by overcoming things that make u feel afraid/anxiety. if u have social anxiety. put ur self into social situations untill youve overcome it. thats were u will gain power from your weakness
i think at some point you just have to accept that you'll never over come it, and you have to adjust your life for that.
for example, i'm working to become a delivery driver so i don't have to be around people, and to find a girl i will go to the third world and get drunk and and try to be brave where i don't feel like such a lowly peasant.
i think it's more about managing it than overcoming it. the time to overcome anxiety is to grow up and develop normally, if that is lost then you have to work around it if you want to live a halfway decent life.
but what's the third world anyway nowadays, income is balancing out rapidly accross the world. you're oging to have to be a millionaire soon to even have a girlfriend
i don't want to effortpost but i hate people like you, you're the perfect slave to mindbroken therapist roasties who quickly want to wrap up broken men like you as a success case by spouting this bullshit about acceptance and overcoming without actually overcoming anything, make you content to "stay in your lane" as a drugged up loser gatekept from life, its defeatism wrapped in fake homosexual optimism and psychiatric drugs.
you probably keep identifying with your anxiety and other meaningless labels given to you by your 80 iq catlady therapist and serve this self fulfilling prophecy
have some self respect and empty your dumb mind of this slave stupidity and use some rationality and see yourself as someone who can learn and adapt
Black person, i feel huge anxiety for a lot of reasons
i take no medication, and i am always working to become better at certain things. i know my strenghts and my weaknesses, i'm never going to walk into a bar and feel comfortable, i'll never be able to work in a place with a largue group of people
at the same time i lift, i always push to improve myself pysically, and in other avenues that i can handle and manage
i have huge dreams for my life, when i get a job that i can actually hold.
you're completley wrong
but i will also admit, that probably overcoming some things IS possible
because now i'm reminded that, when I was younger i was too anxious to walk into a mcdonalds and order a cheeseburger, and I can do that today.
so, i think the truth is in the middle somewhere, but it's closer to my side of the argument than yours.
Lol I wish I didn't waste time thinking I'm just an anxious introvert. I had a lot of trouble even going to the store to buy food.
Later I forced myself to experience life and it turned everything around. Now working with other people is my biggest strength.
Today if I'm anxious, I know that I'm just inexperienced.
but there are also edge or extreme cases
for example everyone looks at me like i'm an alien from mars, in every country i've tried to live, because i'm so ugly but also tall.
plus there were other factors in my life history that completely wrecked me.
i probably shouldn't even be here discussing this because i'm such an extreme case. but it was interesting
11 months ago
Anonymous
you arent special, you are literally just talking to yourself so that you don't have to face anything remain content rotting away doing nothing
if you're ugly then make yourself the least ugly you can, if you have a past that bothers you still then you know what that is and probably how to fix it, no matter what it was
11 months ago
Anonymous
i'm extremely ugly, i had the worst possible experience growing up, and i was put into a targeting psychotronic torture program /fire protection as an adult, it's an extreme case
Some people need unnatural drugs to live in this highly unnatural man made society.
An easy cure would be simply living a peaceful live with a small handful of people you all know,a natural diet and being close to or in nature.
i would, but that option isn't on the table for me. in america you need a car, and i'll never drive again, in europe i'm a peasant and i need to work to have money, my father's village doesn't have water or electricity and i'll never attract a wife there
anyway i'm losing plot, later
11 months ago
Anonymous
Lol, I catch peoples attention too. It's irrelevant.
i hate how terrible and clueless mental health workers are at explaining the shifts needed in mindset and perspectives to overcome anxiety, i think its political correctness and israelite scamming mixed with general lack of knowledge about philosophy etcetera.
i had this major breakthrough explaining all my issues to trusted people for the first time in my life, and they all started to nod in how my depression must be "genetic", they just have zero insight in anything and everything mental health is just regurgitation of moronic myths and "i know/heard a thing", random feelgood slogans
you need to know that you're a fricking dumbass > i know my strenghts and my weaknesses, i'm never going to walk into a bar and feel comfortable, i'll never be able to work in a place with a largue group of people
people around you will affirm this or even say so outright, but its to make you feel better, it doesnt mean its true in any way, people's strengths and weaknesses evolve over time and it can happen in short amounts of times, but you don't know this because you dont live, history is full of people who transform. you obviously identify yourself as somebody who can't do these things, which leads to complex mechanisms in your brain that lead to anxiety, your perspectives are off, you can reset these things if you accept yourself in a different way, somebody who has these struggles right now but is going to fix them.
i couldn't even walk outside my door until i was like 21 and my moronic therapists would tell me things like i should adapt my life to just go to the stores during specific times when it was empty etc. why the frick would i? nowadays i go to crowded muay thai gyms and stare people in the eye on the street for fun because i am better than what some fricking prostitute prescribes me to be.
stop falling for this fricking fake pseudo-determinism
yeah you can paper over things your whole life and erupt at people like you're doing to me right now, or you can choose to live with yourself and design your life so that you don't have to paper over anything
oh yeah because revolving your entire life around >OH NO I GOTTA DO IT THIS WAY OR IM GONNA HAVE A LE HECKIN PANIC ATTAQ!!!!
is the preferable way to live
i have no clue what you even mean by "paper over"
im not saying to ignore your anxiety, you simply get over it by catching up with your lack of social and life development, which is totally possible and getting used to something is an absolute base function of the brain
you need to know that you're a fricking dumbass > i know my strenghts and my weaknesses, i'm never going to walk into a bar and feel comfortable, i'll never be able to work in a place with a largue group of people
people around you will affirm this or even say so outright, but its to make you feel better, it doesnt mean its true in any way, people's strengths and weaknesses evolve over time and it can happen in short amounts of times, but you don't know this because you dont live, history is full of people who transform. you obviously identify yourself as somebody who can't do these things, which leads to complex mechanisms in your brain that lead to anxiety, your perspectives are off, you can reset these things if you accept yourself in a different way, somebody who has these struggles right now but is going to fix them.
i couldn't even walk outside my door until i was like 21 and my moronic therapists would tell me things like i should adapt my life to just go to the stores during specific times when it was empty etc. why the frick would i? nowadays i go to crowded muay thai gyms and stare people in the eye on the street for fun because i am better than what some fricking prostitute prescribes me to be.
stop falling for this fricking fake pseudo-determinism
nta but i feel your opinions are not mutually exclusive. you're both right in way
anxiety is a learned behavior, the only way to not be anxious is to have a positive upbringing, but that seems like a luxury in our world. i wonder what percentage of people actually have ideal or optimal development as children. it feels like most people are fricked up, and that just gets looped over and over and over, over generations.
but maybe, that's because i'm a peasant and a piece of shit. probably high level people from prominent families do have these ideal or optimal conditions.
it's also just a clash of how shitty modern life is, i doubt hunter gatherers had anxiety as we know it today
everything is just really inhumane, mechanistic, so anxiety just kind of arises naturally
i think also maybe, some people are just not as prone to it, people who are less reactive and not as sensitive. probably some people can't even feel something like social anxiety
there is a lot of things at play here
my advice is to manage it by adjusting your life so that you DON'T have to put yourself in situations that bring up the anxiety.
but sometimes we don't have a choice.
>my advice is to manage it by adjusting your life so that you DON'T have to put yourself in situations that bring up the anxiety.
this is exactly how you stay fricking pathetic and anxious forever
frick you
frick you
frick you
anxiety and fear keep you safe. how old are you? probably in your twenties. the fact that you're alive right now means you probably avoided 10s of thousands of possible deaths. most of them by fear and anxiety
Its just a chemical imbalance in the brain
There is no secret to It,you either have It or you dont.
Could be genetic or induced by a drug or diet or a traumatic period in your life.
Im sure that except in genetic rare cases most people wouldnt have anxiety in nature with a natural diet and life.
Some people randomly get cured just by aging because the chemical imbalance gor fixed by the pass of time but this could take 10-20 years or more.
No but that confusion could have many causes such as brainwashing or a chemical imbalance again.
The brain is a very good machine if everything is in order,start fricking with It and bad things happen,It needs a natural equilibrium.
What does chemical inbalance even mean? Such a buzzword, i think even most doctors can't explain it.
chemical imbalance is literally a made up myth by the pharma industry, SSRI effects are also placebo-tier, not a single psychiatric drug has been clean so far
problems are people brains are literally wired differently and I mean this at the cellular lvl. the only way to effect the system is by bruteforcing it, there's no system, no algorithm
Its imposible to explain because its not the same for all humans ,lets take serotonin for example.
In some people high serotonin causes happiness and relaxation,in others It causes panic attacks and social anxiety.
Then the opposite also happens people with low serotonin who lead perfectly normal lifes and people Who are a depressive anxious mess.
And this is just one of many brain chemicals.
Certain events or foods algo trigger a release or depletion of this chemical.
Again one of many chemicals,its not only about serotonin.
it doesnt mean anything dude
people think they're smart for saying that a mood is chemicals, everything is chemicals moron, like 90% of people in the west believe the serotonin bullshit, thats why SSRI's are the most sold and most profitable drug ever and still we have more people depressed than ever in history
its just throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks
except its the wrong wall lmao
Some people need unnatural drugs to live in this highly unnatural man made society.
An easy cure would be simply living a peaceful live with a small handful of people you all know,a natural diet and being close to or in nature.
i agree that modernity is inherently shitty to people, but why on earth would you equate a natural simple life to an unnatural israeli scam drug? one that is literally designed to make you content living in said damaging modernity?
you sound like you're just a SSRI-head trying to justify being one, probably suffering from the same mental illness identification issue like the guy with anxiety ITT >society is so bad and im genetically someone who doesnt belong thats why i've been on citalopram for the past 8 years even though it doesn't do frick all after 4 months
Did you try to find something bigger? Something you want so badly you don't care if you die while pursuing it because it is worth the shot/your time?
such as?
by overcoming things that make u feel afraid/anxiety. if u have social anxiety. put ur self into social situations untill youve overcome it. thats were u will gain power from your weakness
if you seek anxiety out instead of letting it stop you, you'd become the most powerful person on earth
Anon, you have to live it!
i think at some point you just have to accept that you'll never over come it, and you have to adjust your life for that.
for example, i'm working to become a delivery driver so i don't have to be around people, and to find a girl i will go to the third world and get drunk and and try to be brave where i don't feel like such a lowly peasant.
i think it's more about managing it than overcoming it. the time to overcome anxiety is to grow up and develop normally, if that is lost then you have to work around it if you want to live a halfway decent life.
but what's the third world anyway nowadays, income is balancing out rapidly accross the world. you're oging to have to be a millionaire soon to even have a girlfriend
not a good day
i don't want to effortpost but i hate people like you, you're the perfect slave to mindbroken therapist roasties who quickly want to wrap up broken men like you as a success case by spouting this bullshit about acceptance and overcoming without actually overcoming anything, make you content to "stay in your lane" as a drugged up loser gatekept from life, its defeatism wrapped in fake homosexual optimism and psychiatric drugs.
you probably keep identifying with your anxiety and other meaningless labels given to you by your 80 iq catlady therapist and serve this self fulfilling prophecy
have some self respect and empty your dumb mind of this slave stupidity and use some rationality and see yourself as someone who can learn and adapt
Black person, i feel huge anxiety for a lot of reasons
i take no medication, and i am always working to become better at certain things. i know my strenghts and my weaknesses, i'm never going to walk into a bar and feel comfortable, i'll never be able to work in a place with a largue group of people
at the same time i lift, i always push to improve myself pysically, and in other avenues that i can handle and manage
i have huge dreams for my life, when i get a job that i can actually hold.
you're completley wrong
it's about knowing yourself and managing yourself
there's nothing to overcome
but i will also admit, that probably overcoming some things IS possible
because now i'm reminded that, when I was younger i was too anxious to walk into a mcdonalds and order a cheeseburger, and I can do that today.
so, i think the truth is in the middle somewhere, but it's closer to my side of the argument than yours.
Lol I wish I didn't waste time thinking I'm just an anxious introvert. I had a lot of trouble even going to the store to buy food.
Later I forced myself to experience life and it turned everything around. Now working with other people is my biggest strength.
Today if I'm anxious, I know that I'm just inexperienced.
yea i mean,
but there are also edge or extreme cases
for example everyone looks at me like i'm an alien from mars, in every country i've tried to live, because i'm so ugly but also tall.
plus there were other factors in my life history that completely wrecked me.
i probably shouldn't even be here discussing this because i'm such an extreme case. but it was interesting
you arent special, you are literally just talking to yourself so that you don't have to face anything remain content rotting away doing nothing
if you're ugly then make yourself the least ugly you can, if you have a past that bothers you still then you know what that is and probably how to fix it, no matter what it was
i'm extremely ugly, i had the worst possible experience growing up, and i was put into a targeting psychotronic torture program /fire protection as an adult, it's an extreme case
i would, but that option isn't on the table for me. in america you need a car, and i'll never drive again, in europe i'm a peasant and i need to work to have money, my father's village doesn't have water or electricity and i'll never attract a wife there
anyway i'm losing plot, later
Lol, I catch peoples attention too. It's irrelevant.
You can make all the excuses you want.
i hate how terrible and clueless mental health workers are at explaining the shifts needed in mindset and perspectives to overcome anxiety, i think its political correctness and israelite scamming mixed with general lack of knowledge about philosophy etcetera.
i had this major breakthrough explaining all my issues to trusted people for the first time in my life, and they all started to nod in how my depression must be "genetic", they just have zero insight in anything and everything mental health is just regurgitation of moronic myths and "i know/heard a thing", random feelgood slogans
you need to know that you're a fricking dumbass
> i know my strenghts and my weaknesses, i'm never going to walk into a bar and feel comfortable, i'll never be able to work in a place with a largue group of people
people around you will affirm this or even say so outright, but its to make you feel better, it doesnt mean its true in any way, people's strengths and weaknesses evolve over time and it can happen in short amounts of times, but you don't know this because you dont live, history is full of people who transform. you obviously identify yourself as somebody who can't do these things, which leads to complex mechanisms in your brain that lead to anxiety, your perspectives are off, you can reset these things if you accept yourself in a different way, somebody who has these struggles right now but is going to fix them.
i couldn't even walk outside my door until i was like 21 and my moronic therapists would tell me things like i should adapt my life to just go to the stores during specific times when it was empty etc. why the frick would i? nowadays i go to crowded muay thai gyms and stare people in the eye on the street for fun because i am better than what some fricking prostitute prescribes me to be.
stop falling for this fricking fake pseudo-determinism
yeah you can paper over things your whole life and erupt at people like you're doing to me right now, or you can choose to live with yourself and design your life so that you don't have to paper over anything
oh yeah because revolving your entire life around >OH NO I GOTTA DO IT THIS WAY OR IM GONNA HAVE A LE HECKIN PANIC ATTAQ!!!!
is the preferable way to live
i have no clue what you even mean by "paper over"
im not saying to ignore your anxiety, you simply get over it by catching up with your lack of social and life development, which is totally possible and getting used to something is an absolute base function of the brain
nta but i feel your opinions are not mutually exclusive. you're both right in way
anxiety is a learned behavior, the only way to not be anxious is to have a positive upbringing, but that seems like a luxury in our world. i wonder what percentage of people actually have ideal or optimal development as children. it feels like most people are fricked up, and that just gets looped over and over and over, over generations.
but maybe, that's because i'm a peasant and a piece of shit. probably high level people from prominent families do have these ideal or optimal conditions.
it's also just a clash of how shitty modern life is, i doubt hunter gatherers had anxiety as we know it today
everything is just really inhumane, mechanistic, so anxiety just kind of arises naturally
i think also maybe, some people are just not as prone to it, people who are less reactive and not as sensitive. probably some people can't even feel something like social anxiety
there is a lot of things at play here
my advice is to manage it by adjusting your life so that you DON'T have to put yourself in situations that bring up the anxiety.
but sometimes we don't have a choice.
>my advice is to manage it by adjusting your life so that you DON'T have to put yourself in situations that bring up the anxiety.
this is exactly how you stay fricking pathetic and anxious forever
frick you
frick you
frick you
anxiety and fear keep you safe. how old are you? probably in your twenties. the fact that you're alive right now means you probably avoided 10s of thousands of possible deaths. most of them by fear and anxiety
Its just a chemical imbalance in the brain
There is no secret to It,you either have It or you dont.
Could be genetic or induced by a drug or diet or a traumatic period in your life.
Im sure that except in genetic rare cases most people wouldnt have anxiety in nature with a natural diet and life.
Some people randomly get cured just by aging because the chemical imbalance gor fixed by the pass of time but this could take 10-20 years or more.
so true, also some 7 year old girls are accidentally born in the body of a boy, its just science.
No but that confusion could have many causes such as brainwashing or a chemical imbalance again.
The brain is a very good machine if everything is in order,start fricking with It and bad things happen,It needs a natural equilibrium.
chemical imbalance is literally a made up myth by the pharma industry, SSRI effects are also placebo-tier, not a single psychiatric drug has been clean so far
problems are people brains are literally wired differently and I mean this at the cellular lvl. the only way to effect the system is by bruteforcing it, there's no system, no algorithm
What does chemical inbalance even mean? Such a buzzword, i think even most doctors can't explain it.
Its imposible to explain because its not the same for all humans ,lets take serotonin for example.
In some people high serotonin causes happiness and relaxation,in others It causes panic attacks and social anxiety.
Then the opposite also happens people with low serotonin who lead perfectly normal lifes and people Who are a depressive anxious mess.
And this is just one of many brain chemicals.
Certain events or foods algo trigger a release or depletion of this chemical.
Again one of many chemicals,its not only about serotonin.
it doesnt mean anything dude
people think they're smart for saying that a mood is chemicals, everything is chemicals moron, like 90% of people in the west believe the serotonin bullshit, thats why SSRI's are the most sold and most profitable drug ever and still we have more people depressed than ever in history
its just throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks
except its the wrong wall lmao
Some people need unnatural drugs to live in this highly unnatural man made society.
An easy cure would be simply living a peaceful live with a small handful of people you all know,a natural diet and being close to or in nature.
i agree that modernity is inherently shitty to people, but why on earth would you equate a natural simple life to an unnatural israeli scam drug? one that is literally designed to make you content living in said damaging modernity?
you sound like you're just a SSRI-head trying to justify being one, probably suffering from the same mental illness identification issue like the guy with anxiety ITT
>society is so bad and im genetically someone who doesnt belong thats why i've been on citalopram for the past 8 years even though it doesn't do frick all after 4 months
Im not on drugs but I have tried them ,I have felt good on off and bad on off and that just confirmed everything I needed to know.
Small exposure to the anxiety causing thing, don't take the sets to failure, just increase the volume/intensity slowly.
"How to Stop Worrying and Start Living" by Dale Carnegie, same guy who wrote the Make Friends book.