>Muh bicep size went down 🙁
You had fat in your biceps, moron. >But muh strength went down too 🙁
Yeah, being at a calorie deficit, especially low carbs, will make you weaker because you have no food energy. Your body doesn't take away your muscle if your working them out because you're telling it that you still need them. And it'll only take away muscle while working them out if you don't eat enough protein for cellular repair
You're right mostly but you're taking this too extreme. You will lose some strength after prolonged cuts. And that means you lost some muscle (strength = muscle amount, not talking about big bodybuilders).
I'm not talking about fatigue during lifting because of low energy from calorie deficit, I'm talking about literal ability to lift certain weight. You can mitigate this by doing short cuts (for like a month)
Well I was basically training 5 days a week doing a split program and 1 session would be a 15-20min skipping sesh where I’d go super intense, also occasionally I would do a 6th day of sprinting.
In terms of diet I’m just consuming oats so I don’t feel hungry for most of the day, then for dinner I’d eat meat of some kind with salad, if I got peckish I’d eat a can of tuna, and after a workout I’d have a protein shake. Also I was avoiding snacks. Hope this helps at all.
>I’m basically stuck at 23%
Same. I decided to stop cutting and get to bulking again, frick it. I'm pretty sure my metabolism allows me to cut for like 1,5 month max and then my cutting stalls. No matter how low the calorie intake - I just start to get weaker with no fat loss. There's a working solutiong once you stall in cutting - gradually get back to maintenance and then start again
This site has rotten your brain. This physique is literally arnold to your normie colleagues. Unless you want to compete as a bodybuilder, this is far from dyel.
You don’t lose muscle, you lose glycogen and fullness. It will make you weaker and smaller looking during the cut. But once you go back to maintenance, or a slight bulk, your lifts will come back and so will muscle size and strength. It’s what people call muscle memory. Also, do 3 week bulks at 200-300kcal, followed by a one week deload where you cut at a 500 kcal deficit. Stop doing months long cycles if your not roiding.
This cantonese comic book forum, among others, vastly overstates how quickly and severely your body will go catabolic on a cut. There is no evolutionary benefit to your body consuming itself rather than fat the moment you're in a caloric deficit. Unless you're doing some obscene suicide cut and trying to get down to compeition level body fat I promise you aren't going to waste away.
Not sure if this would have any effect whatsoever but I will probably try eating more on workout days (still at deficit), while increasing caloric deficit on recovery days? Sort of like in recomp.
I also heard, likely not true, that cheat days help to 'trick' your body into acting as if it is not experiencing a major shock as a result of the sudden decrease in food or something like that. So the body will be more likely to avoid resorting to breaking down muscle for calories.
Tldr; I have no idea and just came up with some bullshit off the top of my head
it's imperative that you hit your protein target while cutting, try to keep your protein intake up as much as you can. You can cut down on carbs and fat to shed fat but don't stop eating fat altogether for your hormone's sake, don't cut out absolutely every carb as well like a ketolard, just eat less.
Keep eating protein and keep lifting. That's all you can really do.
only delusional fat fricks think they lose gains during a cut. you had no gains bro you were just fat
explain
>Muh bicep size went down 🙁
You had fat in your biceps, moron.
>But muh strength went down too 🙁
Yeah, being at a calorie deficit, especially low carbs, will make you weaker because you have no food energy. Your body doesn't take away your muscle if your working them out because you're telling it that you still need them. And it'll only take away muscle while working them out if you don't eat enough protein for cellular repair
You're right mostly but you're taking this too extreme. You will lose some strength after prolonged cuts. And that means you lost some muscle (strength = muscle amount, not talking about big bodybuilders).
I'm not talking about fatigue during lifting because of low energy from calorie deficit, I'm talking about literal ability to lift certain weight. You can mitigate this by doing short cuts (for like a month)
I’m actually wondering how I can cut as well without harming recovery. I’m basically stuck at 23%.
I eat a big bowl of oats, 1 med size can of tuna and a protein shake (3 scoops, shake only after sesh) for my protein.
I’m also experimenting with a 5 day full body routine and don’t want to frick up anything.
How do you guys handle recovery while making sure you’re at a defecit?
bro how did u reach 23
Well I was basically training 5 days a week doing a split program and 1 session would be a 15-20min skipping sesh where I’d go super intense, also occasionally I would do a 6th day of sprinting.
In terms of diet I’m just consuming oats so I don’t feel hungry for most of the day, then for dinner I’d eat meat of some kind with salad, if I got peckish I’d eat a can of tuna, and after a workout I’d have a protein shake. Also I was avoiding snacks. Hope this helps at all.
>I’m basically stuck at 23%
Same. I decided to stop cutting and get to bulking again, frick it. I'm pretty sure my metabolism allows me to cut for like 1,5 month max and then my cutting stalls. No matter how low the calorie intake - I just start to get weaker with no fat loss. There's a working solutiong once you stall in cutting - gradually get back to maintenance and then start again
You do not need to cut, you are pretty shredded brah. Just focus more on chest and abs and you will look insane.
>implying this isn’t a dyel physique
This site has rotten your brain. This physique is literally arnold to your normie colleagues. Unless you want to compete as a bodybuilder, this is far from dyel.
nah man if you went to the beach with a physique like that no one would even think you are fit, op is small af
What beach do you go to homosexual? 95% people are fat, skinnyfat or auschwitz. OP literally has a top 2% physique.
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nowadays beaches are littered with people with roid-like physiques
>top 2%
It's a top 30% at best, don't be delusional
Nah, that physique is "you are so fit anon! Do you play soccer on the weekends or something?"
I would know because I have that body.
post body homosexual
post body.
You don’t lose muscle, you lose glycogen and fullness. It will make you weaker and smaller looking during the cut. But once you go back to maintenance, or a slight bulk, your lifts will come back and so will muscle size and strength. It’s what people call muscle memory. Also, do 3 week bulks at 200-300kcal, followed by a one week deload where you cut at a 500 kcal deficit. Stop doing months long cycles if your not roiding.
then why is everyone else bulking for 2-4 months
Because they are either roid trannies, or morons that listen to roid trannies.
This cantonese comic book forum, among others, vastly overstates how quickly and severely your body will go catabolic on a cut. There is no evolutionary benefit to your body consuming itself rather than fat the moment you're in a caloric deficit. Unless you're doing some obscene suicide cut and trying to get down to compeition level body fat I promise you aren't going to waste away.
what
Not sure if this would have any effect whatsoever but I will probably try eating more on workout days (still at deficit), while increasing caloric deficit on recovery days? Sort of like in recomp.
I also heard, likely not true, that cheat days help to 'trick' your body into acting as if it is not experiencing a major shock as a result of the sudden decrease in food or something like that. So the body will be more likely to avoid resorting to breaking down muscle for calories.
Tldr; I have no idea and just came up with some bullshit off the top of my head
it's imperative that you hit your protein target while cutting, try to keep your protein intake up as much as you can. You can cut down on carbs and fat to shed fat but don't stop eating fat altogether for your hormone's sake, don't cut out absolutely every carb as well like a ketolard, just eat less.
Keep training hard
1-1.5g protein/lb bw.
Prioritize recovery
Be patient