling like I was dying for 5-10 mins
>I was blowing out my arse obviously
Bro just get a plug
so i watched this video
this motherfucker said a whole bunch of nothing
but i have to admit him shitting on the maingaining shit was based
mike o hearn is pretty alright for a natty bodybuilder
why would he be shitting on maingaining? he has literally had six pack abs for 40 years straight. is he shitting on himself?
I do actually, it helps me not being gassed after a 100m run.
Let's face it, you're not avoiding cardio because you're genuinely worried it's going to 'hurt' your gains, you're avoiding cardio because it's a fucking ballache and you don't have the willpower to make yourself do it.
Doesn't have to be much. I run three 5ks a week. That's like 75 mins of cardio total each week. It's not much but it makes a big difference.
You can't just fucking sitting around lifting weights taking 3 min rests on your work sets and expect to look good.
kek, if you'd talk about the stamina and endurance gains that actually is the reason to do it at all, at least for me, not to mention the new kind of stimulus and something new to master, sure, cardio is a must for anyone who wants to be fit, truly fit, not just look fit.
but tryin to sell cardio as a must to look good... nah man, bullshit. it's absolutely not required, maybe for reaching drastic bf%s, but thats just something Ive heard yet to try it myself.
Sorry sir but this is IST. I am gonna ask you to stop posting correct lifting advise
true, king, where was my mind when I posted it.
This is a fitness board. Not a fashion and modelling board. Being healthy>looking good.
Is there anyone as unlikable and obnoxious as Mike O'Hearn? I doubt it.
Unlikeable and obnoxious people are unironically some of the most based people I ever interact with
You have the mind of a 14-year-old.
Of course you like them. You have the exact same shitty, insufferable personality that they have and zero self-awareness.
>people with poor charisma are bad
>people who are grating and insufferable are wrong
Imagine saying this on IST.
What? Me doing cardio makes lazy retards like OP seethe? Seems like i will have to add another 15km to my after workout bicycle session
Cardio is for fags, and it shows in the
>muh rooning, muh cycling
It's just a bunch of dyel fags.
>nobody posted body
Cardiochuds don't lift.
google runner's face
Post body ( you won't)
>is vocally against steroids
>while being a shredded beast at 50 years old
opinion complete disregarded
do conditioning instead of straight cardio, instead of jogging, do sprints, or do a circuit of bodyweight stuff like push ups and squats and burpees.
Then do LISS cardio for 45+ minutes for mitochondrial and lactate gains that will directly transfer to performance gains while lifting.
Do higher rep lower weight exercises to failure.
Straight cardio like what most people do (50% of the US population does it while also 50% are obese) is what's not good as you're conditioning your body to be efficient with the calories you put into it, which means a reduction in metabolism over time. You need to make your body inefficient with calories and efficient with systems that are designed to attenuate fatigue so that you can push yourself harder and become more metabolically inefficient.
>Straight cardio like what most people do (50% of the US population does it while also 50% are obese) is what's not good as you're conditioning your body to be efficient with the calories you put into it, which means a reduction in metabolism over time. You need to make your body inefficient with calories and efficient with systems that are designed to attenuate fatigue so that you can push yourself harder and become more metabolically inefficient.
What fucking shit are you talking? These metabolism changes are minuscule and do matter. What is even "straight cardio" ?
It's quite obvious if you read my post contextually, since I bring up high intensity conditioning and low intensity steady state cardio. You could discern from these that by straight cardio I mean moderate intensity cardio.
High intensity training has the most calorie burn while also being incredibly anaerobic. The goal here is to provoke a metabolic adaptation to the high stress you put on the body while also retaining some aerobic fitness as your body will demand both glucose and oxygen in this style of training.
As for the lower intensity stuff, most athletes spend most of their training in this state to produce adaptations in their mitochondria and lactate transport proteins.
Zone 2 training and Zone 4-5 training are seen as the most beneficial. The moderate intensity training such as with 'straight cardio' does not produce worthwhile adaptations. You will improve your cardio, but at the expense of other energy systems / metabolism over time.
I am sorry brainlets like me can't in to context as good.
>You could discern from these that by straight cardio I mean moderate intensity cardio.
Yeah if i had a brain. Sorry.
>The goal here is to provoke a metabolic adaptation to the high stress you put on the body while also retaining some aerobic fitness as your body will demand both glucose and oxygen in this style of training.
Okay but why?
So when you say "moderate intensity cardio" that to me is like going on a light moderate run,
So you say that people should avoid doing "Straight cardio" which is moderate intensity cardio? But then you say that people should train in Zone 2, which is
2 Heart Rate Zone 2:
Still aerobic, and usually the lowest intensity zone used in training.
A steady jog at a pace that you can still hold a conversation.
Can be between 60-70% of your max heart rate, but we’ll discuss how to calculate your zone 2 more accurately later using the MAF Method.
Sounds pretty fucking much like "straight cardio" to me you fucking retard
no, 60-70% of your heartrate can be achieved through a brisk walk. That is way too intense for zone 2 training.
It's generally not recommended to do anything but stationary bike for zone 2 because of how easy it is to get your heart rate above the recommended value. If you're walking / jogging / biking outside, the variance in elevation can put your heartrate up or take it too far down.
Straight cardio in context of what im talking about is zone 3 cardio, not too intense, but not too easy either. While this may seem the best of both worlds, it's actually the worst. Your lactate production is too high so you can't sustain it for the recommended time of at least 45 mins but ideally an hour and if you train at this intensity for that long, you will start to stimulate adaptations that are not conducive to muscle gain. You keep your cardio short and intense so that you maximize anaerobic and glucose utilization while also tiring your cardio system, or you stay very mild and reap the long term benefits of mitochondrial and lactate utilization.
>no, 60-70% of your heartrate can be achieved through a brisk walk. That is way too intense for zone 2 training.
While it can, for most people its NOT. And most athletes DO NOT TRAIN BY GOING ON BRISKS WALKS
"“Train slow to run fast”. The training regimens of some of our greatest athletes can teach us a lot. The science behind Zone 2 training illuminates why this is true. Zone 2 or low HR training is also one of the best tools we have to achieve metabolic health and longevity. Low, zone 2 heart rate cycling, swimming, rowing, and running are also key to improving performance and minimizing the risk of developing stress-related injuries and overtraining."
FROM YOUR LINK https://www.howardluksmd.com/zone-2-hr-training-live-longer-less-injury/
>What is Zone 2 Running?
>Simply put, zone 2 running is an “easy” run.
You can talk during the run, you can breathe through your nose during the run. It is a pace that is slow enough to allow you to stay in your Zone 2 heart rate target zone. If you live in a hilly area, you may find that you need to walk those hills at first to maintain your heart rate in Zone 2. Some very well trained runners need to run pretty hard to stay in zone 2. For the rest of us, we need to slow down to stay in zone 2, but as your aerobic base becomes stronger, you will be able to run faster and longer while staying in Zone 2.
lol you idiot
>While it can, for most people its NOT. And most athletes DO NOT TRAIN BY GOING ON BRISKS WALKS
Athletes are not most people. Athletes generally have lower heart rates and better mitochondrial and lactate efficiency than regular people and thus need a little bit more in regards to achieving zone 2.
I really don't know what you're trying to say since you've answered this in the second part of your post. Are you just being painfully autistic or what? Do you not know that different people have different training levels and different physiological responses to training?
I really don't know what lead you to be wrong and contradicting your self in your posts like you just did and then call someone else a retard when you are clearly the fucking retard here.
when did I contradict myself?
NTA but you're a gay for making generalised comments that apply to untrained individuals on a ISTNess board and acting like you're an authority.
but the comments weren't generalized to untrained people.
It's still LISS and high intensity exercise, the difference is just what it takes to achieve that for each individual person. Most people here are untrained or gymcels, they don't really do cardio, so even specific to this board, the advice is sound.
>instead of jogging, do sprints,
>Then do LISS cardio
So, Instead of jogging, I should... Jog?
just do at least 10k steps in a day with any form of cardio.
Didn't have any work in the morning so i went to forest to gather some mushrooms walked there three hours and met this little guy. As cardio i cycle 3 days a week for an hour and 40 minutes. It's fun.
Only good post ITT.
dude cardio is for fags bro! huh thats weird my chest kinda hurts toda- ACK!
To all the idiots ITT: it's clickbait and he's doing cardio in that vid.
I'm still gonna do cardio
Every exercise is cardio my man. Every exercise pumps blood unless you are a fat bitch.
He's literally running on an elliptical in that thumbnail you bunch of dumb apes. It's literally a video about how frustrating he finds it when people attribute a "don't do cardio ever" opinion to him when he never fucking said that. He advocates for using cardio in cycles instead of 52 weeks a year - not avoiding it completely.
cardio is such a fucking useless scam. I use the elyptical machine for 25 mins and burn barely 200 calories according to it. A single burger has around 800 calories, i would have to use it 4 days just to burn off a single burger, fucking SCAM
>want to get big, strong muscles
>spend 50% of your time doing women hobbies, training the exact opposite thing from strength and bodybuilding training
And for what? Heart health? If your heart isn't beating during a workout you're training like a pussy. Simple as that.
>gets tired really quick
>girls asks whats wrong
been there before. fuck off with this advice.
I don’t understand why people who make their living in fitness destroy their credibility with such idiotic advice
people that do cardio do not buy pre workout nor do they buy protein shakes or other supplements as there is no point.
I run 4 days a week and I buy protein shakes and creatine
Watch the video.
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