I want to build back but the lat pulldown machine at my uni gym is always taken.
yeah I'm already doing pullups
How do these compare to lat pulldowns?
I want to build back but the lat pulldown machine at my uni gym is always taken.
yeah I'm already doing pullups
It mogs lat pulldowns into oblivion. Do them
Interesting, that begs the question, DB rows or BB rows? Or both?
Whatever you feel more comfortable with. It's easier for noobs to use dbs because you can stabilize yourself with a bench and hyperextend the motion like a lawnmower so you feel lats super easily. I use barbell because dbs over 75lb are obnoxiously bulky and shred my hands
these + lat pullovers w/ DBs = big ass wings
bb rows are the best
different exercises mo
lat pulldown focus more on the lats while rows distribute the weight more evenly through all the smaller muscles that give definition to your back
I'm not a big fan of barbell rows. They are simultaneous a worse deadlift and a worse pullup.
Lat pulldowns are also worse than pullups.
Probably just up your frequency on pull-ups and do them weighted if you are not already.
so just do deadlifts and pullups ?
I think they work really well with pullups. Pullups hit the vertical plane, bb rows hit the horizontal plane. Doing just pullups would be like only doing shrugs to hit traps, you're missing a whole other range of motion that hits the middle and bottom portion of the muscle.
BB rows still do absolutely mog lat pulldowns and horizontal rows though, those meme machines are as useful as cunt crushers
It's all just scapular retraction, same muscles. Only really worth having one scapular retraction exercise.
Yes.
Ok then why not bb rows? Way easier to overload on. Or why even bother with tricep work? Bench press hits them just fine since they're both elbow extensions.
Bench press doesn't hit the shoulder extension part of the tricep.
Barbell rows don't hit anything the Pullup doesn't except maybe the spinal erectors.
there are other variables to consider outside of "it's the same muscle action"
some exercises are better suited to different rep ranges, loads, force curves, etc.
variety in these stimuli are a good thing
although, would be interested in hearing some alternatives/variances for back that aren't scapular retraction
>Pullups hit the vertical plane, bb rows hit the horizontal plane.
this is a meme. it makes you difference which direction you are facing. all muscles do is contract or relax.
>but the lat pulldown machine at my uni gym is always taken.
Do pullups instead. There's almost always an open bar somewhere in the gym
I feel that these hit my lats the hardest over chin ups, I still do these and chinups aswell as lat pulldows and my back is always stiff and sore the next day and I have a moving job and it's absolutely hell after back days, the doms is insane
Do you guys do these supported or standing?
How are you comparing something as kino as BB rows with cuck lat pulldowns. No wonder most of you have weak ass backs
These have got to work your abs pretty well too right? what with having to hold your torso in that position
How does this compare?
This is like using a Smith machine to squat lol
>he doesn't do platz squats with the smith
It's like you don't want immediate quad gains.
>MUHHH MAXIMAL WEIGHT
okay
kek, righto. Perhaps ill try barbell rows next time.
Could be better for people without proper chain strength but I hate the grips the awkward angle made holding it hard.
It's the best after hammering your low back so hard that you walk like an old man.
God I hate falling for 5x5 memes.
As you can see in the picture that is pulling up
And lat pull down pulls down
So do you want up or down muscle?
Most exercises have their place. Do the one you enjoy that hits the muscle.
I've been hitting a lot of Kroc rows lately, keen to see how more strict barbell rows feel when I come back to it
CHRISTMAS TIME NOW FOR THE LOWER BACK!
>Loved by every great bodybuilder
>Simple to do
>One of the most "fun" lifts (IMHO)
>Much easier on your spinal erectors than BB row
Take the landminepill. Also, do pull-ups and deadlifts.
bb rows trash my back despite having 600ish pound deadlift. Pull ups + t bar row/smith machine row is what i do
Genetically, my lats are my worst point aesthetically. My shoulders aren't that broad, my core is thick and muscular, endomorph etc. Dense bones, short, lean but thick limbs, you get it. Rows helped get a V shape more than pulldowns ever would, and transfer to pulldowns more than vice versa. For the record, my back muscles are strong, just not pretty, but if anything's helped hypertrophy, it's barbell rows. Good form, something like 5x8 reps. It's worked better for me than even pullups.