Help me fix my heart health

What is the healthiest diet for heart health?

Assuming I don’t care about muscle and other things.

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Taurine

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Monster energy drinks have taurine.
      When I drink monster energy drinks I can feel my heart acting weird.
      When I drink coffee, I don't really experience any unpleasant sideeffects in my heart.
      Why are monster energy drinks deadlier? Is it the dose?

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Low fat vegan diet is the only diet clinically shown to reverse heart disease

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Huh. The most expensive, lowest fat, testosterone sapping diet is the one that reverses heart disease? I wonder who funded this research?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        It's not expensive. But also nut surprising that low test low fat is good for heart health. There is a tradeoff between test and heart health.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          90% of vegans spend exorbitant amounts of money on meme foods - maybe 10% do it right and prepare whole foods, but they still pay out the ass to do so. Beyond this they eat processed grains and sugars to meet caloric needs, both of which are inflammatory.
          I can find research that postulates that low fat diets increase risk of cardiovascular disease.
          My thought is that if you don't get enough fat in your diet, your body needs to store it; eventually storing it on the heart.
          The real enemies of the heart is processed sugars and not enough fat.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Almost as if moderation and variety of minimally processed foods are the hallmarks of a good diet.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Weird how they live almost a decade longer and have higher test

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >90% of vegans spend exorbitant amounts of money on meme foods
            Citation needed
            >but they still pay out the ass to do so
            Beans, rice, potatos, and veggies are not expensive
            >Beyond this they eat processed grains and sugars to meet caloric needs, both of which are inflammatory.
            Where does it say you must eat that on a vegan diet?
            >I can find research that postulates that low fat diets increase risk of cardiovascular disease.
            You can eat a high fat vegan diet. Avacados, coconuts, peanuts and seeds.
            >The real enemies of the heart is processed sugars and not enough fat.
            Nice head cannon

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >muh processed sugars
            guarantee this is based on Last Men sedentary people who sit on their ass 16 hours a day. Sugar is good for you if you actually move your body. ketards suck my dick

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >processed grains
            Bread is good for you amerifat, you have to let it go

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Low test is linked to heart problems, that's why t is prescribed to older patients

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      not true imo, despite it's "clinically shown" status. i see no resounding proof that things like dietary fats/lard/meat result in such substances accumulating in the arteries/heart. anecdotally, i didn't commit to such a diet and have had improvements. doesn't mean my experience will be the same experience for everyone, though.

      https://i.imgur.com/w0GYr6I.jpg

      What is the healthiest diet for heart health?

      Assuming I don’t care about muscle and other things.

      you want to focus on your arterial health. this can mean many things depending on your current state (i encourage you to dyor regarding this), but for me it meant reducing arterial stiffness by not smoking, eating foods high in nitric oxides at least once per day, and starting out my runs at a slower pace before getting to my higher sustained paces. the last one in particular had a strong effect on chest pains (angina) i felt while starting cardio - i wasn't giving my arteries enough time to dilate properly before making them work so hard. i believe rolling 48 hour fasts help too, i tend to do it once every two weeks or so. during the refueling/refeeding meal in between the fasts, i try to eat low carb in order to maximize the benefits insulin sensitivity.

      from what i understand regarding this, arterial stiffness leads to plaque buildup and eventual arterial stenosis that deprives the cardiomyocyte (heart cells) of oxygen. so you want to keep them from getting stiff while younger so you don't have to deal with calcified arteries when you're older. speaking of calcium, you may find this study interesting:

      https://heart.bmj.com/content/108/12/964
      "Supplemental calcium with or without vitamin D is associated with lower survival and greater AVR in elderly patients with mild-moderate AS."
      AVR=aortic valve replacement, AS = arterial stenosis

      pls correct me on anything i've said if you think it's wrong

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        > i see no resounding proof that things like dietary fats/lard/meat result in such substances accumulating in the arteries/heart.
        Where do you think the contents of atherosclerotic plaques come from?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          erythrocyte membranes which have nothing to do with what you eat

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Then why do those with raised serum cholesterol have higher incidences of heart disease and sudden cardiac death?

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              It's just a coincidence

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                > Higher cholesterol in bloodstream
                > Higher rates of atherosclerotic plaques that are literally made of cholesterol
                > Just a coincidence

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah it's a coincidence. Cholesterol is a myth. https://www.carnivorerx.com/how-does-the-carnivore-diet-affect-cholesterol/

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                > cholesterol is a myth
                > posts largely uncited opinion piece that talks about cholesterol being a thing
                kek

                This is what makes keto/carnivores ridiculous, the insistence that the meme diet is perfect and that there aren’t any downsides and the subsequent nutritional conspiracy theories. ffs the cholesterol from carnivore can be easily stopped from causing harm by taking a statin. You literally get to have your meat cake and eat it. It’s akin to a vegan pretending b12 deficiency doesn’t exist instead of taking the damn supplement and carrying on with their diet.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          oxidized LDL (caused by PUFAs)

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            "Plaque is made up of deposits of fatty substances, cholesterol, cellular waste products, calcium, and fibrin"

            I believe repeated stress causes the buildup to occur, it's like a layer of sediment that is healed over (and over and over). That's why many people nowadays focus on lowering inflammation when possible by avoiding foods that cause it. It's also caused/accelerated by various stuff that gets into your blood that shouldn't really be there, like particles from smoke/vape juices/alcohol/who knows what else.

            Anywho, I think that a low fat vegan diet may help in such cases because there is just less in the blood to end up getting lodged in place since you are basically fasting anyway. So more suitable as a last measure. I personally wouldn't recommend anyone try to adapt to a lifestyle of being fasted/vegan as often as possible unless you're trying to get rid of cancer, but I'm not a doctor either.

            Inflammation/oxidation is caused by a host of uncontrollable variables, including;
            > General aging
            > Emotional stress
            > Illness
            > Injury

            A true heart healthy diet is one that contains minimal constitutes of arteriosclerosis (cholesterol and saturated fat) and is anti-inflammatory in nature (lots of plants)

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Lies. A healthy heart is made of meat.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >A true heart healthy diet is one that contains minimal constitutes of arteriosclerosis (cholesterol and saturated fat) and is anti-inflammatory in nature (lots of plants)

              I'm not so sure of that conclusion, largely because many plants are in fact inflammatory. Furthermore, just because there's an abundance of chloesterol/saturated fat in your diet/blood doesn't mean that it is the reason plaque consisting of general cellular debree is accumulating. I totally do believe that some nutrients from certain types of plants could help reverse damage or treat cell walls that are becoming stiff.

              >"Plaque is made up of deposits of fatty substances, cholesterol, cellular waste products, calcium, and fibrin"
              calcium is the leading cause of all artery plaque.
              it binds both to itself abundantly and just about anything else binds to calcium also.
              which is why kidney stones form.
              take k2 calcium diminishes in blood and the body can start healing the plaque issue.

              I don't feel comfortable commenting much on just how much calcemic levels effect the heart because I don't even understand the role of everything in my pic rel (aside from broadly knowing of the general exchange of intracellular magnesium, calcium, sodium, and potassium). I do recall reading, however, that you should not take calcium supplements unless specifically instructed to by a cardiologist/doctor because of what you said. I've also read that forms of vitamin K (mk7) in combination with D + a long-chain fat-rich diet can potentially help create an environment that supports decalcification.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Your picture is of the mechanism and physiology of cardiac muscle cells polarising/depolarising and contracting due to electrolyte exchange not the general accumulation and hardening (calcification) of fats in the coronary arteries.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          "Plaque is made up of deposits of fatty substances, cholesterol, cellular waste products, calcium, and fibrin"

          I believe repeated stress causes the buildup to occur, it's like a layer of sediment that is healed over (and over and over). That's why many people nowadays focus on lowering inflammation when possible by avoiding foods that cause it. It's also caused/accelerated by various stuff that gets into your blood that shouldn't really be there, like particles from smoke/vape juices/alcohol/who knows what else.

          Anywho, I think that a low fat vegan diet may help in such cases because there is just less in the blood to end up getting lodged in place since you are basically fasting anyway. So more suitable as a last measure. I personally wouldn't recommend anyone try to adapt to a lifestyle of being fasted/vegan as often as possible unless you're trying to get rid of cancer, but I'm not a doctor either.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >"Plaque is made up of deposits of fatty substances, cholesterol, cellular waste products, calcium, and fibrin"
            calcium is the leading cause of all artery plaque.
            it binds both to itself abundantly and just about anything else binds to calcium also.
            which is why kidney stones form.
            take k2 calcium diminishes in blood and the body can start healing the plaque issue.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Boom. There's your answer.

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    What kind of heart problems do you have op? And what symptoms?
    I am not sure but I have a feeling I might be having some heart problems aswell as I used to abuse stims and alcohol heavily in the past.
    I am feeling dizzy all the time lately and I feel like almost getting panic attacks and I am not sure whether its heart related or its anxiety which has been aggravated since these symptoms

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Are you me?
      >t. Drank a LOT of alcohol, partied hard and abused MDMA / other shit in the past.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        If its in the past, why do you care now?
        MDMA is doesnt cause irreversible structural damage to the heart.
        Alcohol on the other hand wrecks damage to many organs, but mainly the liver and brain. Both are reversible if you stopped a long time ago.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          I care because I worry about potentially permanent damage done when I was younger and stupid. It’s been a few years since I’ve been a weekend abuser though. Now I stick to drinking one night a week on a Friday after work with some workmates.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      it's probably anxiety but if you're concerned about it, talk to your doctor. i get frequent chest pains when i'm anxious and it's usually muscular tightness or acid reflux, both of which are physical anxiety symptoms.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        It is definitely from the crack you are smoking brother. Just put down the pipe and it will be ok. I was in your shoes 10 years ago, so I know exactly what you are going through.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah thats what they tell me and the ecg test was normal but idk man im sure my hearts gonna go

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          ask for a heart monitor, do you feel any sort of fluttering or skipped beats? shortness of breath?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Are you me?
      >t. Drank a LOT of alcohol, partied hard and abused MDMA / other shit in the past.

      Sounds like B12 deficiency, I had similar symptoms when I was eating nothing but ramen and bread, thought I was losing my mind.

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Just butter

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    What's wrong with your heart?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      What kind of heart problems do you have op? And what symptoms?
      I am not sure but I have a feeling I might be having some heart problems aswell as I used to abuse stims and alcohol heavily in the past.
      I am feeling dizzy all the time lately and I feel like almost getting panic attacks and I am not sure whether its heart related or its anxiety which has been aggravated since these symptoms

      Not addressing the problem

      Just butter

      Taurine

      Not helpful

      Low fat vegan diet is the only diet clinically shown to reverse heart disease

      This

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Do you have brain damage in addition to heart problems?
        Because you seem genuinely moronic.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >simple ad hom without addressing any points
          Sad

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            I don't care to argue with morons.

            Dubs and op gets a heart attack

            re-roll

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              And yet you solved a captcha to insult me.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Worth it

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Dubs and op gets a heart attack

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Rolling.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Digits and the mass replying vegan homosexual gets multiple sclerosis and dies.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Singles and the vegan haters get colon cancer

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >singles
              Of course a vegan weakling would go for low hanging fruit.
              Go eat more lawn trimmings, goat boy.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Taurine

        taurine is actually cardioprotective

        source: read it in a study years ago but can't be assed to look it up to confirm

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        If you cant address the problem how the frick does anyone he know how to help you, moron.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >years of caffeine abuse
      >unhealthy diet (not fat)
      >no cardio (again not fat)
      >got the jab and suffered bad side effects

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Start cardio and eat healthy then.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          This. Also mild strength training.
          The frick did you even expect to hear?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          What kind of diet is best for heart health?

          This. Also mild strength training.
          The frick did you even expect to hear?

          I’m probably stronger than 90% of IST. Looking for dietary tips, fren

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >I’m probably stronger than 90% of IST

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >What kind of diet is best for heart health?
            Mediteranian diet.
            Also get raw salmon and eat a lot of it because omega3.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              What do I do about the angry grizzly bear?

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Go to a doctor you fricking moron

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    omega 3 fatty acids and k2

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    1 hr cardio / day

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      dont forget brolectrolytes

  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Eggs, butter, lard. Cruciferous vegetables. And some vitamin k-2 to reverse calcification of the arteries.

    I have "cured" many people with issues such as high blood pressure, diabetes, and high cholesterol with the above diet.

    Avoid sugar, especially fructose fruit sugar.

    And remember to thank the Lord every day upon rising.

  10. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Omega 3 and cardio/active life. Omega 3 is probably the best thing for your heart health considering how cheap and available it is.

  11. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Low fat peating is the safest, magnesium, taurine, vitamin d are good for heart health definetly don't eat any omega 3 like some moron is saying here.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      > don't eat any omega 3 like some moron is saying here.
      Thats the worst advice in the whole thread.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        You're the devil incarnate or incredibly stupid, if you had any idea about anything nutritionally you would avoid and warn other about pufa like the plauge, it is the most inflammatory thing in the modern diet that is probably casuing op's heart issues.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >shuts down your bullshit with one study

          https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/full/10.1161/CIRCULATIONAHA.114.015176

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I have no idea what peating is but this is basically my diet.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >liquid fruit sugar is good for your heart
      moronic picture.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        sugar is good for you. fight me, ketard

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >spikes your insulin
          >crashes you
          >fatty liver
          SUGAR IS SO GOOD FOR YOU.
          nice b8 m8

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            if sugar is doing that to you then you are too sedentary. Yeah eating a lot of sugar when you sit on your ass 16 horus/day playing vidya/anime/goyslave work

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              I am one of the only ones that actually look like they lift in this thread and I dont drink fruit sugar, thats moronic and unhealthy as frick.
              A few berries or fruit here and there ok, but what is with the orange juice in that pic lmao.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                just because you lift and are muscular doesn't mean you aren't sedentary

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                I eat about five servings of fruit per day (2x bananas, 1 apple, 1 pear, 100grams of berries) I eat them alongside each meal.
                Never go for that concentrated fruit juice though. Sugar overload.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                You can get fresh juice from whole oranges. No concentrate or added sugars. So it's about as healthy as plain oranges

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                nope 🙂

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >no fatty fish
      Why? Isn’t that exactly what someone with heart trouble needs?

  12. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    If you took the MRNA injection mislabeled as a vaccine, you are infertile and will die of multiple system cancer and organ failures, along with fibrin clots.

  13. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Atherosclerosis (aka the blockages in your arteries that cause heart attacks and impaired oxygen delivery to the myocardium) are made of cholesterol.

    Conventional nutritional medicine recommends a diet very low in cholesterol so that your body does not create these atherosclerotic plaques.

    Many on IST disagree with this recommendation.

    It’s up to you.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Dietary cholesterol has no impact on blood cholesterol.
      Its not about lowering cholesterol its about lowering inflammation.
      This has been studied through and through now.

      https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6024687/

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >Dietary cholesterol has no impact on blood cholesterol.
        Correct. Saturated fat raises cholesterol. Your study even states this.
        >However, there is an ample evidence that saturated fatty acids and trans-fats increase cardiovascular disease risk. The fact that dietary cholesterol is common in foods that are high in saturated fatty acids might have contributed to the hypothesis that dietary cholesterol is atherogenic.

        What foods are high in saturated fat? Animal based foods and coconut oil.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        > there is an ample evidence that saturated fatty acids and trans-fats increase cardiovascular disease risk.

        Guess OP needs to avoid saturated fat

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Her methodology re cholesterol is not great lad.

        She mentions how meta-analysis concluded there was an effect (and informed subsequent guidelines) but goes “oh but this RCT says otherwise” the ones she mentioned either had very brief study periods or a very low number of participants. There was also a weird part where she focused on very specific sub groups not showing an increase in serum cholesterol rather than the general studied population.

  14. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >OP figures out his heart is a muscle

  15. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    whatever french people eat, they have the lowest hear decease

  16. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    DASH diet is best if you're concerned about controlling hypertension.

  17. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Eat a diet that was carefully curated by wholesome chungus science to get you on heart medication

  18. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    VITAMIN C and ZINC will instantly boost your cardiovascular system

  19. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Stay away from meat, eggs, dairy, nicotine, caffeine, and steroids.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Stay away from meat, eggs, dairy
      wrong, wrong, and wrong

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        You are stupid and also WRONG!!!!!

  20. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I believe mediterranean diet was the pre-clownword consensus

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      No you are thinking of the Mexican diet

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >greasy tortillas with even greasier meat and tons of salt was back when food was healthy

  21. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Make sure you supplement vitamin k2
    You are almost certainly deficient in this vitamin if you live in a western country. Its role is to activate enzymes that deposit calcium into your bones. With this deficiency, you will instead get calcificiation of other tissues including blood vessels and heart valves. K2 deficiency has already been linked with cardiovascular causes of death (especially when the deficient patient is also taking calcium supplements). These findings can be extrapolated to assume that K2 deficiency also has a role in early onset dementia, where calcification within the brain is a common finding on imaging.

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