Hopping on fin

Few questions I know it's a meme that if you take it your dick shrivels up and explodes but in all seriousness how common are the side effects.
And can it actually shrink your penis and cause sexual side effects?
I've been told that dosing 1mg 3 times a week is more than enough to get the job done while reducing risk

  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The most shilled youtube channel that recommends the chudpill is owned by a "chad" that is really an incel because he can't get hard and every woman he takes to bed ends up leaving.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      are you talking about haircafe?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He's married with 2 kids.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        is it haircafe you're talking about? or someone else?

        What if you miss a dose of fin or forget to apply mino for a day? How many "misses" does it take for things to start going wrong? Because this is a lifelong commitment and some days are just too busy

        you'll be fine. fin people often take every other day to minimize side effects, it'll take close to a month before things start reverting (at least if the time it takes for side effects to go away are any indication). minox I'm less certain of but a day for sure is not going to hurt. just try to be consistent

        Fin's half-life is about a month, so missing a dose won't fuck up any of your progress.
        Min, I don't know. Nobody knows how the fuck min actually works, but missing a dose or two won't destroy your scalp either.

        >Fin's half-life is about a month
        fin's half life is actually just like 8 hours, but the effect it has on 5ar inhibitors lasts much longer, closer to a month like you're saying

        Show pics of your face, if you're not already an 8/10 you're not getting laid with or without hair. Unless you have money, of course

        not going to post a picture of my face on this board lol what are you retarded?
        >if you're not already an 8/10 you're not getting laid with or without hair
        hair can turn a 4/10 to an 8/10 and baldness can turn an 8/10 to 4/10. depends on how well you can pull off the bald look. so this is an idiotic statement, being more attractive makes it easier to get laid. that being said, I get laid just fine even with my head shaved, but it's been more difficult since I started shaving my head (even though my hairline was shit for years before that). started on fin recently and getting a transplant next spring, we'll see how it goes.
        >Unless you have money, of course
        I do, got that swe money, but that doesn't really help. Girls don't actually care whether you have money, they care whether you do things that make you look like you have money and live a social media-based lifestyle. apart from owning a house and generally nice things, I don't have flashy stuff and while I travel internationally pretty regularly, I do it pretty frugally because I just don't care about lavish hotels and shit like that. the girls I sleep with probably think I'm 5x poorer than I am

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >fin's half life is actually just like 8 hours
          In the blood, not in the tissues, like your scalp.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          > You, Marinus, gather sparse hairs from both sides and cover the wide swath of your shiny bald head with hairs from your temples; but moved at the wind’s command they return and they are brought back to their proper place and surround your naked scalp with long follicles on this side and on that: you will think that Hermetorus of Cydas stands among Spendephorus and Telesphorus.
          Are you willing to simply admit you are an old man,
          so that you might finally seem to be one person?
          There is nothing uglier than a comb over.

          You are still a bald man at heart, but now you are just a liar, don't kid yourself, with all of those fancy transplants and pills you dose yourself with, your genetic code still rings true to what is true, it is written in your essence to go bald, yet you hide? you lie, you deceive, pathetic.

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It depends how söy you are, if you're too SÖY deleting the DHT will throw your hormones off balance and you'll grow tities and your dick turns into a clit
    If you're normal nothing happens though. Probably.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      see

      I am a chad who met my last girlfriend because she wanted me to be a bull and fuck her in front of her boyfriend, I am overflowing with male hormones and am a hyperbolic caricature of sexuality. I went on finasteride prophylactically because i noticed my hairline was starting to thin out and was on it for a year. It pretty much eliminated my sex drive and made any loads I could shoot off weak, thin, and tiny volume. It also took off my edge in the gym--- just couldn't push as hard or as long, felt tired and flat. It also made me hold water and look bloated and soft (finasteride elevates estrogen). That emotional/affective flatness also carried over into my day to day life. I went off it a few weeks ago to try and push past this plateau in the gym and I already feel much better and have advanced a lot in my exercising.

      At the end of the day, you'll just have to try it and see if it gives you sides and if so, how badly. Everyone reacts differently and some people truly have no sides. I would *highly* recommend trying topical finasteride first (you can get it from Hims) because it is supposed to be similarly effective without the systemic side effects

      , I am like a raging bull and multiple women have asked me to be the bull who fucks them in front of their boyfriend. I am absolutely ripped and am a 9/10 chad. Finasteride flattened me out and took away all sex drive

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >but in all seriousness how common are the side effects.
    1 in 200
    >And can it actually shrink your penis and cause sexual side effects?
    No to the first, maybe to the second
    >And can it actually shrink your penis and cause sexual side effects?
    In theory that's true but anyone who's tried can tell you the effect is stronger when you are on 1mg+ daily

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >1 in 200
      thats actually a pretty bad probability
      but i guess you have to test it out
      i dont really believe in post fin syndrom if you didnt took it for decades
      i guess you will know pretty fast if you ha SE or not

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        more like 1 in 40
        information get intentionally suppressed by merck
        hairloss forums filled with merck shills
        people who report side effects are always told its psychological or placebo
        fin killed my dick for 3 years
        gave me gyno
        made sex less enjoyable for a long time
        dont do it, just fix your fucking lifestyle which is contributing to 80% of the hair loss anyway

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >fin killed my dick for 3 years
          Does it work again anon? What was your dosage and how long did you take it?

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    In clinical trials 1.3% of men experienced ED from daily finastride at 1mg compared to 0.7% on placebo.

    And yes, for the majority of people 1mg 3 times a week should reduce DHT enough to control hairloss.

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's under reported because men will gaslight themselves for hair. You are taking pills that fuck around with how your testicles work, there will be consequences. The side effects might be mild and possibly worth it, that's up to you.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why would fin make my testicles grow in size wise sage?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        that's not what he said you balding gay

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I’m saying by balls got bigger and I want answers.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Men don't gaslight themselves. Hair matters.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That's not what he means, ED and other side effects can't be really checked for so they're self reported. Do you really think a dude won't lie about something as humiliating as a floppy dick?

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Even with super low dose it caused my nipples to lactate. (I think my normal testosterone lvl is low?

    Also erections def felt weaker. Too bad cause it did miracles for my hair but I stopped..

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I am a chad who met my last girlfriend because she wanted me to be a bull and fuck her in front of her boyfriend, I am overflowing with male hormones and am a hyperbolic caricature of sexuality. I went on finasteride prophylactically because i noticed my hairline was starting to thin out and was on it for a year. It pretty much eliminated my sex drive and made any loads I could shoot off weak, thin, and tiny volume. It also took off my edge in the gym--- just couldn't push as hard or as long, felt tired and flat. It also made me hold water and look bloated and soft (finasteride elevates estrogen). That emotional/affective flatness also carried over into my day to day life. I went off it a few weeks ago to try and push past this plateau in the gym and I already feel much better and have advanced a lot in my exercising.

    At the end of the day, you'll just have to try it and see if it gives you sides and if so, how badly. Everyone reacts differently and some people truly have no sides. I would *highly* recommend trying topical finasteride first (you can get it from Hims) because it is supposed to be similarly effective without the systemic side effects

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You went on it when you had a very minimal amount of thinning at a very normal age retard. You don’t have enough test to take it.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You dramatically lowered an androgen (DHT) that is 3 to 5 times more potent than testosterone and you became less masculine, that's very strange, who would have thought that would happen?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >3 to 5 times more potent
        this must mean DHT is very important for an adult male right? surely this isn't just an irrelevant factoid you got from wikipedia that contains zero information about what DHT actually does

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >this must mean DHT is very important for an adult male right? surely this isn't just an irrelevant factoid you got from wikipedia that contains zero information about what DHT actually does
          DHT is an androgen just like testosterone, it's function is to bind to the androgen receptor to transcribe genes.
          >but derek moreplates said it's only for puberty.
          he is wrong, it is probable that DHT actually becomes even more important as a man ages to offset the drop in testosterone and maintain androgenic signaling, function and health.
          There must be a reason DHT stays constant throughout a mans life. If it was useless after puberty the human body would have evolved to cause it to lower, just like it does for growth hormone.
          If you think it's a good idea to suppress an enzyme that the body specifically produces throughout its entire life in order to create various different hormones in the body and brain then you are dumb.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Not only this, but 5ar is also responsible for converting:
            Cholestenone 5α-Cholestanone
            Progesterone 5α-Dihydroprogesterone
            3α-Dihydroprogesterone Allopregnanolone
            3β-Dihydroprogesterone Isopregnanolone
            Deoxycorticosterone 5α-Dihydrodeoxycorticosterone
            Corticosterone 5α-Dihydrocorticosterone
            Cortisol 5α-Dihydrocortisol
            Aldosterone 5α-Dihydroaldosterone
            Androstenedione 5α-Androstanedione
            Testosterone 5α-Dihydrotestosterone
            Nandrolone 5α-Dihydronandrolone

            But I'm sure none of these things are that important.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >But I'm sure none of these things are that important.
              Why don't you just look at the actual research on finasteride rather than make layman's hypotheses about what might happen if 5αr is inhibited. The reality is, a small portion of people get side effects, the side effects are known, and not that serious, apart from ED. Easy to just try it out, see if you get ED or not, and decide based on that

              >tfw can't tell if shit libido because fin or because shit sleep
              >rare occasions I do get a couple good sleeps in a row I get full morning wood and random boners like normal
              >still no way fin isn't fucking around here

              I've noticed this too. When I'm well-rested I can still get hard for 6 or 7 cooms per day. When I'm tired, I have much more trouble getting fully hard. Only been on it a month though and side effects are known to decrease with time so I'm going to wait and see. tbh my libido was so insanely high pre fin, I'd cum in a girl and be fully hard again before I pulled out, and we'd go again 3-4 times in a row. Works well if you've got a tiny penis I guess but girls mostly just got sore and the novelty wore off for them after a few weeks, which meant I was limited to just one coom per session a couple times a day, which was not sufficient for my needs pre-fin. It's a little scary feeling like my libido is dropping but from a practical perspective it's actually a good thing, especially right now not in a relationship

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >3 to 5 times more potent
            this must mean DHT is very important for an adult male right? surely this isn't just an irrelevant factoid you got from wikipedia that contains zero information about what DHT actually does

            DHT isnt useless after puberty. Its still very important, just alot less important compared to puberty.

            Try to have sexual desire and lust with zero DHT in your body. Yeah, doesnt work for the majority of people.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >If it was useless after puberty the human body would have evolved to cause it to lower, just like it does for growth hormone
            That's not how evolution works. We still have the useless appendix

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Appendix hold excess infection in your gut. We have made it useless through antibiotics.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Doesn't matter, that's just an example.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >That's not how evolution works. We still have the useless appendix
              DHT is not useless you idiot.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >There must be a reason DHT stays constant throughout a mans life. If it was useless after puberty the human body would have evolved to cause it to lower, just like it does for growth hormone.
            Yes, and if the appendix is really useless, we should have evolved to not have one, right?

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Yes, and if the appendix is really useless,
              DHT is not useless you moron.
              Look at all the guys in this thread with sexual side effects after starting fin. It's obvious that DHT is needed for optimal functions.
              I'd like to see how you guys are going on your fin with low DHT when you are 50+ years old and your test levels are lower and the cells in your body are less responsive to androgens. You will be really feeling the effects of low DHT by then.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I am on Dutasteride which is much more potent then fin. Ive been on it for well over a year and absolutely nothing changed except my hair is thicker. Im stronger as the years go by my dick works the same and my loads are the same. But i take my supplements and watch what i eat

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Im hopping off fin for a month to see what happens, been feeling foggy lately.

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Late night shill threads on IST. Never change one guy behind infinite IPs, never change.
    Sage.

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >how common are the side effects
    More common than the Merck ~~*studies*~~ suggest, less common than anecdotal internet reporting suggests.

    >And can it actually shrink your penis and cause sexual side effects?
    I dunno about shrink your penis but yes it can certainly give you libido and erection issues while it's in your system.

    >And can it actually shrink your penis and cause sexual side effects?
    That's correct yes.

    Also reminder to wear gloves when you're cutting the pills if you get the 5mg tablets. You can indeed absorb fin through the skin (hence why topical fin is a thing) and you can get a fuckhuge dose of it handling all the tablet dust cutting an entire bottle of that shit up.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I've been told that dosing 1mg 3 times a week is more than enough to get the job done while reducing risk
      Meant that this one is correct.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Much better to take .5 mg daily than 1 3days a week. Half life is too short so you'll have fluctuating dht levels. Anyways .5 and 1 dont seem to have much difference in efficacy but missing days does

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Much better to take .5 mg daily than 1 3days a week
          >Half life is too short so you'll have fluctuating dht levels
          Nope. Even as little as 0.5mg inhibits your 5ar2 enough to lower your DHT levels by 70% for almost two full days before they even begin to recover. Taking 0.5mg every other day is literally functionally identical to taking 1mg every day in terms of how it lowers your DHT.

          Also the half life of fin in your tissues (AKA your scalp) is 28 days.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Fin testimonial:

      >started in December at 1.25mg every other day
      >by late january and into february was certainly noticing less morning wood, not getting random boners
      >by May had two instances where I either didn't get very hard or lost a bone, but this was also with girls I wasn't 100% into
      >also in that timespan I fucked two girls I was really into and each of them I banged 2 and 3 times in a 12 hour span, full hard, one for an hour and a half

      >took month off of fin from early May to early June to donate blood
      >got back on at 0.75mg daily for consistency
      >noticed within three weeks significant erection problems doing this
      >cum watery as fuck, low libido, morning wood completely gone, no random boners, can't get a boner just by thinking about it or idle dick handling while sitting around, and even if I get a boner going it feels like my dick is straining and pumping to get itself to full size and even at full inflation is still rubbery and not rock hard like it should be
      >been off it again for 11 days and only today did I get some sleeping boners but they too were rubberized

      Side effects are real and are not just nocebo. I could see how you could nocebo yourself in sexual situations or in daily life, but your body doesn't nocebo itself in regards to morning wood/night time erections. It's weird though I did handle 1.25mg EOD pretty well, but on 0.75 daily I feel like I fucked myself up badly and am terrified it's not recovering.

      >Also reminder to wear gloves when you're cutting the pills if you get the 5mg tablets. You can indeed absorb fin through the skin (hence why topical fin is a thing) and you can get a fuckhuge dose of it handling all the tablet dust cutting an entire bottle of that shit up.
      Interestingly I started a new bottle and cut all the pills into 0.75mg and noticed my intense sides coming on after doing that. I wonder if I fucking megadosed myself with fin through skin absorption.

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Stop coping

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Fin gave me 0 side effects other than unironic mild gyno.
    No changes to sec drive can still go multiple times a day, and it 100% saved and recovered some hair combined with minox.
    Imma get a hair transplant then get off fin in my mid 30s, as I wont mind balding then.
    It just sucks losing hair in 20s when young.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Imma get a hair transplant then get off fin in my mid 30s, as I wont mind balding then.
      >It just sucks losing hair in 20s when young.
      Protip: you will still care in your mid 30s
      I'm 44 and still don't want to go bald.

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Dunno about fin but i went from high nw3 to solid nw2 with topical minox in 5 months

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Fin and Mino don't actually regrow hair or create new follicles hair, right? They just stall the falling of the remaining ones? I'm still not sure if this is worth the side effects but I'm thinning very bad right now. And hair systems/transplant have major flaws too

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        there are hair follicles that are so weak they can't push hair beyond the skin but are still active that can be rejuvenated with minox so it will appear to regrow hair
        if you've been bald in a certain spot for a long time the follicle is probably dead and cannot be helped

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Finasteride regrowth is minimal unless you're an exception case. Basically all the follicles that were miniaturizing get a little bit healthier.

        Minox recruits even unhealthier follicles to start growing again, but only as long as minox is consistently applied.

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Did a year of fin and 7 months of dutasteride and my hair is growing back at the temples. I honestly have no idea how or why, as I was using a dermapen, massages, minox, other snake oil oral supplements and it just kept receding slowly. Eventually about two months ago it started to grow back.
    My current routine is a dutasteride in the morning and minox 0-2 times a day cause I forget or only do it in the morning / evening, that and some generic hair / skin / nails gummies you get from any pharmacy. I have been a lot more active past few months though so maybe it's a cardiovascular thing idk. Good luck to all my balding bros, never lose hope as you never really know what's happening inside your body and it has it's own pace to things.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Also I never had any side effects personally

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You've spent all of this time and money and chemically treated your body and poked holes in your skin for a little more hair on your temples.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Or he went from almost bald to a normal hairline for his age. Have you ever considered why they are bald? Because they have excessive test and DHT. Bringing the DHT down or even bringing the test down a little will only benefit someone like that. If you have no test and are balding at only your temples and get on it you’ll grow tits.

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i had bad sleep along with daily nightmares and loss of morning wood

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    op the fact that you ask here about the side effects instead of doing some research/googling yourself shows that you are ngtmi

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Trusting garden gnomegle more than random anonymous autists on the internet

      ngmi

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        seriously dude, I've been patient so far but you need to stop posting here. if you're going to continue being retarded, at least do me a favor and stop redditspacing so it's not so fucking easy to identify your posts

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I was hoping it would make me less horny but it hasn't done jack shit. Just get some blood tests and go on it with doctor supervision if your that scared, you'll at least know if you react poorly to it and stop having to do the pussy dance of tentativeness, the sooner you know the sooner you can rule it out entirely and discard it as an option. Do or do not, just stop flitting around the choice

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i got no sexual sides when i was on it for a month or so but i started getting mild gyno and stopped. honestly i think most men will get a little gyno from it because dht blockers raise your estrogen by a lot. im gonna try topical fin instead.

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Only problem I've had while taking 1.25mg of fin daily is that it become increasingly harder to orgasm, but if I don't masturbate for 3 days then it's as if nothing was going on
    That also goes away as soon as I stop taking it

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      All our times have come
      Here but now they're gone
      Seasons don't fear the Norwood reaper
      Nor do the wind, the sun or the rain
      We can be like they are

      that sounds remarkably similar to when i was taking Zoloft. i still think that when my time comes, i will let it go. the Norwood reaper waits for no man.

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I have been taking fin for a while and am still horny as shit. Maybe creatine helps with the DHT stuff, idk.

  21. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Has anyone noticed any change in acne while on fin?

  22. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is there any point in doing fin if I have zero thinning but only recession at the temples
    Also I am very afraid of getting gyno as it would be permanent

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Not really. Having that sort of look suits some dudes. You should only take fin if you're gonna look like shit full bald or somewhere in between.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I have a very sharp V-shaped hairline unfortunately so any recession looks like shit on me
        I am doing minox+microneedling only right now to see if I can recover some of my hairline

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Minox and needling are basically the cavalry charge that comes into a losing battle to stall the defeat. There is literally no long term hair solution that doesn't involve DHT cutting unfortunately.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            yeah but I mostly care about getting my hairline back right now and I'd be more okay with balding later on. maybe pyrilutamide will work and I won't have to use finasteride when minox stops working
            I'm 22 now and people guess my age as late 20s on average because of the shitty hairline

  23. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >MOGS your shitty pills with mental health side effects

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      cope

  24. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Having to apply topical minoxidl everyday, maybe even twice sounds like a real hassle. And if you miss a day you start shedding don'tyou?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Doing it just once a day gets you 80% of the benefit so unless you're MAD balding that's pretty good. I just do it whatever random time I'm in the bathroom, it's easy. Only started last week though. But yes, having a lifelong commitment to it to keep that hair volume does suck.

  25. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If you're thinking about hopping on fin then I strongly recommend giving microneedling an honest try first. Can confirm that it makes new hairs grow where you have already gone bald. It's kind of tedious but the fact that I see new, thick, dark hair popping up every week makes it worth thre effort.

  26. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What happens if you hop on fin preemptively but aren't actually going bald?

    Say you have genes that make sure your hairs going to be fine and you still take fin, then stop taking fin, what happens?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Most likely nothing noticeable. Maybe you get low libido and rubberdick then that goes away once you stop.

  27. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  28. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    My erections are no where near as hard.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Guess masturbating 5 times a day won’t cut it anymore, huh?

  29. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >tfw can't tell if shit libido because fin or because shit sleep
    >rare occasions I do get a couple good sleeps in a row I get full morning wood and random boners like normal
    >still no way fin isn't fucking around here

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      finasteride is fucking around. What you are describing is exactly what alot of people experience on finasteride.
      30% DHT will still have you have libido if enough time passes and you are rested enough (penile tissue needs to be "loaded" with DHT for long enough in order to develope the urge to have sex), but its not enough to have it working as consistently and often as with 100%. Thats why alot of people are confused wether or not finasteride is fucking with them because they have libido but they also notice things are not 100% right.

      It is for you to decide wether you are fine with how things are. I can guarantee you though that if stopped finasteride, in a month you would realize how its actually supposed to be

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Actually I did take a month off once and it didn't seem to change much but it was hard to tell. The Strayan hair doctors did say that realistically it can take as much as three months for DHT to clear out of your system because the half life is 28 days.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah a month is actually too little. a month is around the time finasteride should have cleared out of your system. So you would need to wait longer than a month, atleast 2 months i guess.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >a month is around the time finasteride should have cleared out of your system
            Nope. Its half life is 28 days, meaning at the end of 28 days there is still half the amount of working fin in your tissues as the day you quit. At two months it's a quarter, at three it's an eight, etc. That's why some dudes can take months to have sides clear up.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Do not explain to me what a half life is, please.
              Im basing my opinion on 2 doctors who are very well versed when it comes to finasteride and combatting hairloss is all the do.
              Be it 28 days half life, whatever. A month is definetely to little, thats for sure.

              Good science bro

              Studies are indeed good science, bro. To be more precise, the difference between 100mg ED and 0.1mg ED is around 5%.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Are you actually retarded enough to think taking 100mg of fin and 1mg is the same thing?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I dont "think" anything, i just tell you what the studies tell you.

                They are the same thing when it comes to reduction in DHT, which is what the studies observed. Though the comparison were between 0.1mg and 5mg finasteride, not 100, but that doesnt matter.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Are you just ignoring the fact that taking 100mg would have a myriad of negative effects on your body that 1mg would not? Regardless of dht inhibition, its not the same thing.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                He's not talking about side effects, you fucking nonce, just about dose effectiveness.
                Even an ESL moron like me figured that out.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Ok so, his argument is pointless then. Makes no sense even bringing it up.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's not pointless, you fucking monkey, because he just explained and gave very useful information whether a dose as small as 0.2mg or close to it will yield the same results as a 1mg ed dose, since risk of side effects increase with dosage and any sane moron wouldn't want needless side effects.
                You're punching air like a retard.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                This is the average anti fin baldie coper

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Seethe harder

                wow

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I've seen a few different graphs like this with varying results.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Ok let's get on this shit.

                Finasteride
                -You have to use it daily for one year at 1mg per day
                -After that change to 1mg per 5 days for 6 months and then 1mg per 3 days until the day you feel you want to stop and be bald.
                -The results vary by organism (different metabolism, different health, different diet, different stress levels), you can see results from 3 weeks to 5-6 months. But Note, this treatment is forever, until you feel you wanna be bald.

                >Why 1mg

                As anon here posted, you can get the same result by using 0,2 mg, 1mg to 5mg. So by average we use 1mg.
                >But anon then I can use 0.2 mg?
                That's the issue anon, you can go by 0.2 mg and then get not results or get the same results, who fucking knows? I don't know how your body works, that's why we use the average since it has the better chance of working. Isn't it basic math to go with the average to get the bigger coverage?
                Also that chart comes from Saw Palmetto, a natural products that in the same studies says that it isn't as effective as Finasteride. You can check it out by yourselves so read bros.
                https://perfecthairhealth.com/saw-palmetto-for-hair-growth/

                >Side effects
                The side effects are non-existent. Going on average from 2%-4%. Can you see on the graph how the Whiting study goes to nearly 19,9% of samples having the side effects? Well that's because it's the sample with the bigger pole from men between 40-60 years. Men that are also on other meds and that suffer from illness like diabetes. So of course they muddle the sample. I wonder how many anons are on other meds here or have a non detected illness and blame Fin for the side effects. That's why some countries said to not eat raw food after getting a vaccine, not because the vaccine ducks your body plus the raw food, but because people are idiots and eat badly cooked food in god knows where and blame their tummy issues on the vaccine instead of the baldy cooking food. Read the studies bros.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Meh, I've been having sides for a few weeks still after going on 0.75mg daily. I'd say it's in my head but you can't nocebo your nightly biological functions. Gonna take a month off and hope it clears up and do MWF instead.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Seethe harder

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So the reason both 0.1mg and 5mg of finasteride inhibit the exact same amount of DHT is because finasteride inhibits 2 types of the 5-ar enzyme. 0.1mg (be it 0.2) is appereantly enough to inhibit almost all enzymes of these 2 types in your body, otherwise it wouldnt reach almost the same amount of reduction in DHT as 5mg per day would.

                So if 0.1mg inhibits all enzymes of these 2 types of 5-ar, then the side effects that can result due to the inihibition or inactivity of these 2 enzymes will logically peak at 0.1mg (again, let it be 0.2mg).

                So my statement that there is no difference between 0.1mg and 100mg makes sense to me, because what is 100mg of finasteride going to do in your body that 0.1mg isnt already doing?
                Inhibit more enzymes? No, it cant. There are no more 5-ar enzymes left to be blocked by a higher dose of finasteride.

                Best as i can explain

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Im basing my opinion on 2 doctors who are very well versed when it comes to finasteride and combatting hairloss is all the do.
                Same. And science.

  30. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Fin might give you sexual side effects at a very low chance but I'll tell ya, knowing that fin could give you sexual side effects sure as fuck makes you hyperconscious of your dick at all times and that will make you fucking paranoid about sides. I've noticed that I'll be like just doing any random things at any time and then think and idly sexual thought or about some attractive girl, and then I'll freak out thinking shouldn't my dick be getting hard wtf? Like what the fuck I'm standing in the grocery store line and my dick is FLACCID. Holy hit I'm at work and my dick doesn't even feel the slightest bit hard right now. Does it normally not feel this hard? Oh shit.

  31. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Okay buddy, listen to someone who has done nothing but research and combat hairloss for 2 years straight.

    1mg two to three times a week is enough yes. The half life of finasteride in tissue is several week, only its serum half life is 12 hours.
    In studies, the effective dose of finasteride is as small as 0.1mg per day.

    Finasteride side effects dont come from finasteride itself, they come from your dick not working anymore. If your dick doesnt get hard anymore, you stop getting erections and you stop getting bloodflow, thats where the penile tissue will atrophy. Thats when your dick actually loses size and you experience semi-permanent side effects.

    They are permanent though, it just takes quite some time to recover because thats just how atrophied tissue works. Imagine you workout for 5 years and then starve yourself for the next 2 years until you are a skeleton. Try getting your muscle back, it'll take longer than just a month.
    Same applies to your dick.

    Most people have adequate sex drive on finasteride, so these side effects are not a concern. In my case, i stop having sexual desire and libido when i take finasteride. I become unable to have erections. Thats why i got PFS after 8 months of finasteride. With trial and error i realized where the issue is though and what PFS actually is, i recovered very quickly. It took around 3 months for me to understand whats going on, and then around 4 months to get back to 100% normal.

    This could have been prevented by simply forcing myself to masturbate and keep my penile tissue healthy and working. I just decided to not do it because why should i if it doesnt feel good, eh?

  32. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It gave me ED, I was literally crying because I just couldn't get it up in front of a super hot girl. After that I realised that dick is more important than hair, and my shedding kinda stopped on its own just with minoxidil.

  33. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    never seen so many actual retards congregating in a single thread before

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Look at the board you're on.

  34. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ?t=86

  35. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I’m a gay bottom so my dick being slightly less hard means absolutely nothing to me. Stay mad bald straightcels.

  36. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >1mg/3x/week
    >no sides at all
    >hair thick and sturdy as ever even with wrestling practices rubbing it constantly
    I never knew fin had sides

  37. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >hey guys i'm a fucking gay
    we know lol
    daily reminder than peppermint oil has been proven to be more effective at growing hair than minoxidil or fin.
    cope more trannies.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >mint

      Worse for your test than chud pills.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        are you joking? peppermint oil is one of the few things we have blatant evidence does not harm testosterone at all.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      lmao hes still coping on peppermint oil. have fun with that. see you in a few months when you decide to hop on fin

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >you gays take fin and minoxidil with no improvement and tons of side effects

        >I started peppermint oil treatment 10 years ago for a fraction of the cost and improvement within a month to outright desired income
        yeah sure m8, i'm the one that's coping.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yea sure the drug proven to be effective in like 95% of men backed by clinical trials is the cope.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yes, peppermint oil is effective in 95% of men I agree.
            There isn't a single man on fin that doesn't look like a fucking chud and minoxidil has desired outcome rates as low as 15%.

            keep coping bitch tits.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              The amount of cope is insane. Ok anon keep up with that 95% effective peppermint oil, sounds good

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >you gays take fin and minoxidil with no improvement and tons of side effects

              >I started peppermint oil treatment 10 years ago for a fraction of the cost and improvement within a month to outright desired income
              yeah sure m8, i'm the one that's coping.

              >hey guys i'm a fucking gay
              we know lol
              daily reminder than peppermint oil has been proven to be more effective at growing hair than minoxidil or fin.
              cope more trannies.

              >muh peppermint oil
              Lmao what a retard

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              you are the biggest retard on this board right now and coping giga hard too, bravo

  38. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    why dont you fucking retards just try a low dose or topical if youre afraid of sides. I spent so much time worrying about sides because of threads like this until i finally started doing 0.25mg EOD. I feel great and honestly never even think about it anymore. my hair is fucking basado as well. shits so cash money

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I want to nuke my body and get maximum regrow and then I’ll worry about maintaining at smaller doses with less sides later.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Bruh, that's not how it works. 0.5mg cuts your DHT by 70% for almost two full days before it recovers. There is literally zero reason to take more than that more than every other day unless you actually WANT to get side effects blasting your endochrine system.

        Take ONE dose of 0.5mg, your DHT goes down 70% for two days. And fin has a cumulative effect too because it lasts so long in your tissues.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I’ve been taking 1mg for a month and am still masturbating several times a day. I think I’ll be ok.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      there is no difference between 0.25mg EOD and 100mg ED of finasteride.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Good science bro

  39. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Hey peppermint oil anon, do you have any sources? Legitimately curious because the only one I found was done on rats.

  40. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Tried it for a few weeks and it made me so dizzy I randomly passed out in my friend's bathroom out of nowhere. Just use a shampoo and topical solution.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ah the common fin side of passing out on your friends bathroom

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You sure you weren't slipped some other kind of drug, mate?

  41. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    taking poison is retarded, but I bet there's some extra retarded monkey ITT who took Dut lol

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Being bald, women will treat you like poison.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I take DUT, but im also on roids so whenever i need pornstar sex drive i just pop 75mg of proviron and have a diamond dick an hour later for around a day

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm on dut, since it's less of a hassle and it doesn't matter if I take it twice a week, once a week or once every two weeks.
      Had zero side effects so far and I've been taking it for 7 months by now.
      What's so bad about dut?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        most people will butcher their dick with dutasteride. It is not normal to have no side effects with zero DHT floating around in your body.
        Consider yourself lucky to reap the benefits of dutasteride without side effects. Dutasteride managed to regrow so much hair for me, its insane.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Weird thing is, I actually got hornier with dut and my erections are rock solid.
          I usually jacked off or had sex once a day and my dick was done for the day. On dut, I can go twice or thrice a day.
          Also I know that it takes at least a year to start seeing actual results, whether it's fin or dut, but so far (7 months in) dut MAYBE stopped thinning for me. Still a success in my book, but considering how many boogeyman stories there are about dut, I thought it would have stronger results.

          >It is not normal to have no side effects with zero DHT floating around in your body
          That raises two questions for me.
          1. This has to mean that dut doesn't totally kill your DHT, just something like 90% at maximum, right?
          2. Is it possible for someone to have so much DHT or have such potent DHT production that dut only puts a dent in it?

          >Dutasteride managed to regrow so much hair for me, its insane.
          Damn, congratulations bro. I hope I'll have great results on it too.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Its around 95%, which is pretty much zero for me. I cant imagine that if you wiped those 5% you would suddenly get side effects.

            No thats just very unlikely. Your body would need to produce an amount of DHT thats only possible with extremely high doses of testosterone.

            Anyone who uses roids knows how dependent sex drive is on androgens. It goes up and down almost lineary with the amount of androgens i have in my body (and how strong they are).

            Dut made me shed hair all the time but my hair never actually got any less. Didnt make sense to me until one day i looked in the mirror and made a "holy shit" face when i saw how much denser my hair suddenly was. Took around 5-6 months. From there on it plateauted and would have most likely progressed much slower, but i quit dutasteride after that. But yeah that was some crazy regrowth.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Dut made me shed hair all the time but my hair never actually got any less.
              That has not happened to me yet, but people report a moment of massive shedding even months into taking dut.
              I'm too brainlet to understand why that happens or what causes it.
              Maybe my body just responds to it mildly.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I'm too brainlet to understand why that happens or what causes it.
                hair naturally goes through different phases in its lifecycle. dut and fin force the hairs into an initial shedding phase that causes weak hair to fall out. This allows them to regrow as healthier hairs. If you're still shedding, that means the meds are still in the initial phase of replacing weak hairs with stronger hairs, and you can expect your hair to just continue to get thicker. Once you stop shedding and everything has been given time to grow back, you're at the end of what you can expect to get from the drugs, and from then on, it'll just be maintenance and slowing of continued hair loss

  42. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is there any difference between 0.5mg EOD and 1mg EOD?

  43. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    fuck off you stupid BALD RETARD this is a place to talk about FITNESS not your fucking PATHETIC weak hairless genes HAIRLETS FUCK OFF OUT OF FIT you hairless gays!!!!!!!!

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      cheers
      t. 30 incher

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      based, coping baldies are the fucking worst and need to be put down like the subhumans they are.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >t. manlet

  44. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You fags are all getting older, and will look like shit whether or not you have hair follicles on your head or not. If you want to attract females, start making money and stop worrying about your hair follicles. If you don't have either, then you're screwed either way

  45. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Test

  46. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It’s crazy how fin completely makes me unable to produce semen. I still have a sex drive though. Fuck that shit all I need is min tbh and fuck this captcha

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Maybe your coom was all sperm and no semen before you even took the pill?

  47. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I got long thick hair to my shoulders but noticed my bangs getting thin and wispy and all you idiots freaked me out to the point I just decided to preemptively get on fin.

    Yeah the not rock hard erections are real and the only real side effect I've seen outside of a shedding phase. I've moved on to every Monday taking a 1mg tab since it's an accumulative effect of fin. I also started taking 200mg of DIM and 1gram of Tongkat Ali to lower the estrogen and get my dick rock hard again.

  48. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Are minoxidil side effects a meme? Their reddit only has 500 members.

    Meanwhile zoomers seem to be using it to grow their beards. You would think there would be more people with issues

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      oral minoxidil can be dangerous (heart issues) but topical minox is perfectly safe

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I don't fucking know, dude. It's all anecdote vs anecdote. I can't even FIND any finasteride results that spans 2 years or more. I can only find people showing their results in months, I'm guessing they all lose their hair in 2 years? Because finasteride if I recall correctly doesn't actually grow follicles that weren't there before, so if you're thinned out somewhere that's going to remain thin. It's basically just making your existing hair not fall off and grow faster, right?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Their are tons of dudes that have been on fin for 10-20 years

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Where can you find credible results? I wanna see. I'm not doubting fin because I want to, I'm just being cautious. I'm sure it does work for many, otherwise it would be pulled off the market, then again garden gnome marketing and desperate men can make it stay on that market so I dunno

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            hairloss forums.

            Be aware that finasteride doesnt work for most people the way they want it to.

            People take fin and expect to get their hair back, but the reality is that for most people fin only works in the sense it stops the hairloss or even just slows it down and grows 5-10% back.

            So you wont see alot of pictures of finasteride "working" or of people telling you that its working, because most people do NOT grow back their hair to how it was, which is what most people want though.

            Finasteride ALWAYS works, but its just unlikely you'll grow your old hairline back in 2 years.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              alternatively you could just stop being a gay and fix your nutritional deficiencies and hormonal imbalances, gut biome, and do things like prp+microneedling and watch the goldilocks return

              but that's an immeasurable amount of effort required compared to popping pills

              >b-but m-muh autoimmune disorder
              so fix your immune system, dumb dumb

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                yes, men go bald because of nutritional deficiencies. that's why men have been going bald since as far back as we have written records. must be muh modern ultra processed diet gut biome
                there's no scientific evidence that the things you're talking about do anything to help with male pattern baldness

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >people in the past all ate healthily bro don't you understand it's just recently that we started eating like shit that's why you should take my chud pills because even though we don't know anything about what causes hair loss it's definitely the DHT trust me bro we know for sure lol

                I hate gays like you more than anything else. Slit your throat.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >oh no, someone is taking a pill to fix an issue that is literally unfixable without a pill! he must enjoy sex with other men
                >modern medicine bad!
                guessing you didn't get vaccinated either

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >someone is taking a pill to fix an issue
                for who, dishonest gay? fin doesn't do shit for like 99% of people

                you're so pathetic, pill popper

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >fin doesn't do shit for like 99% of people
                lol
                > Oral finasteride was effective (excellent or good) in 22 out of 37 (59.5%) patients overall, in 16 out of 18 (88.9%) patients in Group A, and in 6 out of 19 (31.6%) patients in Group B. None of the patients reported that oral finasteride had any effect on their hair growth other than on their head. Finasteride is more effective for treating AGA patients who are pileous in other areas of the body.
                https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3969676/
                >The assessment of standardized clinical photographs by the expert panel demonstrated that improvement in hair growth occurred in 48% of finasteride-treated men at one year, compared with 7% of men receiving placebo. The benefit of finasteride increased further at two years: 66% of men were rated as having improved hair growth based on assessment of standardized clinical photographs, compared with 7% of men receiving placebo.
                https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0022202X15529357
                why are you so opposed to taking a pill with minimal side effects that works for the majority of men? I can only assume you're a full on baldy and mad that other guys get to keep their hair and get laid with attractive women regularly while you have to resort to grindr or fatties

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >muh studies
                yet everyone ITT says that taking fin does not help with hair regrowth, just maintenance

                cope harder, and enjoy your dead dick

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >>muh studies
                >yet everyone ITT says that taking fin does not help with hair regrowth, just maintenance
                if you believe the selective results of people in this thread more than actual research, I don't know what to tell you, you're an idiot. people don't open up hair loss threads to talk about how their hair is doing great, because people with great hair don't think about it.
                >cope harder, and enjoy your dead dick
                imagine having such a weak dick that a slight hormonal change could break it entirely. nah man, I've jerked my diamond hard erection off 3 times already today and it's not even noon

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >muh studies
                yet everyone ITT says that taking fin does not help with hair regrowth, just maintenance

                cope harder, and enjoy your dead dick

                also, again with the redditspacing. Just stop. go back. you're not wanted here

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I hate gays like you more than anything else. Slit your throat.
                And I hate redditspacers more than anything else. You need to go back.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I can't even FIND any finasteride results that spans 2 years or more.
        That's because you'll have seen full results within 2 years.
        > I'm guessing they all lose their hair in 2 years?
        No. Basically, what's happening is finasteride slows and to a certain degree reverses male pattern baldness. So, for a simplistic example, let's say one person has a high response to finasteride and it returns their hairline to what it was 5 years prior to starting. They will continue to bald, because baldness is progressive, but they will still look better than if they weren't on fin. Two hypothetical scenarios for this same person depending on whether they got on fin.
        >age 25: not on finasteride, norwood iv
        >age 30: progressed to norwood v, gets on finasteride, returns hairline to norwood iv.
        >age 35: still on finasteride, progresses to norwood v
        vs
        >age 25: not on finasteride, norwood iv
        >age 30: progressed to norwood v, doesn't get on finasteride
        >age 35: progressed to norwood vi

        >Because finasteride if I recall correctly doesn't actually grow follicles that weren't there before
        This is true, but bald men don't lose hair follicles, the follicles just go dormant. A fully bald man at 60 has roughly the same number of follicles as he had at 25, just many of the follicles have stopped growing due to DHT-sensitivity.
        > It's basically just making your existing hair not fall off and grow faster, right?
        It depends on how rapidly you are balding and how well you respond to the drug. It can regrow hair that you'd already lost, it can halt hair from falling out, or it can simply slow down but not halt hair loss.

        be warned that finasteride and minox can cause shedding when you first start. what is happening is that you have a lot of thinner, weaker hairs that are preparing to fall out, and the treatment will cause them to fall out quicker than they normally would, but then they will grow back thicker and stronger than they were before. shedding is a sign that it's working

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Minox works for beard, at least for me.
      I had sparse hair on my cheeks, since I started using minox a month ago, I noticed a lot of small blonde hairs on my cheeks
      Clearly does something, don't know where it'll go in my case tho.

  49. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    I fucking hate minoxidil to the guts, such a bullshit product that does more damage than good.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Can you elaborate?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        first of all it does nothing to fight androgen hairloss. it only gives you a boost in hair growth and buys you more time, perhaps 2-3 years. Sooner or later the hairloss will catch up to you.

        It gave me horrible, horrible fucking skin. I looked so tired and shitty i couldnt believe it was coming from the minoxidil until i stopped it.

        But the worst part was the shedding. It made me shed like 600 hairs per day. In 3 months on minoxidil i lost more hairs than the previous 5 years. Every week i could see my scalp more and more. I didnt know it was biologically possible to lose this much fucking hair in such a short period of time.
        I know shedding from finasteride but this was just crazy, too much for me to handle. I stopped it and maybe 30% of it grew back.

        So i ended up being much more bald than before. And even if i had continued using it, i would have to deal with the skin and the famous minox sheds every couple months. That would have taken like 2 years before it would have stopped.

        Nah fuck that shit. The skin side effect i was just unlucky but the rest is something most people have to go through with minox

        and then at the end of the day you are still losing hair in the "background"

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You know what ruins your skin? DHT.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            yeh but he's complaining about minox not fin. minox does nothing to your dht levels

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              How does minox work then if it’s not inhibiting DHT?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Nobody knows. Unironically.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                DHT is only relevant to male pattern baldness. It's what causes men to go bald on the top of their head but not the sides, or lose their beards or body hair.
                No one actually knows how minox works, it was discovered to cause excess body hair as a side effect of it being used as a heart medication, but it works as a general hair growth stimulant. It's not fighting the underlying cause of male pattern baldness, but it does cause hair growth anywhere it comes in contact, including the scalp.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It’s a vasodilator. If you increase bloodflow it can bring back hair. Even scalp massage can work, though the results are underwhelming. The difference is scalp massage only increases blood flow for a short time while minoxidil does it all day

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                DHT is only relevant to male pattern baldness. It's what causes men to go bald on the top of their head but not the sides, or lose their beards or body hair.
                No one actually knows how minox works, it was discovered to cause excess body hair as a side effect of it being used as a heart medication, but it works as a general hair growth stimulant. It's not fighting the underlying cause of male pattern baldness, but it does cause hair growth anywhere it comes in contact, including the scalp.

                >anywhere it comes in contact
                or literally the entire body, if taken orally. I'm on oral use right now but I'm going to switch to topical because there are risks of heart issues when taken orally. Not worth dying to try to preserve my hair

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            DHT doesnt ruin your skin. It makes you look older but it doesnt actually biologically degrade or age your skin.
            And DHT doesnt give me horrible eye bags. I would know because i roid all the time.

            How much was your dosage? I've read one guy's story who also had skin issues, but he overdosed.

            I dont remember exactly but i know it was a regular dose once a day at night.
            I thought about doing oral minoxidil because it appereantly doesnt fuck with your skin but i never got my hands on it.

            Honestly i dont think minoxidil is completely useless. It has a synergistic effect with finasteride and dermarolling and the fact that it can cycle hair through its phases is very valueable in itself (just like retinol), i just think its bullshit if you use it on your own, unless buying yourself a couple years and not giving a fuck afterwards is fine with you.

            if i was you i would just try finasteride. And if you dont like it or you get side effects, just stop and do minox. It definetely wouldnt be my first choice

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          How much was your dosage? I've read one guy's story who also had skin issues, but he overdosed.

  50. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Catch it early bros. Slicked back my hair one day for fun and realized that my hairline was receding despite it being covered up by my hairstyle. I didn’t go into denial, I started dermaneedling and minoxidil. Even shaved my head during covid to make dermaneedling more effective. Went from nw3 back to nw2 on the bad side and from nw2 almost all the way back to nw1 on the good side. Density all over is much improved as well. Checking pictures I turned back the clock about four years and am still improving, albeit slowly

  51. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Im on it for 4 months now, was a bit harder to pop a boner at first but i think it was due to poor cardio. Started doing some cardio got regular boners again, really no sides aside from that.
    Try it, if u get sides stop. Thats it.

  52. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Don't fuck up your hormones with hairdrugs. Just shave your hair off like a man, learn to live with it and wait for the proper medicinal cure for aging to bring back your hair in ten years.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >just shave it bro

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Show pics of your face, if you're not already an 8/10 you're not getting laid with or without hair. Unless you have money, of course

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          > You, Marinus, gather sparse hairs from both sides and cover the wide swath of your shiny bald head with hairs from your temples; but moved at the wind’s command they return and they are brought back to their proper place and surround your naked scalp with long follicles on this side and on that: you will think that Hermetorus of Cydas stands among Spendephorus and Telesphorus.
          Are you willing to simply admit you are an old man,
          so that you might finally seem to be one person?
          There is nothing uglier than a comb over.

          You are still a bald man at heart, but now you are just a liar, don't kid yourself, with all of those fancy transplants and pills you dose yourself with, your genetic code still rings true to what is true, it is written in your essence to go bald, yet you hide? you lie, you deceive, pathetic.

          Certified incel moment.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            > anyone who disagrees with me is an incel
            now I know you have woman brain.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              You're obviously an incel, you can't hide it. And a wagecuck on top of it.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                are you getting mad because I exposed you for what you are, hair pill man? I'm bald but I'm honest, I take what God gives me and pay it in full, I embrace my traits like a veristic sculpture.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Incels are the men who need hair to have self confidence. Most men on this thread will go bald, maybe not now but at some point. The sooner you accept that this is a reality of man, the sooner your anxiety from such a stupid thing goes away

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Sort of true, sort of not. Obsessing over appearance is stupid and worrying that you don’t look like a 22 year old boy band member or that Chico male model guy who gets spammed here is retarded. But at the same time people are vain, superficial creatures so going into denial about how the way you look can impact your interactions with people is also stupid. Some guys are screwed and should indeed accept going bald as not that big of a deal but minoxidil is dirt cheap and takes like 10 seconds to put on so there’s not really any reason to not try to keep your hair as long as possible

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                But, you are still lying to yourself and the world? I would rather live my life hated as a truthful man, rather than a loved man that is a liar.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Improving your appearance is not lying. It seems you are low IQ, which makes you confuse different concepts.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                There is a difference between improving your appearance in a natural way as god as intended, rather than deceiving. It is why the final form of a chronic liar is pic related.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                There is nothing natural about lifting weights in a repetitive manner, also God is capitalized you mongoloid

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Nope, lifting weights is Lindy, people would lift weights back in Greece up till present day. Being a strongman on roids is not natural, yes.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Also it’s a rather small brain take to blame all this lookism stuff on the mythical “incel”. This type of thinking is exactly what companies want to promote in a consumerist culture- insecurity that they claim to be able to provide solutions for

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >he thinks he will be allowed to touch an anti age drug ever
      Lmao. Were you born with a multimillion dollar trust fund? Then no you will die bald.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Don't fuck up your hormones with hairdrugs
      >wait for the proper medicinal cure for aging to bring back your hair in ten years.
      oh yeh, I'm sure that a drug that reverses literally the most normal biological process possible isn't going to have any hormonal effects. If you're took scared to touch fin because you're worried about your half mast dick turning into a quarter mast, you better stay the hell away from any anti-aging drugs

  53. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What if you miss a dose of fin or forget to apply mino for a day? How many "misses" does it take for things to start going wrong? Because this is a lifelong commitment and some days are just too busy

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I've missed minoxidil for 2 weeks because I was on a trip and nothing happened.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Fin's half-life is about a month, so missing a dose won't fuck up any of your progress.
      Min, I don't know. Nobody knows how the fuck min actually works, but missing a dose or two won't destroy your scalp either.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        is it haircafe you're talking about? or someone else?
        [...]
        you'll be fine. fin people often take every other day to minimize side effects, it'll take close to a month before things start reverting (at least if the time it takes for side effects to go away are any indication). minox I'm less certain of but a day for sure is not going to hurt. just try to be consistent
        [...]
        >Fin's half-life is about a month
        fin's half life is actually just like 8 hours, but the effect it has on 5ar inhibitors lasts much longer, closer to a month like you're saying
        [...]
        not going to post a picture of my face on this board lol what are you retarded?
        >if you're not already an 8/10 you're not getting laid with or without hair
        hair can turn a 4/10 to an 8/10 and baldness can turn an 8/10 to 4/10. depends on how well you can pull off the bald look. so this is an idiotic statement, being more attractive makes it easier to get laid. that being said, I get laid just fine even with my head shaved, but it's been more difficult since I started shaving my head (even though my hairline was shit for years before that). started on fin recently and getting a transplant next spring, we'll see how it goes.
        >Unless you have money, of course
        I do, got that swe money, but that doesn't really help. Girls don't actually care whether you have money, they care whether you do things that make you look like you have money and live a social media-based lifestyle. apart from owning a house and generally nice things, I don't have flashy stuff and while I travel internationally pretty regularly, I do it pretty frugally because I just don't care about lavish hotels and shit like that. the girls I sleep with probably think I'm 5x poorer than I am

        >fin's effects last a full fucking month almost

        So why the fuck aren't we just taking 1mg the first day of the month?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Because for hairloss your blood DHT does still matter. Fin lasts for a month in your tissues like your scalp, but is out of your blood within a day. Your blood DHT levels recover within a couple days after taking a dose.

          This is why taking it MWF is likely the best dosing schedule for maintaining hair and minimizing sides.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >MWF
            What does MWF stand for?

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Macro-dosing With Finasteride. Basically taking ALL of your fin all at once every six months or however long your prescription lasts to get it all in your system at once then it lasts in your tissues until your next refill.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Kek

                >MWF
                What does MWF stand for?

                Monday Wednesday Friday

                Also I cant tell if I'm having sides because I'm taking a fuck ton of dextros which shrinks your dick while you're on it. Pretty sure I was fine before the dex

  54. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >how common are the side effects.
    Don't know, but I gave up after 3 months of my balls aching on it

  55. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So for taking Finasteride and Minoxidl, the most common way is oral Fin + topical Min right? Or should the Minoxidl be oral also.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      oral minoxidil is far more convenient but it's also risky from a heart health perspective. probably better to use topical min if you can do it consistently

  56. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I've been taking 1 mg Finasteride every other day for almost 3 months now. Still see around the same amount of hairs falling out in the shower as before taking Finasteride. Not sure if I'm a non-responder or it's just the shedding phase.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Haven't taken it yet, but I read about the shedding phase. What if too much hair sheds and don't grow back? Fuck.

  57. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Dermapenning is necessary for minoxidl?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yields much better results if you do both. Alone they are meh.

  58. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Bros?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Time for fin

  59. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I wish I can take dutasteride but doctors don't prescribe it also it permanently gets rid of erections apparently

  60. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Been taking 1mg daily for 5 months. No regrowth of course, but I do think my hair stopped falling out, at least along the hairline. Couldn't tell you if it's really fin, or if I was just genetically destined to thin a little. No dick problems, I don't think it's lowered my sex drive, but I've been abstaining because I realized I can't stand women if it's not to get laid.

  61. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I’ve been on dut (super fin) for 3 years. Zero sides.

  62. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The supposed side effects of finasteride are not controlled for age and they only appear to effect a low single-digit percentage of guys. If you're that worried about it, they make topical finasteride.

  63. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Don't do it. Tried it for a year. In the first three months hair came back a little. Great right? Last half of the year I had zero libido, and suicide ideation was almost a daily occurrence. Zero percent worth it.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How long did it take for that to clear up?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        About six months after, I started to feel more like my old self. But if i'm totally honest, both symptoms seem permanent in a low grade way. (i've been off it for a year).

        Also, i'm getting checked for what is either gyno, or noticeable weight gain in a very specific spot (i've been thin my whole life)

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Entredusting, were you on 1mg daily?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yes. Never bothered to mix it up/try reducing it.
            Look, going bald is destroying my self-esteem, and maybe i should be working on that part of me instead, but it is not worth it. If i knew that you could take it without any issues, and it would work for you, I would genuinely want that for you. For me, I 100% regret it. I'm otherwise fairly healthy - no drink, no smoke, no drugs, eat well, lift, etc.

  64. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I would just like to say that it's not fair that I started balding at 19 year old, all my friends have perfect hair and won't have to worry about this shit for at least 10 more years.

  65. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Where do you even go to get fin or dut? Which doctor?

  66. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    1mg 3 times a week.
    Bros..... ive been taking 1 mg per day.
    Am i dying?
    Which dosage size is correct?

  67. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Where the fuck do you get Fin in Canada fir a good price? Is the only real option getting doctor prescribed? None of those mail-subscription services operate in this god forsaken country.

  68. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Dermarolling seems like such a hassle, no way people do that consistently everyday

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Dermarolling everyday seems weird, I've never heard of it, highest I've seen is 3 times a week, and most people seem to stick to once a week.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You're not supposed to do it every day. Once or twice per week tops

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You're supposed to dermaroll once a week.

      Dermarolling everyday seems weird, I've never heard of it, highest I've seen is 3 times a week, and most people seem to stick to once a week.

      Once a week is optimal because you want to use minox along with it. After rolling you have to wait a day or two to put on minox, otherwise you're rubbing it into a bunch of wounds, even worse if you got minox in an alcohol spray.
      So by rolling once a week you're already taking minox 5-6 days a week instead of 7.
      Don't know if dermarolling twice a week will make much of a difference, maybe some other anon knows better.

  69. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    hmmm.... listen to IST retards.... or trust double-blind test studies....

  70. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Dick shrinks
    >Lose ability to get a boner without drugs
    >"At least I have hair on my head"
    How are you freaks not more afraid of literally losing your dick and sex drive over hair on your head? Just buy one of those wigs that you can smack on-top of your head before going out? I think they look good enough considering the other option is losing your dick

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Your dick can't shrink just less blood in your penis. If you're not taking excess amounts of the drug you can still get boners, calm down.

      I can say this because I experienced what you were talking about, and I will agree it freaked me out. I then changed my protocol of only doing it once every monday, started taking 200mg of DIM and 1g of tongkat ali and my dick is back to normal.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        ok chud

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          no problem.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Where you get your Tongkat from?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm on dut + min, never had a problem with erections or libido. I also use a penis pump for girth and vascularity gains.
      My shit is rock hard on demand, thick and got veins like a roadmap.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >>Dick shrinks
      None of those drugs constrict blood flow in your dick, and they don't work on dick tissue.
      Idk where you morons got this from, sounds like you're parroting from each other.

  71. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Gorgeous head of thick hair here. I hopped on keeps as a preventative measure, took it for about a year before cancelling. It's rogaine + fin. I have never had any hairloss (26) but wanted to be safe since my dad is bald. I experienced zero side effects but given my luscious hair I also didn't see any benefits, just wanted to maintain what I already have. Only posting to share my anecdotal experience that my libido and cock was fine, energy levels were fine, I didn't even know I was taking. If you're balding I HIGHLY recommend giving it a try and starting sooner than later.

  72. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    First day on finasteride, dear god, wish me luck

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm sorry to say but your first day needed to be about 3 years ago.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Well, let's see how it goes, no use crying over spilled milk

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I agree, wishing you the best. You may see some improvement but wouldn't hold your breath.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I mean, I already have a girl, is just to look more professional and better all around, plus I paid 15 bucks for 8 months of treatment, definitely worth a shot

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Jesus, well that's certainly cheap. If it doesn't I say just commit to being bald man. A nappy head of half hair is uglier than full bald on any guy, regardless of face or head shape.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yep, plus my girl loves my beard anyways

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Well there you go, bald + beard is as manly a look as you can get.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Not trying to be mean bro, you should shave off whatever you have on your head right now.
              Bald > balding

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That's last on my list, I have faith in this treatment. I don't really care about my hair much honestly, but I'm really lazy and my hair grows really quickly, I sported the bald look a few times already but I was back as the pic I posted in 3 to 6 weeks, seriously, if I can just not have to shave it constantly I'll be happy

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Kek, my buddy is the same and he fucking hates having to shave/buzz it all the time. That is one of the downsides when it's not completely gone.

  73. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    you balding trannies are sad

  74. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Don't worry bros, this TRT laden manchild says fin doesn't do anything bad to neurosteroids!

  75. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Starting 0.25mg topical + 1ml 5% min. Hoping for no sides.

  76. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I hate balding men so much its fucking unreal
    >if i take le heckin finasteride my hair will come back guys right... right??
    just fucking shave it off you baldie bastard.

  77. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i tried it in my late 20s for about a week or two. Noticed right away my dick felt smaller, resting dick state was shriveled, and I would wake up with hypnic jerks. Stopped that shit, stayed on oral saw palmetto until i discovered peppermint+rosemary+m.needling+ru

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Where you get your RU from?

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