How did people in the ancient world get so athletic if they didnt have access to most of the modern day nutritional stuffs like whey, vitamins, ami...

How did people in the ancient world get so athletic if they didn’t have access to most of the modern day nutritional stuffs like whey, vitamins, aminos etc?

A lot of warrior/soldier caste people in the ancient world were described as living mostly off stuff like gruel, blood pudding, fruit, maybe the odd piece of meat, bread, water, wine, etc

How did they manage to go to war with armor and weapons and shit and train all day with this fueling them?

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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The only representation of an athletic male is from art and depictions of male physiques from literature. Most of it is embellished to a high degree. Do you think this is a good representation of the modern male physique currently?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      For athletic teenagers yes, for normal npc adults no. But they weren't depicting normal npcs in art or literature, they were depicting athletic warriors, the few depictions of normal adults we have show they're skinny fat with a belly

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        All I'm saying is its normal for artistic depictions to be highly deviated from the norm. Actual Athletes in the ancient times were the rich who could afford training their bodies and minds at the same time in the gymnasium. Warriors were more often just farmers being conscripted into a battle with other farmers.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          When I say this im talking about ancient greece persia and rome which is primarily what i studied. Idk about other cultures

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >conscripted into a battle with other farmers
          Stopped reading there

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Well I'm calling it how it was. Who do you think were fighting the greco-persian wars?

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              I was, homosexual. Wouldn't expect you to understand. have a nice day.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >They didn’t have whey, aminos, vitamins
                Bro they had
                Dairy
                Meat/Fish
                Fruits and Veg

                You act like you’re on drugs or something

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                And most of what they would eat would have been grains and fruit. Meat and dairy was a luxury that you only got if you could afford livestock or if you hunted or fished it yourself. Both of those words imply a chance of failure, but growing crops was much more of a sure thing.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, too bad Ancient Greece didn’t have access to some sort of sea full of fish. Would’ve really helped them hit those macros, right fellow historian brahs?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Meat and dairy was a luxury
                For someone who knows so little...
                see

                Yeah, too bad Ancient Greece didn’t have access to some sort of sea full of fish. Would’ve really helped them hit those macros, right fellow historian brahs?

                Also, cheese was one of the foremost staples of the old times -- so much so that it was given away in welfare to the poor.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Schizo behavior

                What makes you think an ancient greek farmer wouldn't be ripped as frick? particularly since, as you pointed out, they were called on multiple times a year to engage in a fight to the death. They were peak human form, gym rats have nothing on a farmer without a modern plow.

                Mostly because of access to foods. Most were probably frail or lean, not hyper muscular as the figures would show

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >What makes you think an ancient greek farmer wouldn't be ripped as frick?
                Because modern farmers in poor countries are dyel as frick.

                Greek farmers weren't poor, you fricking morons. They weren't starving Black folk.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          What makes you think an ancient greek farmer wouldn't be ripped as frick? particularly since, as you pointed out, they were called on multiple times a year to engage in a fight to the death. They were peak human form, gym rats have nothing on a farmer without a modern plow.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >What makes you think an ancient greek farmer wouldn't be ripped as frick?
            Because modern farmers in poor countries are dyel as frick.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Yet those dyel farmers are capable of lifting things all day long. The average gymrat would struggle to keep up working on a farm or building site.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      cope

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >The only representation of an athletic male is from art and depictions of male physiques from literature
      Important for a lot of people to understand this, the material we have to observe ancients bodies is not photographic, its art
      People romanticize the shit out of ancient figures and consciously make efforts to make them more attractive. Its not a recent Tumblr/anime thing, its been going on for as long as humans have recorded history

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I mean it is obvious there is some degree of artistic liberty going in in Greco-Roman statuery. I don't think anyone is denying that. Classical art depicts repeatedly one bodytype that is regarded as ideal. It's not unrealistic, but in real life, there would be a greater breadth of diversity in bodytypes, especially when it comes to the abs. It is highly unlikely every single Greek athlete had the same 4-pack ab insertions. That said, I don't see why this ideal wouldn't have come about as a collage of actual athletes used as refrences. The statues do display a great amount of anatomical accurancy in how a well-developed body would look like. This cannot be done just using one's imagination. Maybe the training-style of Greek athletes favoured a lot of rotational movements or something to that extent which made them more prone to developing that typical blocky core with thick obliques, in the same way crossfit does today.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >a lot of rotational movements
          Yeah, it's called not having a modern plow, and fighting to the death with spear and shield.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            No one who entered the gymnasion would ever use a plow.

            >but in real life, there would be a greater breadth of diversity in bodytypes, especially when it comes to the abs
            When antiquity philosophers write on the importance of physical fitness and health (plato going on about what a shame it is for a man to grow old without seeing what his body is capable of) they arent talking about people becoming fatasses at 8 years old like what happens today
            The physical fitness issue for most of western history was that people were scrawny if they werent the ideal
            To try and get at OPs question, the version of the athletes and soldiers we see are hollywood make believe. The guys playing the athenians in 300 were the most accurate depiction of a greek soldier youll find in popular media because they werent bodies built by a conscious routine like todays bodybuilders; they were bodies built by doing mundane physical labor 12 hours a day. Its as if they were the types to do a shitload of reps at low weight all day every day, 500 reps of swinging a 2 lb sword, 200 reps of hurling a 4 lb javelin etc
            Spartans were likely the only military that had a significant amount of chiseled statue ready bodies but they had a whole other deal going on with their men, fix a bowl of melas zomos and youll get it

            >The guys playing the athenians in 300 were the most accurate depiction of a greek soldier youll find in popular media because they werent bodies built by a conscious routine like todays bodybuilders; they were bodies built by doing mundane physical labor 12 hours a day.
            The physiques you see in 300 were "built" by literally painting abs unto the actors. In reality, entry to the gymnasia of Ancient Greece was restricted to the aristocracy. Labourers would not be allowed to come in, just as they would prohibit women and foreigners. The youth who dedicated themselves to the persuit of physical excellence in the sacred groves of Athens were indeed very deliberate about their training.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >No one who entered the gymnasion would ever use a plow.
              Well at least you've admitted you A. can't follow a conversation and B. Don't know jack shit about history. Thanks for playing.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              The spartan actors were painted, the athenian actors were just some buttholes with a bodyfat % under 20 in leather harnesses

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >but in real life, there would be a greater breadth of diversity in bodytypes, especially when it comes to the abs
          When antiquity philosophers write on the importance of physical fitness and health (plato going on about what a shame it is for a man to grow old without seeing what his body is capable of) they arent talking about people becoming fatasses at 8 years old like what happens today
          The physical fitness issue for most of western history was that people were scrawny if they werent the ideal
          To try and get at OPs question, the version of the athletes and soldiers we see are hollywood make believe. The guys playing the athenians in 300 were the most accurate depiction of a greek soldier youll find in popular media because they werent bodies built by a conscious routine like todays bodybuilders; they were bodies built by doing mundane physical labor 12 hours a day. Its as if they were the types to do a shitload of reps at low weight all day every day, 500 reps of swinging a 2 lb sword, 200 reps of hurling a 4 lb javelin etc
          Spartans were likely the only military that had a significant amount of chiseled statue ready bodies but they had a whole other deal going on with their men, fix a bowl of melas zomos and youll get it

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Looks like the same person but younger

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Every modern convenience is to make work easier. You make gains with hard work, there are no free short cuts.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    being fricking active

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    there's a surprising amount of proteins and calories in several cum swallowings a day

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Wouldn’t you know, queer-boy

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      look at this queer boy here, he's probably talking from experience

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    They didn't jerk off

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    genetics

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    exactly because they didn't have access to modern nutrition

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    genes
    food sources
    test and hormone levels from spending all day in the sun and fighting to survive

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    They had good genetics and more natural healthier food.

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    have you tried to just eat real food? i dont take any supplements or protein powder or anything and im jacked. Just eat real meat and you’ll be fine.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      this anon's got it. I use to frick around with the supplements/creatine/powder but it's all ridiculous. Spend that money on getting your diet in order, learn to cook.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      this anon's got it. I use to frick around with the supplements/creatine/powder but it's all ridiculous. Spend that money on getting your diet in order, learn to cook.

      >spend that money eating double the amount of food to meet the same micros
      >instead of just mixing a little amount of powder in whatever beverage
      you "le real diet" gays are fricking moronic
      it is called supplement for a reason
      you SUPPLEMENT a good diet in a way that you can consume a larger amount of micros without gouging yourself with food

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >It is called oven for a reason, morons! You of in the hot macros and of out the cold micros!

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        your body evolved to eat food, not supplements. There’s a reason you can’t just eat pills and onions to meet all your nutritional needs

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >onions
          got corrected by the site

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >whey, vitamins, aminos
    you don't need the last two if you eat meat, and whey is literal garbage you drink to save money. meat is better and better for you.

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >no processed junk food
    >trained in olympic sport
    >lifted natural objects

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >A lot of warrior/soldier caste people in the ancient world were described as living mostly off stuff like gruel, blood pudding, fruit, maybe the odd piece of meat, bread, water, wine, etc
    The warriors being depicted in ancient Greek and Roman sculpture were elites: aristocrats, kings, or even gods and demigods. Elite Greeks did have a lot of free time and prioritized exercise. A lot of the physiques not meant to be actual gods were just lean.

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    They were DYEL by modern standards. Yes, even the Farnese Hercules.

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    dude, think about pre-clown world media. everyone is hot, ripped, aesthetic, etc. pick up any magazine or catalog or film made before 2000. yea. they just depicted and exaggerated their best.

    altho less fatties because less abundance of food, and ancient societies required people to do physical things. no desk job at a computer.

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Dysgenics are real.
    Adam was made perfect but for the question of his soul. Every deviation from him is a further deviation from God's perfection.

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's just a misconception, they had access to a great variety of foods, in the more civilized parts they imported foods from all over the world and many of the basics were entirely affordable. Depending on the culture there were also laws in place to ensure that even low income classes had access to similar, nutrition rich foods, albeit of lower quality.

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Average greek body coming throug..

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Greeks work out. They used to shotput boulders and shit. You don't need modern gym equipment

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    unironically the average powershitter, mma idiot, crossfit homosexual, or just general lifter who's achieved at least 4/3/2/1 and is 5'8" or above could frick up the average greek/athenian/roman soldier and 1:1 hand to hand combat
    I'm not kidding you
    the average height of a roman was like 5'5" and they didn't have true training regimens other than periodic olympics and other random shit like that

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >other than periodic olympics
      >athletes representing the honor of their whole people didn't train outside of the actual competitions
      the moronation is so thick you could cut it with a knife. And 5'5 or 5'0 any one of them would destroy your homosexual ass in any kind of combat

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >And 5'5 or 5'0 any one of them would destroy your homosexual ass in any kind of combat
        in a contest of unarmed combat, the rankings go like this:
        >Average US MARSOC operator '06-'12 = average mongol horseman = average norse berserker
        >Spartan hoplite = sengoku samurai = middle ages knight
        >average mma/bjj homosexual = chosin reservoir gigachad
        >athenian/greek/roman infantry = persian infantry = average wermacht soldier = average hessian mercenary
        >civil war soldier = WW2 US soldier = napoleonic soldier
        >warring states period chink

        individual roman soldiers weren't particularly strong or powerful, the SOP of the roman military was just extremely refined maneuver warfare that was about 1,000 years ahead of its time. the romans and greeks would both regularly get their shit pushed in by the gauls and the goths and everyone else if they happened to be in a battle where they were at a strategic disadvantage and couldn't effectively leverage their tactical movements and formations

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >the average powershitter, mma idiot, crossfit homosexual, or just general lifter who's achieved at least 4/3/2/1 and is 5'8" or above
      I think Milo of Croton would have fricked anyone of these up. If not outright killed them.

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Dudes back in ancient times used to pick up big ass boulders to prove how strong they were. Most guys these days can't pick up a fricking boulder.

  23. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    They train from child.
    Something that a lot of pencil necks have yet to realize. You don't just wake up in your early 20s and become a genetic specimen in 2-3 years.

  24. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    They didn’t. This whole notion that ancients were jacked bodybuilders is not true.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      True, bodybuilders are all homosexuals. Ancient Greeks would wipe the floor with any modern gym rat.

  25. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    oh jesus christ, do you really think those marble statues are 1:1 with their real daily physique? oh yeah and that egirl isn’t caked in filters makeup and hair products.

  26. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    the biggest lie you've been sold your entire life is that you are living in the best period in human history from a quality-of-life perspective; that humans in the past died at 30 and subsided on rocks and mud

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      no one believes that

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        every single normie has been inculcated with this propaganda. mention any time period before fdr (birth of america) and they'll without provocation mention how terrible life was back then

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