High repetition training

Thoughts on very high repetition bodyweight training?
Is it legit if i dont care about being ultra big but hust fit and shredded?

Like doing 300 push up, 200 bw squats, plank etc... instead of the classics 3x8 gym type exercises

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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You can literally get the same results by doing weight exercises instead of wasting your time trying to do 300+ pushups

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >fit and shredded
      What the frick do you mean by this? "Shredded" is just low bodyfat with good amount of muscle mass. You want muscle mass to look shredded. You will never look like a youtube fitness influencer if you're worried you'll get "too big". You won't. You will never get too big by accident. You most likely will never get too big even if you try your hardest your entire life. Simply keep your BF% low and train for hypertrophy. You'll gain slower than you would with bulk / cut cycle, but you'll look relatively aesthetic year round, and you'll plateau fairly quickly if you eat at maintenance, meaning your muscle growth will stall

      How about calories? Will doing high repetitions burn more calories than classic gym training? Thats what i was thinking, also i cant afford a gym membership so thats why.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >i cant afford a gym membership
        drop the internet and pay the gym

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        No, unless you do bodyweight squats for 20 minutes straight in which case you're just doing cardio and it has nothing to do with muscle building at all. If you want to burn calories, do cardio. Training strength / muscle size does burn calories, but not as much

        If you want a low bf%, just eat less calories. It's a lot easier to control your energy intake than it is to spend extra. Can you give me an image of what you consider shredded so I know what the frick you're aiming to look like?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          even a little less muscular

          i did lift weights in the past so i have a little of muscle base

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      300 pushups take like 30 minutes

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Equivalent in bench takes less than 10 including warm-up

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >fit and shredded
    What the frick do you mean by this? "Shredded" is just low bodyfat with good amount of muscle mass. You want muscle mass to look shredded. You will never look like a youtube fitness influencer if you're worried you'll get "too big". You won't. You will never get too big by accident. You most likely will never get too big even if you try your hardest your entire life. Simply keep your BF% low and train for hypertrophy. You'll gain slower than you would with bulk / cut cycle, but you'll look relatively aesthetic year round, and you'll plateau fairly quickly if you eat at maintenance, meaning your muscle growth will stall

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    All the scientific data and bro science agrees that the weight needs to be sufficiently heavy for the muscles to grow.
    Doing sets of 50 for push-ups is like curling a 10 lb dumbbell 50 times, it builds endurance not muscle.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      There's been people on leddit who document that and showed good results, unlike 5/3/1 or whatever where's it's like 6 years and they still won't post body.

      Massive extrapolation. High reps build muscle and strength. At best they found it's sub 3% difference. I think you're talking about mechanical tension and high reps generate the same tension, just not as efficiently. "Builds endurance" is pseudoscience.

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    i like to do it as a circuit
    it's fine for conditioning and muscle endurance
    i don't it's particularly good for hypertrophie nor strenght
    even though you will have both
    i think its fine to get to a certain level

    if you want to progress after you will need to switch to weight or harder calisthenics progressions

    but i think you can be reasonably good looking with just high reps
    look at K boges

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Like doing 300 push up, 200 bw squats, plank etc
    have fun fricking up your joints

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You will get shoulder/elbow tendonitis for sure. I got it because I memed myself into the One Punch Man training of 100 push ups a day. After two months pain was moderate so I had to stop push ups. That was 4 years ago, and my shoulder still aches after doing push ups

      shouldnt that make your join healtier?

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    They can work but it's an insane time investment for what little you're getting out of it. Think of this way what if I told you the last 5 reps from failure are the only reps that cause growth. If you cut rest times significantly. You could hit those close to failure reps a lot sooner and lot more frequently but without all the non-productive reps. That is the essence of how muscles work. There's more to loading and recruitment but that is what should be in your head when designing calisthenics routines.

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    sorry for somewhat abusing the thread but
    if i can only do 10 slow push ups, will my muscles grow?
    its not high intensity, it's like a 10 rep
    thanks

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      if you can only do 10 and then you do 10, how is that not high intensity? You're literally training to failure, yes your muscles will grow

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >intensity
        Intensity, as a training variable, is measured as a percent of 1rm.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          yes, and 10 reps to achieve failure is high intensity if your goal is hypertrophy inducing training Black person

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >high intensity
            High exertion, which is different.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      jesus fricking christ, wrong webm
      sorry about that, i deleted it

      if you can only do 10 and then you do 10, how is that not high intensity? You're literally training to failure, yes your muscles will grow

      ok thank you very much
      lets get those triceps and shoulder muscles!

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You will get shoulder/elbow tendonitis for sure. I got it because I memed myself into the One Punch Man training of 100 push ups a day. After two months pain was moderate so I had to stop push ups. That was 4 years ago, and my shoulder still aches after doing push ups

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I got it because I memed myself into the One Punch Man training of 100 push ups a day.
      I remember when the anime aired and IST had a thread about this shit EVERY SINGLE DAY and people called out how moronic it is to train like in a cartoon, but nobody ever listened. Sorry about your shoulder mate

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I have done 300 pushups every day for six months

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Plenty of people do that shit and look like ass

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    No, that's fricking moronic.

    You can get IST by doing bodyweight exercises but it'll happen by doing shit like
    >One-arm pulls-ups
    >Handstand pushups
    >Muscle-ups
    >Dragon flags
    >Planches
    >Iron crosses
    >Pistol squats
    and so on.
    Not LMAO pushups to failure.

    The biggest issue with calisthenics is progression. To keep growing stronger you to keep increasing the load, otherwise you'll plateau. This is easy with a barbell (just slap some more plates on), it's much harder with body weight. You'll need to experiment with different angles and shit as you get stronger but not all exercises have a convenient progression of increasingly harder variations (often different variations work different muscles rather than working the same muscles harder). Explosivity can help - a clap pushup requires you to push that much harder than a normal pushup for example.

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