How big can you get without steroids?

How big can you get without steroids?

  1. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    You can’t get big without steroids

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Natty till 21, its genetics.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Who is this guy? I'm pretty sure I know him.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Its me, Alex son

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Nevermind I guess. The guy I knew was half black with white skin, so he had the african muscle to fat ratio with fair skin.
            He was also a huge jerk to everybody who he was friends with but thats a different story.

  2. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    It depends how far you are willing to get. Eating a ton of food and sleeping a lot will put on more size than steroids alone. If you are willing to bloatmaxx and then cut you can beat the FFMI test for gear usage but it takes a long time and you run the risk of loose skin.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Eating a ton of food
      That will make you terribly fat as well

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Post body

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous
        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          That’s not you, I’m not new gay. You wish you looked like that dyel camel fucker lol

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            So emotional and hostile

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          i can see your shlong

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        I haven't done it but I read about old time lifters pre-steroids becoming bloatlord Oly lifters and then cutting after they quit the sport to become bodybuilders.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Same way you get big on them: lift a lot, eat a lot, sleep a lot. Just recognize that you're playing in a different league and there's no need to compare yourself to a literally inhuman standard and you'll be okay.

      >Eating a ton of food and sleeping a lot will put on more size than steroids alone.
      No.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Nah he's right. If you stay at maintenance or on a deficit year round, but take roids, youd have better gains natty just eating more

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      > Eating a ton of food and sleeping a lot will put on more size than steroids alone

      You’re genuinely retarded anon.

      Sincerely, A guy who’s done steroids and actually knows what they are capable of

  3. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    go find out retard

  4. 4 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      If I've reached this mode have I achieved the natty limit? Should I just blast gear?

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        bro that's dyel mode

  5. 4 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/89eyTLI.jpg

      Pretty big, unless you're a really tall lanklet giraffe skellington (185cm+)

      Out of curiosity, how did they train chest back then? I know they weren't super into it but I'm sure they still did something

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Loads and loads and loads of push ups, in different variations.

  6. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Pretty big, unless you're a really tall lanklet giraffe skellington (185cm+)

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Who the fuck is below 185cm? Where do you people live? I'm from the Balkans and 185cm is the manlet cutoff height in 2022.

      t. 185

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        175 (5'9) here living in the west. Many/most days I actually feel TALL around other men despite being about average height. 6'1 (your height) is pretty uncommon. 1 man in 20 maybe.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Damn bro. I feel short at 190 (6'3) but my family is all almost 7 feet

  7. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Pretty goddamn big, like accused of being on roids big. At most it'll take 10 years. But if you're dialed in on training and diet you should make most of your gains in under 5 years. Most people aren't that dialed in though. Roids are only needed to look like say Arnold in his prime or bigger.

  8. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    25 FFMI @ 15%
    24 FFMI @ 10%

  9. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    My biggest was 110kg with ~20% bf
    110kg ohp 180kg Bench

  10. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    That really depends on your genetics. If you have elite genetics you will be able to look like you are an average lifte on roids, but it will still require alot of work and sacrifices.
    Dont forget that most people use PEDs just as a shortcut because they lack discipline, so you will be able to look quite impressive without roids if you fulfill the aforementioned criteria.

  11. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I think I'm close to my natty limit 6'0 195lbs
    Going for 1 more bloatseason to get 200kg bench and then cut to see if I improve otherwise I hop on the sauce

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      if you are actually natty fuck you

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >those pecs
      >natty
      lol ok

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        That was with a sick chest pump I have to admit

  12. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Steroids are pointless unless you've been lifting like 3 years, at that point you're close to how big you can get so you can decide if you wanna roid or not.

  13. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    35, scratching 36 boomer. Been lifting more than I ever did in my 20s (Never lifted and was skelly mode) so in that sense I'm doing a lot of progression. But I'm feeling slower, weaker and been suffering from mild ED. Gonna check my hormones next week to see if I'm missing something.

    If my Test is fucked, should I push for a Test treatment? Aren't they just gonna say, it's natural to lose it

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      If it's legit low, no they won't. They'll treat you. Trt kinda sucks though if you don't need it. Pinning never stops sucking

    • 4 months ago
      Sage

      I was in a similar position to you, anon and my test came back at 505. Low enough to make you feel run down but too high for trt. Good luck.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        505 is fine. You shouldn't feel run down unless you have fucked up SHBG or some shit. 100-200 is some real shit tho

  14. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    at 5'10"
    >175lb very lean in almost contest condition
    >200-210lbs at 25% bf
    you will NEVER have more muscle than this natty. never. no matter who you are. not even they claim to be missing the myostatin gene. they're just a liar. you might get heavier than 210 but you will be fat as shit.

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