How do you enter the top 20% of men?

>5'9", average face
>IST physique, visible abs
>systems engineer making 90K per year
>can cook
>can draw
>can repair basic stuff around the apartment
What percentile am I in or is there a genetic hard-cap where you cannot move up if you are ugly or a certain height?

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Stop overthinking and go the fuck outside moron

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Only the top 20% of men get girlfriends, it's only worth going outside if I am in this group.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Completely wrong. I know absolute losers with girlfriends.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Those are the top 20% of losers.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          They know how to treat women with the right amount of aloofness and enjoy themselves.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        You need to get off the internet asap

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Holy fucking shit dude

        Get off the internet, this place has poisoned you

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I knew an ugly as fuck dude that got with one of the cute girls in my circle of friends I couldn't believe how she chose that ugly bastard his personality was also not that great I also know a fat south american bastard that only played some dumb 2D game for 3rd worlders that met a blonde white girl with rich parents that became his gf and he even got her to suck his cock. You just don't ever leave your house bro that's why you don't get any coochie. Fuck even me,an average mofo, I got my coworker that everyone was lusting for into bed like cmon man. Another day I come to my brothers place and there is a girl friend of his and her friend. The bitch said I'm fine and that she wants some dick. Leave your room loser. Mind you I haven't had sex for 5 years and counting and I'm not interested in bitches anymore but bro you can't bullshit yourself like this

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Average men could have sex 5 years ago but now things happen a little bit differently

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          can confirm, my gym crush picked some shitskin mf over me, coz i was too autistic to approach her. i knew for a fact she liked me, but i was too beta bitch tits cuck basedboy

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            speaking and thinking in terms like shitskin and basedboy

            son it's not too late to deprogram yourself from this shit

            memes do not replace the warm touch of a woman

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        moron I work at an airport, and EVERY DAY I see super pretty girls with a 6/10 average height dyel boyfriend/husband. This is a budget airline too, so they’re not rich betas or whatever.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          White women hit higher standards

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        please be a larp

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Must be bait, but you’ve made me reply 7/10, wtf lmao

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        hey mik, how are you liking the new apartment?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Wtf I had gf and I’m 5’5 autist. No way I’m top 20 % lmao

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        listen gay, ive had my mind poisoned by pol and this shithole. But you need to gtfo of the internet for a long while.
        The only thing I know for real is that there is a 100% chance of it not happening unless we try.
        So stop being a pussy, take your balls outta your purse and lift

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Where the fuck are you even getting these numbers at?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Then go out and have a nice day then.
        But I know you won't. Your kind is never serious enough to end it all. All you care about is to post your woes on the internet, to feed your victim complex and sustain the self imposed façade of misery.
        You could use your time to work out, prepare healthy meals for the week, practice a skill, grow your hobby, hell even learn something through browsing on IST, and yet you chose to complain.
        I'm sick and tired of trying to engage you gays. You all are nothing but fonts of child like malice.
        So are you going to further waste my time, or are you going to make yourself worth something?

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Improve or have a nice day gay

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Who fucking cares

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You forgot to add
    >autist on IST that would make a post like this
    That gives you a mental anchor which holds you at the bottom 5%

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Idk, ask /r/incel

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >a genetic hard-cap where you cannot move up if you are ugly or a certain height?
    LOOOOOOOOL yo you are hilarious as hell

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    90k is an average salary

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Eugenics is a great idea. Not for morons. Not for autists. But for gays that look like right in OP's pic and make these shit threads.

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    dubs and OP gets raped by a pack of morons

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      So close, yet so far. Dubs and you and OP gets raped by a pack of morons.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Thanks

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        check'd. Mel Gibson would be proud.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous
        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          based hitler 1488 GET

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        good times for that guy and OP

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      check em

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Stop obsessing over what you can never be and instead choose to be in the top 20% of people like you.

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    you zoomers are fucking braindead, go to the store NOW go up to a female worker and say, Hi I am anon I need some rice, where do you have it?

    she says rice

    you say THANKS

    that's it, do that. fucking mongoloid shitbrains who can't talk to people.

    >20% UUUUUUUH

    just say hello women aren fuckcing banelings

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >looking good tonight, ladies!
      >and then just walk away
      thanks gramps

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        np bud

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    it was over before it began

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    None of that matters if you're not fun to be around.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's the other way around.
      Being fun to be around only matters if you are not attractive enough

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Wrong. Fun to be around is an essential component of being attractive.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          You can only be fun around if you are attractive though otherwise girls will see you as creepy.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        not being boring as fuck is essential regardless of attractiveness level unless you just wanna get with exclusively the most vacuous women on the planet.

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Honestly your'e fine, I have friends worse off that are getting married and happy. That being said they're fun to be around, that counts for ALOT. Never ask IST about this stuff, 99% of IST doesn't live in normal reality.

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >>5'9"
    stopped reading there
    its already over, women wont even acknowledge youre existence if youre below 6'4

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      This is true. My mom wouldn't even get within 2m of myself until I was 17.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        "You think I'm letting that fucking MANLET suckle on my tits? Get real, sweaty."

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You are already in the top 20% of men.
    Not being overweight already puts you in the top 30% or so.
    90k puts you in the top 20% financially on its own.
    I don't know the data for cooking but I'd assume that also puts you in a top 40% bracket.
    Put all these together and you should easily be top 15-20%. If you're having problems attracting women maybe it's either your face or you're not meeting enough women.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You don’t know that, if he’s an emotionally unstable, needy sperg (high odds given that this is IST), no woman will want to deal with that

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Life’s not an RPG where certain stats, skill points and measurables put you in the “top 20%”

    Even you’re 6’4 and look like Chad, that’s not going to matter if you act like a gay. Same goes for finances. Except to fake people who are using you

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Post more wojak and chad that will help

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Forget all that shit. You have the same three choices with women that you jave with muscle, money and happiness:
    > Work like it's worth it to you and get the best you can
    > Do just enough to get by and get just enough you don't end up an hero
    > Give up and waste away until you have a nice day
    The urge to break it down into numbers is strong, but there's a difference between optimizing your chances and rationalizing your surrender. Get out and lift. Work hard and make money. Talk to girls. Bounce back from every failure. Be careful, but not so careful that you rationalize doing nothing; be bold, but not so bold that you act thoughtlessly. Above all, keep moving forward.

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    In my humble opinion, that shit sounds boring as fuck and simply makes you just like everyone else. I think people should strive to achieve the goals that truly fulfill them. Live like you're the main character, not like you are a globohomo cog.

    You want to be at the top of foodchain, you want to be in the 1% of men? Do some crazy shit that actually speaks to you instead of chasing an empty goal. Do you think someone like Alexander the Great would have been happy with his 9-5 job, considering himself to be the peak of men because he makes 90k, and is tall and pretty? Of course not.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Extremely based. Listen to this anon. But make sure your goal is a good one, and a grand one.

      And don’t do it to impress women. Do it for sheer glory and honor.

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You don't need to be in the top 20% of the men, the women only need to think you are (which would be the equivalent of bluffing in your shitty analogy). You see a "Chad" and automatically assume he's hot stuff, looks like you fell for it. Now you only need to make women feel the same

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >6'4"
    >8/10 face
    >124IQ
    >learned in physical labour
    >can repair/build almost everything
    >learn astrophysic and chemistry in my freetime just for fun
    >supervisor in a decent company
    >upper middleclass
    >haven't seen my abs in years
    >get more attention from women then 90% of this board
    the key is bodylanguage, language skills and clothes. bodylanguage should be manly/agressive. don't use slang language. your clothes should fit you and don't be afraid to buy expensive clothes. couple yours ago i buyed only noname clothes. now i buy boss, armani, calvin klein etc. and women attention growed by around 50%. women want a manly, intelligent and rich men. you don't have to be everything, you just need to look like it. i drive a 15year old car and life in a relative small apartment. but women at the bar don't know this when they see me in my levis jeans and boss shirt.
    they cheat with makeup, you can cheat with your appearence too.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >6'4"
      >8/10 face

      Yeah for sure it's the body language and clothes fucking bozo

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        it can boost your success rate by 40-60%
        try it for yourself

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        He’s doing something called “lying on an anonymous imageboard” anon.

        You really think a “124 IQ” “astrophysics student” “supervisor at a decent company” Chad type would type like a retard?

        Even if he was telling the truth, I guarantee you this walmart produce manager would only “impress” the grossest bar slags he drives home in his honda while wearing his Ralph Lauren t shirt

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          i'm not a astrophysic student. i never said that. i learn/read about it in my freetime alot. it's my hobby.
          everytime i go out there are 1-2 average women each night who approach me. i just have to be there and do nothing and still get pussy if i want.
          keep seething but people like me exist.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Have fun with your herpes and child support payments

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              i don't fuck all of them, maybe 10%.
              my point is that a good body is worth nothing if you look insecure, poor or stupid. your appearance is more then just your body. work on the whole package.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Could you post a pic of your outfit anon? Just crop your face out of the photo

                Curious to see what works for you

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                i'm laying half naked on my couch right now... give me a few minutes

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                i'm laying half naked on my couch right now... give me a few minutes

                Alright I’m back this is one of my more formal looks but if I take the jacket off it’s good for work or getting a few drinks with friends

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                this is such a larp, but people tailor your shit so you don't look like this in public.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                suck my dick seething twink

                this is what i was wearing today. like i said, dyel no abs but still get lots of attention from women.

                you look like a villain from a 50s film

                The absolute state of newfag reditors on this board

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                pissening

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Looks good man, I’m sure those northern korean girls are all over you

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                suck my dick seething twink

                this is what i was wearing today. like i said, dyel no abs but still get lots of attention from women.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >this is the guy telling you how to become Chad on IST

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                i have still better genetics and confidence then you

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Lmao, even worse than the Genova fit tbqh
                I guess you must have a really good face, or bag really ugly hogs

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Cringe

                nice gyno

                stay mad fags

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Cringe

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                nice gyno

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah. That's the shirt that will have you drowning in pussy.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                you look like a villain from a 50s film

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                just slight slight barely noticeable 1% autism

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You look like a little kid who's mom dressed him up with the intention of making a parody of an elegant man.

                You look aboslutely retarded, you genuinely look so fucking dumb I'm not even kidding.
                but yeah this guy's advice is pretty good, I mean try some actualy nice clothes, they work, just not this retarded outfit ffs.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                you're a newfag if you don't recognize the pic

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                even if this is a larp, thanks for the hearty kek dude

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >only 124 IQ

  23. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I’m pretty sure that percentile of male has a pretty close if not direct correlation with income.

  24. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    OP here. I don't really get the thread. Am I now in the top 20% or not? Because if I actually am then I can try to get a girlfriend but I have no expectations because I know how impossibly difficult this task is nowadays, especially if you are only 5'9".
    Maybe I should try to make more money? A Masters degree in cybersecurity could land me a 100K+ job.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      it is not hard to get layed at 5'9 dude wtf. why is everyone here height obsessed

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      post clothed fullbody pic

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I am going to derail the thread a bit but I need it because I have questions about System Engineering and you can help me OP.
      I'm an EEE student and I will finish my 2nd year this semester. I am going to apply to Siemens for Part Time Student as a System Engineer, so I have several questions for you:
      -What kinds of skills to they look after? I have some knowledge of Altium, rudimentary Python, and a very advanced English (I am 3rd worldfag) with some German. What should I do this summer to get that System Engineering job? I have also applied for a System Eng. course in Coursera. What do you think I should do? Also

      [...]
      Alright I’m back this is one of my more formal looks but if I take the jacket off it’s good for work or getting a few drinks with friends

      nice pic I kekked.

      Other engineer Anons are welcome to comment

  25. 2 months ago
    All fields

    physique, visible abs
    You're already in the top 20% anon, if you were 5'11 or more you would be top 5% and an actual 1% with an attractive face.

  26. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    there are people who will never be above the bottom %
    its all genetics
    sadly you can't know until you waste 4-5 years of your life to find out

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You seem to have wasted top $$ for goyslop.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        i haven't eaten fast food once since 2017

  27. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It’s unironically alpha genetics or beta results

  28. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >90K per year
    is that an internship?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      90k is an average salary

      90k is a great salary

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Not really. The average person makes that per year

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          depends heavily on the country. OP just said 90k, could be 90k ruble or 90k us dollar.

  29. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ok OP. I'll give you some advice. Become as lean as possible. All that matters for aesthetics is how lean you are.

  30. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    That body on the left looks weird though.

  31. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    anything below 6 foot you shouldn't worry about your yearly income because it will only get you into beta orbiter mode.

  32. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Incels correctly detect that women are the gatekeepers of sex. But they extrapolate and think that they are the gatekeepers of relationships too, which is false.
    Men gatekeep relationships.
    Women will consistently be in a relationship with schlubby less attractive men, but the reverse isn't true.
    Actually talk to the average "high-tier" woman and look at their past relationships. A lot of them have been with weirdos, porn addicts, drug addicts, the chronically unemployed, etc.
    Women take what they can get. The man determines the relationship.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      If no girl wants to date me how can I be the gatekeeper of relationships? I am trying to improve my life and be a good person but if women deem my castle too small then they will not line up to take an inside tour so to speak but rather take the guy with the bigger one.

  33. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Anon, you just sound boring. Drawing could be interesting, but you gotta be actually good at it. Git gud at a few skills that have nothing to do with your job like drawing, music, carpentry, etc. Shit that actually makes you not only valuable to other people but also give you something to live for other than making mr shekelberg more money

  34. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    when will you realize its all about the face? I was getting laid when I weighted 70kg at 190cm

  35. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >you don't have to be chad to get a girlfriend
    >average looking dorks get girlfriends all the time
    Ok then why I am still single when I mog most men?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      For me it’s the fact I never dated when I was young leaving me socially retarded AND women only want you if they see you with another woman at some point

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Because you drank the kool-aid and thought all women care about is how you look when that's literally only relevant when she first looks at you and when you're fucking. Everything in-between relies on you not being an autistic retard who struggles to order a meal let alone hold a conversation.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Because if you're rationalizing that you "mog most me ", you're below average.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I do though, at least looks wise
        >6'3
        >lift
        >take care of my appearance and dress well

        Now you might say "anon you probably just have an ugly face", but I know so many uglier motherfuckers than me who still have girlfriends. Fuck's sake, my fat friend has more sexual experience than me and he literally got hit on at a bar a last time we hung out (it was by a fellow fattie but still, I've never had any woman ever hit on me)

        I don't think I'm ugly, probably more average or maybe above average, but one thing for sure is that I'm definitely not ugly enough to have never had a girlfriend at fucking 23. I've never asked anyone out, but never been asked out either.

        >tfw you realize that it really is unironically about personality and confidence, but you can't improve your personality easily in the same way you can improve your physique or wardrobe
        I wish there were steroids for personality/confidence gains tbh

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >I've never asked anyone out
          Gee I wonder why you’ve never had a girlfriend, you pathetic fucking crybaby pussy gay

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Because you are lookism incel.

  36. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    ITT: men fail to realize that posturing for other men isn't the optimal path to impress women

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Ok if you’re the pussy master what do you recommend huh huh?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Be attractive but also have hobbies that women actually find attractive (nobody will be impressed you can fix/build a radio or recite the laws of thermodynamics except other men), be capable of holding a conversation, know interesting places to go in the area you live, have interesting friends and communities to expose your dates to, etc. I could go on and on. There's just more to being desirable than big brain big muscle.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >hobbies that women actually find attractive
          I am a computer engineer and my hobby makes me 107K per year, how is that not attractive?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            You might be able to get sex 1nce a week as betabux

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Because it's boring. Think about how you might maximize the throughput of a computer system. Think about the challenges you might face or the tools you might use. No women sipping martinis at a decent bar gives a fuck about any of that, and there guys out that who make more than you, like me, who can also hold a decent conversation about something other than flexing about their job or autistically overexplaining their job. I've been drumming for 11 years and play jazz band, for example. I can talk about that for hours. I've got stories about stage fuckups, hecklers, pulling off solos I barely practiced, etc. What do you have?

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              I’m a fairly attractive woman and you sound insufferable

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yea sorry, wanna hear about how i optimized my company's pricing pipeline to accept an additional 2k TPS with azure PaaS?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                /lgtb/

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              I'm basically a branch bean counter like the gay mexican in the office but I tell people I'm the head of administration and they're usually impressed

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                If that's what gets you laid. The women I want to fuck don't swipe right on people just because they have a decent job. Most people around where I live have decent jobs.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                most young people where I live have dead end jobs if they can keep one or they fucked off in another city or country
                also my company is full of women and basically the dream company for a lot of girls (in reality it's women's hell) so I guess that kicks off conversations

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >What do you have?
              I lift weights, run, cook, draw and read books. I can talk about these topics but I think girls find it boring too. I like my life and I am generally successful but I guess it's just not attractive to women so I die alone.

  37. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    guy on the right isn't playing his cards, he should be shaven and wearing a sundress

  38. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Women are far more forgiving when it comes to looks than men are. Deep down you know this is true

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Bulls hit incel a 3/10 chick could bag a 9/10 male no problem whereas a 6/10 male would be lucky to get a 3/11 woman

  39. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Something about wide shoulders that looks aesthetic as fuck

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