>Herniates every disc in your spine. >Causes shoulder impingement

>Herniates every disc in your spine
>Causes shoulder impingement
>If you accidentally lock out your legs you go light headed and pass out
>Bar hits your nose on the way up
>Bar hits your nose on the way down
>If you press to hard it works your tris instead of delts
>If you don't press hard enough you can't do the lift
>Takes months to increase even by 1kg
>Have to rest 5 mins in-between sets otherwise you will fail the next set
>If shirt is to tight you can't even do the lift

Overhead press is just horrible

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Good bait homosexual
    Overheadpress is badass

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      so true
      ohp has been my favorite lift since i started
      when i first started stronglifts i combined squats and ohp for squat to ohp 5x5s and made huge gains, squat to ohp just feels so powerful

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        you mean behind the back ohp or like front squat into ohp? And more like a thruster or you pause at the top of the lift and reset and brace for the ohp? thrusters are badass. I never got much out of behind the back ohp though. behind the back snatch grip pushpress into overhead squat is my shit though.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          when i first started i was too lazy to go to the gym so i did stronglifts 5x5 with heavy rocks in my backyard instead
          so i could only do front squats
          id do 5 reps front squat to ohp, so 1 squat into ohp was 1 rep

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            right. based i hear you. did you ever do thrusters? as in do the squat into the OHP all in 1 motion. more athletic of a movement and you can do much more weight since your arms can continue the leg strength momentum. vs doing a front squat then reseting and doing a strict OHP. not much point in doing that if the weights are really light. would get more bang for the buck with thrusters.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >how to puke at the squat rack 101
              I bet I would throw up doing 100lb thrusters for 10-12 reps. I should start programming these

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                yeah the catch in the front rack is pretty much the hardest part of heavy push presses and thrusters. and yeah if you get a bad catch in front rack your breathing and blood flow could get fricked for that rep. but yeah that's why should program them. be antifragile. convince yourself the hard things are enjoyable and the enjoyable things you hate doing. that is always my philosophy. if i don't like an exercise but I know it is beneficial I just lie to myself about enjoying it until i break through the pain and either figure out how to enjoy it or the mind over matter has worked.

                it is a great exercise to do if you havn't hit a PR in something in awhile but your squat or ohp has gone up. since it is an athletic movement you can likely PR on it much easier than strict movements. So it is useful for an ego boost if lifting sessions havn't been going great. a nice week of thrusters could do the trick to get the mind out of the rut.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Imagine doing Tabata sets with BB thrusters. Is anybody enough of a sicko to do these? Even for like 5 minutes with 65 or 85 lbs

                I might throw up just thinking about it.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                im still kind of a noob at lifting but i did 5x5 85lb thrusters a few weeks ago and it was insane, i was making exhaling so loud it was scaring the hoes

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                dbs or bb

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                barbell

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Excellent man keep it up. If you are a noob but you can handle these more athletic lifts you are going to get more bang for your buck than with stricter strength movements. Since it is such an athletic movement your breathing was likely really locked in and intentional which is one of the most important things to work on as a noob. Breathing and core inter abdominal pressure. Athletic movements are naturally going to train breathing in this way.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                thanks man i really appreciate it
                i get a bunch of squat academy shorts recommended to me on yt so recently ive started paying attention to breathing a lot more

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                nice. power and focus all comes from the breathing. make breathing part of the exercise. the exercise should be performed like a sacred ritual in the vein of a japanese tea ceremony.

                once more advanced you can even incorporate breathing as part of the exercise. for example you can as a variation of your usual thruster or ohp lift take 2 breathes with the bar overhead each rep. or what I like to do is for a burnout on my final rep i hold the bar overhead for as long as possible and instead of timing how long I count how many intentional controlled breathes I can take while holding the weight overhead. I find breathe counts like this work for me much better than timing things though i of course when able do both. Like for L-sits. Instead of saying I am going to hold this L-sit position for x seconds I say I am going to get comfortable in the L-sit position and take x amount of breathes in the position. Then instead of focusing on the time I am focusing on feeling comfortable in the position. Ultimately that is the key to many exercises achieving comfort in the position. Like OHP getting comfortable breathing and holding balance with a large amount of weight overhead will have carryover to the actual lift.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              oh i just looked up thrusters and that was what i was doing
              way more intuitive than stopping lol
              id do 5 thrusters quick succession

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                nice I thought so. wasn't trying to school or be elitist or anything. thrusters are awesome.

                In my warmups I do them with a 45 degree+ twist in my core when coming out of the squat with the heaviest slamball I can find in my gym. Really good way to make sure the core is primed and cooking for that lifting session.

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Post body with timestamp or your opinion is worthless OP

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous
      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        can't help but notice there's no timestamp here
        stolen valor gays are starting to get more obnoxious than the guys who just post a wojak

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Sorry bro but it herniated all but one of the discs on my spine so you are wrong and the OHP is based

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >I still got one disc left!

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >bro you just have to imagine yourself as the incline bench

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Have to rest 5 min
    Is this supposed to be a lot for heavy compounds?
    Trash bait

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Go away powershitter

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Make me, Twiggy McTwinks

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    how big is ur fricking nose Moshe ?
    explains why ur such a weak beta, because your a big nose fricking small hat israelite.

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Bar hits your nose on the way up
    >Bar hits your nose on the way down

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Ohp is just a sperg lift. Go get a pair of dumbbells and a bench and train shoulders properly instead of larping as klokov with your shitty <1pl8 ohp

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >dumbbels
      What exercises?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Seated dumbbell shoulder press, lateral raise, y raise, rear delt raise

  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    DB ohp is better for hypertrophy

  10. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >why yes, it is OHP day.. how could you tell?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      He got the singlet on and not the tight shirt.

      Yep. That mans doing shoulders today.

  11. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Well, that’s why I do it seated

  12. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >>Bar hits your nose on the way up
    >>Bar hits your nose on the way down
    ~~*OP*~~ exposed

  13. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Sounds like OP is a coward. Nothing compares to truly hoisting some weight overhead. Clean and push press is really the ultimate chad energy lift. True mogging of the other great apes in the vicinity.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >push press
      Lmao

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        What is wrong with push press? Far more weight can be used and the compound elements of the exercise are much improved. And the courage of it. if you know you couldn't OHP some weight but you are still blasting it overhead and holding it with confidence that is real courage and badass.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Push press makes OHP easier which defeats the purpose of it. It's like doing rows but you jump each rep to make it easier.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            it does'nt make OHP easier it is an entirely different exercise with entirely different purpose and reasons for being incorporated in training. for example OHP isn't going to improve your vertical jump but push press has been shown to. also it has been shown to increase throwing power. so for example basketball playing athletes train push press over OHP. It is an athletic movement rather than a strict strength movement.

            And if one is looking to just put pounds on their OHP they should still know how to push press. A advanced level lifter looking to increase OHP could go down to 90% do AMRAP OHP and then several push presses as a burnout which would attune their CNS to the heavier weight. In general push press is a great way to build confidence in holding heavier weight overhead to break through OHP plateaus.

            They are entirely different exercises push press should not be thought of as easier OHP.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >but push press has been shown to.
              where have you seen that? sounds like rippetoe fanfiction. people doing push press are probably doing other dynamic movements like cleans and plyos if they care enough about vert. id have a hard time believing push press was the only movement or it was the movement that increased vert.
              >increase throwing power. so for example basketball playing
              throwing power is good for shot put. basketball its not because it throws off your shot. you don't need to get stronger to shoot 3s.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >where have you seen that? sounds like rippetoe fanfiction. people doing push press are probably doing other dynamic movements like cleans and plyos if they care enough about vert. id have a hard time believing push press was the only movement or it was the movement that increased vert.
                of course they are training many things that are going to increase power production. I don't have a source but everything I have seen has advocated push press as a top exercise to increase vert. mainly when done properly with a real extension in the ankles and calves which most people likely don't perform properly.

                >throwing power is good for shot put. basketball its not because it throws off your shot. you don't need to get stronger to shoot 3s.
                sure not strength then i guess i mean work capacity. high rep low to medium weight push press.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >course they are training many things that are going to increase power production.
                >I don't have a source
                ok, so nothing that lets you Isolate push press
                >ankle and calves
                proper extension on cleans and the clean/snatch pulls usually trained by athletes train the calves and ankles more than a push press ever will. push press wasn't even a movement we ever used for football or any of the other d1a teams.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >proper extension on cleans and the clean/snatch pulls usually trained by athletes train the calves and ankles more than a push press ever will.
                I agree.

                >push press wasn't even a movement we ever used for football or any of the other d1a teams.
                I am just an enthusiast with no credentials and I can absolutely see that as the common case in reality. But if I were to train an athlete I can imagine situations where a traditional barbell push press would be something I would program.

                Personally I find your earlier focus on landmine exercises for athletes to be just following the current fitness gimmick. fitness professionals have to act like their field is constantly evolving and you are doing things wrong if you aren't following the new hottest science when it is all a grift. I'm not saying this from a dumb curl monkey only looking to get "aesthetic" I mean it from a real athletic performance training and potential stand point. landmine is a gimmick.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >find your earlier focus on landmine exercises for athletes to be just following the current fitness gimmick
                im not that anon. while something like landmines could be used, i have only seen it as a finisher or general mobility and coordination drill. injured people as well.
                seated db and incline were about the only overhead movements we had programmed
                t. was a real athlete

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                makes sense. obviously it is all about the workload / work capacity. an athletes sport specific practice and training comes first before strength training no reason to ever tax out on a heavy exercise like a high weight barbell push press. so i can absolutely see how instead things like landmine would be utilized.

                was anything in my original post

                it does'nt make OHP easier it is an entirely different exercise with entirely different purpose and reasons for being incorporated in training. for example OHP isn't going to improve your vertical jump but push press has been shown to. also it has been shown to increase throwing power. so for example basketball playing athletes train push press over OHP. It is an athletic movement rather than a strict strength movement.

                And if one is looking to just put pounds on their OHP they should still know how to push press. A advanced level lifter looking to increase OHP could go down to 90% do AMRAP OHP and then several push presses as a burnout which would attune their CNS to the heavier weight. In general push press is a great way to build confidence in holding heavier weight overhead to break through OHP plateaus.

                They are entirely different exercises push press should not be thought of as easier OHP.

                even wrong though? that other anon said training calves and ankle extension does improve vert which push press trains those so clearly push press does improve vert so I wasn't even wrong there. If a natty wanted to improve their OHP push press is something they could incorporate that would carry over to OHP. It isn't mandatory but if lets say there was a bad sticking point in someones OHP at some weight. if they did push press focusing on pushing through the sticking point with the momentum this would potentially carry over to their strict press. Also lowering heavier weight than their OHP can help build skill and strength in that aspect of the lift which could improve OHP aswel.

                and my original post was a response to someone saying push press is just an easier OHP which it clearly is not.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                i would say that push press would not improve vert because it is not the same motion when done properly. you don't get enough depth on the dip. you are supposed to drive knees out for efficient power, and its more like a squat than a hinge.
                you also are looking to get feet flat quickly for the drive where jerks and cleans don't really care as much about that.
                the final thing is that its going to be much harder to load meaningful weight that will work your body enough to improve vert. if you can handle enough weight, you are already doing other movements, like cleans, clean pulls, high pulls, etc, to work that.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >It's like doing rows but you jump each rep to make it easier.
            yea mean like snatch pulls or clean pulls? you know that training power is a thing right? being explosive is basically THE measure of athletic performance and potential. improving explosive power by definition means your strength has also improved. look at olympic weightlifter style athletes. majority of their exercises are done explosive and athletic. your potential to move weight is far higher with explosive athletic movements. they aren't "easier" in actuality they are far harder. it is objectively harder to perform a push press for reps properly than ohp. most that do ohp don't do them from the front rack position for example. so to do push press you need the front rack mobility and the ability to catch the bar back in the front rack position. this makes push press objectively a harder exercise and you can put on weight until the rep range is the same as OHP. it isn't cheatin it is doing a superior exercise for an athlete that gives far more bang for the buck. unless one isn't training like an athlete they are instead bodybuilding. I am talking about health and physical performance here.

  14. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Picking something up above your head is a fundamental movement. Training a fundamental movement to get strong in that area makes sense. All your complaints are literally skill issues.

    In conclusion, you are moronic.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Picking something up above your head is a fundamental movement.

      Name three examples of needing to lift something above your head in everyday life (you can't)

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >3.5 hours ago
        >no replies
        Confirmed worthless exercise.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Picking something up above your head is a fundamental movement
      This is really a landmine press-type movement IRL, which is why zero athletes involved in any professional sport (save for oly lifting) train OHP but almost every NBA, NFL, MLB. MMA/boxing athlete does landmine work. Go ahead and try to find any evidence of any athlete doing even a 1pl8 OHP. You can't. Maybe there's like one picture out there but I've never seen it. You are never, ever going to lift up an object OHP style outside of the gym. When you load a heavy object into an overhead space, the object is in front of you (like with a landmine press). Unless you're wading through a deep swamp Vietnam-style and you need to keep an ammo can dry above your head or something there's zero context where you would need to hold a heavy object straight-armed high in the sky. The OHP lean back takes it to an even more nonsensical place and makes it one of the silliest meme lifts that people regularly perform.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        of course athletes rarely train it is a strength exercise and not an athletic one. they do train push press though. also for professional sports that feature throwing where the arm goes behind the head and back to throw like basically all of them they train push press. but you are correct they train push press in more athletic positions. like barbell push press in a lunge position. very athletic movement.

        >ou are never, ever going to lift up an object OHP style outside of the gym.
        correct because outside of a gym you would do a push press to get it overhead why tax your arms.

        Strength athletes and bodybuilders train OHP obviously because it is essential for their sports.

  15. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    i did some today and felt great. im dyel and could only do the bar but i definitely will work on it and improve. idk why but shoulder workouts are intensely pleasurable any1 know why?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      because you like most human beings probably suffer from bad posture leaning forward and such and thus you hold a massive amount of tension in you neck shoulders and upper back. so the stretch motion of the overhead press is relieving loads of pressure and stress in your body. Also it stretches your anterior chain which likely never gets stretched from being crunched over all day sitting and suffering from forward head tilt. you have to push your head backwards to get your head out of the way of the ohp so you are fighting your forward head tilt. ohp is an excellent exercise to program for lifters suffering from skeletal and muscular imbalances from bad posture.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      do this more to start getting a very important stretch that the majority of humans that both train and don't train never get in your anterior chain. try and feel the stretch in the abs and groin area.

  16. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    How do I increase my limit? Feels like I'm stuck at 20 each side ohp

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      10 here, walking to the gym right now and I gotta do them
      I will endure

  17. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    > >Bar hits your nose on the way up
    > >Bar hits your nose on the way down
    t. israelite

  18. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Literally every point you've made here shows you have no idea how to do this exercise correctly.

  19. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >>Bar hits your nose on the way up
    >>Bar hits your nose on the way down

    I wonder who could be behind this post.

  20. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Barbell seduces your Dad, breaking up your home and ruining your childhood
    >OHP coordination with terrorist cells in Pakistan leading to trinational destabilization along Kashmir and Nepal borders
    >proven studies link barbell path 4cm and above the cranium increases likelihood deltoid cancer by 400%
    >exposure to OHP in double blind mouse study show significant correlation to OHP and inverted sex drive curve
    >despite being practiced for decades, there is no OHP world record. Either it never existed or it has been wiped from common memory

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >despite being practiced for decades, there is no OHP world record. Either it never existed or it has been wiped from common memory
      Trips of hidden truth. We must contact our brothers in /x/ and place an inquiry regarding OHP and rewritten Earths in a crossthread.

  21. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    OHP increases punching power.

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