Hey IST, finally living on my own and I have a big open space in the house so I could set up for weights to do lifts, I have a buddy who has his cage and weights that he gave up on and will just let me have them, it's some basic olympic bar and plates but I assume it will do the trick for compound lifts
On the other side he also has a nice dip bar setup he will give me as well and recommended that I just do calisthenics first and not worry about lifting at all until I am closer to 180-190 down from 260 where I am now
Is that good advice? Am I better off staying away from lifting until I am thinner and doing body weight workouts instead? I feel like I can start normal lifts easy enough like some 5x5 routine for retards but I can't imagine I could do any body weight stuff well given how fat I already am and now non muscular I am
I am not strictly looking to get strong, I just want to get fit and see what my physique can do after all this time so what is a better use of my time?
calisthenics is much harder the fatter you are. But I guess it's a good starting point if you can just do "squats/pushups/pullups(or rows)" 3x a week to see if you like the feeling of working out
I wouldn't say I like working out, I have been a life long fatfuck so it's annoying to do but I have to do something. I have done some 5x5 stuff a few times a week at a previous gym where I used to live and it wasn't super difficult aside from OHP that killed my noodle arms and I stalled out fast there, but I also have a really severe autoimmune disease that gives me occasional crazy fatigue and migraines so sometimes I just can't manage it, but like I said I have to do something before it's too late
Is that okay to do for a super fatass? Is doing body weight workouts on my off days from lifting safe or will it fuck with my progress steadily adding weight to my lifts
you are overcomplicating things, you are just beggining so you will make progress regardless of what you do so go easy the first few weeks, you dont want to burn out when you are just starting. Also go with weightlifting since the movements will be easier, but don't forget getting your pull ups as you progress
No thats terrible advice. Just start doing both weight lifting and calisthenics
do both, weightlifting will be easier at the beginning but there are some bodyweight exercises you should be doing regardless like the pullups/chinups, dips and hanging leg raises maybe push ups as well.
My brother in creatine I can not do a single fucking pullup if my life depended on it and a full non girl pushup would absolutely wind me or snap my fucking arms I think, are you sure it's a good idea for me to be trying to lift my fat ass using anything but my ham hocks?
Like I said it's going to be awhile before my shitty arms can hoist all this fucking mass anywhere but closer to a table, so I don't know what I could do if anything aside from lifts unless maybe it's walking every day, but I hear that walking is a cope and terrible for fat loss vs HIIT
>I can not do a single fucking pullup if my life depended on it
Work on your forearms and biceps as they're the main limiting factor when it comes to pull-ups.
Am I better off getting them started doing compound lifts using a bar, messing with dumbells, or the body weight workouts
Calisthenics is worse for your joints than weights because of all the stupid jerk shit and unnatural angles it has you do. The only reason people think calisthenics are safe is because literally everyone promoting it is 120lbs, I've met some. You go straight into weights, why are you even listening to a guy who gave up on lifting and is a coping retard?
Don't listen to this gay.
Listen to these guys. Don't limit yourself to one system. You're going to get benefits from combining both. There's also no shame in being unable to do pullups. You can do negatives as well. Climb on a stool, grab the bar and just let gravity ease you down. There's also dead hangs.
I have no idea what I am doing but coming from someone with their joints being eaten away by their own immune system it doesn't sound right as far as impact goes, maybe for the most crazy type shit but just dips and ups don't seem that high impact on anything
Is it a good idea to jump in to weights and bodyweight stuff? I don't know if say lifting monday and doing dips on tuesday would have a negative effect on my recovery for lifting on wednesday, again I am new to all of this so I can hardly figure out who to believe
Lol there's 80 year old monks in China that can do everything u wish u could
The weird angles can be done safely but you build strength over a long time
Weights are fine to jump into.
Calisthenics it depends. How many dips can you do? How many pullups can you do?
Eventually you should do both but right now you're too fat to bother with calisthenics
Don't be autistic, add weight to things like push ups. Back pack plus heavy book means weight.
Your body is already a weight your lifting. Add more weight. Grow big muscle. You don't need a gym.
Oh and buy pull up resistance bands
Use them to perfect form and make pull up dips or whatever easy AA fuck so you can just spam them for cardio focus.
Really focus on control and form. Be generally indifferent to how much your lifting
>Don't be autistic, add weight to things like push ups. Back pack plus heavy book means weight.
Post body or you are the autistic fucking retard for saying something so stupid to a fat guy who is just starting out he literally needs nothing right now to work
Never mind this explains everything
Y u mad lmao
Well because you are very stupid and ignorant of the topic you are talking about so it's frustrating that you would spew nonsense to people who are honestly trying to better themselves, I assume you are either morbidly obese or have a potbelly and noodle arms
get in a deficit
do whatever lift activity you can
you can probably do pressing benching, rowing, deadlifting, bw squat or some other squat variation, curls, tricep ext, some kind of abb shit. Find whatever your current level is and start there. Get on a beginner routine